User talk:Warlordjohncarter/Archive Apr 2008

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[edit] Partial list of stubs/short articles created or rewritten by Adv A students

I know there are a lot here but many are very short stubs. If there are a lot of grammar mistakes, just tag it with a clean up tag. I did not require that they wikify the articles due to time. Final versions for grading purposes are due Tue Feb 5 so any help you can give would be appreciated.

Santa Clara del Cobre, San Felipe del Progreso, Villa de allende, Ixtapan del Oro, Zumpahuacán, San Juan del Río, Nautla, Santo_tomas_de_los_platanos, Tejupilco, Saint Vincent (island), Jilotepec, Tlacotepec, Palizada, Santa Gertrudis (This student wrote about the town in Oaxaca State but it redirects to Misión Santa Gertrudis in Baja California. The student´s stub is under the information about the mission), Álvaro Obregón (municipality), Zentla, Bernal, Querétaro, Temoaya, Acambay, Xpu Há, Chapa de Mota, Pasorapa, Huasca_de_Ocampo, Malinalco, Mexico State, Almoloya de Júarez, Polotitlan, Córdoba, Veracruz, Mexicaltzingo, Lagunillas, Michoacán, Ixcateopan, Benito Júarez, Quintana Roo, Jocotitlan, Ixtlahuaca, Temascaltepec, Teapa, Tabasco, Huandacareo, Zualcapan, México, Capulhuac, Xalatlaco, Boca del Cielo

Thelmadatter (talk) 00:16, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to butt in, but do you just need these copyeditied? -- Ļıßζېấשּׂ~ۘ Ώƒ ﻚĢęخ (talk) 00:48, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
I think this is more for grading than copyediting at this point.

[edit] WikiProject Templates

I saw your comment about {{ChristianityWikiProject}} and {{WikiProject Australia}}. I have been looking for someone to help me with {{WikiProject Southern California}} and {{WikiProject Philadelphia}}. I tried to have those templates list their articles with the California and Pennsylvania prjects respectively. Maybe we can do that with Saints? The templates are incomplete. I could use help. --evrik (talk) 02:52, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

  • Check your email. --evrik (talk) 19:55, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Oceans/Oceanography

Hi there! I think such a project was initiated, but it did not get off the ground. I am very much interested in participating but, as with the original project and other commitments, I suppose this is something that just fell to the wayside? Anyhow, perhaps you should redirect your proposed project to the one linked above? Merci! Quizimodo (talk) 04:59, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Knight Kadosh

John, I'd appreciate your opinion (I'm not looking to start a fight) regarding categorizing the Knight Kadosh article in Category:Anti-Catholicism. Thanks!--Vidkun (talk) 14:58, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RfA thanks from Happy-melon

I just wanted to say thanks for your support for my RfA, which closed (74/2/0) this morning. Your comment and support was very much appreciated. Happy‑melon 15:44, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:ROBO

Apparently we have duplicate Robotics categories after the recent edits:

(Same thing with the List class categories)

Is there a way to move everything over to whichever one we're supposed to be using? Thanks! - Jameson L. Tai talk ♦ contribs 22:05, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXIII (January 2008)

The January 2008 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.
This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 01:30, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Misunderstandings

I've explained my concerns. So have others. I have never seen you respond directly to those concerns. I've always assumed good faith with your work (which has been a lot of good work, no one's questioning that), and I have only questioned the appropriateness of this work at this time in this project. This isn't because I feel I "own" the project, and I don't appreciate you throwing around such accusations. I am an active member, though, so when drastic changes suddenly occur without any discussion, and seem to be creating more clutter within the project, I am naturally curious and concerned. I can see the logical reasons for creating these projects (now that you're explaining it), but that fact that you never mentioned these major changes on relevant discussion pages at the start is what led to these misunderstandings (again, I was not the only one with concerns). You're finally starting to discuss this now, which is good. Please remember, not all of us are top WikiProject experts such as yourself, but we are here, and are working just as hard as you to improve this encyclopedia. Your expertize doesn't automatically override other editors' concerns, and delivering near-personal attacks and accusations of policy violations doesn't help to increase understanding, which is always the goal. My (and others') concerns still exist, but at least now I understand where you're coming from - hopefully you can do the same. I assume you're going to continue to move ahead, and though some editors (myself included) are not convinced of the benefit of these sub-projects, I'm resting my objections for the time being and am interested to see how the finished product works out. Once again, it is clear you are putting good time and effort into this, and I can (and do) appreciate that. Otebig (talk) 17:30, 4 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Article importance tag

(I'm keeping copies on both John Carter's userpage and mine) John Carter and Phoenix-wiki, I'd like to ask you both about the utility of the "article importance" rating that I recently commented-out of the Wikiproject Robotics template. My instinct is that the very last thing I need to hear is "Dan says my article is more important than yours". Did this fill any essential function in any previous Wikiproject? Is there some mistake we're likely to make because we misjudge the importance of Roomba or Robot? - Dan Dank55 (talk) 00:07, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

The importance rankings serve two functions. One, they permit the project to "prioritize" its articles, and perhaps give a bit more attention to the more important and less attention to the less important articles. Also, they are of use to the Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team, which expects to use importance rankings in the future to help determine which articles are included in future release versions and possibly as candidates for their collaboration. That's all that would be missed by not having them, though. John Carter (talk) 00:11, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
I'd like to support Version 1.0 any way I can, please alert me if we're reaching the point where you guys would like a list of suitable robotics articles, and I'll propose to the Wikiproject Robotics guys that we come up with a list for you. - Dan Dank55 (talk) 04:09, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
John, Jameson's opinion is different than mine, so I'm asking for more input if you want to give it. I know the "importance" tag has been useful in other wikiprojects and could potentially be useful when Version 1.0 needs input. Regarding Version 1.0, it seems reasonable to me to answer that question when we're actually faced with the question. Regarding former wikiprojects, a difference here is that we are currently having success with pulling new people into Wikipedia who have expert answers to the questions that need to get answered. This includes students, hobbyists, househusbands, academics, and professionals. For people who we really need not to annoy, but who are relatively new to Wikipedia, I think it would be counterproductive to slap a label of "low importance" on their article, no matter how careful we are to explain what it means. - Dan Dank55 (talk) 16:52, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Regarding "Low" importance ranking and the like, you have a real point. One thing that several projects have done is only assess for Top or High importance, or even just Top importance, leaving all the others blank. That way, a new editor might think that it just hasn't been tagged for importance yet. John Carter (talk) 17:01, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
I have no objection at all to using a separate template to denote high importance, top importance, or suitability for Version 1.0...and btw, I would totally support the idea of Wikiproject Robotics people stepping aside and letting Version 1.0 people make any or all of those determinations...you know your audience, we don't. Top ratings would be for a small minority of robotics articles, better not to rub everyone's face in that by putting it in the main template. Also, most of the new editors are wonderful people who have great wiki-values in general, but I just cringe a little bit when I consider giving them to-do lists, they're not going to be receptive. - Dan Dank55 (talk) 17:28, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
I don't always agree with article importance ratings, but it can be useful to assess some articles as more important than others because we'd like to get the VIP articles up to scratch first. I've yet to see someone say anything like "My article is more important than yours" though. WPP:BIO has just a top importance rating for stuff like George Bush and David Beckham and nothing for other aticles.--Phoenix-wiki 20:09, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

(unindent) FYI: I undid your comment-out on {{WikiProject Robotics}} since articles listed with importance=blah still registered on the bot retrieval process regardless of the visual display of importance on the project tag, so I just undid it until we have a clear set of article guidelines to follow. - Jameson L. Tai talk ♦ contribs 07:34, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I don't care how other projects do it, only Wikiproject Robotics, so I guess that would be the right forum...specifically, the page for admin issues, WP:ROBO/AEL. However, I personally think the arguments might be generally valid, and if anyone wants me to argue my points in any other forum, please tell me where to go (haha). I haven't really heard any argument here in support of putting this information at the top of every robotics page, instead of using a separate template on those articles we want to rate highly, which would have the advantage that it would let the Version 1.0 people make Version 1.0 decisions, so I'm not sure what the state of the argument is. - Dan Dank55 (talk) 14:15, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
The argument continues, but since I'm focusing both on robotics and my own role now, I'll stop copying here (you're welcome to do so, of course.) - Dan Dank55 (talk) 15:18, 6 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Redid this award, and wanted to pass it on

The Africa Award
John_Carter is awarded this Africa Award
for exemplary work on Africa-related articles.
Presented by a member of the WikiProject_Africa,
T L Miles (talk) 04:18, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


For all the thankless work on Descendant projects of the AfricaProject. It has made a huge difference. T L Miles (talk) 04:18, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Africa template

Yes! On behalf of WP:SADR, feel free to include the Western Sahara WikiProject in your template; this makes a lot of sense. Also, the notice template for that is broken, and if you really want something to do, you can fix it. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 05:54, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] mail

no problem! all talk pages are public, and the more people who comment, the better!! Slrubenstein | Talk 12:05, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Speedy deletion of use rpage

John I have trouble with somebody repeeatedly tagging my user page for speedy deletion. pLease intervene quickly -see the bottom of my talk page ♦ King of Baldness ♦ $1,000,000? 16:10, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Well its a little strange to have my user pages attempted to be speedied twice. It looked like clear vandalism and I have absolutely no idea how the user could have done it by accident twice. ♦ King of Baldness ♦ $1,000,000? 16:21, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Seems that way doesn't it. I wasn't serious when I returned the "favor" I wanted to see what his repsonse would be. It was the fact he did it twice I thought -WOW thats a first! must be a prankster. Seems he very trying to put a new article up for speedy -I;ve left him the admin link to show that this has been solved and that there is a drive to complete France at present which severla editors even this minute are creating. Sorry to bother you just alarming !! ♦ King of Baldness ♦ $1,000,000? 16:29, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

What I did was a total accident. I accidentally clicked on the userpage instead of the regular page, and thinking that it was a regular page I tagged it for deletion. It was not on purpose, and this user responded in the worst manner possible. In the future, I will try to be more careful. Redmarkviolinist Drop me a line 16:32, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Can you please remove my block thanks Kate ? 100$freehuman : ) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.220.6.59 (talk) 16:45, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

I can think of much worse ways in responding than I did Remarkviolinist. I'm afraid I don't generally respond very kindly to people who I believe are vandals but I can see it was a genuine mistake.

Anyway John any idea why the categories aren't showing up for Talk:Tshopo Province ? Ah it Ok I had to add a the ♦ King of Baldness ♦ $1,000,000? 17:17, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Preity Zinta

I've reviewed the article and left notes on the talk page. I've put the nomination on hold for seven days to allow the issues to be addressed. Feel free to contact me on my talk page, here, or on the article talk page with any concerns, and let me know one of those places when the issues have been addressed. If I may suggest that you strike out, check mark, or otherwise mark the items I've detailed, that will make it possible for me to see what's been addressed, and you can keep track of what's been done and what still needs to be worked on.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 18:38, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, I've tried to do something for now, but I'm immensely busy in real life. I find some of his comments very difficult to deal with. I think the lead looks nice but we only have to add the underworld controversy, because it was very very well publicised. I would be really grateful if you helped me a bit tomorrow with adding it. Just the wording is very important to me, and your writing is way better than mine. Thanks, Shahid • Talk2me 22:29, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
For example. The 2003-present section starts with "three of the highest grossing"
According to him, it is "vague. Does it mean 3 of the top 5 or 3 of the top 100?"
My answer is "Well it means three of the top three.:)"
These films were the three highest grossing films of the year. Do you have an idea to write it better? Shahid • Talk2me 22:34, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
In the very last para in the lead, what do you think about adding that (after the honesty etc): "This was primarily noticed in her testimonial against the Indian underworld during the 2003 Bharat Shah Case, after which she won the Indian National Bravery Award." Shahid • Talk2me 22:43, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Again thanks for your help with Zinta and in fixing the banners as I suggested. They look great now you've done very well! I'm afraid I'm at that stage where I've lost my enthusiasm for wikipedia which I get every now and then. I only feel like spending half on hour max on here at present. ♦ King of Baldness ♦ $1,000,000? 20:32, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

LOL yes indeed. There should be a category for editors who resemble hissing evil serpents or evil magicians too. I picture Sarvagnya as Professor Severus Snape or Randall Flagg the magician from the Stephen King novels. One might even say he;d make a good Wormtongue from LOTR also ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:09, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Unassessed-Class Spain articles

Hi. I deleted this, but I'm confused as to why you didn't do it yourself...... ? Pedro :  Chat  20:51, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey, that's why we promoted you :) ...No worries!Pedro :  Chat  —Preceding comment was added at 20:57, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Problems in Template WPPT

Hello John. Your last edits to the WikiProject Portugal's template seem to be causing problems that I'm afraid to have only noticed now. For one, the importance category seems to have been broken. For instance, Low importance-Portugal article now displays only a sandbox page from your user space. On the other hand, articles that did not need an importance rating like templates and categories now have an enforced "importance" switch making their assessment broken.

I don't want to go ahead and just undo your whole edits to fix these issues, so I thought it would be best to ask for your help to fix them.--Ivo Emanuel Gonçalves talk / contribs (join WP:PT) 01:03, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cannabis - tree of life - thank you

I am pasting this here, but it's on the original discussion page as well. Feel free to delete here.

I am only double pasting because I am going to leave wikipedia alone for a while and I wanted you to read this before I left.

...

Thank you for everyones time. Blueboar, your right. Let's end it as I'm sure you guys have more important things to do. One more note from me though: =)

PLEASE READ: It is in no way my original theory. The word "Kaneh Bosem" describes the use of cannabis in the torah but MSJapan wont allow that article as he is offended by cannabis in general. There is a media blackout relating to the historic use of cannabis, and I'm willing to bet almost nobody reading this knows about the historic use of cannabis in general. Nice blackout ay? Do some research, make some phone calls. I am not credible but no one will fact check me, interesting. I would be happy to call people, site references, whatever it takes. I figured the "tree of life" is a speculative topic and that all the research you have is riddled with generalities. Sorry my generality was cannabis, I know there has been billions of dollars put into stopping that generality. I forgot how effective that much money can be.

But it's not just me getting blackballed for sharing credible insight, look: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor_Wears_No_Clothes <- here is a professional researcher going through the same thing as me. Look at his page, notice a complete absence of information? This is no joke, all he is able to put up is a "contest to disprove it"? What about the actual information?

Once again thank everyone for reading this. If I must be suppressed, that is fine. It's not like this information hasn't been trampled by everyone on earth since the Catholic church changed the word Kaneh Bosem to Calamus. Keep up the good work. True history will totally disrupt the nice path of destruction mankind is blazing by criminalizing the potential best natural resource ever found. May everyone please try and see both sides here. I am not an authority, I can't overwhelm anyone with my side and make them see it, you would have to look yourself. However, I must note that no one will even listen to the authorities on the subject. We have a 70+ year media blackout around the world. Please look into it. (For a starting point on the media blackout in America please look into the Hearst media empire and a man named Herman Oliphant.) Btw, I'm related to the man that did the most to criminalize cannabis in the US (Herman Oliphant). Credibility via distant DNA? =)

--TaylorOliphant (talk) 18:53, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks - you are very right

Very right. I will adhere to the information you gave me and move very slowly in creating more refined content in the future.

It means a lot that you cared enough to direct me. No one sent me that info and I agree, that would have been great. I will be very careful with what I post in the future. If possible, I would like to ask you are another admin before I add something to a discussion page also. This banter that I set up has taken a ton of my time due to my ignorance and desire to communicate somewhat effectively.

Whatever I can do to show my respect.

Thanks, --TaylorOliphant (talk) 20:01, 8 February 2008 (UTC)-T

[edit] Cannabis and Hermetic Allegory

Wow, I just looked at your personal page. Your really the one I should have been talking to this whole time. I will get back to you in a week or so with a very pragmatic article for your approval. So mote it be. =) (Btw, this info is ALWAYS hidden from the profane or so I hear, that's why I didn't label the tree of life graphic cannabis, people should be aloud to figure that out on their own. I just like that graphic because it highlights it) Btw, I study hermetic philosophy based on William Walker Atkinsons work, I don't belong to any groups.

--TaylorOliphant (talk) 21:19, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


I just read what you wrote on my page. It looks like I should just keep all my replys in this comment box and not add others -sorry.

