Talk:WDRE (FM)

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[edit] Article name

HOTTEST FCUKN RADIO STATION AROUND BABEEY! This article should be named WDRE rathern then the current WDRE (FM) per WP:NC#Broadcast. 'Where a station has changed call signs, please put the station's entire history in its current call sign, as the old call signs may subsequently be reassigned to new stations.' It is not a leap to infer that this should also apply to dead stations such as the used to have the WDRE callsign. —A 20:47, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

The former WDRE is a significant dead station that ended in 1997. While that WDRE is marginally related to the current one, they are clearly different stations that need to be kept on separate pages. The current naming scheme leaves something to be desired as the titles should be doing a better job of distinguishing between the stations and the other stations that have held the WDRE call letters. It's not clear from the article, but it appears that for a period from 1992 to 1995 both 92.7 (Garden City, NY) and 103.9 (Jenkintown, PA) had the same WDRE calls (not sure how the FCC allowed this, perhaps one had the -FM suffix and the other did not). A few years ago, when this station, 105.3, was known as WXXP, its sister station 98.5 was known as WDRE.
I'm nore sure what you are proposing by citing WP:NC, but it seems clear to me that the two WDRE articles need to stay separate, but they way they are named needs to be improved. btm talk 03:34, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
I misread WDRE, but the WLIR article explains the situation a bit better. WDRE (in New York) and WIBF in Pennsylvania were both referred to as WDRE, as part of The Underground Network simulcast, but they had those respective call letters. Later, when WDRE in Garden City, NY, returned to the WLIR calls, WIBF took the WDRE calls as an independent station. btm talk 03:41, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] City of license

WDRE has a city of license assigned to it that is rather strange. It's Calverton-Roanoke. Since there is no Roanoke on Long Island, or even New York State, I wanted to find out what Roanoke was about. It appears that one used to exist. I'm not sure where Roanoke, NY, was, but the following (from radio-info.com via Google's cache [1] explains more.

> You are allowed to identify any city after the COL, but the
> call letters and the COL may not be separated by anything
> other than the frequency or the channel number. Another
> example of a dual ID is Party 105, WDRE Calverton-Roanoke,
> NY. Roanoke, NY is all the way in western NY (according to
> radio-locator), and Party 105 is located in Long Island.
I just found an old email I got from John at TMO....This is the explination on the Calverton-Roanoke.
There is no Roanoke now, but when this station was first proposed, and the application for the change of the FM table of Allotments was put in, (1988-89), the original petitioner claimed the community boundaries to include a community of Roanoke. You have to remember, the area was growing in large spurts back then, what was rural farm land was turning into high price homes and tons of strip malls. The FCC had competing applications for the area all for new FM's. During this time, 101.7, 96.1, 102.5, 98.5, 96.7, and a few others were all added to the FM table of allotments.
In an effort to give as many community's their first aural service, the commission consolidated the 105.3 allocation to include a community, not a city or village, that community was Roanoke.
The license for 105.3 is to serve the community of Calverton-Roanoke, and that Matt is our legal ID. No way around it.
This is not the same thing as stations like Z100 or KTU that say Newark, New York City, or Lake Success, New York City. They add that on as an option. Roanoke is not an option for us.
Funny thing, when I moved the station to Manorville, I had to make sure I put a 70dbu signal of the community of license, it was tough with a community that had no boundaries.

I believe the John here is John C. from WLIR/TMO. btm talk 03:53, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot 16:32, 3 December 2007 (UTC)