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[edit] Text from historyguide.org - copyvio?

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To fix this problem, I removed this content and kept simply the external link to this content on historyguide.org. --David Edgar 14:15, 10 October 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Dagger symbol on CoL coat of arms

Someone removed the reference to the red dagger on the corp of London arms but it seems legit e.g.: [1]

Probably vandalism but it would be interesting to know.

veghead 21:09, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Ack! I'm wrong! According to the City of London page it's the symbol of the martydom of St Paul. Clarification anyone ?

veghead 21:16, 29 January 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Dartford

This article does not make any mention of Dartford, where Wat Tyler lived for a large portion of his life. Maybe this is not a significant part of his life, but Dartford make a big deal of being the home of Wat Tyler, and there are at least three pubs that make a big point of being connected to Wat Tyler in some way, maybe Dartford should be mentioned in some way? 86.0.172.155 19:40, 10 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Freemasons

Isn't there some question as to whether Wat Tyler was an actual individual. There is a school of thought that there was freemason involvement in this revolt and that the name was a made up name for a prominent or anonymous freemason based on the question "what tyler are you?" used in masonary ritual. Please, someone, shoot me down in flames.

Given that it's not really clear there were any freemasons in 1381, this seems unlikely. (There's the Regius Poem of 1390 as evidence, but it seems to be referring to an organization of actual stonemasons, as it gives advice about being one; to my knowledge Tyler's revolt was not primarily composed of operative stonemasons.) teucer 14:06, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] John Standwich quote

needs marking as a quote


[edit] Inconsistencies re: date and place of birth

I've removed the following sentence from the beginning of the article's second paragraph:

In 1320, six years after the Battle of Bannockburn and in the thirteenth year of the reign of King Edward II, the wife of Walter Hilliard, a roof tiler of the small village of Broxley, in Kent, gave birth to a son.

These details concerning both the time and place of Tyler's birth are contradicted by the statement, two sentences later, that

Historians believe he was born in Essex, but they are not sure when, and it is unclear when he crossed the Thames Estuary to Kent, where he would lead the revolt.

Other sources seem to confirm that the circumstances of Tyler's birth are unknown; and anyway, the deleted sentence has a novelistic tone inappropriate to an encyclopedia article. Dodiad 00:04, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

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