I too am a Christian, myself of the New Thought variety. Have I met you? =)

--TaylorOliphant (talk) 21:32, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Also, just the fact that you saw the graphic is exciting to me, based on your integrity and what you know, there is no way that graphic will ever leave your head. If you didn't see my post earlier, I'm related to Herman Oliphant, the gentleman that did the most to criminalize cannabis in the US. I know that if I can incorporate some level of questioning of the current laws about cannabis into masonic and religious thought (based on their own true history) I will have done the world a ton of good by giving the truth back to the people. Hopefully in some way, I will have made amends with The All for my Oliphant kin's very poor choice. You may be the only wikipedia editor that has a shot of getting what I'm trying to do and why. So, thanks again, and please excuse my lack of wikipedia experience. I will work very hard not to damage my family name more than has already been done by Herman Oliphant.

--TaylorOliphant (talk) 21:44, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Btw, I didn't mean to imply you were a New Thought Christian, but that I was also a Christian. If you are New Thoughtish, thats cool, but I'm not sure how that pan's out with the Catholic thing. Btw, I'm very pro Catholic as well -pro celebrating culture but not pro "infinite hell" dogma. I like the infinite love dogma myself. =) --TaylorOliphant (talk) 22:07, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello again - I've edited my user page with a bible quote that backs up the masonic connection with nice allegory. Read it if you can. Well, the quote about hemp right below it is the main point really. [1]

Howdy - I've pretty much given up on adding that image to wikipedia for now -I thought the Tiferet page would be fine but nay, not at the moment. I found this image: http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/ncnu02/images/hemp01.gif just now and thought it might be really powerful in light of the godislove.png image -of course the new image isn't a wikipedia idea, just a visual aid to promote my cause with you. Not that I feel you need/would act on my behalf, but that I feel, as someone who is apparently genius, you will do something good with this information if you are so inclined. I'm probably leaving wikiland for a while, I hope that I have somehow had a positive impact. (Btw, the new image has 11 leaves which I don't even know really exists in nature, 7 is the usual number.) The image also lacks fuel and cement, but it's still good. As you can tell by my edits, I care about accuracy very much. =)

God Bless, --TaylorOliphant (talk) 07:53, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Also, while I'm denying the fact I have more important things to do, you may be able to resolve this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Herman_Oliphant =) --TaylorOliphant (talk) 20:51, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hoping for your support for the A-class review of the William Stacy article

Hello again John Carter. My apologies for the bother, but I was hoping for your final support on the A-class review of the William Stacy article. I incorporated the edits that you suggested. Thank you, ColWilliam (talk) 01:02, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProjects relating to the UAE

John Carter, I think the best thing would be to merge all the WikiProjects (except for WikiProject Dubai) into a WikiProject United Arab Emirates. Each emirate does not have many articles relating to them, and they are not that important (in my opinion) to have their own project. Each emirate can probably be a subproject of the WikiProject UAE. How does this sound? Thanks. Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 01:57, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Warlord no more

Gosh, why would John Carter think that changing a username could be more trouble than it's worth? ;)

I always liked your old username. Not everyone will get the reference with or without the Warlord, of course, but I thought it was fun. I have wondered, if I might impose to ask: Why did you change it? Did you abdicate your lordship out of concern that the old title seemed a bit aggressive for an administrator? Doczilla (talk) 05:03, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks john : )100%freehuman (talk) 09:22, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:Eurohist Collaboration of the month

I drummed up a quick idea for a nominating system for collaboration of the month, to avoid this lag time we're having. Check it out.

Cheers! - Revolving Bugbear 13:47, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Huh?

I was surprised to see your 'vote' here; it is an image with a colour added, the associated debate is irrelevant. If someone adds it somewhere, that is not a cause for deletion. Neither is a "hidden POV", whatever that is, giving a cause either. IMO, well, you can probably guess my opinion on the actions of 'them', so I will skirt WP:NPA on this occasion. Other than that, love your contributions and hope you keep it up. Cheers, cygnis insignis 03:01, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. It is a fascinating topic, another interest that we share, but it is certain to be a controversial one. I now regret that I chose to introduce myself with a sour note, if I post here again it will be on a more cheerful subject. Best regards, cygnis insignis 07:55, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RFA thanks

.: RFA thanks :.

[edit] A little advice

Hi John. I need a little advice please.

As you already saw, in 2003, Zinta starred in the three highest grossing films of India (The Hero (3), Kal Ho Naa Ho (2) and Koi Mil Gaya (1)). In 2004, in the top-grossing film in India (Veer-Zaara). Apart from that, during 2003-2006, she starred in top grossing Bollywood films in the overseas market (Kal Ho Naa Ho, Veer-Zaara, Salaam Namaste, KANK).

I know all of that cannot be added in the lead. We only mention that she starred in two annual top grossing films in India (Koi Mil Gaya and Veer- Zaara) and that Salaam Namaste and KANK were top grossers overseas.

We don't mention that she starred in the three highest grossing films of 2003, that Veer-Zaara and Kal Ho Naa Ho are overseas top grossers etc., but the seconf para in the lead states: "Zinta received her first Filmfare Best Actress Award for her performance in the drama Kal Ho Naa Ho in 2003."

By saying that, we are ignoring the fact that Kal Ho Naa Ho was a hit (and it was the second highest grosser in India and the top grosser overseas). I thought to add that it was an "internationally successful" film, meaning, to add to the sentence: "Zinta received her first Filmfare Best Actress Award for her performance in the internationally successful drama Kal Ho Naa Ho in 2003."

The film was definitely a big success abroad. It was translated into several languages, released on different dates with different titles. Not only was it the top grossing Bollywood film abroad, but it was a big success for itself. See this and this.

So can I write the above-mentioned description? Please tell me what you think. Best regards, Shahid • Talk2me 19:05, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh thanks! I hope nobody takes it as POV. Regards, Shahid • Talk2me 19:31, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

If you don't mind me butting in - I would personally avoid the generalisation that it was "internationally successful" as this implies that it is most countries. I would be inclined to be more specific and mention the countries that the film was most successful in, unless i am wrong and it was successful in countries of Africa, Latin America and South East Asia? Probably it was successful in North America and the states and Australia etc and perhaps many European countries some obscure like Finland and in Morocco, North Africa but I doubt it was in many others. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 22:22, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

John, please tell me if it sounds well according to you:
"The film was received favourably by critics, and became India's second biggest hit of the year after Koi... Mil Gaya. It also did well internationally, and surfaced as the biggest Indian hit of the year overseas, earning over Rs 600 million worldwide."
Thanks, Shahid • Talk2me 16:43, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, and sorry for bothering you so much with this article. Regards, Shahid • Talk2me 16:52, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] More on banners

Oh hi Shahid small world. When I commented on the Botswana banner I had anticipated that you had made them all like that, Having worked on articles related to Guatemala and Bahrain for instance today I see they are still as before. Do you intend making them the same way? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 22:16, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Right now, as indicated on the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Africa page, the Africa banner has a serious problem in having too many switches, apparently more than the server will support. I've suggested breaking up into 5 banners, on for each region, or removing the importance assessments there, to make the existing banner servicable, and would appreciate any response of any kind there. There would be a problem in creating the regional banners, in that there would, seemingly, then be cause to create projects to match those banners, but like I said the server doesn't want to work with the existing banner. John Carter (talk) 22:20, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

I had a feeling something like that would happen. I'm not going to suggest seperate banners as I know so much effort is going into uniting it all as one but what five regions are you referring to? Do you mean like North Africa, Western, Eastern, Southern and Central Africa? Are there such classifications? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 22:26, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

The UN breaks Africa up into five regions, as per Africa#Territories and Regions. Actually, breaking up the existing banner into five separate banners wouldn't be that much work. There might be a question about the matching regional projects, though. John Carter (talk) 22:31, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Hmm its not that I;m thinking about. I'm considering if normal editors went in to tagging a page in the future and might be confused over which template to use. E,g they would try the national one and see there isn't one then would try the Africa one and not see that (because it isn't reading as WikiProject Africa anyway its AfricaProject) and by the end of it would probably give up unless they are sensible enough to find the project page which instructs them. I;m just trying to think what would be the easiest solution for normal editors ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 22:37, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

If the five regional banners and possibly projects were created, there wouldn't be much if any need for the existing Africa project template, and, maybe, not even the Africa project itself. John Carter (talk) 22:40, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

That would be a good solution I think. To divide up Africa by territory and split the editors into the five different areas and then each of the five assigned to look after its divisional countries e.g the project pages for each country. I've always thought the "Africa Project" is shamefully generalized -could you imagine the "European Project" existing as one without divisions!!!! but something tells me that the project don't want change and would rather they remained as a continental project., but unfortunately we'll have to put up with uneveness for some time until more become interested over time in the individual countries.

Anyway talking about Guatemala/El Salvador earlier I found a web book on the History of Natural Disasters in El Salvador which has got to be over 500 pages long. Each page has information on like 10 or more different earthquakes or events throughout its history. I started 1717 earthquake earlier but you could probably create 10 or more articles using each page alone let alone on all 500 pages!!! There must be a potential few thousand articles missing from that book alone. Just imagine how many articles are missing from each of these places in total. Ahhh I promised I would try not to whimper over that. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 22:56, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

As long as you aren't making more work unnecessarily for yourself it doesn't really matter. Keep me posted on what is happening with them anyway. Regards ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 12:14, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Anyway I've fixed the settlement box for Mexico so inofboxes can be added to articles like Álamos. Looks cool doesn't it!! I can't believe how many Mexican articles are untagged. Perhaps you could unlease a bot to tag them all?! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 16:52, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Mexico is one of the largest countries I've seen where most of the articles don't seem to be tagged. Could you help out, or did you intend using a bot? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:40, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes I noticed a few but strangely some of the older ones weren't tagged. And of course they aren't assessed yet. Most I've come across are either start class or stubs. Possibly most who would be likely to be from Mexico and a contributor would unfortunately be working for spanish wikipedia instead ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 18:58, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

There appears to be a problem with the list parameter for France banner. See Talk:César Awards 1976. Could you correct it thanks ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 21:18, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I take it you couldn't fix the french banner above? Also Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan and a number of the other central asian places need "bannerizing". You probably haven't forgotten ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 21:53, 12 February 2008 (UTC) Yep no probs, it would certainly make life easier if a bot could be programmed in to tag articles of a certain length as stubs anyway. I know this has been done in the past. Given that most articles are stubs it would save a lot of unneccesary work. I;ve also idenified the lack of coverage on those central asian countries - most people don't even know the capitals of countrie such as Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan etc let alone about its other cities - even I get them mixed up occassionally. Turkmenistan looks not far off the size of Turkey and we know how many settlements and articles Turkey has or could have!! I;ll tag them as e.g Turkmenistan= for now so when you add the paramters later it will be set up ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 22:01, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Template:Micronesia/Task force categories

A tag has been placed on Template:Micronesia/Task force categories requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section T3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a deprecated or orphaned template. After seven days, if it is still unused and the speedy deletion tag has not been removed, the template will be deleted.

If the template is intended to be substituted, please feel free to remove the speedy deletion tag and please consider putting a note on the template's page indicating that it is substituted so as to avoid any future mistakes (<noinclude>{{transclusionless}}</noinclude>).

Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 21:37, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your GA nomination of Messianic Judaism

The article Messianic Judaism you nominated as a good article has failed , see Talk:Messianic Judaism for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of said article. If you oppose this decision, you may ask for a reassessment. jackturner3 (talk) 21:42, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Masonry and the kabbalah

I'm sure your busy and probably a little tired of me. =)

If you have time sir, I think you might have good insight on this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Freemasonry#Pike

(And feel free to tell me I'm wrong too, I'm here to learn, not to show people how smart I think I am -which varies a lot, let me tell you)


This is a good debate ay? Wikipedia is such an amazing thing. --TaylorOliphant (talk) 23:36, 12 February 2008 (UTC)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masonic_bodies <- searched for "advanced" turned up nothing, but I see what your saying. I don't know anyone that actually uses the term "advanced degrees" either (This hit me after the fact -I do see/hear the term "advanced degrees", but I don't really restrict myself on that basis normally, maybe I should. --TaylorOliphant (talk) 04:57, 13 February 2008 (UTC)) Although, I do have personal insight into what a few York/Scottish Rite members think of the kabbalah and I should have no problem at all giving it a small home on the their respective articles. I am tempted to have an actual Mason add it also, so I might wait a minute for one of my friends to get wikified, we'll see how it goes. When I first was given a copy of Morals and Dogma I refused to read it out of respect for the "masonic use only" quote under Pike's picture in the front. I really try to be good about respecting masonic boundaries but I'm learning that masons generally like me and don't really care what books I have access to because my integrity is my highest priority. (Unfortunately my spelling and grammer often suffer, especially when I get a tad worked up like earlier. I'll proof read a few hundred times before I actually submit anything. =)

[edit] Re: Kitties

I suspected as much; but, at least for the near future, I'd like a break from large groups of kitties. ;-) Kirill 01:40, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Military history coordinator selection

I know you have commented on the pages already but here goes: The Military history WikiProject coordinator selection process is starting. We are aiming to elect nine coordinators to serve for the next six months; if you are interested in running, please sign up here by February 14! Woody (talk) 11:06, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Preity Zinta

It failed GA. Please see my comment on the talk page. I disagree with the review for the simple fact that I'm not forced to add any other reviews from Western critics, and it is not supported by any GIAFA criterion. And if you see with some more observation, in the NYT site, there are no other reviews describing her film performances at all. She is an Indian, I can't see why we must add Western reviews when A) Western reviews cannot describe her better than Indian ones. B) There are not many Western reviews describing her film performances at all. In the NYT, there is only one review describing her performance in the film Salaam Namaste, and nothing else. I find this review completely unfair, and there is no basis to his claims. Please do something. This article is definitely a GA. Regards, Shahid • Talk2me 17:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeh but there are no other Western reviews. Where can I get ones from? I can't invent them. She is an Indian, not an American. Will he agree if I add Indian reviews to Angelina Jolie's article? It is quite irrelevant. Shahid • Talk2me 17:32, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
Do you mean ref no 7? Is it really a concern? I didn't know that... The case is, when I took part in the Cillian Murphy FAC I saw that one editor suggested to collect multiple sources into one ref, when they come to backup the same claim. Is it really prohibited? Thank you for the help. Shahid • Talk2me 18:21, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject Brunei

I just noticed you upgraded the BWG to a complete Wikiproject. Does that mean we have to update the "This project This article is within the scope of ..." box on the talk pages of each of the individual pages to reflect the change as well? --Novelty (talk) 03:51, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP Shakespeare

Yeah, I found it just after I posted that message and joined. Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge). (talk) 17:59, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Living daylights afd

As you are a James Bond project member its a little disappointing Vikrant didn't discuss this with his peers in the project first particularly as he was the one who merged them in the first place. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of James Bond henchmen in The Living Daylights and fele free to offer your views. Thanks ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 18:05, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

LOL yes indeed. There should be a category for editors who resemble hissing evil serpents or evil magicians too. I picture Sarvagnya as Professor Severus Snape or Randall Flagg the magician from the Stephen King novels. One might even say he;d make a good Wormtongue from LOTR also ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:09, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi John I'm not too up on whats going on myself but User:PHG seems to be having a lot of dfficulty, whether is rightly I don;t know but a constructive editor like that who has out a lot of good work into wikipedia should never be discouraged from editing and if there are factual accuracy concerns I feel this could be discussed easily with the group concerned rather than filing an arb to block the user. See User talk:PHG and Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Franco-Mongol alliance/Workshop. The situation seems to have got way out of hand. PHG is concerned that he is being bullied, Perhaps you could read up on it and chip in, I haven't left much of a comment and I don't know the details either, but from my experience and John Hills, an expert on central asian history this editor has a history of excellent and valuable contributions to the project and I'd hate to see another editor like that feeling forced to leave ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:45, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] SE Asia template

You seem to have messed up a bit of code when you did your edits to Template:WikiProject Southeast Asia. See Talk:Pak Khlong Talat, for example. Calliopejen1 (talk) 20:11, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Scientology merger

I appreciate your sentiments and they have been duely noted. On an unrelated matter, your Talk page is ridiculous, you should consider having it archived at a faster rate. - YYN (talk) 17:29, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] coordinator election

The Wikiproject History is going to elect 3 coordinators. As a member you are invited to participate. Wandalstouring (talk) 10:47, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sounds like a discussion that calls for input from you

Please see: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Council#WikiProject_banners.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 18:14, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] E-mail

You'll be receiving one soon. Rtac. 22:05, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:EH collaboration

I changed it to Monastic state of the Teutonic Knights and added your suggestions to the nominate page. - Revolving Bugbear 23:03, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] France

Trust me on this one. At least five wikipedias have had these for years and we are laggin way behind but precious few people realise it., Once they are started infoboxes can be copied directly from french wikipedia and articles can begin development. Basically I'm half way through putting 30,000 new article onto wikipedia. Notability is without a question. You could probably write many articles on places within them on churches etc etc let alone an article on the town. See Ottrott. Does that look like a notable place which a lot could be written about? You'd be amazed how much is actually missing. My method is the best way to set up a platform to build the content on.

♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 00:07, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I can see you aren't convinced. I would normally always add an infobox and some facts but because of the sheer amount missing , yes which should have been started at least five years ago this is the best way to get it up and running. I don;t think you are understanding that many of these places are actually towns and it is quite ignorant of wikipedia not to have something on them yet. Some of the "useless" or "non notable" German geo stubs on here -have a look at German wikipedia. Full articles like Chicago and will a heap of lovely images to boot ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 00:28, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes I thought you felt the same way. I've actually proposed some kind of inter-wiki translation system to Jimbo to be created which would enable articles on other wikipedias to be translated quickly and vice versa. When I was looking for some info on Hungarian and SLovakian places I found tons of info in the native languages but none in english. When I google search for some kind of translation system the ones like babelfish only cover a handful of the biggest languages and you have to pay exorbitant amounts to access a Hungarian translation package and the ones other than the most common world languages. I genuinely believe if we could found some sort of Wiki Translation programme we could see knowledge flowing even easier. I for one if we had some form of system would be filling out the stubs as we speak. Jimbo will probably ignore it but if you think it is a good idea I am thinking about making a formal council proposal on arb. Let me know your thoughts on this ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 00:39, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Yep. I know it has some flaws like that but the idea in principal is good I think. Even between Latin and Spanish Spanish words like coger mean radically different things in general expression! I'm sur epeople could identify the obvious mis translations but I think it would be good to bring up the subject. If you weren't convinced before see Albas. Then look at the French wikipedia article ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 00:49, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Niue? We need images? I'll have a fish around in flickr see if I can make an agreement. There should be a lot of images on there. I've just realised why User:Rudrasharman who displayed a very cynical view of things at that bot discussion last night and who mocked it and appeared rude; he is a close ally of Sarvagnya. They have got to be the coldest and most cynical bunch of people I've ever come across. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:02, 18 February 2008 (UTC)


I would suggest making an agreement with a user likerock farmer at flickr. Check out how many countries he has in there. Includes lots of countries we need images for including Niue, Botswana. Kryrgzstan etc. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:10, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes I see what you mean. You;d think the government would be willing to put the island out there and raise awareness of it if the economy is suffering. Perhaps this would interest you ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:13, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Could you find me a more specific link. See also this. Did you know that User:David Shankbone has been forced to leave wikipedia. I hate seeing these admin pages and the attitude of other people on this site and how deluded they are with what wikipedia is about. So many are missing the point. Well you know how I feel about most of the editors I;ve come across on here anyway. They seem to forget it is an encyclopedia which needs a huge amount of development but rather a playground for cyber-bullying. Not good. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:26, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Please check your email. I;ve found you a contact ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:29, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:Central Asia

WOndering if you are planning on sorting out the banners for WikiProject Kazakhstan, WikiProject Kyrgyzstan, WikiProject Tajikistan, WikiProject Turkmenistan and WikiProject Uzbekistan. Also you could do with archiving your talk page! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 19:44, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Oceans project proposal

I have received a comment to the effect of maybe instead of creating a new project for Oceans, we might try to reactivate the now-dormant Wikipedia:WikiProject Oceanography. If we were to do this, I would prefer expanding the scope, and probably changing the name, to reflect the expanded scope. However, it would have the advantage of not requiring the five members to justify creation of a separate project. Do you have any opinions in the matter? John Carter (talk) 14:27, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

The only real difference would be in the amount of "categorization" as it were. The extant project deals with the Category:Oceanography, while the proposed project would probably deal with the rather broader Category:Oceans, or, probably more specifically, articles in that category that aren't already explicitly covered in the scope of any other active related project. Exactly how many more articles that would add I don't know though. John Carter (talk) 16:29, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
OK, let's do it.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 03:43, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Jodhaa Akbar

Hello! I need your help John.

124.125.208.23 (talk · contribs) keeps on reverting the above-mentioned article to his very version. His version means -- some unreferenced claims, reviews from unreliable sites and above all -- the full history of the name "Jodhaa Bai" (and what historians think about it) which he thinks belongs to this article, while it is irrelevant here because it is an article about a recently released film, and the history of this name belongs to another article called Akbar. In this article it's irrelevant. I was reverting his edits, warning him, discussed the issue on the talk page, and even another editor told him that this info was more relevant to the page of Akbar, but he keep reverting. That's how the page looked in his version. Total violations of WP:LEAD, WP:N and WP:UNDUE

Not only that, he also reverted all the edits by all editors, while there were numerous constructive edits in between, like formats etc. I turned to User:Riana yesterday but she seems to be busy. During the night, he took my request to stop adding it and moved the so called info (which is referenced, but irrelevant) to the synopsis section... Imagine to yourself, the history of the name Jodhaa Bai and what historians have to say about it in a synopsis section! See the version after his night edits - [2]

Today I requested for page protection because of heavy vandalism, and was sure that he would stop with that, but now I see another editor, Itihaaskar (talk · contribs) who is a clear sock puppet of this IP, reverting the page to this IP's version! Again, reverting altogether, with no consideration of the in-between edits, even the protection template was removed -- see that comparison.

Please do something, I'm losing my temper. This info clearly belongs to the Akbar aticle, and he still keeps doing the same. This guy has a documentative history: he used a sockpuppet, and is going to violate not WP:3RR. My best regards, Shahid • Talk2me 17:16, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

What about hm using a sockpuppet? Shahid • Talk2me 17:30, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian Christianity

Star of The Indian Christianity Articles
Thank you for help in Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian Christianity Tinucherian (talk) 19:02, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Another afd

I'm amazed at this latest nuke proposal. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pál Balkay ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 21:48, 18 February 2008 (UTC)


I've just come across a new article Manoir de Brion which links a village stub I created on Genêts earlier. Coincidience or what? In fact it was only created less than two hours ago and already somebody else had created a related article ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 22:17, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I haven't created many today as I'm feeling a bit discouraged after the comments made yesterday by Sarvagnya's friend. I need to learn to not let people like that affect me. All of the articles will be expanded soon enough and I feel I am making good progress whatever anybody else thinks. Its a shame most of the french editors don't edit english wikipedia! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 22:30, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I hope so. There's just a really cold air that surrounds that group, almost like the Nazguls in lord of the rings. I just don't get why people get off on being mean and how they can possibly justify their attitude as in good faith. I've got some learn french books anyway I should aim to start being able to at least read and write it. ANyway I;m trying to fix the Template:Location map Guyana I just created. Its all messed up and showing the town on the article I tried in on down below the wikipedia free licensing terms and I don't know why!! -ah simple mistake. The map template is correct I just assumed Guyana was south in coordinates rather than north ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 22:44, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

There we go. Georgetown, Guyana. Guyana locator map works. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 22:59, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Category:Ecuador articles? Whats happened with that? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 19:55, 19 February 2008 (UTC)


Thats odd. Why bother creating a different category? Now its messed up and there is no assessment of it ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 20:04, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Asking for your help

Hello there,

After my teacher´s recommendation, I kindly ask you to help me with one topic for this writing course. I have to choose a topic related my major. I do not know whether you can guide me in order to look for something related to economics, international trade or something else related to these topics.

She asked us to look for something which is not in wikipedia yet. I know I have to be more specific, but meanwhile I hope you can give me your first commentaries.

My user name is Citlalli Garnica.

Thanks for your attention and time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.139.140.248 (talk) 00:03, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Please see comments here. John Carter (talk) 00:14, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] request for assistance on RfC

I just read your reply here. May I request your assistance in preparing/presenting the RfC, and of course, a request that you add your own view after? Would greatly appreciate it. Ncmvocalist (talk) 01:19, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Elijah Gates Assessment

As the creator of the Elijah Gates article, I have posted a reply to your comments regarding your assessment of the article on the article's Talk page. --TommyBoy (talk) 03:02, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP East Timor

Wow! I can't believe what a bonehead I am to have missed that! Can I just remove my idiotic proposal then? Thanks and sorry for the confusion! – Scartol • Tok 14:06, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I'll be happy to make a userbox today, but the link on the main project page is to the template namespace, and my understanding is that such boxes should only exist in userspace. How about I make it in my userspace? – Scartol • Tok 14:08, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Archive your talk page

I don't know if you realise but your talk page is a whopping 262 kb and my computer screeches to a halt when I leave a message. Why have you stopped archiving it? That bot doesn't do it any more. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 20:07, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I changed the length of time for archiving earlier this month, and evidently the bot screwed up. John Carter (talk) 20:12, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Ah I see. These are the kind of images that are valuable to the encyclopedia. See Image:Primary Laos.jpg and the images I added to Luang Prabang. I've flown over Laos via Hong Kong-Bangkok and was amazed even 35,000 feet up how lush it looked. Things are gradually developing, this time last year I remember the commons only had about 4 or 5 pictures of Laos other than maps ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 22:17, 19 February 2008 (UTC) Thats good. Anything like that is a plus. Yes thats why I feel so strongly about developing these "exotic" places across the world as I feel any encyclopedia which can venture into the "misty" territory, places people have never heard of or likely to have seen in detail which an abundance of images makes it more exciting and mystical, particularly when they look as ecologically and culturally rich as this. I think it makes the site more special and more of a treasure to have a greater amount of places and images we can get hold of. I don;t know about you but I find these world cultures and places really special, fascinating. When I;'ve made flickr agreements I;ve been looking for images which capture parts of the world as they are, people in every day activities etc, every day streets etc. Too many city articles may have images of the panoroma or a few buildings but little of what is actually experienced there in every day society. This we should try to capture I think and most of the flickr users I have come across are also attempting to do this. Good luck with Niue, hopefully they'll respond. The more agreements we make with people the better. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 22:37, 19 February 2008 (UTC).

Yep those infoboxes and locators and images make a big difference even if they are still stubs. See Sam Neua, Vang Vieng and Xaignabouli. Vang Vieng looks like an ideal spot for a swim don't ya think -looks rather inviting I think. We as yet only have about ten articles on towns in Laos. Theres probably a few more out there than that ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 23:16, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

I've just added about ten images to Bodrum Castle. That place looks awesome!! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 00:34, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] OhanaUnited's RFA

.: Thank you! :.

[edit] Bot tagging request

Would this be a good opportunity to convert {{WPReligion}} to use {{WPBannerMeta}} before the number of articles tagged with this banner gets overly huge? It seems a fairly standard banner, so probably no drama converting. I can do it if you want me to. Happy‑melon 18:15, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Current tagging

Hello John Carter. Unfortunately, I fear that you may not have thought through the tagging request that you put in that betacommandbot is now performing. A quick look here [3] will show you several examples of articles that have been tagged incorrectly. As I stated on the bots talk page there are many articles that can fit in the scope of a given category, but, don't necessarily fall into the scope of the religion project. Biographies and works of fiction are particularly apt in needing this distinction. Please don't take this the wrong way. I am not upset with you (betacommand's snarkiness is another matter) and the damage is already done. Other editors will cleanup the unneeded tags over time. This is just a note to give more consideration to things like this in the future. Thanks for your time and happy editing. MarnetteD | Talk 19:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

You seem to be missing the point. The categories that you included in your request have 100's if not 1000's of articles in them that have little or nothing to do with the wikiproject for religion. As I went through the bots contribution page I found at least four in a short period of time that met the criteria for the category but not the project. The Doctor Who article can easily fit in the scope of reincarnation just as Ben Kingsey's article is about a man who is a Indian/Christian just as the article about the song Lillibullero‎ fits into its anticatholic category to say nothing of the villages known as Jasb. None of them fall into the province of the wikiproject for religion. As I am not the only editor that noticed the mistakes that the bot was making it looks as though the tagging of the categories that you listed in your request would be better off done by a human. It should also be noted that it would, most certainly, be wrong to begin to remove the categories from the pages in question just because they don't fall into the scope of the religion project. MarnetteD | Talk 19:43, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
You have again missed the point and your escalating rudeness is a bit sad. The inclusion of the page Louis Auguste Blanqui in your tagging shows how that you did not think through your requests. This matter is now at the admin notice board as you already know please take all future discussion there and a consensusu will be reached one way or the other. MarnetteD | Talk 20:10, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
A quick look shows that I was not the first to complain to betacommandbot nor did I start the thread on the AN page. I tried, politely (and AGFing}, to point out the pitfalls of the path that you had taken. I am now trying to add to the attempts to achieve consensus with other editors. As always I will abide by that consensus. MarnetteD | Talk 20:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
I wonder does it make any sense for Rosie O'Donnell to be tagged this way? (I'm not even sure what category got her the Religion/Interfaith tag.) Aleta (Sing) 21:23, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your answer, John. I read the posts at ANI after posting here, and realized it must have been the Anti-Catholicism, as well as that you're following up on all the tagging. I'll leave it alone for now, and let you figure out whether or not to leave it. I know the category itself has been controversial for her page, which I mainly passively watch. :) Aleta (Sing) 21:44, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Why are all politician bios getting project religion tagging? Mikebar (talk) 06:39, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Spamming

Concerns about your edits have been raised at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Mass-spamming_by_User:John_Carter_and_User:Betacommandbot. Johnbod (talk) 19:46, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Template:User WikiProject Hanseatic League

A tag has been placed on Template:User WikiProject Hanseatic League requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section T3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a deprecated or orphaned template. After seven days, if it is still unused and the speedy deletion tag has not been removed, the template will be deleted.

If the template is intended to be substituted, please feel free to remove the speedy deletion tag and please consider putting a note on the template's page indicating that it is substituted so as to avoid any future mistakes (<noinclude>{{transclusionless}}</noinclude>).

Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 19:47, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Template:User WikiProject Hotels

A tag has been placed on Template:User WikiProject Hotels requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section T3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a deprecated or orphaned template. After seven days, if it is still unused and the speedy deletion tag has not been removed, the template will be deleted.

If the template is intended to be substituted, please feel free to remove the speedy deletion tag and please consider putting a note on the template's page indicating that it is substituted so as to avoid any future mistakes (<noinclude>{{transclusionless}}</noinclude>).

Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 19:47, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Former Rabbit?? :)

[4]

I think all of us are probably former rabbits if one believes in evolution :P

Cheers, --Be happy!! (talk) 22:39, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

No worries! I noticed it was a typo. Cheers, --Be happy!! (talk) 22:53, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] IZAK

I am very sorry for the drama which you have been involved in due to IZAK. I also have been subject to his personal attacks, incivility, violations of WP:OWN and know several others who have. Based on him behavior as of late, which seems to be out of control, might you be interested in participating in a RFC/U on IZAK? Bstone (talk) 18:21, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

He does have a strong a long history of personal attacks, not assuming good faith, incivility, etc etc. As a matter of that history might I suggest you read this? Let me know what you think. Bstone (talk) 18:30, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
I am not sure if Shirahadasha can help out here. IZAK here seemed to indicate that he puts little weight in other opinions. I think I may begin to fill out the RFC/U paperwork and begin collecting diffs. Bstone (talk) 19:03, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Per your request, the RFCU is here Bstone (talk) 20:35, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Meetups

Hi, John. I've left you a reply at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Sponsorship of meetups?.. Thanks.--Pharos (talk) 20:07, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Contact

Actually I did contact you regarding lot of things in email a few days ago regarding your proposal. Can you tell me if you received that email or not? Hobartimus (talk) 17:01, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm confused do you have access to email right now or just in the previous days was it off? I'd much rather discuss this in email. Hobartimus (talk) 17:07, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Ok I see the problem was I missed your post on Talk:Hungary as there was another discussion going on there. I sent another email hopefully these internet problems will soon go away. Hobartimus (talk) 17:19, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
After you get your email capabilites back we can discuss everything at length but I just want to comment on quickly what you wrote on Talk:Hungary "There has been a lot of attention recently to the fact that some talk pages have far too many banners, and that the presence of all those banners is becoming a bit of a distraction. ... In fact, in the near future I'm going to try to persuade some of the other European nation WikiProjects whose banners don't include separate assessments to do the same thing." If in the future other countries' wikiprojects will be set up in a different way, maybe all of them will be under an European megaproject, then WikiProject Hungary will probably consider it as well, but right now we have the feeling that we will go with what's already worked namely simulate the setup of other existing WikiProjects. The Hungary project will use separate assasment depending on the importance of each topic within the scop (top, high, mid, low importance within the context of the project). I only moved the proposal because I thought you were too busy to respond to my email or were no longer intrested in the topic. Again ,more on this in email if you just reply to it I will know it's fixed. Hobartimus (talk) 21:36, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Central Asian banners

John I asked you before but when are you going to get around to sorting the banners for the central Asian work groups? Isn't central and west asia all that is left to do now with banners? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 00:39, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Any reason why you keep ignoring me whenever I ask a question about central asia? If you don't intend sorting it just tell me . Thanks ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 19:16, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Ah I see I had a feeling it had something to do with that. If I am not mistaken I can almost guarantee it was probably the guy who does a lot of work on Mongolian articles User:Latebird???. I've found him very rude and self important in the past -I bet he was probably moaning about "WikiProjects" existing rather than taskforces which "is so wrong" right??? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 19:27, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Well I think it is a good idea anyway to identify what is missing. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 20:34, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

I figured pages like WikiProject Togo/Missing settlements, WikiProject South America/Bolivia/Missing settlements etc would be useful for each project to work through also and would be linked as one of the main areas of focus for each wikiproject. I don't see anything more important than covering places on here ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 20:39, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes I can see why some of the lists might scare people a little, but I feel it is important to identify the gaps which many people don't seem to realise. I take it you mean in comma form e.g Acha, Achawida, Actam, Adat, etc rather thatn bullet points which can make it look bigger? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 20:44, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Of course there is the question of whether all places are notable enough for an article. I am a firm believer that most places have some sort of encyclopedic value. I think that articles like Kuchuma and Akwidaa etc are worthy additions. I remain optimistic that more information will gather on more places over time. This wiki Internet thing is still a baby and I am adament information will gradually become more liberal and developed over time. I don't see wikipedia disappearing any time soon, and I think it is good to strengthen the project in this way. Like yourself I feel it is important to plan and organize it the best we can ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 20:51, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Biography portal rotation suggestion

Please see here. Thanks. Carcharoth (talk) 04:25, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] IZAK rfcu

Is located here Bstone (talk) 03:04, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome to Indian Christianity WikiProject

Hello, Warlordjohncarter , We have noticed your contributions and interest to the articles related to Indian Christianity. We feel you might also be interested in joining our WikiProject on Indian Christianity Articles on Wikipedia. We welcome you to join this project! Happy Editing!

