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[edit] Requests

YO! I love this website! It helped me with my school work and i got an A+! Thanks so much!

The definition for each type of water falls is not too clear. Would greatly appreciate 1. Little more clarification on the definition of each type 2. Example illustrations for each - may be sub-sections or new top level item 3. Photos for each type —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.236.40.254 (talk • contribs) 01:48, October 16, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] "Largest"

I understand "highest" and "highest volume", but what does "largest" mean? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.6.210.141 (talkcontribs) December 8 2005

I agree with the above anon comment, just what exactly is supposed to be meant by "largest" - the broadest in extent, or....? In general, these superlatives need to be qualified to describe more carefully what they are supposed to be comparing. Any ideas?--cjllw | TALK 06:07, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
I think largest usually refers to "most powerful", i.e highest product of volume and height (which would be the theoretical limit of power that couls be extracted from the waterfall). 195.128.251.71 22:42, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] claim to Nth America's tallest

I've removed the following recent insertion, pending a clarification (by "America's tallest", I presume the contributor meant Nth America):

Most do not know it, but neither Multnomah nor Yosemite Falls are America's tallest. In fact, real "waterfallers" as we will call them claim Colonial Creek Falls in the North Cascades of Washington State to be America's tallest. According to scientific predictions, Colonia Creek Falls drops 2584 feet, about 160 feet taller than Yosemite.

Anyone able to verify?--cjllw | TALK 06:03, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] a very good website on waterfalls, but with a caveat emptor

Way too much arguing on the ranking of the world's tallest (ie. highest) waterfalls, if you ask me. I have been photographing waterfalls for some 36-years. In 2008, after ten-years work, I will publish a book on Norway's waterfalls. Now, as for the Gocta Cataracts, those who insist that they are the world's third tallest need to bring out their calculators -- not to mention accessing the Google pages under waterfalls. For example, two Norwegian waterfalls -- Ramnejlsfossen (formerly called Utigordsfossen) and Mongefossen have been published as the world's third and fourth tallest respectively for a very long time. But, the recent discovers of Gocta are not about to let this verifiable information get in their way. After all, as Mr P T Barnum once remarked, "there is a sucker born every minute!'. I ask you, would you create news if you called Gocta the third tallest as opposed to the firth tallest. It does not take a genius to arrive at the answer. John Steven Lasher.--Jslasher 08:37, 4 April 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Highest volume waterfall listing may be incorrect

A waterfall website lists two waterfalls as being higher volume than Boyoma Falls. They are

  • Inga Falls at 1,500,000 cfs on the Congo River, Congo
  • Livingstone, Chutes de at 1,240,000 cfs on the Congo River, Congo
  • Boyoma Falls at 600,000 cfs on the Lualaba River, Congo

Seen on http://www.world-waterfalls.com/database.php?s=N&t=W&orderby=avevolume&sortLimit=5000

And if one wants to consider the Messinian salinity crisis where the Mediterranean Sea dried up and then re-flooded, the article says "the resulting waterfall could have been higher than Angel Falls is today (979 meters), and far more powerful." which would have dwarfed any current falls. Also, this webpage (http://www.semp.us/biots/biot_350.html) references Kenneth J. Hsu: “The Mediterranean Was a Desert”, Princeton University Press, NJ, 1983, pp. 6, 171., saying that "Salt water from the “bathyal realm” of the Atlantic inundated the Mediterranean desert as a “giant waterfall” that cascaded at the rate of about 40,000 cubic km/yr, more than a thousand times the rate of Niagara Falls, according to Hsu."

Doing the math you can see that 40,000 km³/yr is 1,268,391 m³/sec. (The Niagara Falls is 168,000 m³/min or 2800 m³/sec, which says the Gibralter falls would have been 500x Niagara.) (Either way these are not small numbers.)

[edit] Deletions with no explination.

Where has all the website links gone? In october of this year there was a great list of external website links...now there is only the world waterfall database which, albiet a great site, provides only the largest falls...There should be coverage of all not just the biggest. Also the link to Falls bagging has been removed. It's a stub, but its informative and related to waterfalls...no reason to remove it from this page. Can these be reinserted?

Comment from Npeeff: I just put back my waterfall website link to the Tahquamenon falls page because my site Escapingtoparadise has pictures of this waterfall and 40 other Michigan falls. It also has waterfall photos from 15 different states. If you visit my site and check the content, I don't see how it's not relevant to the subject of waterfalls? I recently put my link on this page and a few other waterfall pages on Wikipedia, but my links were erased because someone told me it was advertising. Am I trying to get more visitors on my site? Sure, but if you like visiting waterfalls, I think most people would enjoy my website.

--Npeeff 17:17, 10 January 2007 (UTC)Npeeff

[edit] Formation section graphic

Could someone with better software than I redo the graphic to fix the spelling? "Plungpool" should be two words. Also, there needs to be an 'e' on the end of "plung"; otherwise it rhymes with "dung" and "flung". Rivertorch 18:40, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 'chute-type' linked on featured picture, not in article

The main-page featured picture, labeled: "Fulmer Falls ..Fulmer Falls is a chute type waterfall located in .." has the words "chute-type waterfall" linked to the Waterfall page, but the term "chute-type waterfall" is never mentioned or defined there. I Googled all over the place and couldn't find a definition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.198.224.18 (talk) 07:58, 24 September 2007 (UTC)