Talk:Weight training exercises

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[edit] Model

<insults removed> Not really nice images. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.155.114.84 (talk • contribs)

The photos were actually taken at a bodybuilder gym, and could easily have featured one of the bodybuilders who train there. I deliberately chose instead to feature a non-bodybuilder, in order to make the subject less intimidating—particularly to women. I admire her courage, and I think she looks great. GeorgeStepanek\talk 13:48, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

I also think she looks great , and I hope now even better , however , I don't think wikipedia should not be intimidating (let non intimidating ""training"" articles stay on womens magazines and pilates gyms) , it should be neutral also it's more informative regarding good posture when a leaner individual , obviously not a bodybuilder (bodybuilders are quite bigger , you can't just put that tag on every fit looking person who engages in bodybuilding) like the man in the animation showed in the push up article you can clearly see what muscles contract to keep the posture right)

Also it seems that you encourage "training" it's a bad approach that leads to frustration , it's better in the long run for newbies to get "culture shocked" but engage in serious training then keep the delicate barriors on their egos , saying there not bodybuilders , thus they don't need effective training , and stereotype any fit looking person as a bodybuilder.

this is an irresponsible approach in my opinion (Not regarding the pictures , there okey although can be better , just what you wrote)

<insults removed> UBERGOD —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.189.240.107 (talk • contribs)
You've got better free images, get a user account and upload them. Until you can do so, you're vandalizing the page. Reverted and a warning placed on the anon's page. WLU 11:18, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

are there any other exercises that aren't written here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.154.157.65 (talk) 17:30, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Of course, weighted leg raise, the full body lifts that use multiple compound movements (like the clean and press), movements you could do with a kettlebell, cable cross over etc. The basic stuff you'll see supported in most gyms are well represented here (though I think the chin-up motion is worthy of its own image, blargh). I personally think the front shoulder press is the absolute best triceps exercise you can do and is under-represented here. http://www.exrx.net/Lists/Directory.html has a good breadth of the many variations. Re: the model, I like her and she should have her own sitcom. -- 05:48, 21 September 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.175.230.36 (talk)

I absolutely love the fact that there are images. When talking about exercises, it's imperative and extremely helpful to have images to work off of when trying to exercise correctly 24.251.84.221 10:25, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

To the previous two posters: For numerous exercises, including detailed instructions, see http://www.exrx.net

Rocky143 15:12, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

While people are (of course) very free to critique the photographs, I've removed the unnecessary personal insults about the model herself. — Matt Crypto 18:08, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Download speed

I have no problem with the model pictures.

There are just too many of them the page takes over 5 minutes to download on dialup this is not acceptable.

Please edit the pictures ok or I will ask an admin too. The page is just too large to download and useless to anybody using dialup. You did a great job just to many images ok.

Please edit as many as you can the size and spped of download can be checked here right now it is so big it can't be checked.

After deleting some please check the download time here ok Website download speed--Supplements 13:40, 7 August 2006 (UTC)


I have reduced the size of the images, which has reduced the page weight from over 1 MB to under 500 kB. This should take just over a minute to download on a full-speed 56kb dialup connection, which I think is quite acceptable. However it may take longer for you if your line quality is poor. GeorgeStepanek\talk 07:07, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Wonderful job too Thanks for your prompt attention to this--Supplements 13:40, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Innaccuracies

There are many inaccuracies in this article. I preacher curl is a brachialis exercise and a hammer curl is a brachioradialis exercise. There are many other inaccuracies I've noticed, for example the deltoid section is terrible. Exrx.net has good information with sources cited that can be used to salvage this inaccurate article. Maybe when I have more time I will make some changes, but hopefully someone else will volunteer. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jackery (talk • contribs) 19:50, 09 November 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Cephalocaudal Routine

It's kind of generic, but all of the muscles are covered in 3 groups of 11 (33 exercises) using a bench and a corner gym, (3 pulleys, leg tool, leg press, butterfly and declined chest press levers). Finish with whatever abs and rows, and hit the erector spinae with head gear before doing a standing triceps pressdown, pull down or pullover. Toss in the barbell dead lift and dumbbells if you're really attached to them. Get the pictures from Strength Training Anatomy and the Stretches from Arnold Body Building (not to mention some pretty nice finishing poses- if you like bulk). Keep it under 65 lbs including the bar and run with it for a good 8 weeks.

1. Neck Retractions (Erector Spinae) 2. Triceps Push Downs 3. Reverse Grip EZ Curls 4. Narrow Grip Upright Rows (Anterior) 5. Wide Grip Upright Rows (Anteriors) 6. Shrugs 7. Neutral Grip Vertical (Shoulder) Press 8. Alternating Leg Extensions 9. Alternating Leg Curls 10. Oblique Press (A Seated Crunch; but side saddle) 11. Row

1. Donkey Calf Press 2. Butterfly Press 3. Chest Press 4. Leg Press 5. Reverse Atlas Curls 6. Hammer Grip 7. Atlas Curls 8. Rear Shoulder Press 9. Overhead Triceps Press 10. Lat Pull Downs 11. Leg Extensions

1. Standing Front Knee Raise 2. Lateral Leg Raise 3. [whatever subscapularus] 4. Rope Front Raise 5. Reverse Grip Low Pulley Curls 6. Crossovers (Behind) 7. Lateral Raise (Cable Behind Back) 8. Lateral Raise (Cable in Front) 9. Cuff Rear-Delt Laterals 10. High pulley or Straight Pullbacks 11. Triceps Kickback

2 minutes each followed by some good Cardio (30 minutes to an hour split between the eliptical machine, the inclined tread mill and the mountain bike). But if you're less than 120 lbs, I'd recommend starting with a couple of power bars and some Twinkies, hit the climbing wall and finish up with some serious squats, whey, and a burger. --Aaron 37422-- —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.60.0.20 (talk) 03:03, 10 May 2007 (UTC).

It is unclear how you wish this information to relate to the page. However, it is unsourced, and currently inappropriate for inclusion on the main page. I have reverted the addition. WLU 13:22, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Military Press and Deadlift

I just edited the shoulder press section to reflect the difference between the seated press and the military press, but do not have a photo to add for the military press. If anybody does have one that is in the public domain, could they add it?

I also edited the lower back section to include the deadlift (along with a basic explanation of what a deadlift is), and included some information to emphasize the application and importance of the deadlift to everyday life functionality. I don't think this counts as original research or POV since it is widely available information, and hope that it will not be removed. The deadlift's importance to musculoskelatal health is often ignored and I felt it important to point out this connection. Maybe it will prevent a back injury for someone?

The deadlift section needs a photo also.

24.214.40.152 (talk) 20:35, 9 March 2008 (UTC)