-Tinucherian (talk) 13:42, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
An Useful guide for you :-
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  • These are lots of things you can do to improve the quality of Wikipedia coverage of Indian Christianity and this project :-
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[edit] Wikipedia:The Problem with Projects

Hi, I have Wikified Wikipedia:The Problem with Projects but I may have mistakenly edited out some of your other recent comments by mistake. Please review and see what you wish to add in that got left out. Kindly avoid using "I" in a proposed policy essay. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 18:22, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Non-notable bible divisions

Hello. On a recent AfD, you commented that articles written on a chapter-by-chapter, verse-by-verse, or lection-by-lection, basis about the bible was not the best way to break up the subject matter.

I have proposed a guideline about this - at Wikipedia:Organisation of Bible articles, and I wonder if you would like to comment on it.

Clinkophonist (talk) 18:45, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProjects

I have the impression from your /Directory subpage that you would like to sort WikiProjects according to the 1.0 scheme. I think this would be a very natural thing to do, at least at the top level of the hierarchy, and am willing to help. I came here via the WikiProject categories, which are in a similar state of disarray. Geometry guy 21:25, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

I replied on my talk page. Geometry guy 22:13, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Capinota

I just came across Capinota and seeing a comment in the talk page and its editing history i think the article is the result of a school translation for learning english. I remember you said about people translate for wikipedia to practice their language learning, it looks like this is the case here. Shame it is unreferenced but I think its a good that these places are developing. Anyway I;ve now nearly added an infobox map to every in Guatemala, I;m doing a few for Bolivia now ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 21:31, 24 February 2008 (UTC).

[edit] ANI

I have reported your behaviour here. Please don't post on my talk page again. Johnbod (talk) 00:18, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Oceanography

I support your suggestion to broaden the scope of the currently stagnant oceanography wikiproject. Oceanography itself has a broad scope, but there are various aspects related to the oceans that wouldn't within under it; at least technically. Hopefully it'll help get the oceans stuff going, as I checked for interest in this sorely lack area before and there was some, but just as I was starting the project new work was laid on me and I had less time again. If in the future participation grows, perhaps then the oceanography could be separated into subprojects or descendant projects. Thanks for volunteering to help! Evolauxia (talk) 13:39, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] User:Dineshkannambadi

I had left a warning on this user's talk page for removing tags that I had left on an article evidenced here. The editor has replied by leaving the same warnings on my talk page when they are not relevant. Could you (in your capacity as an administrator) please delete the warnings off of my talk page, and advise the above editor that there is no validity in the warnings he has given back? Would appreciate it. Ncmvocalist (talk) 01:39, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree, and have told the editor that I won't place anymore templates on his talk page. It seems that I do not have a particularly good relationship with certain editors (all of whom are) from, or significantly contributing to the Kannada Wikiproject and wish to advance certain notions in the article Carnatic music. Being a member of the assessment team of WikiProject India, I am convinced that some of these compromise with NPOV, and therein lies much of the disagreement. Of course, there is an editor who blatantly refuses to comply with behavioural guidelines and policies, and as I've mentioned on an earlier occasion, that editor will be listed for Rfc at my earliest convenience. Ncmvocalist (talk) 09:19, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hi. About user:Ncmvocalist

Sir, If you were to look over my current talk page, you will notice that user:Ncmvocalist has earlier templated me twice for which I replied once. He has been throwing templates around freely for reasons other than the current issue and dates back to on going discussions on Carnatic music. Throwing templates on users talk pages without discussion is to me a form of harrassment. Please warn him not to put templates with out discussions.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 02:07, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I will surely keep your advice in mind.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 02:22, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

I didn't simply say that the website didn't have a bad reputation (!!) I took constructive steps to have the dispute resolved, by going to the reliable sources noticeboard and asking for an opinion independent of editors who have contributed to Carnatic music. There, I agreed and accepted that the website may not be reliable for that bit of information. However, an editor pointed out (with an example) of a reliable source that indicates that that bit of information could indeed be included in the article. Anyway, coming back to the issue: the templates aren't thrown around freely - they were carefully chosen to aptly identify what was 'wrong'. It wasn't intended as a form of harassment (if it qualifies as one). Ncmvocalist (talk) 08:35, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Propsal: Make WikiProject Sherlock Holmes a task force of WikiProject Fictional series

As you are the most active editor of that WikiProject, I was wondering if you think that a move to Wikipedia:WikiProject Fictional series/Sherlock Holmes would be too outrageous? That way it won't have to stand on its own. - LA @ 09:38, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Would you be willing to work with me, tagging all WikiProject which would benefit as a task force under WikiProject Fictional series? I have a starter list of fictional series as a subpage of the project here. I would be willing to make a template to tag the other projects' talk pages with to make things easier. It could create a temporary category for these projects to go into. We would have to start a dispute page in case of outrage by other projects' participants. Have anything else to add? - LA @ 15:14, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Tag WikiProjects with the following template.
{{Wikipedia:WikiProject Fictional series/merge}}
- LA @ 15:31, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
Let's stay with multimedia series for now. A lot of series qualify for that. I have a few more series in mind to add to the list, some may not currently have projects, but you never know. The template link is fixed, and it is based on other merge templates. - LA @ 15:39, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
What if I word it as an invitation..."WikiProject X has been invited to become a task force..."? - LA @ 16:03, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
It would be the Mortal Kombat task force with a video games department. :) - LA @ 16:23, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Urgent admin intervention needed at the Hummus article

Hi John: My attention was drawn to the Talk:Hummus page, see Talk:Hummus#Hebrew/jewish/Israeli references and Talk:Hummus#RfC where some users are deploying the worst kind of blatant antisemitic and Anti-Zionist vitriol in violation of WP:HATE and WP:CIVIL, over a minor food article, yet, unbelievable. There are comments there that should be deleted on sight as well. Please check out that page and the violating editors. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 11:07, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

I would block myself under analogous circumstances. I'm not doing so because my perception is that a block by someone this user might perceive as biased would not be in Wikipedia's best interests and might not end up communicating the intended message. The user has 2 blocks in the history, one for 24 and one for 31 hours, so I would block for somewhere between 48 hours and a week. Best, --Shirahadasha (talk) 14:47, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you:)

Thanks for the barnstar. I feel very honoured to be awarded by a great editor like you, John. Thanks again, Shahid • Talk2me 17:10, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi John...
You said something so precise, "you're tired of that article right now, and might want to take a break from it"... :)
I am also quite busy in real life (as you can see through my contributions page), so plans of a new FAC will have to wait a bit. Thanks for the suggestion though. That's very encouraging. Regards, Shahid • Talk2me 04:27, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia/Requests for comment/IZAK2

The Hebrew phrases at the end of my "outside view" comment are all allusions to a section of the Talmud, "Ethics of the Fathers" Chapter 4, paragraph 1, which can be found at e.g. here. Best, --Shirahadasha (talk) 19:26, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

I figured they were something along those lines. Thanks for the clarification, though. John Carter (talk) 19:29, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] User:Sarvagnya

I had left the above editor yet another warning for blanking material here for removing the templates here, but as can be seen in the first diff, he removed the warning, erroneously labelling it as trolling. He has then continued blanking templates as can be seen here. In addition to this edit-warring, this editor has resorted to harassment by reverting edits on my own talk page (which do not concern him at all). I really am at a loss to understand how much more disruptive editing would need to be tolerated by Wikipedia, before this is stopped (via a block/ban). Ncmvocalist (talk) 01:55, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Indonesian occupation of East Timor (1975-1999)

As the only other member of the East Timor WikiProject, I salute you.

There is a brouhaha stirring about this article, which I'm trying to get into FA shape. Charges of POV writing and conflict of interest have been made (and I'm trying to address them). I wonder if perhaps you'd have any thoughts on these discussions?

In a nutshell: The article was evaluated by Roger Davies as GA, then challenged vociferously by Gnangarra. S/he claimed that the discussion of US and Australian support for Indonesia is POV. (This comes amid a variety of other complaints, many of which I really don't understand. Apparently there have been a number of confusions on Gnangarra's part about the pagination of the CAVR report; you'll see what I mean if/when you read the talk page.)

I've trimmed the section on international responses to the occupation, but now Gnangarra is (so far as I can tell) requesting that the entire section be eliminated. I'm very much willing to work on this situation to reach an NPOV article, but I'm finding it difficult to figure out how to proceed.

The COI claim stems from the fact that I've been involved with the East Timor Action Network in the US for many years – and in 1999, the International Federation for East Timor's Observer Project. While I recognize that this presents a possible COI, I don't feel it should exclude me from working on this article, and I have made extraordinary fastidious efforts to remain NPOV at all times (and the article contains nearly 200 citations to reliable sources). (I even read and cited Ali Alatas's book, for crying out loud, heh.)

Any comments or feedback you'd care to offer would be appreciated. – Scartol • Tok 02:39, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Understood. Rest well and I look forward to your thoughts whenever you can offer them. (As for the project – I must say that after this brouaha, I might have a hard time advertising for it!) – Scartol • Tok 02:42, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] V M Nonet

Next time you decide to get down to revert others and slap tags on an article, make sure you know enough about the subject to be able to atleast objectively evaluate sources. I know perfectly well what a RS source is and I dont need lessons from you or your friend who, when I last saw, was championing an utter screed of carnatic.net as RS. So save me your puffery and dont come to my page with unsolicited advice. If you have anything to say about the article, take it to the article's talk page. and just fyi, Dinesh is an editor who has authored a dozen FAs and probably hundreds of articles and if he removed the tag, that should count for something.. shouldnt it? It doesnt behove an admin like you to get into knee jerk revert wars like this especially when you know squat about the subject. Sarvagnya 03:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

I second User:Sarvagnya here. You and your friend User:Ncmvocalist need to know that in case a tag is disputed, the onus is on the person who has put the tag, to explain the reason on why the tag was placed. Any editor is free to remove the tag if he/she feels that sufficient explanation has not been provided on why the tags were placed. And stop behaving like a teacher and going around putting advices in talk pages of people who have been in Wikipedia for long. They are very much aware of the policies and need not be spoon-fed. By the way, how did you decide that User:Ncmvocalist was correct in putting those tags, when you hardly know anything about the article. Doesn't this show bias on your part? Thanks -- ¿Amar៛Talk to me/My edits 06:41, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
I dont need your advice. May be you should stop running to help people who have content disputes with certain users whom you hate and offer them free advice. If I were in your place, I would have asked User:Ncmvocalist to discuss the matter on the talk page and not join him to start reverting the article, especially when I am claiming that I am not good at that subject. For example, why did you have to write this essay here? How do you know that User:Ncmvocalist was acting on good faith when he put those tags and how do you know that the reason that you have given in the diff was the exact reason why Ncmvoc put those tags? It was Ncmvoc who put those tags, and hence he should explain the reason, not you... And dont throw the AGF card on me. All this started, because you assumed AGF with User:Ncmvocalist, without assuming AGF with User:Sarvagnya and others involved. -- ¿Amar៛Talk to me/My edits 15:13, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Saw, your latest comments just now. I will act in good faith and I expect the same. Lot has been said till now. I will confine my discussions to the article in question. Thanks -- ¿Amar៛Talk to me/My edits 15:15, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
"It's useful to indicate that the author is knowledgable about the subject. However, that doesn't establish that the article referenced itself is necessarily reliable, as it would be far from unique for a reputable scholar to advance one or more fringe theories, and for others to, perhaps mistakenly, then use those comments as the basis for making inaccurate claims here." John, what you have written here is more of a speculation. In the remote case, that it is true, it would take only an un-biased scholar well versed on the subject to be able to prove that a particular person has published a fringe theory in a particular article and should hence be ignored. This argument could essentially be extrapolated to any article which cites scholarly sources. Unless, there are glaring mistakes which some one can point out with reputable contrarian evidences, we have no option but to cite scholarly sources in articles, as they exist. Thanks -- ¿Amar៛Talk to me/My edits 16:24, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
I dont want to continue harbouring ill-feelings. But what does piss me off is the attitude of people trying to add tags and reverting without providing explanations on why they are doing it (when asked for). And people advicing others on matters that they themselves have been guilty of violating in the past. Thanks for advicing the person in question here. -- ¿Amar៛Talk to me/My edits 16:51, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The WikiProject Barnstar

The WikiProject Barnstar
For your impressive collaborative work across many WikiProjects. Cirt (talk) 19:21, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Measure up to it? Are you kidding? If ever there was a barnstar specifically tailored to your efforts on this project... Cirt (talk) 19:23, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Project name

Yes, the scope is huge...but doable. As long as the task forces are maintained by the various people within them, we should be okay no matter how many there are. Also, we will have to convince the WikiProject council to put up a link to this project's Task force proposal page so we don't have to crawl through the main one every day looking for fictional series to add. I am working on the article talk page template every now and again. I should have it done by the end of next week. I am still trying to figure out a few things that may or may not need to be on it. I am basically using the films template as a base. Our current template may not do the whole job. As long as we build slowly, the amount of task forces will not overwhelm us. - LA @ 15:15, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Urgent

Please see my talk page for the recent onslaught of an assumption of bad faith to try to speedy delete articles I have contributed towards, or that affect the Carnatic music article that I have dedicated a much more significant amount of time than any of the other active editors of today. I have given a response here. If you can take any quicker action in undoing this delete, this would be appreciated. Ncmvocalist (talk) 15:16, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Dedicated time to do what, write your own version of articles without any citations and references? Thats called POV pushing and not good articleship. Learn to write well-cited articles so that you dont end up in mess like this. -- ¿Amar៛Talk to me/My edits 15:56, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
As a GA reviewer, there is no justification for claiming that I need to learn to write well-cited articles. My priorities are none of your business, as is when I finish writing an article to my satisfaction. Many administrators who have no knowledge on these particular topics are able to assert that the topic of these articles are notable.
John, I have already left an ANI about this editor, but he has risen from simply incivility and an assumption of bad faith, to attacks and harassment. Now it's showing on your page too...? Ncmvocalist (talk) 16:19, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Dont go around brandishing "I am GA reviewer", "I am a lead assessor" everywhere you go. That does not give you a badge to malign everyone and you are no better than any editor around. If you really knew anything about assessment, you would know what kinda article your Nityashree is. And since when did tagging bad articles and unsourced images, become bad acts. If you knew how to write well-cited articles and upload properly sourced images, we wouldn't have been having this discussion here. -- ¿Amar៛Talk to me/My edits 16:30, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Oh enough with such nonsense. Tagging bad articles is fine, but deliberately tagging all articles that you come into contact with that are created by me, or I have contributed towards, is purely hiding behind the rules. I wonder what gave you the idea I was a better editor.... :) A GA reviewer isn't necessarily a better editor, however, is certainly knowledgable in knowing the principles of a good article. So it is you who is assuming bad faith (yet again) in automatically thinking that incomplete articles written by me are a result of a lack of knowledge, when really, this is not the case. In the words you chose to use on me, when you should've used them on yourself: "take your rubbish arguments elsewhere". Ncmvocalist (talk) 17:01, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Um, guys, I kind of have to agree with at least four of the last five words above (not necessarily "rubbish"). I'm not really sure it really accomplishes anything for you to have an argument here, y'know? Trust me, I've got both your pages watchlisted and I can see the recent, um, "developments" there when I check my watchlist, but it can get kind of distracting when you "discuss" things on my talk page. John Carter (talk) 17:08, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] NIN Wikiproject

Thanks so much for replacing the archaic DIY assessment table with the automatic one. Unfortunately, you edit made the page go a little crazy (take a look). I'm not exactly sure what you did or how to rectify it, so I was hoping you could take a look and fix things. Thanks again! Drewcifer (talk) 02:08, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Odd. Maybe we're not seeing the same thing. Before your edit, the assessment box fit snuggly to the right of the Members/Open tasks boxes. But now it's on its own line, separate from the other two. Are you seeing the same thing? Drewcifer (talk) 02:19, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] retirement.

the reason is now on my user page, and I also posted it to AN/I. In order to avoid any NPA, I'll jsut say read it at AN/I. ThuranX (talk) 05:07, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Hello John Carter. Thanks for your support at the Military history elections. With your aid I was able to commision this ship to help plunder the coast of Military history for the third time. Na, just kidding. If you ever require any astance all you have to do is ask and you will see my ship on the horizon. Kyriakos (talk) 13:23, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you



Milhist Coordinator elections
Thank you very much for your support in the recent Military history Wikiproject elections. I went into it expecting to just keep my seat and was astonished to end up with the lead role. I anticipate a rather busy six months :) --ROGER DAVIES talk 13:25, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Haut-Koeningsbourg castle, Alsace.

