Talk:Wellington underground poets

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The poetry that these men and women wrote and performed was nothing short of incredible, and it is scandalous that these poets are not even more widely recognised.

Still, that is what happens when you rebel against mediocrity. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 192.190.108.19 (talk) 00:41, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

I remember some of these guys, I first heard them by accident in a bar. I remember on one occasion someone setting fire to his hair, Ward I think it was, doing some bizarre stunt with a cigarette lighter whilst declaiming. I don't remember much about the poem but I do remember clearly the setting fire to his hair. I went back a few times but it never happened again. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 218.101.120.206 (talk) 21:36, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wellington poets

Darryl Ward and Alex Staines would have to be two of the best Wellington poets of the past 20 years, but they were too much of a threat to the establishment to get the recognition they deserved.

It is great to see that their achievemnets are finally being taken seriously. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 192.190.108.19 (talk) 04:29, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Needs sources

I'm not sure this even exists given that "Wellington underground poets" yields zero Ghits outside of Wikipedia. [1]. --Fang Aili talk 17:57, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

The term "Wellington underground poets" seemed to only come into use the last few years, yet performances that date back over 20 years ago are still talked about today.

Like many artistic movements, it did not have a name back in their heyday. However, if you said "Wellington underground poets" to anybody who was at (say) Victoria University of Wellington about 20 years ago, chances are they would know what you were talking about.

Googling same of the names, e.g. "Alex Staines"+poetry will show that these guys actually existed and really did do poetry, plus I found a few references to "Wellington underground poets" using other search engines.

Plus, the huge volume of published work in which Wellington underground poets appeared can not be discounted, such as "Kings Cross Pub Poets" Vols I and II, "Kiwi Stuff", the monthly "Bards Bodega" magazine and numerous individual and joint collections.

It existed alright. 121.73.14.30 09:50, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

There are a number of works that have been published and broadcast by the poets mentioned. David Douglas also presented the "Kiwi Poets Pub" for many years. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.114.179.112 (talk) 03:12, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

The poets may well actually exist, but to justify an article about the "Wellington underground poets" as a movement, we need reliable sources which state that they constitute(d) a movement. EALacey 19:49, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

The anthologies and other cited are some evidence that there was a cohesive movement. Certainly, this contributor recalls seeing some of the poets listed performing together on numerous occasions at different venues. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.190.108.19 (talk) 01:24, 19 September 2007 (UTC)