Talk:Watershed (Opeth album)

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[edit] Song lengths

I think the song lengths should be removed, because I'm pretty sure they're wrong. Mike himself said on the Opeth forums that the album was just under 60 minutes long, and Coil was about 3 minutes long. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.127.8.6 (talk) 00:31, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh really? BTC 00:57, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Ya Rly —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.127.8.6 (talk) 23:18, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, if that's the case, then I will remove the time lengths from the page. I myself have seen two versions of the song lengths, and I'm not really certain which one to believe. So as I said, I'm going to erase the time lengths from the page. BTC 23:25, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure as to the figure, but the shorter version of the song lengths is the right one. At least, that is what one can assume from what Mike said, and the confirmation that Coil is only 3 minutes long. Anyways, I just didn't want any disappointed Opeth fans who thought they were getting a 69 minute album, but got a 59 minute album instead. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.127.8.6 (talk) 10:14, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
Allright, I understand. Where did you hear about Mike saying that Coil's a 3 minute song on a 59 minute album? I'd like to view that website. BTC 22:43, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/opeth/366641-new-album-called-watershed-out-june-2nd-17.html <- go there, and there will be member who quotes a french magazine that has song lengths for the album that add up to 55 minutes. Another member then posts the song lengths that were on this wikipedia page previously, with the typical Opeth song lengths (most over 10 minutes). On the next page of the thread, Mikael Akerfeldt comments that the album is actually about 55 minutes and the longer song lengths were completely wrong. Judging from this it's quite possible that the song lengths are: Coil (3:07), Heir Apparent (8:51), The Lotus Eater (8:48), Burden (7:42), Porcelain Heart (8:01), Hessian Peel (11:26), Hex Omega (6:59). Although it may be best not to assume anything.

Okay, thanks for that information. I'll remember that you showed me this page. Thanks a lot. BTC 21:50, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

I understand that the leaked versions of The Lotus Eater and Porcelain Heart are 8:51 and 8:01 long, respectively, which corroborates the French magazine's information about the track lengths. 98.214.88.110 (talk) 09:27, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Heir Apparent

I've removed the comment that a live performance of "Heir Apparent" was released on March 10th. It's not sourced, and I've checked the band's site, the band's myspace and the record label's site for any sign of this and have found nothing. Nothing was officially released. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.193.50.79 (talk) 18:41, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

I have heard some stuff about a leak of the same track and i even have a link to a sharing site (or whatever they call them these days!), so does anyone has any info about this?! Maged M. Mahfouz (talk) 00:19, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

--- The footage of Heir Apparent came from their performance on the Melloboat Cruise in the Baltic Sea on a Silja Line ship. This was the first time any material from Watershed was played and naturally people filmed it with their cellphones etc. 81.233.124.250 (talk) 10:24, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Which day is it?

What day is this album released? It says on this profile both May 30 and June 3. Which one is it? BTC 04:48, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Depends whether Wacken Open Air is a reliable reference or not! Anyone knows anything about this site? Maged M. Mahfouz (talk) 21:06, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

It's probably both. It will come out on different days throughout the world. Burningclean [speak] 21:30, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it could be both days. By the way, I don't know about the Wacken Open Air website. BTC 22:08, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Release of Special Edition cover

Opeth published the cover of the special edition Watershed on their official site. can someone find a legal photo source and add it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.132.254.225 (talk) 08:47, 7 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Travis Smith

The link in the article leads to the Trivium drummer - who, while i'm sure is very talented, is NOT the artist in question.

I'm sure that the Trivium drummer is not also the Opeth cover artist, either. I'm going to look into it. Thanks for mentioning this. BTC 19:57, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
He isn't the artist. The artist doesn't have an article. Burningclean [speak] 03:33, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Allright, then. What is appropriate to be in the parenthesis after Travis Smith's name? Or should the link be totally subtracted? BTC 20:23, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
I'd say just delink. If someone were to make an article, it would be Travis Smith (artist). Burningclean [speak] 20:37, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
I guess I will go delinking it then. Thanks for the insight. BTC 20:43, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Derelict Herds

Someone's changed the comment about the song Derelict Herds to say that it will be put on the Japanese release. They've also removed the citation that went with the comment that the song had been recorded. I can't find anything anywhere to say that it will be the Japanese bonus track, however, it does appear that it will be on the vinyl release. Possibly it will be both, but I think I will revert back to the version with the citation.80.7.59.211 (talk) 19:21, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bonus Tracks

Please can we keep Derelict Herds and Mellotron Heart separate from the tracklisting. Someone came along and added them to the list along with the others, but this is very confusing, especially as the tracks will probably not have consistent track numbers (e.g. Mellotron Heart will not be track 9 as it will be given on a separate CD, similarly track 8 on one version might be Derelict Herds while on another it may be one of the cover tracks). Also it's worth noting that Derelict Herds was written by Akerfelt and Wiberg, unlike most tracks on the album.80.7.59.211 (talk) 21:31, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Release date

This album was released on the Italian iTunes Store on May 19. Proof:

  • iTunes link (may launch iTunes, may not work outside Europe and/or Italy): [1]
  • Screenshot: [2]

If there are no objections, I will change the release date in this article as per WP:ALBUM. Mushroom (Talk) 23:53, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Y Done. I have also added the physical European release dates. Mushroom (Talk) 23:08, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] what is this album about?

Who or what is this alum about? a watershed? a funeral? A creepy looking guy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.169.205.197 (talk) 21:45, 4 June 2008 (UTC)


what are the special characters? and what do they mean on the last page of the album art? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.169.205.197 (talk) 21:54, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

That's a good question. I briefly wondered if it could be a concept album, but it's not necessarily a concept album. Anyways, I know this doesn't help much, but you could imagine what you want with all the characters and stuff. BTC 21:59, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Actually, in the January Metal Hammer magazine, Mikael said the lyrics do have a concept. Burningclean [speak] 23:21, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Aw, crap. I made the mistake of starting to listen to the album from shortest song to longest. I knoew I should've started on track one and advanced forward to the next track everyday. I got the album June 3 and I've been listening to one song per day off the album (like I usually do when I get a new album). I knew I should've listened to it in order of the track listing. I guess I'll stop here.
So, Burningclean, did Mikael say what the story was or did he just leave it at "it's a concept album"? BTC 02:03, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
He just said it was a concept. It was January so he didn't want to give too much away. Burningclean [speak] 01:36, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
I understand why that is. It's cool when people don't reveal much, like Mikael did. BTC 02:40, 7 June 2008 (UTC)