[edit] Fictional series scope

We should discuss this on the talk page of the project itself. Also, if you want to do a project box for us, that would be great. I was trying to modify the WikiProject films one. I could e-mail you what I have so you can modify it locally. - LA @ 13:28, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks



Milhist Coordinator election
Thank you very much for your support in the recent Military history Wikiproject election. I'm more than happy to serve the project for another six months! --Eurocopter (talk) 15:26, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Russian-Circassian War

[edit] Amen

Hi John, I really did appreciate your comments on the talk page after I enacted an RFC there. However as of late a certain individual who apparently has gained Admin status has over-stepped his bounds and blocked me from editing the page simply because I removed a erroneous statement made about Amen of which he later removed this entire section. I'm not quite sure what action I should take concerning this. Any assistance you can offer will be greatly appreciated. Nuwaubian Hotep (talk) 18:33, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

This statement was added to the Amen page

Because of homophonic resemblance and geographic proximity there is a belief that the Hebrew word Amen is in some way related to the Egyptian deity Amun. Although this etymological theory is considered untenable by academic scholars [citation needed], it has persisted and is widely repeated on the internet and in print.

Of which I removed. That apparently prompted Gareth Hughes to block the page for a week.

Here's the comment He left on the discussion tab.

It is unacceptable to present a fringe theory that is popularised on the Internet and by small quasi-religious groups as anything more than it is. Mainstream universities are not in the habit of keeping secrets, but work on the principle of open discussion and criticism. Lukynumbers has accused others of blocking his/her ideas for religious reasons, whereas this user's incessant quotation of the Bible and sermonising about the Exodus and freedom. All the evidence is circumstantial, and its presentation is decidedly amateurish. I've been around Wikipedia long enough to smell bunk a mile of. I have presented my arguments against this in a concise and measured fashion, asking for specific information, and disclosing a background in Semitic-language research. If Luckynumbers had any real qualification or training in this area, or he/she had any depth of knowledge, it should have been presented long before now. However, this user has a couple of loosely knitted arguments that have been repeated over and over again throughout this page. Unless, Luckynumbers engages directly with these criticisms, it is time to say enough soap-boxing. If other users feel that a breather is needed, I am happy to give temporary protection to the article page. The community has the right to impose restrictions who are considered to be working to the detriment of the project. Luckynumbers is expected to work with the community, not insult them. I have argued strongly against this user's ideas, rather than his/her person. If this user refuses to work with others, or becomes offensive again, he/she will be blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours. I feel we have shown sufficient patience and tolerance here, whereas this user has been aggressive in pushing one idea. I expect Luckynumber's next few edits to be constructive and sensitive to other's concerns now. Blocking users is not a form of sensitive, but a response to the abuse of the wide freedoms that Wikipedia grants to all comers. This is the limit: work with us, or we get a day's holiday from you. — Gareth Hughes (talk) 12:34, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Further to this, an edit by Nuwaubian Hotep (talk · contribs) pushing this issue again has caused me to protect the page for a period of a week. During that period, administrators may make changes to the article that are felt necessary. If those working on the article wish a change to made they should request it here, on the article's talk page. Text postulating a link between amen and Amun will only be added if agreed by consensus on this page. If, after the page protection expires, this information is inserted without consensus, the page may be protected again and the user concerned may have their account temporarily blocked. The bottom line is always: talk and find agreement and the text goes in, insist on adding it and your right to edit is curtailed. It's simple and sensible. — Gareth Hughes (talk) 17:28, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Apparently the block is universal and for one week, however clearly he's operating with a bias, unscientific, religious agenda (good or bad) and should probably not have Admin rights to this page although I do agree with some of his precepts. My edits were aligned with his as he removed the entire section that included the erroneous "internet theory" statement of which I removed. I did not contribute in anyway to that section. I'm not sure what action is to be taken, I just wanted to raise a flag. Again, any assistance you can offer will be greatly appreciated. Nuwaubian Hotep (talk) 18:53, 29 February 2008 (UTC)


The two users involved have taken the argument to ad hominem attacks against me, accusing me of religious bias. Nuwaubian Hotep (talk · contribs) has a history of working outside of consensus. The theory of linking 'amen' with 'Amun' is nowhere proven, and, if presented in the article, it should be clear that this is a fringe theory based on circumstantial evidence. Those pushing this theory are wanting the article to affirm a greater link than the evidence or mainstream academia (of which I am a part) support. — Gareth Hughes (talk) 20:26, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bald is back

Hi I'm back and already I have had somebody complaining at me because "a gap was too big. PLease can you stop creating articles with a gap". I just threw it away, its ridiculous. Any check out the pictures on Collonges-au-Mont-d'Or and Saint-Sandoux -the second one is beautiful -it would look great in a bible I think. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 21:40, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] expanding Muslim military history task force

I have been reelected coordinator and brought up the old discussion about expanding Muslim military history to the present day. This has been an issue raised by Muslim editors when the task force was founded. It would be great if you could help expanding the articles that present what makes Islams treatment of war effect especially the Muslim warfare. I have been reading a bit on the topic and can help you with advice, but feel myself not confident enough with my limited knowledge. Wandalstouring (talk) 12:38, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] A rather crude present from Baldy

The Crap toleration barnstar
For your outstanding ability to deal with the crap that you encounter and staminar at using the pooper scooper to make wikipedia a better place. How you tolerate such a strong exposure to ammonia (which is potentially lethal) I don't know but the Bald One is proud of your resistance to it. Keep up the strong resistence to it and in making the world a cleaner place!! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:48, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

(Sorry I couldn't help it). But you do deal with a lot of difficulty I have noticed and thought there should be some sort of award to compliment this. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:52, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Portal:Indian Christianity Launched

We are happy to announce the launch of Portal:Indian Christianity by Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian Christianity , a work force of Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity and Wikipedia:WikiProject India. Please share your comments and suggestions. - Tinucherian (talk) 17:18, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Virtual 3D maps

I take it you were less than impressed with your award? Check out this. Were you aware you can now install download a virtual earth from microsoft?. Basically it is a satellite map which is now in 3D (this is what I have visualized for years but wasn't aware it existed yet. Anywhere on the planet you can zoom in and see places in 3D - I;ve just been wandering the streets of Lhasa and seeing the potala in 3D. Its not perfected yet and detail will improve over time but this is amazing. Thnkgs are really starting to happen that we envisaged as children happening in the 21st century. This is why I do so much work on geo articles as I;m certain soon enough wikipedia will have 3d maps of places and people can browse towns and cities through the streets, select a building and the relevant article in cities like NYC and Singapore etc anywhere in the world. Amazing isn't it. It only takes about 10-15 minutes to install. I'm sure soon enough this can be done for wikipedia and we can view articles on towns and monuments, bridges, rivers etc and see them in 3d on a map. This ia fantastic development ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:27, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Hello are you there? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:59, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes I know how demoralising such editors are and I admire how you deal with them- hence the light hearted award which in all honestly is meant very seriously. Its off-putting to say the least. Anyway taking note what you said about places in Africa I feel the best thing I can do is the build up some sort of infrastructure on places in vastly underdeveloped areas such as Africa, Latin America and South-east Asia and hope they can develop in the future. I;ve begun drawing up a list of missing towns from Eritrea, articles include Abaredda, Abacheri, and Mogolo. The uneveness is really bad if you think geographically which I do but the first step to addressing this is at least to have knoweldge of the existence of these places and their whereabouts. Apparently there is 9,000 odd places in Eritrea alone, I bet most people don't even know the capital ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 18:54, 2 March 2008 (UTC)


Lists are good particularly if they set out what needs to be done and attract people to a topic. Hopefully more editors will concentrate on adding places which is one of the biggest areas of wikipedia that needs development. If you look at the new pages now you;ll see that there are two editors adding exactly the sort of new articles I linke to see. One adding place sin Madagascar, another Paraguay. What we need is several hundred editors like this and some form of bot to generate places using google coordinates en masse. I;m sure there is no reason why any place couldn't have some form of coverage eventually, the encyclopedia has a much stronger foundation if these pages are set up. I;'v ebeen amazed at stubs I;ve started on places before where I thought there would be little info avialable at present and within weeks they had expanded considerably beyond what I had envisaged by a native user who added references from a national source. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 19:32, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hello, John Carter

Hello. I know that The Random Button should be userfied but NOT The I'm Proud to be a Wikipedian Essay Contest. These are my arguments below:

Keep as it is Listen, the winner is selected by the users of wikipedia and NOT by me. It belongs on wikipedia namespace. Wikipedians vote on the winner. As I said, try to think of it as Wikipedian Idol. It isn't project space or else it would be Wikipedia:WikiProject I'm Proud to be a Wikipedian. You are right that I did create this in goo faith, but I created it not for me, but for every single user of wikipedia. This is a chance for wikipedians to be recongnized. If they are a candidate to be an administrator, you would most likely have a better chance of becoming one if they won or were runner up on this contest. This does belong on wikipedia namespace an is why I want to keep it on wikipedia namespace and not my userpage, because once again, I don't own it the users of wikipedia own it. Think of it as public property like a park. It belongs to everybody. It is the same thing with this. This page belongs to every single wikipedian so they can get recongnized. I believe I have proved my point. Signed with respect, Nothing444 19:28, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Essay Contest

The Wikipedia Signpost isn't really contributing to the encyclopedia , but we still have it. Signed with respect, Nothing444 19:48, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Wikipedia Essay Contest

I am so sorry John Carter. I didn't know that was canvassing. I don't mean to promote unhealthy competition either. We still have that thing on Wikipedia:Awards that is a contest to see who the best editor on wikipedia is. We could have the wikipedia essay contest anually or even monthly so everyone will have a chance. Signed with respect,Nothing444 20:24, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Essay Contest

Hello, Warlordjohncarter. You have new messages at Nothing444's talk page.
You may remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} template.
At least give it a try, you might even like the outcome :) Signed with respect,Nothing444 20:36, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Essay Contest

The wikipedia cup is what I was referring to, you are correct. Okay, how about I put it in userspace, and try it out for the first time, and if the outcome is good, it becomes in wikipedia namespace?--Signed with respect,Nothing444 20:38, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Signpost it is

Thanks so much for helping me, John Carter. I will have it at the signpost, (or at least persuae them to get it in :)). Signed with respect,Nothing444 20:50, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Need a help for Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian Christianity

Hi John , we need a help on fixing the article assessment stats for the project. Only 266 of 530 articles in Category:Indian Christianity work group articles are shown in Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian Christianity/Assessment , even after last bot run. The unaccessed are not displayed and the importance categorization is also not Shown. Kindly help to fix this - Tinucherian (talk) 02:26, 27 February 2008 (UTC)


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It is still not working.:( Only quality class is shown and not importance scale in Wikipedia:WikiProject_Indian_Christianity - Tinucherian (talk) 02:46, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Paraguay

See Horqueta. New article, new map, new images. Its happening gradually! Also Coronel Oviedo. Few people know anything about Paraguay do they? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 21:03, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

What happened to angola . I tried tagging Talk:Chibabo, Angola ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 23:12, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the advice, John Carter. Signed with respect, Nothing444 22:08, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia Essay Contest

Are you going to participate in it? If so I would like to do an interview for the signpost. The Questions are:

  • How long do you plan to make it?
  • When do you plan to finish it?
  • Are you having trouble writing it?
  • In one sentence, tell us why you are proud to be a wikipedian.

Signed with respect, Nothing444 22:17, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vaishanavism wikiproject img suggestions

the Vaishnava tilak, compare with tilaks here

Vishnu, the supreme diety in Vaishanavas

--Redtigerxyz (talk) 10:48, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

  • Ridtigerxyz. Thank you for contributing the above images. Ism schism (talk) 19:17, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for Vaishanavism wikiproject.--Redtigerxyz (talk) 11:11, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
I agree. Thank you John Carter. Ism schism (talk) 13:02, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ocean project

whatever happened to it? I think there is a very major issue with ocean/sea boundaries that repeats itself like clockwork if the project never came to anything - there needs to be something that polices the geographically challenged eds who forever fight over where things start and end SatuSuro 11:11, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Well someone needs to be very very very strict about debates about where oceans/seas start and find some very good base to the argument as every kid with a 1950's school atlas have never had their day saying their bit and will want to claim things you would never imagine - and it will need some very clear guidelines on that or you are like honey to the flies forever (or something like that)  :( it makes me shudder just to think what the arguments about whether the southern ocean exists or not could re-emerge - so dont say i didnt warn ya! SatuSuro 14:15, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rollback

What is the Rollback feature and how does it work? Blueboar (talk) 14:16, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Cool... sure, I would love to have access to that feature. Thanks. Blueboar (talk) 14:25, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Thank you. Blueboar (talk) 14:39, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Request for assistance

John, could you take a look at the discussion at: User_talk:MisterBee1966#List_of_what_needs_to_be_done_to_fix_this, and probably the preceding two sections? We need an admin to fix the mess as we need to move over other subpages and delete some cross-namespace redirects that were created due to a misunderstanding. I think all involved are now in agreement with me as to the proper way to have this set up. Thanks. Let me know if you have any questions as to exactly what we need done.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 16:22, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXIV (February 2008)

The February 2008 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.
This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 08:25, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Take a look at this user

John, I was reviewing the edits on Wikipedia:WikiProject_Ancient_European_history and noticed this new editor: User:DangerTM. This user's first post was to his talk page at 05:12, 4 March 2008 - in which he says he has no idea what he is doing and will need lots of help. At 06:33 he joins WP:European history and at 06:36, 4 March 2008 he posts this, his 8th post of his existence (and that discussion is directed to the Ancient Europe Projects's talk page, rather than European history. I note that at 11:08, 2 March 2008 (UTC), Tom.mevlie had suggested merging these projects. DangerTM also makes several errors in naming the target and even starts discussions at Talk:WikiProject_European_history and Talk:WikiProject_Ancient_European_history, interestingly, similar errors were made in the original naming of the Ancient history Project by Tom Melvie (who's last post was at 08:33, 3 March 2008). Think the "TM" could be yet another "Tom Melvie"? I'm tagging both those talk pages for CSD as they don't have a main page and are in article talk space to boot. I'm not sure if it's appropriate to add a suspected sock to someone else's listing or if I need to create a new listing - any thoughts?--Doug.(talk • contribs) 18:51, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

You could certainly add the {{Sockpuppet|1=Tom.mevlie|Tom.mevlie}} to the new user's user page, and note to User:Pax:Vobiscum that the new user shares at least a few of the puppeteer's typological quirks, including not apparently being able to capitalize the word "I" any better than Tom or his other socks do, and that they've both joined the Novels and International Relations projects and at least indicated an interest in Led Zeppelin, with the later name joining the project. John Carter (talk) 19:06, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lucia Brocadelli of Narni

Dear John, my name is Vincas and I see that on 15 April 2007 you were the author of Blessed Lucy's biography which was mainly based, it seems, on *Blessed Lucy of Narni. It needs a number of corrections - or even a complete revision, which I myself, with my limited English, feel unable to provide. I added some new references and lifted the last paragraph from the same source but I feel very hesitant to continue.

