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[edit] Automatic Sluice symbol
If I could image what the symbol should look like I would have made one- has anyone any ideas- I need two on the Medway Navigation!? <unsigned & undated comment added by User:ClemRutter 14:54 14 February 2008>.
- Would one of the weir symbols not do, with the text automatic sluice used to differentiate it? Bob1960evens (talk) 23:53, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Water Extraction point
Medway Navigation has a point that is used for extraction into the Bewl Water Storage Reservoir. Any suggestion on how to represent it? <unsigned & undated comment added by User:ClemRutter 14:54 14 February 2008.>
- Have you seen the uFEEDER and uRESR symbols? They are normally used for reservoirs that feed a canal, but could equally be used when the navigation feeds the reservoir. Bob1960evens (talk) 23:51, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
- I have now, the point of Medway Navigation, is that we have a uSTR with some side equiptment that then pumps water in a pipe uphill to a Reservoir on a minor tributary. uFEEDER could feed a mill pond but looks like a visible stream. uRESR doesn't have a uSTR , is coloured as a ue- but does hold promise as a base symbol. Not convinced. ClemRutter (talk) 11:24, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
- They were designed to be used together, and were coloured light blue because they are not navigable. Bob1960evens (talk) 23:19, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
- I have now, the point of Medway Navigation, is that we have a uSTR with some side equiptment that then pumps water in a pipe uphill to a Reservoir on a minor tributary. uFEEDER could feed a mill pond but looks like a visible stream. uRESR doesn't have a uSTR , is coloured as a ue- but does hold promise as a base symbol. Not convinced. ClemRutter (talk) 11:24, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Lock and Weir, Weir and Lock
One of the features of a navigation is the lock with overflow weir to right or left. If one chooses to represent it it takes 3 verticals tiles. So I haven't. Do we need an extra symbol, being that this is 'one' structure- or is this too fiddly. Thoughts? <unsigned & undated comment added by User:ClemRutter 14:54 14 February 2008>.
- I have done several navigations and all of the locks on the Thames, and have generally used the three lines approach, because there are cuts where major bridges cross before the cut rejoins the main channel, locks where there are more than two channels, locks where rivers join the main channel before the cut does, and lots of other combinations, so have not built a lock and weir symbol although I have pondered it at times. Bob1960evens (talk) 23:49, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
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- Interesting one. I have seen those complex structures too. I walk the path rather than than float. It is the simple ones that puzzle me, where lock and weir are integral structures- on the Medway we have Oak Weir Lock and Sluice Weir Lock, where even the names are combined. It seems to be so inefficient to use three rows for one feature. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ClemRutter (talk • contribs) 11:41, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Modifications to A-road bridge
I notice that the uAKRZu symbol has been modified from the red British road symbol to the red and yellow German autobahn symbol but User:Wongm. I do not mind either, but User:Wongm has not altered any of the other symbols that use the British red road, and there are now maps which have the same type of road represented in two quite different ways, depending on whether it goes over or under a canal, or over an unnavigable waterway. Should we be consistent? Bob1960evens (talk) 20:56, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
- I suspect it's time to create a UK version, called uAROADu (to match existing uAROADo)and then to change all UK maps. I think we should keep to familiar UK colours. Oosoom Talk 13:50, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- I have created a uAROADu. When I have changed the maps, I'll sort out the green and light blue symbols too. Bob1960evens (talk) 22:07, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- All maps changed, I think. Green and light blue ones next! Bob1960evens (talk) 22:04, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
- Green and light blue ones done. Bob1960evens (talk) 08:09, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
- All maps changed, I think. Green and light blue ones next! Bob1960evens (talk) 22:04, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
- I have created a uAROADu. When I have changed the maps, I'll sort out the green and light blue symbols too. Bob1960evens (talk) 22:07, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Moving icons to Commons
I'd like to introduce in the Italian Wikipedia these diagrams but I've found that some symbols aren't in Commons. Why not to transfer there them? I never did this operation and I'm not exactly sure how to do. Thanks. --Ivanfurlanis (talk) 10:57, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
- Is it one or two symbols, or lots? If it is a small number, you can right click on the symbol, choose "Save target as" from the menu, and save it on your PC. You can then go to Commons, choose "upload new image", and select the symbol you saved. You should credit the symbol to the original author if you have not made significant changes to it. Bob1960evens (talk) 22:13, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
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- As Bob says you can do this yourself by saving and re-uploading to Commons. If you do this then you should request that the original be deleted from en.Wikipedia by use of a correctly dated NowCommons template. You do this by adding: {{subst:ncd}} at the top or bottom of the text. You should copy across the full description and major edit history from the original, and (unless the icon copyright is Public Domain) you *must* preserve the original copyright licensing description and credit the previous creator and amenders. There is a tool to help with doing the move. See Wikipedia:Moving images to the Commons.
