Talk:Washington's Headquarters (Valley Forge)

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I switched the image on this article to one taken myself. The prior version does not appear to be the correct house and it's very small and in black and white. I think this is a better alternative, but people are welcome to disagree. --Midnightdreary 15:50, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

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You may want to look again, it sure looks like the same place to me. And color isn't necessarily better. The new image has distracting tourists and the right side of the structure is cut off. Both have foreground distractions and the chimneys are obscured or cut off. I'm tempted to go over and take a new one today. :-) --J Clear 16:50, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

You may be right. The cannon in the front and the change in landscaping throw me a bit. I also agree that color isn't necessarily better... but at least this image is current; I couldn't find a date on the other one. Feel free to take another shot, but it's "distracting tourist" season anyway. :) Actually, I was wondering if it would be more appropriate to take a photo in the winter, rather than summer? --Midnightdreary 18:05, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

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Two more images. ----evrik ^(talk) 02:12, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

• • Personally, I like my image uploaded on June 20, (#3) which someone removed from the main Valley Forge article and orphaned, if only because it is a full frontal view and there are no people in it, compared to "right" on this stub or #4 now on the main Article page. But, I may be somewhat biased! JGHowes ^talk - 02:58, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, if you can't take criticism and rejection, wikipedia is not the place to be. ;-) As an illustration of the HQ, the fence in #4 is a bit distracting. Hmm, is there an article on that type of fence? As a photo, the bright shrub needs to be toned down. And I like the offset angle of 1,2,4 better. Of the four, I like #2 best, but it could be better as noted above.--J Clear 12:54, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

We could just pick one and use the other three in a gallery, especially if we can date that first photo. If it's from the nps.gov web site, they're usually from the 1970s (don't quote me on that), but that makes for an interesting visual comparison. I am without any image editing software, so someone else feel free to play around with the one I uploaded if it can be improved. (And, of course, in my biased opinion, mine is the best!! ;) --Midnightdreary 14:40, 24 June 2007 (UTC) ADDENDUM: I also have images of the recreated interior of the building, but I don't remember which room is which. Are they worth uploading? --Midnightdreary 14:42, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

I have no problem with a gallery for now, although having multiple copies of the same contemporary view doesn't make sense. And when the article grows, images can be pulled out as thumbs to illustrate a given room. Is there any WP policy on attaching a gallery to a stub? The B&W image might also be from that history of VF book that NPS hosts a copy of on their web site. --J Clear 14:59, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Just noticed one more problem with the current image: One of the shutters is missing! Got to remember to take my camera to work tomorrow. Guess if they haven't replaced the shutter it will be futile though. --J Clear 23:42, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

• • #3 has all its shutters!  :o) JGHowes ^talk - 23:45, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

I didn't even notice the mysterious missing shutter! Well, if we decide a new picture is needed I wouldn't mind running over there; I live about 2 miles away. --Midnightdreary 15:35, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

I have confirmed that the shutter is still not re-attached. It's actually being "stored" next to the side door. So, not sure where that puts us with this discussion. But I hear that #3 has all its shutters. ;) --Midnightdreary 23:47, 7 July 2007 (UTC)