Duke Ercole never wanted to build a convent in NARNI, he did not "kidnapp" her, there was no bloodshed involved... etc... etc —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vincas (talk • contribs) 17:00, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

YOU RESPONDED: All the information in the article was previously added by me on the basis of it being included in one of the four references I had listed. If you are aware of contrary information, probably the best thing to do would be to indicated exactly which pieces of data you dispute based on which sources on the article's talk page, and then we can go over how to phrase the content accordingly. John Carter (talk) 18:00, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

HERE IT IS (looks so simple but it took me almost a day!):

1. "Later, Lucia left for the desert to become an anchorite. That was enough for Pietro. He had her returned to his home".

  • There was no desert and Pietro did not have her returned. Lucia one evening went to a Franciscan monastery nearby (un eremo dei frati francescani), found it closed and early in the morning returned home, claiming that she was led back by two saints. (Gino Cotini describes this event in much detail).

2. "When Easter [1494 March 30] arrived, Lucia and Pietro agreed that she wasn't really suited for marriage, and he released her. Lucia then returned to her mother's house and became a Dominican tertiary".

  • Pietro did neither agree nor did he release her - Lucia escaped to her mother's house secretly. Fullerton writes: "Lucia remained in her mother's house for a year; during which time she had to endure much from the indignation of her husband, who expressed his own disapproval of her step in a very summary way, by burning down the monastery of the prior who had given her the [Dominican] habit".

3. "Shortly thereafter, she went to Viterbo and joined a group of Third order Dominican tertiaries... She was reported to have received stigmata, which she did her best to hide, and was frequently in spiritual ecstasy".

  • Not "shortly thereafter" but the next year (1495) she went to Rome and in the beginning of 1496 was sent to Viterbo where on 1496 February 25 she received the Stigmata.

4?.("The bishop would not make a decision on Lucia, and called in the local inquisition. They referred the case directly to the Pope. He spoke with her and, with the assistance of Columba of Rieti, ultimately decided in her favor, telling her to go home and pray for him".

  • The sources disagree. But it seems that she neither ever went again to Rome nor ever spoke with the Pope.)

5. "When Lucy returned to the convent in Viterbo, she found that the Duke of Ferrara, Ercole d'Este I, had determined to build a convent in Narni and that, having heard of her, he determined that she would be its prioress. Lucia... agreed to go..."

  • In summer of 1497 Duke of Ferrara invited Lucy to come to Ferrara promising to build her a monastery there. Lucy herself, the Domincan Order and the Pope agreed immediately - the municipal councel of Viterbo objected.

6. "Lucia's departure precipitated a battle between Narni and Viterbo which would continue for two years. Viterbo wanted to keep the famous mystic for themselves, and the duke wanted her in Narni. The duke sent his troops to Viterbo to take her by force. After much bloodshed and loss of life, he did so, and she was brought to Narni."

  • The two-year "battle" was between Viterbo and Ferrara. There was much correspondence, embarassement and wasted money but no bloodshed or loss of life. Finally Lucia escaped from Viterbo secretly and was solemnly received in Ferrara on 1499 May 7.

7. "The duke sent his daughter-in-law, Lucrezia Borgia, to help attract new postulants to the new convent".

  • Lucrezia Borgia arrived in Ferrara three years later, on 1502 February 2. She was never sent anywhere. True - the Duke had asked her to bring some candidates from Rome for Lucy's convent - which she did. This I found described in Edmund Gardner's Dukes and Poets in Ferrara, 1968. Vincas (talk) 15:59, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

YOU RESPONDED: Are you saying all the information you added was based on that single source? I need to know this because no information can be added without having at least a listed reference. John Carter (talk) 16:05, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

NO - all the information was based on three sources - the biography by Georgiana Fullerton (I am even putting her words in #2 in quotation marks), the biography by Gino Cotini ("un eremo dei frati francescani" in #1 are his words) and the book of Edmund Gardner. The Gardener's book I had from a library but the first two sources you can see in the "References" of the Wikipedia article. Vincas (talk) 17:21, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

YOU WROTE ME: I'm going to assume your sources are better than mine and try to adjust the content accordingly. Unfortunately I'm a bit pressed for time today, but will try tomorrow. John Carter (talk) 17:06, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I am sure you did not forget it. Maybe today? Vincas (talk) 18:17, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Actually, I did. Sorry about that. I have made most of the changes you requested. Your quote above does not regarding Lucrezia doesn't specifically indicate that she wasn't "sent" by her father there, so I have kept that much intact. However, if you could indicate specifically which sources you used to verify the information you gave me above, so that I can place additional citation templates for that information as per guidelines, I would be very appreciative. John Carter (talk) 18:49, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. Still I thought my main contribution was that Duke Ercole NEVER wanted to build a convent in Narni. That he never wanted Lucy in NARNI and that the two-year-conflict was betwen Viterbo and FERRARA; two cities 230 miles apart (while there are only 30 miles between Narni and Viterbo; both are only about 50 miles from Rome). A fact already well verified in the both sources I mentioned... Vincas (talk) 14:27, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I don't know anything about Italian geography, so I didn't know how distant the two places are, and thought they might be neighbors or something. Thanks for the clarification, I'll change it as indicated. However, if you were to want to add citations to the article regarding which statements were specifically sourced where, that'd help a lot. I've read elsewhere that people think the length is good enough for GA status, but that it would need additional in-text citiations to get there. If you can give me any ideas where to put citations for the information you've given, that'd help a lot. John Carter (talk) 14:33, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
You should know that you are more than free to add any additional content which you deem important enough for inclusion, provided that content can be sourced. In all honesty, I think at this point you probably know the subject a lot better than I do. If there is any additional information you think should be included, please feel free to do so, preferably with citations added. If for whatever reason you don't feel comfortable about doing so, contact me and I'll see what I can do. Thanks. John Carter (talk) 16:35, 22 February 2008 (UTC)


I CERTAINLY wanted and began looking for CITATIONS to the article, regarding which statements were specifically sourced where, but found that this would take me much more time than I presently have. After spending quite a while I decided to do it in the future and do it gradually, a little section at time.

So right now I decided only to go lightly over present text and to iron out some minor details so it would be ready to accept the future improvements. And then... when I came to Ferrara-Viterbo conflict I began reading Cotini. And suddenly discovered some new and important details which I had missed before. And which would require not just "ironing out" but a new text.
For example, where we now have "The Duke petitioned the local bishop... and the bishop sent six nuns"... Cotini writes: " In 1503, the 26th March, the POPE Alexander VI sent a breve apostolico ordering to send 12 sisters from the Second Dominican Order in Ferrara to" Lucy's monastery. The number of sisters there was increased from 72 to 84. (And I somehow had kept the impression that there never was more than about 40).
And so on. The new prioress - Sister Maria da Parma - was elected 2 September 1503 but nothing much happened until Duke Ercole died on 24 January 1505. Until Lucia was 28 years old... etc etc
Will try to incorporate all this gradually. For now I am only sending my revision up to the City Conflict. (Concerning the words: "The duke sent his future daughter-in-law" I reordered "Dukes and Poets in Ferrara" from the library again.) Vincas (talk) 15:35, 23 February 2008 (UTC)


THIS TIME I am only responding to your request of 18:49, 20 February 2008, concerning my # 7 remark about Lucrezia Borgia "not being sent". You were asking me to "indicate specifically which sources I used to verify the information I gave you , so that you can place additional citation templates for that information". The whole quite entertaining story about Lucrezia "persuading" the Viterbo nuns to come to Rome by getting her father to threaten them with excommunication (p.402) - and many other delightful things which happened in Rome and Ferrara between September 1501 and February 1502 - can be found in "Dukes and Poets in Ferrara" by Edmund Gardner, pp.380-423.

Kindly correct my new text adding this template. All other (minor) changes are from Cotini and Fullerton. I hope to continue. Vincas (talk) 03:36, 28 February 2008 (UTC)


YOU PROBABLY missed this my request of 28 February. So I entered the source I had mentioned among the references and also a new reference relating to Lucia's active participation in ("subversive") Savonarolan activities. Vincas (talk) 00:19, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

AS YOU CAN SEE somebody just deleted my both citations as "Speculative and uncited"... Tamar Herzig - as I am just finding out - probably knows more about Lucia Brocadelli than any other person alive... Vincas (talk) 00:42, 5 March 2008 (UTC)


YOU WROTE ME two weeks ago: "If there is any additional information you think should be included, please feel free to do so, preferably with citations added. If for whatever reason you don't feel comfortable about doing so, contact me and I'll see what I can do. Thanks. John Carter (talk) 16:35, 22 February 2008 (UTC)"

Apparently I lost all contact with you since... Of course, I am very impressed how busy you are and there was nothing of great importance. Still I would appreciate your check and correction of English wording of what I did - this is my first attempt. I feel I have done all I could do for this subject at the present moment - but I hope to continue later, Vincas (talk) 02:05, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Lucia Brocadelli of Narni

YOU WROTE ME two weeks ago: "If there is any additional information you think should be included, please feel free to do so, preferably with citations added. If for whatever reason you don't feel comfortable about doing so, contact me and I'll see what I can do. Thanks. John Carter (talk) 16:35, 22 February 2008 (UTC)"

Apparently I lost all contact with you since... Of course, I am very impressed how busy you are and there was nothing of great importance. Still I would appreciate your check and correction of English wording of what I did - this is my first attempt. I feel I have done all I could do for this subject at the present moment - but I hope to continue later. Vincas (talk) 02:20, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Eritrea

Hi John I've got all the districts of Eritrea up an running, I created the nav box and blue linked them earlier. Adi Tekelezan District is one of the poorest areas on the planet, I think Eritrea as a country is too. It is either between Eritrea and Chad I think. Next stage will be to start the district capitals and work around that. If you see Mogolo District you;ll see that i have found a way to map out settlements in the area and begin building the content. I created a district map for Are'eta District -I'll see if I can work out the others later. I've also found this at flickr and will request permission to use its 450 odd images of Eritrea for wikipedia, hopefully they'll comply. We already have one agreement with images of places like Barentu District but it would be great to obtain as many as we possibly can ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 13:44, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

This is great! In starting Adendema I was curious what the boundary marked Gash-Setit was on the map so I started it. Luckily I managed to find an adobe essay on it and something in an e-book on refugees on the eritrean-ethiopian border and took some notes. Its amazing how much you can blag info and muster all you can. There's a great deal more that could be written about this and I am certain there is hundres of missing articles like this within the country but gaining access to books on it isn't easy. Its a start though isn't it. I;ve surprised myself that in starting the towns and villages how the picture begins to take shape even if it is basic at present ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:00, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

I know, but so much needs doing with stub building I rarely have the chance to write fuller articles like so. I think it is important to lay out these places and even as they are I think they make good encyclopedia additions as there must be information to add to these places at a later date. All that is needed is research. In doing so things begin to fit together - the history of the Ethiopian-Eritrian conflict in the region with the Italians I think must have a great deal to tell of which frightfully little is covered on it at present. I'm sure the same is for many of these places the more people look into it. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:11, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Man I feel like crying. see this. We must have about 10 photos in total of any city or town in Nigeria. You;d think it would be a bit more advanced than some of the African countries but no. Now check Category:Cities in Nigeria and Category:Towns in Nigeria. Some of these places have populations of 500,000 and there nothing on them. Only about four When I have a spare moment I seriously need to try to make some flickr agreements and get hold of some more. At present the amount we have is shocking. Only five or six places have a photo, and even then there is only three or four photos available max, most only one or two. CNow compare the four or so cities that have images in the commons to this which shows there are 29,471 places. Weep weep. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 19:46, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Well exactly it would take until I'm 10,000 years old to get places on here manually. I;m going to see if there is some way we can get a bot to start drilling hundreds of places daily on here. Given the enormous amount missing on a site this huge I find it amazing that there never seems to be more bots and drives who are performing these tasks. I wonder how difficult it would be to programme in a bot to start thousands of articles based on coordinates with an infobox. I'm sure it could be done. Would you support me in filing a request? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 19:58, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Looks as if Sierra Leone has a new online encyclopedia. It looks like it is in its infancy stage but such resources can only help. Hopefully other poorer countries will have the resources to do so soon enough too. Anyway I;ve sorted out all the cities in Guinea Bissau, and nearly Sierra Leone with infoboxes, I'll move onto Liberia next and Mali later, I'll aim to sort out every settlement in Africa that exist on wikipedia at present with an infobox and map , then new content can be added. I;ll also tag them as I go along - those projects are a great way to begin organizing it ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 12:25, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Brownsweg and Kolahun. Great articles huh? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 16:41, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Most of the articles on towns in Liberia and Suriname are only a quarter of a line long. I think I've found the least developed ones on wikipedia between these two ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 16:44, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Howz this for a name Gbokopeteme. A mouthful isn't it! I'm making good progress anyway today -I;ve sorted out the maps for Burkina Faso and Suriname. I;'ll ensure that most places have an infobox -it imporves quality considerably I think. I also dug out photos for places like Bamako, Bobo-Dioulasso (which didn't have a single one) and I managed to get hold of an image of a Burkinabe cinema so added it to Cinema of Burkina Faso!! I;ve put my name down for a few projects anyway so it is isn't just you!, I also put my name down for East Timor ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 21:04, 4 March 2008 (UTC) Interestingly many of the Somali city articles are reasonably developed and have images -its quite surprising. See Beledweyne etc. I've done quite a big assessment drive for Africa places today which has given me a chance to view things ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 21:33, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

In fact I'd even go on and say that some of the Somali geography articles are some of the more filled out in Africa on wikipedia comparitively speaking of course to the majority sub stubs that exist (excluding the ones like South Africa, Egypt, Algeria, Tunisia and Morocco of course). Its surprising you'd think Somali articles to be some of the least developed ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 21:36, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

I added a locator box and map to every city in the Republic of the Congo today anyway. I don't know how but I've notched up over 1000 edits in two days for Africa,. I;ve requested the missing maps for Sao Tome. Lesotho and Cape Verde and then we'll be completely able to "rule" Africa with infoboxes and locators eventually. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 22:12, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Obviously I won't generally be making anywhere near so many edits as that!!! but tagging, re-categorizing articles and minor edits to fix them ammasses up very quickly. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 12:12, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Check out Koré Maïroua, Pokigron (Surimame) and the new images on the Ghana article. If only I could get a starter image for everywhere!! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 18:55, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] sharing my vision for Methodism articles

Dear John

Having just seen your entry on teh Methodism talk pages about proposed Methodism group,

A indicating my interest

B As a courtessy to copy to you my post about vision for the Methodism entry.

And my recent articles invlude H B Kendall and Ramsor

From Methodism talk

Having edited the Lead section (I intend a bit of tidying to shorten it, for example moving one or 2 sentences to the Doctrine section of the article), here is an outline what I would like to see. Putting the subject on a square grid, horizontal and vertical "noughts-and-crosses" dividers include history / present day, Britain / USA / rest of the world; Branches (Weslayan / Primitive / Welsh / Countess of Huntingdon / etc ); as well as belief (doctrine) distinctives. Also comprehensive Book LIst (starting with a couple of dozen books in my study).

So I propose, if the Wikipedia etiquette allows, that the actual sections on the main Methodism page double as the Lead introductions on a series of satelite articles. This is to keep the length down to saomething practical on the main Methodism page. This will not aim to cut existing text, just to organise it (subject to general agreement) in the most logical way we can.

Timetable would be completion by end 2008 with main done by September.