- As a courtesy to the creator of each image, you might consider asking if they want to do the move as their user name would then be credited as the creator on Commons. However, this is not required. Good luck. Oosoom Talk 10:09, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
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- But the jobs not finished till the paper works done! Where is the index- or back link to this page? I would do this if this page were complete. By accident, I have found a lovely icon of a Watermill that is not indexed here. And as a courtesy shouldn't the page description be at least translated into German. ClemRutter (talk) 15:08, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
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- This is not as easy as it seems. I have moved BSIcon_ueSTRlf / lg / rf / rg to Commons, but when I try to mark the originals as "Moved to Commons" it says they are transcluded by User:AlisonW/Rail Icons. I have left a note on that page, but will not try moving any more until I can understand how this can be resolved. Bob1960evens (talk) 08:53, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
- I have moved a few more over to Commons, but there are lots which report This page is currently protected from editing because it is transcluded in the following page, which is protected with the "cascading" option: User:AlisonW/Rail Icons when you try to edit the image page. I have left another note on that page. Bob1960evens (talk) 09:16, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
- I eventually asked AlisonW to remove the protection on her page, and have now uploaded 47 icons to Commons. Commons Helper screwed up on uxKRZun and ugKRZun, and I cannot upload or copy them, because it says the file is corrupt. uxABZlf was already on Commons, so I marked it as such. uxHSTa is also on Commons, but is slightly different to the one on en:Wikipedia, so I have not marked it. The umlaut in ugWBRUCKE screws up Commons Helper, and it was not my icon, so I have not moved that one. I have not moved uxJUNCld-uSTRlf, since it can be created using overlays. Apart from that, all done, I think. Bob1960evens (talk) 13:52, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
- Not quite as done as I had hoped. 11 of the images have not been deleted from en:Wikipedia, because a bot detected they were not identical (although they look the same). I have left notes to say it is safe to delete them, but 14 days later they are still there. (ugHSTa, ugBASINl, ugBASINr, ueGRENZE, uxABZlf, ugBRUCKE, ugKRZu, uxgKRZu, ugLOCKSu, ugLOCKSl, ugLOCKSr). Not sure what to do next. Bob1960evens (talk) 20:43, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
- Have you gone to :en:, found the file- selected edit this file with external program- in the editor over written that image, with the one from :commons:, and resaved it? Thus you have the commons file on commons and now also :en:. Now re flag the :en: for deletion. Don't mean to patronise- but when logic fails, using a different type of logic can succeed- even when there is no logic in it! ClemRutter (talk) 00:45, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
- Not quite as done as I had hoped. 11 of the images have not been deleted from en:Wikipedia, because a bot detected they were not identical (although they look the same). I have left notes to say it is safe to delete them, but 14 days later they are still there. (ugHSTa, ugBASINl, ugBASINr, ueGRENZE, uxABZlf, ugBRUCKE, ugKRZu, uxgKRZu, ugLOCKSu, ugLOCKSl, ugLOCKSr). Not sure what to do next. Bob1960evens (talk) 20:43, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
- I eventually asked AlisonW to remove the protection on her page, and have now uploaded 47 icons to Commons. Commons Helper screwed up on uxKRZun and ugKRZun, and I cannot upload or copy them, because it says the file is corrupt. uxABZlf was already on Commons, so I marked it as such. uxHSTa is also on Commons, but is slightly different to the one on en:Wikipedia, so I have not marked it. The umlaut in ugWBRUCKE screws up Commons Helper, and it was not my icon, so I have not moved that one. I have not moved uxJUNCld-uSTRlf, since it can be created using overlays. Apart from that, all done, I think. Bob1960evens (talk) 13:52, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
- I have moved a few more over to Commons, but there are lots which report This page is currently protected from editing because it is transcluded in the following page, which is protected with the "cascading" option: User:AlisonW/Rail Icons when you try to edit the image page. I have left another note on that page. Bob1960evens (talk) 09:16, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
- This is not as easy as it seems. I have moved BSIcon_ueSTRlf / lg / rf / rg to Commons, but when I try to mark the originals as "Moved to Commons" it says they are transcluded by User:AlisonW/Rail Icons. I have left a note on that page, but will not try moving any more until I can understand how this can be resolved. Bob1960evens (talk) 08:53, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
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