Talk:Wayne Dyer
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[edit] Removal of Audio Book Publications & Rant
Wayne W. Dyer - 101 Ways to Transform Your Life
Wayne W. Dyer - Applying the 10 Secrets for Success and Inner Peace
Wayne W. Dyer - Change Your Thoughts Meditation
Wayne W. Dyer - Choosing your own Greatness
Wayne W. Dyer - Depak Chopra - Creating Your World the Way You Really Want It to Be
Wayne W. Dyer - Depak Chopra - How to get what you Really Really Really Really WANT
Wayne W. Dyer - Depak Chopra - Living Beyond Miracles
Wayne W. Dyer - Depak Chopra - Living Without Limits
Wayne W. Dyer - Four Pathways To Success
Wayne W. Dyer - How to be a No Limit Person
Wayne W. Dyer - How To Get What You Really, Really, Really, Really Want
Wayne W. Dyer - Improve Your Life Using the Wisdom of the Ages
Wayne W. Dyer - Meditations for Manifesting
Wayne W. Dyer - Power of Intuition
Wayne W. Dyer - Secrets of the Universe
Wayne W. Dyer - The Keys to Higher Awareness
Wayne W. Dyer - The Secrets of an Inspirational (In-Spirit) Life
Wayne W. Dyer - The Secrets of Manifesting your Destiny
Wayne W. Dyer - The Secrets of The Power of Intention Learning to Co-Create Your World Your Way
Wayne W. Dyer - The Secrets Of Your Own Healing Power
Wayne W. Dyer - The Universe Within You
Wayne W. Dyer - Transformation
Wayne W. Dyer - Wisdom of the Masters
Wayne W. Dyer - Your Journey to Enlightenment
Wayne W. Dyer - Your Life Begins Now!
Who's the idiot who removed all his audio publications listed above? I had years published and ISBN numbers and all kinds of crap. I do all this work and someone undoes it. And what's this other crap listed from these people who haven't even read his works? I've read 49 of his books, and I don't think you should be able to bashing his work unless you've actually read it. some of you "skeptics" (which I don't believe in, BTW) are the reason why the wikipedia a co-founder called wikipedia "broken beyond repair" WANNA REFERENCE?
And yes, I have read just about everything of his and he has NEVER mentioned in any way shape of form the "new thought movement" Strike THREE, it's out.
There is no criticism from his work except from know-nothing, well uninformed, non-reading whiners that have never helped anyone do anything great. These kinds of people who sit in wikipedia and destroy others work, there has to be a term for these people. I will go toe-to-toe with anyone claiming to be a "Wayne Dyer" expert who is trying to squeeze their "pseudoscience and self-help idiocy" into his profile. How many millions do I have to make more than you because I've followed his teachings he brings from the worlds greatest thinkers before you will stop whining and start reading? Wayne Dyer teachers the teachings from ALL religious groups from all time. This is someone who unites, not some intolerant "skeptic" tearing down society with their useless nonconstructive whining. We need more people like this.
/rant. --Eckre (talk) 05:25, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Influences
I moved this here because it is all unsourced Pgc512 19:16, 10 April 2007 (UTC):
Wayne Dyer is influenced by and publicly gives credit to the Sufi poet Rumi, Taoism, and Jesus Christ[citation needed]. Some[citation needed] also see in his work influences from the work of Napoleon Hill ("thoughts are things"). Alan Watts [[1]] is not mention by Dyer but certainly is one of his influences.
[edit] We have to get sources
There are no sources and I can't find anyone.........this is going to go into the wikipedia trash bin soon if there are not sources....any suggestions? Tmtoulouse 16:23, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Also it is clearly an ad for Wayne Dyer, its ganked from his bio on his site and is mostly praise and a book list. This guy is a proponent for pseudoscience and self-help idiocy, the positive claims need sources and it needs a criticism section. But to do this we need sources, which there are none that I can find. Anyone know where I should look?Tmtoulouse 16:29, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
He mentions just about all of those authors in each book. I've read 42 to date. you want page numbers of ever book?, audio time stamps - what? he does mention Nap Hill in at least ten books.
[edit] "pseudoscience and self-help idiocy"
Is there any way we can work this into the article? Just kidding .... Pgc512 13:47, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
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- I agree with their point though, there is no criticsm of work. The insane 'Banana incident' was on there for ages! Gareth E Kegg 14:48, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Best Selling Book
TMT, what is the need for fact checking - See List of Best-Selling Books. It is already sourced there. Pgc512 00:19, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not a source, and can not be used to source a claim, you need a WP:ATT source. Tmtoulouse 00:21, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] PBS
TMT, the article you reference says that it is safe to assume Dyer was popular and effective and that there were some letters from people who were disturbed in the way I described --- there is no indication of something widespread. Pgc512 00:19, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
- I will look through it again. Tmtoulouse 00:21, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] New Thought Movement
It is misleading to single out "New Thought" as THE label for Dyer's message. I can't recall him mentioning "New Thought" in any of the books, audio tapes, videos that I have seen. More often he mentions Christ, Buddha, Sai Baba, St. Francis, etc. So we could use many labels to describe his perspective. Better not to single one out. What do others think? Pgc512 12:36, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Plus, it strikes me that to put the "New Thought" label on Dyer is original research. Where is the source? What is one good reference? Pgc512 19:02, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Iyanla Vanzant
First you you removed the whole list, I think a list of similar writers is handy for those looking for other spiritual text. Do you know what New Thought is, he has mentioned other spritual writers who belong to the movement and not. Iyanla Vanzant is one. There is a philosophcial connection between these writers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JGG59 (talk • contribs) 21:30, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
I just don't agree with the attempts to lace this article with "New Thought" references throughout, giving the impression that somehow this is what Dyer is all about.
I have been involved with Unity and other New Thought resources for a long time, and I have been editing and watching this page for a long time and if we start listing writers with a "philosophcial connection", we ought to include the follwing: Buddha, Jesus, Confucius, Michelangelo, Emily Dickinson, Herman Melville, William Blake, Emerson, Thoreau, Shelley, Shakespeare, Yeats, Kipling, Shaw, Chief Seattle, Confucius, Langston Hughes and Dorothy Parker (At least he has spoken of these ...)
There are plenty of New Thought References left.
The Dyer article should not be used as a vehicle to promote any "Movement". Pgc512 12:29, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] See Also
I see you or someone has added a bunch of these people to the "See Also" section. Personally I think it is silly looking. The relevant ones could be linked from the article itself. Some already are. Any other thoughts? Pgc512 21:46, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Claims as a prophet
He happened to be on the public station yesterday and I heard him make a joke "I'm a prophet, I get paid by the thought"
It was probably nothing, but that's a rather charged word and that's all I've seen of him saying it. I'm just wondering if there's any place where he's explained this term of application or claim of 'prophethood.' Peter Deer (talk) 01:27, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