My background includes growing up in a Methodist manse, being a Local Preacher, and running a web site devoted to some aspects of Methodist history. Robert of Ramsor (talk) 15:07, 6 March 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Thanks

for comments from yourself and Tinucherian on my talk page. (I am away for a few days, so more may have to wait til next week) Robert of Ramsor (talk) 18:25, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: I knew you couldn't keep away from the kitties

Bleh. If it were up to me, I'd go the other way and collapse this whole mess into a single project with appendage task forces; but nobody seems to care what I think. ;-) Kirill 02:39, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Global gazetteer

What's all this about kitties? The best thing I have found to date is Global gazetteer. It lists places A-Z through an A-Z of all countries in the world. I'd be amazed if a bot couldn't generate articles based on this. The location and elevation are reliable. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 16:59, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

All the basic data is there for coordinates, elevation, distance to nearest settlements and time zone as it is based on satellite information which is reliable. I gained quite a bit of experience of creating articles on settlements and comparing it to other sources like maplandia, google earth etc and the basic data is always correct. However their population estimates are NOT reliable and should be ingored until a government source is found but I believe the material is there to bot generate new articles based on the satellite findings. All that is need to create these articles is raw power which no human not even SPECTRE could ever think of accomplishing manually. This would give an excellent platform to build upon I think. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:09, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes of course, we'll need to discuss how it will be done in the most efficient way possible -looks good as the bot coordinator has said it looks like a perfect basis ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:15, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

An interesting afd at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bura-Chaty. Wasn't an article I started actually. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 00:55, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thank you for the endorsement. You now have the distinction as the first administrator to support my campaign. If you want you could add {{User:Uga Man/Userbox}} to your userpage.--Uga Man (talk) UGA MAN FOR PRESIDENT 2008 22:43, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lead section

Hi would you mind having a look at this Wikipedia:WikiProject_Lead_section_cleanup#Relevant_articles. Thanks.  Sunderland06  23:48, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Template:COTN schools

A tag has been placed on Template:COTN schools requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section T3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a deprecated or orphaned template. After seven days, if it is still unused and the speedy deletion tag has not been removed, the template will be deleted.

If the template is intended to be substituted, please feel free to remove the speedy deletion tag and please consider putting a note on the template's page indicating that it is substituted so as to avoid any future mistakes (<noinclude>{{transclusionless}}</noinclude>).

Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 01:56, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Naadapriya

This editor has been leaving his nonsense in Carnatic music. He assumes consensus is reached on frivolous grounds, and has made absurd assumptions that where there has been no comment made by any other editors, there is consensus, and has even stated this when this is not the case. As well as adding content that is not encyclopedic, he is adding POV and OR information, as well as entirely misrepresenting what reliable sources state, though mainly, synthesising material. The editor has been warned on several occasions both on the article talk page and on his own that such edits are not valid and may or wourld result in his ban, but he has chosen to ignore these warnings, and continues to deliberately either not follow Wikipedia's policies/procedures/guidelines or chooses to familiarize himself with them. He even came spewing to my page here. I have undone such unreasonable inaccurate edits but he continues to do so, and has threatened to report it as disruptive vandalism, when clearly, his editing results in the article being misleading, unencyclopedic, and disruptive. He was already blocked for sockpuppetry with 1 account - I think he has also been using another couple of accounts, but I'm not sure how recently these have been used. He has also been told several times on his talk page about the policies and guidelines he ought to follow to avoid repercussions, but fails to take them seriously. Please take the appropriate action against this editor, whether this involves a block, or a final warning. Thanks - Ncmvocalist (talk) 10:14, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Request for trashed text

John, can you please tell me where I can access the Wiki text for the deleted Amboseli Biosphere Reserve WikiProject + Annexes (see [5])? You mention that you've squirreled it away in your user space. I'd like to post it on our CMS site, http://elephanttrust.org, and try to awaken the sleepy participants. Many thanks, Harvey Croze (talk) 14:50, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Cape Verde

Only recently I discovered the WikiProject Cape Verde. I probably won’t have many time to dedicate to it since I’m already too busy in the Portuguese Wikipedia WikiProject Cape Verde. But if you need my help, here I am. Ten Islands (talk) 21:11, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Ebionites/wip

John, a user is requesting something be done with Ebionites/wip, (see my talk page). The wip page was never intended to be a free-standing article, but a lot of useful reference material is archived there. Since I didn't create the page, and I haven't worked on the article for some time, I don't think this should be my call. Cheers. Ovadyah (talk) 20:04, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Please see my clarification on Bearian's talk page. Thanks. Ovadyah (talk) 01:25, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Flickr images

Great news John, I've made another flickr agreement this time for central asia, countries see Joshua's pictures. Some valuable images in their for towns in places like Uzbekistan which don't yet have images. I've begun a directory at User:Blofeld of SPECTRE/Flickr agreements so all of the images by all these people can be freely uploaded to imporve content. Pretty good huh? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 21:04, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

CHeck out images like this. Stunning ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 21:07, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Mmm I don't know. User:Sadmelik has identified that the altitude figures on falling rain also aren't always accurate and are sometimes way off. Countries like like China are a major problem. A] They cover a huge area b] They have an enromous population and sheer number of settlements which would make it extremely difficult to update and monitor c]Often the names of the places aren't transliterated correctly or there are a huge amount of settlements with the same name oftne in the same vicinity. I just think something needs to be done where we are more in control of our coverage of individual countries and have a much detailed guide to them and not ignore 95% of the country landspace. In principle though I think it would be a very good idea for some system to bot articles on all the related wikipedias. I actually mentioned this to Jimbo some time ago but he didn't respond. Personally I think some kind of interwiki bot or translation would be a core asset to the devleopment of the wiki project ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 15:58, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Its interesting you say about wikimania being in Alexandria this year -they seem to pick odd locations but I guess Alexandria is more central than Taipwei! I must admit I've never really bothered to look much into the whole wikimania thing. I guess its a good thing to discuss the future development of the project , goals and accomplishments etc, but lectures generally don't appeal to me. I take it your going? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 15:52, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree completely about drawing up the lists red linked -remember I started creating the lists of settlements which when drawn up and formatted I intend to add to the mainspace. Admittedly even for me it is a huge and a dizzying task. I feel the best solution would be to have a bot generate a list of settlements plainly from falling rain so we know exactly what is missing and can sort out any duplicate names or dated names accordingly. Then when we have a full directory of every world location by country/island we can begin to think about the best way to implement it and work towards finding rleiable statistics for each country to produce reliable articles. I remain firm also in the belief that the satellite maps will develop completely and that when you click the locator globe eventually you;ll be able to see exactly how these settlements look up close and open up a whole new ball game. I long for the day when we could use satellites to obtain photographs freely of anywhere, but I doubt that will ever happen in this lifetime -of course there are significant political constraints on this anyway but it is a nice idea I think ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 16:19, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

I am shocked by the Criticism of George W. Bush article. It is clear in reading it that it reads more like an anti-Bush essay rather than an encyclopedic article. It isn't for an encyclopedia to criticise and I can't believe articles like this are permitted. I don't think too much of Bush either but this article oversteps the mark. What do you think? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:00, 9 March 2008 (UTC)


The tone of it is blatantly obvious throughout ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:01, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] A few things for you to look at on WT:AG

There are a couple things at the bottom of the talk page that you might be able to help with if you have a moment. Banner parameters and a merger of the beekeeping project are the things I am thinking about mostly. At least to comment, if not to actually fix. Thanks.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 16:47, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject_Africa/Saint_Helena_work_group

Please could you tell me more about the aims and objectives of the "Saint Helena Work Group"? It may be I can help with it. I'm also keen to know more about your personal interest in and involvement with St. Helena. Burgh House (talk) 08:21, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] COTN schools template

Thanks for the heads-up. It was a cool creation, but I can't think of anything to use it on, to be honest. If you don't care, either, then we can probably just let it go. Aepoutre (talk) 15:07, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Edit on Mitt Romney

Just letting you know that I warned the user you reverted. Enigma msg! 17:53, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Doug

[6]

Just for your information, this conversation is already happening on my talk page :) - Revolving Bugbear 17:55, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rajkumar

Can you please move this page to Rajkumar (actor) and let the above link redirect to the disambig page? There is no reason for giving the entire namespace to the actor as a priority, when there are other notable persons who have the same name. Thanks. Ncmvocalist (talk) 02:17, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

It is a non-trivial move and cannot be made without discussion. Per Wikipedia:Requested moves, a discussion has to happen and need to obtain consensus before the "Move". More details on this process are available in this page. - KNM Talk 05:31, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Ncmvocalist is not the person to decide who gets priority on Wikipedia. This is a WP:POINT retaliation on his part for getting his unsourced Carnatic music trinity image deleted - ¿Amar៛Talk to me/My edits 05:57, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
What nonsense. There is no valid justification for giving this sort of priority. In any case, certain members of the Kannada group are going to have to answer for themselves in a while. Ncmvocalist (talk) 08:09, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Amar

I can see that trying to prove your credentials to someone who chooses to rather whimsically brand you a troll can be futile.. and in that regard, Amar's attempt was perhaps uncalled for. His record speaks for himself and he actually need not have said what he said.. least of all to Ncmvocalist - in who's informed opinion Amar is a troll. Anyway, the issue has since been resolved amicably and alls well that ends well. Lets now just wait, hope and pray that Amar comes back and enriches wikipedia and our own editing environs with his exceptional contributions. Sarvagnya 21:50, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Need a few days

John...I need a few days...make something and I will look at it and give my opinion. I haven't been sleeping well the last few weeks so I am pretty wiped right now. - LA @ 23:25, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] SIMPA, Catena, etc.

The whole reason I AfDed them is because I did wait a couple of months, and nobody touched them. We've got a real problem if we have to prioritize an article by sending it through the deletion process, but this is multiple occurrences. So I don't agree that we should wait longer. Part of the problem is that "the other Freemasonry" has not got a foothold in English-speaking countries (for various reasons), so there's very little available on it in English. At best, I see a loose non-administrative conglomeration of small groups, which is still a small group in all cases. MSJapan (talk) 00:44, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ping

Comment requested here. Cheers! - Revolving Bugbear 18:00, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Thanks for your support. - J Greb (talk) 22:50, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP Film Music merge

I see that you've been up to a lot of WikiProject renovating wrt the inactive projects, which is always good to see! However, some of us at WP Films are a little puzzled by your suggested merge, mainly because there was no discussion initiated by you. I know that you probably have been in the midst of a lot of this work lately, so it's completely understandable. That being said, I'm guessing that our confusion stems from the fact that it would seem more appropriate to merge this project with WP Music, since that is the primary characteristic of the subject. While WP Films definitely would at the least consider it a sister project, I'm less than confident that we have the infrastructure, guidelines, and expertise to do much justice to the film music articles at a project-level. I would definitely welcome hearing your thoughts on the matter, though. Stay well, Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 03:59, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fictional icons

I'll have a look to see what I can find. Image:Illidan Stormrage statue, E3 2006.jpg or Image:LibertyTheaterNOLAEvans.jpg would be OK I think unless you would rather an animated icon. I'll have a look ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 16:48, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Did you find an image after? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 13:32, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP East Timor

Oh sage and wiki warrior (or should that be worrier) the east timor project appears to not have a template that can cope with my desire to provide its non articles with a removed red thingy at discussion on the category pages - :) I am wondering if you might apply your magic touch in the gizzards of the east timor project template so as to provide me with the option to tag the category pages with either NA or Cat - whichever comes out the least damaged or problematic :| - cheers and thanks and no rush but it would be nice - to use the experssion SatuSuro 06:07, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

V sorry - my general tendency seems to be a somewhat confusing one - I thought there was a subordinate working group or project WP East Timor - there is a page for such a project maybe no template yet - (i thought it probably wass meant to be subordinate to the melanesian project) - whether it can have a range of assessment at east timor only or not i am not sure - i will try to locate the pages and give links in a few minutes (diversions aside :( ) SatuSuro 13:25, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

This page is what made me think there was a template for the project http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_East_Timor SatuSuro 13:30, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Solved = thanks for that - I appreciate that we have sorted it out - oh well if i get to do the tagging of non article pages i'll test first for class=NA or class =cat SatuSuro 13:32, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thelmadatter´s student

Hello John!!! my name is Judith and I am in a course with Leigh, she told us you are a very reliable mentor that could help us during this semester. These days I am trying to get familiarized with wikipedia but it is really new for me. Specially the use of codes is driving me crazy!, so, if you can give some advise I will really appreciate it. I was trying to modify the boxes in the right side of the Wikiproject Mexico. I do not know how to write things in that boxes or load an image...

It would be a pleasure to have contact with you! Have a nice day! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Judithsq (talk • contribs) 15:23, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!!! I refer to the infobox, I read the link you placed in my talk page. If the infobox already exists and I want to load an image like a city photo, where do I have to save the image first?, after I have it I just write for example "toluca.jpg" in the field |image_map=?, another doubt is how to write the coordinates of a place in fields such as: |longd= |longm= |longs= |longEW=W. Judith Soto 21:55, 15 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Judithsq (talk • contribs)
Hi John! Thanks for the information, I used your advice for the Zinacantepec stub and I am working on an article for the seat of this municipality. I would like to add some images to the article but in class there was some discussion about copyright... how can I put my images (taken by me) in Wikipedia without having copyright problems?. Judith Soto 20:32, 27 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Judithsq (talk • contribs)
Hello John! I don´t know if Mexico´s geography is familiar to you but even if not I think you can give us your opinion about what seems to be better for an encyclopedia such as WP. We are trying to get a concensus on how we must organize some articles. Could you give us your opinion about a discussion we are having at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Mexico/Strategy .For me the Baja´s articles are an example of what we must do for all the states. There are 2 general ideas and the discussion is mainly between Thelmadatter and me, I think we require another point of view. Your comments will be much appreciated. --Judith Soto | Talk 17:35, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] French commune tagging

John any idea if we should create a communes=yes parameter for the Wikipedia:WikiProject French communes work group of WP:France? There are several thousand that need tagging and I want to ensure it is done properly ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 16:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps you could help organize a {{WikiProject France|class=stub|Communes=yes}} kind of thing? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 16:25, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Well something needs sorting -I think using the france banner with a pararmeter would be best as I have said on the project page. Its just there are thousands of articles untagged which I would sorting out if we had the work group parameter sorted. I don';t see a point in taggin the article sonly to find out a few weeks later they have been replaced. You liked the image then. Could you show me where it is being used? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 16:51, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

PLus I'll also look into sorting out assessments for Central Asian countries. I think it is rather defeatist not the have assessments for them given the huge size of some of them and regardless of active wikiprojects they still need individual assessments. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 16:53, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

I've just got around to sorting out the categories for Sudanese cities and in the name of Mount Fuji they are the worst set of articles in any country I;ve ever seen on wikipedia, see the greatness that is Jonglei (village) and Tanub, Sudan. 95% untagged and it is a HUGE country as well. I'll tag them in a minute was they are seriously bad and underdeveloped. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 18:04, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

I was discussing this issue with an editor who works primarily on Mexican articles a few weeks back when I told him about the new Mexican locator map and he was keen that municipal articles should be seperate from the town articles and he was quite optimistic that enough could be written about both. The thing is with Mexico the "municipalities" aren't like the small commune area equivalent in other countries they are more equal to districts of the actual country, which as you can imagine can contain tens even hundreds of vilages or smaller towns. If we are planning for growth then I would strongly adivse to develop them seperately. Unfortunately the down side is that one article may develop fully at the expense of the other. Prime exmaple check ou the FA article on Mysore and now compare it to Mysore Division. Stark contrast isn't it. I asked Amargg to try to expand it but apparently nobody cares about districts in India ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 18:57, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Anyway I've tagged every articles on a Sudanese town -now I am ensuring every articles on Sudan is tagged as for me this is THE least developed country on wikipedia especially in terms of size ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 18:59, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Your're kidding me Amargg? I always liked him and frequently praised his work -it was a shame we crossed paths with the Zinta-Sarvagnya thing negatively. I do hope he hasn't left permanently and he was exactly the sort of editor localised places of the world need to develop articles. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 19:09, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 1 billion words

I don't know if you are aware or even care less, but English wikipedia currently has around 991,000,000 words as of March 13 2008. I thought it would be nice if somebody takes note when we pass the 1 billion word mark as I feel this is a monumental milestone in wikipedia's history. Let me know what you think and whether this should be brought up in the announcements ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 20:00, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Its quite astonishing isn't, I doubt many know. I feel word count reflects actual content rather than number of articles anyway. I keep tabs on it as I like to see the word count increase about 1 million every day which makes me keep faith that things are actually getting better! Oh -if you are interested when you have a moment browse through all the articles for Category:Cities, towns and villages in The Gambia like Bakau etc. I was pleasantly surprised to find a decent resource base in the commons for it, and they make a major difference. I'll finish tagging Sudan over the next week or so, I'm sorting out cities in Guinea at present. I;ve requested a new map for Sudan and one for Western Sahara -that just about covers the pin locators for the whole of Africa ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 20:19, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Admin. attempt and advice

Dear John Carter, thanks for the advice, it was really helpful. I know that I just started recently and every one has given me alot of good consructive criticism...I really appreciate it. So, maybe in six months to a year I'll try again. Everyone has given me a strong incentive to keep on going. Also, thanks for responding back to the comment on Hinduism. Thanks again and sincerely, Govinda Ramanuja dasa USA (talk) 00:31, 14 March 2008 (UTC)


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[edit] The Oath

If you want to take it, you can. Let me know.InvisibleDiplomat666 (talk) 06:09, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Al Bithnah

I've only been on here for a few minutes today but I came across this in the new pages. You know that the maps can be added right and it is always customary to add the country and province in the infobox? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 18:42, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Its a bit of a coincidence as I had recategorized Kuwait the other night and UAE was on my list to sort out. I'll create a new Category:Cities, towns and villages in the United Arab Emirates so all you new articles should be included also in this category. I'm merging the cities and the towns avillages two categories. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 18:52, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

One things puzzling me though why the external link for Al Kubus is linked to places in ajman? Its better to provide a link to the actual page rather than the list. I've added the new category Category:Cities, towns and villages in the United Arab Emirates to your new articles; if you could use this in future if you plan on making any more. Its always good to find a link to maplandia.com also but if you are stubbing quickly to set up some sort of project perhaps you don't have time, Thanks ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 19:11, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Theres several like that - Al Bithnah also is in fujairah but is linked to ajman list. I'll help with a few of them and add some nearby towns and villages to expand them a little ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 19:15, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Need assessment log for Indian Christianity articles

We Need assessment log for Indian Christianity articles similar to Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Christianity articles by quality log. How do I do that ?? - Tinucherian (talk)

Got it now Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Indian Christianity work group articles by quality log . Thanks - Tinucherian (talk) 09:55, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Article importance scale for WikiProject Equine

Hello. WikiProject Equine is discussing an article importance scale here. Your POV would be appreciated. --Una Smith (talk) 16:38, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Real G-Unit BarnStar!

