Talk:Welsh law

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Contents 1 Celtic law 2 GA promoted 3 Start a new article called Wales Law 4 Welsh Measures 5 Court officials 6 GA on hold

[edit] Celtic law

The article on Celtic law only deals with Ireland at the moment and covers the same ground as the Brehon law article. It should probably cover the similarities between Irish and Welsh law, together with any available information from e.g. pre-Roman Gaul.

To make a start on this, the current content of "Celtic law" needs to be merged into the Brehon law article, but I'm not sure how reliable some of it is. Rhion 09:43, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA promoted

Magnificent, I'm happy with what I read. Lincher 03:48, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Start a new article called Wales Law

This is how I would acknowledge Wales's new powers which we will have next year, in order to stop confusion between the laws of Hywel Dda, our Welsh Assembly Law Making Powers should be called "Wales Law". I also believe that Wales law should not be called "Welsh Assembly Law" as a title like that would make the new law making powers sound like they only apply to the Assembly. Wales has it's own court circuit now, and we should recognise that under a new Article, name it "Wales Law". (Just an idea).

Amlder20 11:25, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, the actual laws will be called Measures of the National Assembly for Wales (Assembly Measures), or Acts of the National Assembly for Wales (Acts of the Assembly). I don't think "Welsh law" vs "Wales law" is terribly obvious, and some more disambiguation would be needed rather than just using a noun or an adjective. (after all, we have English law not England law). Morwen - Talk 11:29, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Well that does not seem so bad, but I would not suggest setting up the article as of yet until we have more knowledge on how these laws will work in Wales. My suggestion was just an idea remember. Amlder20 19:44, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Sure. It remains to be seen how much this will change the legal analysis: I daresay that it will be more like "England and Wales law that applies only in Wales" rather than being a separate legal system like Scotland does. Morwen - Talk 22:12, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Just hope with these new powers we can make a difference, but we talkabout new laws, it will also depend on what Government sits at the National Assembly too. It will depend on them how the law making powers we will have be used. In a small way I would like to agree but there will be some differences in the way these laws will appear, for example they are drafted by the Welsh Assembly and then passed onto the UK Parliament, but the Acts (if we win a referendum in the future) will clearly show that Wales will have it's own laws - but still no court legal system as such or our own criminal laws. 82.11.221.164 17:41, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I have a better idea, why not add a title on this page and call it Modern Welsh law instead of creating another article on the subject. Afterall it may not be the same law as Hywel Dda's but it will apply to the same country. Amlder20 13:52, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Contemporary Welsh Law would work well for a tittle too. Drachenfyre 23:38, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Looking at that suggestion I think it looks like a good title. Contemporary Welsh Law, I'd support this article after May 2007, even though I have been told that these new laws will have to be judicially noticed in full and all lawyers in Wales would be required to learn it. Amlder20 19:18, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually guys I am going to start feeling sorry for all the lawyers based in Wales, with all that law to learn and to remember which law they come under. Anyway guys keep my posted using my Talk page on my wikipedia user page. Amlder20 18:00, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Welsh Measures

I think if someone started the Contemporary Welsh Law article now it would be a good basis for when these laws are in operation. I say the article on Contemporary Welsh law should describe the origins of this law and the article Measures of the National Assembly for Wales should contain each peice of approved legislation passed each year. Amlder20 11:25, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Court officials

Is it possible to get the list of court officials and what their titles were in Welsh?

The first part of the laws deal with the rights and duties of the king and the officers of the king's court. The order of precedence is set down, first the king, then the queen and then the edling, the designated heir of the king. Then come the officers of the court. The Iorwerth Redaction identifies twenty-four, of whom sixteen are the king's officers and eight the queen's officers. First in rank was the captain of the household troops, then the priest of the household, then the steward followed by the chief falconer, the court justice, the chief groom and the chamberlain. A list of additional officers follows, including such officers as the groom of the rein, the porter, the bakeress and the laundress. Each officer's entitlements and obligations are listed.

Drachenfyre 05:55, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA on hold

This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force in an effort to ensure all listed Good articles continue to meet the Good article criteria. In reviewing the article, I have found there are some issues that may need to be addressed.

The issue:

The article is referenced unevenly. I marked unreferenced sentences and paragraphs with {{fact}} tags.

I will check back in no less than seven days. If progress is being made and issues are addressed, the article will remain listed as a Good article. Otherwise, it may be delisted (such a decision may be challenged through WP:GAR). If improved after it has been delisted, it may be nominated at WP:GAN. Feel free to drop a message on my talk page if you have any questions, and many thanks for all the hard work that has gone into this article thus far. Regards, Ruslik 08:37, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

There has been no answer for seven days. Now I am going to delist this article. I actually think that the article is interesting and comprehensive one and can have been saved. Ruslik 10:27, 2 October 2007 (UTC)