Talk:WASTE

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Contents 1 Is WASTE really F2F? 2 Define official? 3 Revokation of the GPL 4 More Fokus on the Real W.A.S.T.E. Please! 5 What is going on with waste 6 NULLNET Access

[edit] Is WASTE really F2F?

I don't agree that WASTE is a friend-to-friend network. It's an invitation-only network, but once you've been invited you can discover the IP addresses of users you've never met before from [ping packets]. Michael Rogers

Shouldn't this page be at WASTE? whkoh 01:11, Mar 7, 2004 (UTC)

Well, I'll be bold and move it then, since there aren't any replies. ⇒ whkoh [talk][[]] 13:45, Mar 16, 2004 (UTC)

The text mentions that revocation of a license is not possible under the terms of the GPL but this seems to be missing the point. It's not that Nullsoft has tried to revoke a license granted by them, apparently the software was made available by someone who is not the copyright holder (even if he happens to be a Nullsoft employee) and the original license grant is invalid itself. Similarly, if I were to distribute Microsoft Windows under the GPL, MS would not be unable to stop this distribution as I am in no position to distribute Windows under any license. 82.203.196.197 11:01, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Define official?

Can it really say that we're linking to the 'official' WASTE website? I mean really, define official. In the eye's of AOL and Nullsoft (due to AOL's bullying or otherwise) it's certainly not official. Perhaps it would be better to just rename the link as 'WASTE on SourceForge' or something similar. Thoughts? Also I think this page could use more information on the posting and removal of WASTE, the controversey it stirred up and the implications of trying to revoke GPL'd licensed code. I'd do it but I can't find any good informed sources on the issue at this time. --AsianAstronaut 01:56, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Just to note: http://www.nullsoft.com/free/waste/ is the "offical" website.

[edit] Revokation of the GPL

The article states that revocation of the GPL "is not possible under the terms of the GPL license". However, can a license be considered valid if the software is leaked? IIRC, WASTE was released without the prior approval of AOL who is, ultimately, the copyright holder of the software. Only the copyright holder has the authority to offer any license to users. I believe the CEO of Nullsoft at the time quit over this dispute. 72.66.97.119 15:44, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

It is correct that one cannot "revoke the GPL" in the sense of retroactively asserting copyright on things the GPL allows. However, the page did not claim to revoke the GPL. It claimed that the person distributing the software held no rights to do so in the first place, which means that WASTE was never officially under the GPL anyway. There is a time and a place to defend the GPL, and it isn't here. Chris Cunningham 12:34, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Justin coded it, he wanted it to be under GPL. But the assholes at AOL got scared and didnt want so.

That's irrelevant, Frap. Chris Cunningham 16:33, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More Fokus on the Real W.A.S.T.E. Please!

The W.A.S.T.E. postal service does exist and it is probably the world's biggest conspiracy. Anybody mind that or am I the only member using Wiki? Okok, after all it is all underground and I am not really supposed to talk about it.

[edit] What is going on with waste

i joined and it says the network is down, please Reply. 65.147.189.229 01:33, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

You need to trade keys with someone else, you just can't just only connect.--Xercessthegreat 02:01, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NULLNET Access

Just to help anybody interested:

Email waste@gnet-group.com if you need access to "the" NULLNET.