The Fraternity/Sorority Barnstar
For being apart of WikiProject Freemasonry! InvisibleDiplomat666 05:40, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Copying pages to your userspace pending deletion

John, I know you've been copying several alleged portals/projects to userspace as part of the deletion process. I got thinking this may not be such a good idea. I'm not sure how you're doing it, if you're copying the history then fine (but why? you're an admin and can access the deleted page); but you can see from my comments to User:Abd when he recently decided to solve the deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Chiism(Godianism) the way he and User:Obuibo Mbstpo are wont to do, that I consider this a bad idea. I realize he was doing it for a point, whereas you were doing it to preserve the data in case it was required later, but the issue is very likely the same. An ordinary copy/paste would destroy the history. Just something to consider. My comments to Abd are in that discussion and further at User talk:Abd#Please don't ever do this again. Your thoughts on this are desired as I may be completely out to lunch on this, your comments about my knowledge of copyrights notwithstanding.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 12:40, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Films coordinator elections

The WikiProject Films coordinator selection process is starting. We are aiming to elect five coordinators to serve for the next six months; if you are interested in running, please sign up here by March 28! Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 09:40, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't know whether you agree but while I think the coordinator thing is good to operate films, I find the "Lead coordinator" thing and "elections" a little pretentious. Does it have to be so political?

Anyway I would deeply appreciate you taking the time to sort out the french commune banner -only admins are permitted to edit the french template. Could you please state to them what you are doing and get something set up like you have done for all those hundreds of other task forces? Cheers ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 16:02, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, well yes I fully agree that the more coordination a project gets the better its just the "lead" coordinator sounds a bit domineering -perhaps its just me. But I don't think it matters if it means that assessment in WP:Films is improved and made more reliable. I just tend to not approve of turning into a bureacracy though, where editors are seen as above the other project members (but if this is what it takes for everything to improve then I fully support it). It should work out OK though. I was amazed we have 10,000 new film article sin the last few months -I have no idea where they all came from as I rarely see a film in the new pages -its usually only Lugnuts' silent film articles and the occasional Indian film stubs I see. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 16:20, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Probbably just communes=yes would be the easiest I would think ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 16:28, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

I just learned that somebody has removed Category:Castles in France and merged it into Category:Chateaux in France where as you know a chateau is generally a distinguished stately home or palace rather than a tradional castle type building , instead we have a category named Category:Fortified French châteaux which sounds ridiculous. Would you support a move back to Category:Castles in France ? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:49, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Any developments on the french banner? I noticed you also commented at the Jimbo Wales resignation proposal. People blow things all out of proportion don't they with all sorts of allegations. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 19:08, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Copying pages to your userspace pending deletion

John, I know you've been copying several alleged portals/projects to userspace as part of the deletion process. I got thinking this may not be such a good idea. I'm not sure how you're doing it, if you're copying the history then fine (but why? you're an admin and can access the deleted page); but you can see from my comments to User:Abd when he recently decided to solve the deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Chiism(Godianism) the way he and User:Obuibo Mbstpo are wont to do, that I consider this a bad idea. I realize he was doing it for a point, whereas you were doing it to preserve the data in case it was required later, but the issue is very likely the same. An ordinary copy/paste would destroy the history. Just something to consider. My comments to Abd are in that discussion and further at User talk:Abd#Please don't ever do this again. Your thoughts on this are desired as I may be completely out to lunch on this, your comments about my knowledge of copyrights notwithstanding.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 12:40, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vaishnavism's relation to Vedic religion

Hello John Carter. I have added the above discussion (from the Krishna talk page) to the Vaishnavism Wikiproject talk page at, Vaishnavism's relation to Vedic religion. Please feel free to add any comments. Thanks. Ism schism (talk) 17:04, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Hello John, if you'd like a clear scholarly perspective on Vaishnavism beyond all the pov disputes, then I would recommend Gavin Floods An Introduction to Hinduism, see: Chapter 6 - "The love of Vishnu". ISBN 81-7596-028-0. All the best, Gouranga(UK) (talk) 21:46, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] re: List of Avengers members

Thanks for the complement, but the section doesn't seem to have done what I'd hoped. I'd wanted both sides, especially Slam and Spshu, to step back and actually look at what they're doing. But it's seems to have just moved the SOSO from the section above down.

But I'll take a look...

- J Greb (talk) 22:52, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Classroom coordination

That's an interesting idea that you posted at classroom coordination. I'm planning some teacher training workshops soon, some of which will probably involve a project at wikiversity. I'm going to see if there is any interest in a Wikipedia:Meetup/Providence. I noticed you are signed up on wikiproject RI, are you local? --mikeu (talk) 13:00, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Red links

The coverage of List of Estonian actors is quite brilliant don't you think? That page would make a bull go crazy ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 18:41, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I know it shows how little we cover things like this and evne the blue links we have are poor stubs mostly. Earlier I did a google search for about five or six names in it at random and I found each one to be what would be considered notable enough for wikipedia -e.g graduated from respected Tallinn drama school and was a performer in a major theatre etc or in some tv series. There is likely to be some names more notable than others in there. If some editor decides some are non notable then they can be whittled down later but this reveals gaping holes in the content of our project. I'm having an extremely productive and diverse day of editing today, I have been looking through categories in various foreign wikis and been astounded by the disproportion of articles -I've been looking at norwegian, swedish, danish, finnish estonian, latvian, romanian and slovenian wikis today. I roughly translated Carlos Conca , a Chilean scientist earlier but it will need proof reading and I've got the first Gabonese painter and poet started Aida Touré. I think categories on other wikipedia and entries should be checked for notability and then at least stubbed in english. This is what I intend doing in places. I went through the Romanian poets A earlier - we now have at least 6 or 7 new articles as a result which I hope any romanian speakers will expand. Can't fault me for trying through ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 20:56, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

The way I see it is it that you have to look at the product of wikipedia across the various wikis and really take note of the articles generated by people in their native languages and countries and observe their articles. This way we can begin to think about setting out the articles or stubbing them into english in an even way and hope more native speakers who want to contribute to english wikipedia come along and expand them. I;ve seen it happen on many occasions -I remain optimistic21:06, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Ah the estonian list was quickly lifted from the estonian wikipedia -the List of Finnish painters also from finnish wikipedia category and the List of streets in Oslo which many articles on Norwegian wikipedia show that many of them are notable and can be written into full articles. I did check some of them earlier and there are some quite detailed articles - Niels Juels Street and Ring 3 (Oslo) are some examples of notable roads -(it blows my head though to think too much about missing content) Lists are a good way I think of revealing what is missing and serve as work pages for editors to hungrily attack (hopefully) . The sky is the limit really on how much everybody could potentially develop things. But yes overall I've put in quite a lot of work on various stuff today, particularly the Carlos Conca article. I still think the best way to highlight the articles on other wikipedias is to generate various lists and then at least they are linked ready for starting at a later date. This is better than hiding them I feel ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 21:14, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Mmm yes I think it is a very good idea to generate missing article lists behind the main space by country in the various fields. I will keep this in mind - I would like to see more consideration by each wikiproject and the missing encyclopedia articles project of doing this, I think to accompany all of the wikiprojects you;ve set up each pages could have the section Missing articles and the page lists linked -e.g WikiProject Estonia with the /Missing articles and this done by country to sort of plan out needed areas of development and to identify just eactly what is missing. A sort of catalogue of missing articles is exactly what we need. I would be very grateful if you could help setting these pages up to at least give a basis to build upon ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 21:29, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

If the missing articles are outrageously huge which for many countries there will be it could later be organized e.g

  • Wikipedia:WikiProject Estonia/Missing articles/Settlements
  • Wikipedia:WikiProject Estonia/Missing articles/Buildings
  • Wikipedia:WikiProject Estonia/Missing articles/Arts

etc

But first things first . The missing article section andlink needs adding to each of the country wikiprojects first. If we want to increase the scope and coverage by country it would be a good idea to puruse this ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 21:35, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

E.g see Wikipedia:WikiProject Gabon ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 21:39, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes obviously several wikiprojects have something along these lines already but many of them are not developed yet. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Estonia/Missing articles now -which is linked in the main project page. Providing these can only increase traffic to the missing pages and try to encourage editors who are from these countries or speak the language to try tackle one or two.

Care to join me at Wikipedia:WikiProject Europe/Slovenia. I'm currently the only member ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 22:05, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Unbelievable - Slovenia like many of those central european countries like Austria, the new Czechoslovakian and Yugslav states are centres for the arts and baroque architecture -you know the fine arts and classical music and buildings and such. The cities are absolutely plastered in cool buildings -have a look at the category for Ljubljana at the commons. Yet we didn't until a minute ago have one article on a palace or a gallery in Slovenia!! Ljubljana looks very much like Vienna, and we both know what that city looks like (in the real world not on wiki!) ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 22:22, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I rather like the look of Slovenia and Ljubljana -it looks cool I think -very stylish indeed and at present there is crap all about it and there wasn't a single project member. Tomorrow I think I'll create a a city template and red link over twenty articles on various notable buildings and landmarks and topics using the commons.

There we are I created Template:Ljubljana. I'll add the missing ones tomorrow or later perhaps ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 22:49, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I;ve developed Ljubljana today. Check out St. Nicholas Cathedral, Ljubljana, Sela Castle etc etc in the nav box -even Ljubljana Zoo lol. It makes such a difference when there is plenty of info in english and images!! Also see Mining in Burundi I'm thinking about starting a Mining in Africa series.

Will do, I'll create a foundation template later, mining plays a very important part in the African economy in many countries. I asked somebody to write the Mining in South Africa article when the core articles were highlighted back in late November but incredibly articles like Mining in Sierra Leone are still missing which is a seriously important African economic article diamonds, gold etc.

Evidently we both know the reason behind Mongolia's "unwillingness", if I'm not mistaken some "bird is showing up after hours" correct? This is the same reason why Kyrgzstan and Uzbekistan etc don't have any assessments yet because of somebody's stubborness?

Anyway I'm loving the baroque architectire of Lbjublana. Check my newest Gruber Palace -I'll reference it now ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:16, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Well at least we have one Slovenian on the case User:Viator slovenicus ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 22:04, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Good article:Ali

Salam, I've nominated this article for GAR. I don't think it's a good article now but it is the only way which I found to improve it. There are 3 citation needed which can be removed easily. Please check the article and write your viewpoint in the talk page.--Seyyed(t-c) 04:50, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your review. I'd like you review the article and consider it as an A-Class Biography review. --Seyyed(t-c) 03:04, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Doug redux

The turn is yours, good sir. - Revolving Bugbear 19:21, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Hope I did OK. I've never nominated anyone before. John Carter (talk) 19:47, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Awesome. I left the template for Doug. - Revolving Bugbear 20:33, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
  • I just logged on and noticed I had extra tabs! Wow! I was surprised with the unopposed promotion! I just want to say "thank you" to both of you. (BTW, do you consider it necessary to personally thank everyone? Seems a post on my talk page thanking everyone would be a bit less clutter but would it be huge faux pas?)--Doug.(talk • contribs) 20:05, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Lead Paragraph cleanup#Relevant articles

Can you please take a look there please. Thanks.  Sunderland06  18:38, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your gracious gift

My dear Mr Carter, one must thank you for the 'barnstar', whatever that may be. Is it similar to something that James Stewart might have worn in Destry Rides Again? I am particularly fond of Mr Stewart, as he was of me, but therein lies another story.... I can assure you that a lady would never be seen wearing such a trinket as a corsage, but one appreciates the gesture.

By the way, you appear to have dropped the 'u' in humour, much as that blasted man Jago has just dropped the silver salver bearing my evening corpse reviver. Your mistake was entirely unintentional, I am sure. Jago, I am not so sure. It is the second time he has done it this evening, and he seems to spend an inordinate amount of time watching my maidservant Henrietta bending over to clear up the mess. I shall have to have words.

Princess Venetia di Cannoli (talk) 18:43, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Slovene mines

Check out the Slovenia project page now. I've created Template:Mining in Africa. Also see Zulu wikipedia. A whopping 139 articles. Even we once started like this lol ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 22:36, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Project Banner

I have a question/reply at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Eastern_Orthodoxy#Regarding_project_banner Grk1011 (talk) 16:53, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I have a question...

Hey John; I don't know if you remember me, I formed the WikiProject Kabbalah. I have a question about the way I edit. I see that you're an administrator now, but I wanted to know if you knew of an administrator who specializes in editing who could help me out. It could be anybody but if you feel your qualified than I could just ask you. But if you feel you're not could you refer me to one? By the way, I don't want to put myself up for review because that's part of the problem. Anyway, that's it; please let me know on my talk page. Lighthead þ 07:09, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] my RFA

 Thank you!

Thank you for your support in my RFA. The final vote count was (73/3/1), so I am now an administrator. Please let me know if at any stage you need help, or if you have comments on how I am doing as an admin. Have a nice day! :) Aleta Sing 17:14, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Template:Central-America/Class

A tag has been placed on Template:Central-America/Class requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section T3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a deprecated or orphaned template. After seven days, if it is still unused and the speedy deletion tag has not been removed, the template will be deleted.

If the template is intended to be substituted, please feel free to remove the speedy deletion tag and please consider putting a note on the template's page indicating that it is substituted so as to avoid any future mistakes (<noinclude>{{transclusionless}}</noinclude>).

Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 21:31, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Template:Central America/Task force categories

A tag has been placed on Template:Central America/Task force categories requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section T3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a deprecated or orphaned template. After seven days, if it is still unused and the speedy deletion tag has not been removed, the template will be deleted.

If the template is intended to be substituted, please feel free to remove the speedy deletion tag and please consider putting a note on the template's page indicating that it is substituted so as to avoid any future mistakes (<noinclude>{{transclusionless}}</noinclude>).

Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 21:31, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: I have a question...

No I was just wondering if you could refer me to an administrator who specializes in editing; that's it... Lighthead þ 06:32, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Adminship

Current word count 999,817,000 words. Anyway I hope you'll give it some thought as to whether you think I should go for adminship and whether you know why the Mauritania parameter doesn't work in the Africa tempate. Cheerio ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 20:14, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

HI John. See the conversation on User talk:Shshshsh#Adminship and whether you think I should go for adminship. The lack of tools at times really inhibits me ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 15:58, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

P.S I've managed to get together 11 members for WP:Slovenia now -probably enough to constitue a seperate wiki project ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 15:59, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Have you been to the library and found a gazeteer for UAE or something? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 16:29, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

What? You are in the United Arab Emirates now??? Or did you mean library? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 16:34, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

I can only imagine if more people bothered to check these things out how much missing content we'd find. The library in my area has been under renovation since like 2001 lol and is pretty poor anyway. Anyway add whatever you can ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 16:39, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

I think SLovenia already has the assessment set up. One thing though -I couldn't get the Mauritania work group to work in the African banner earlier ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:25, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Its just I wish there was some way I could be elected to have more tools which would help me with me work on here. Sometimes the only way I could do it is to be an admin but I am indecisive as I feel I may get tied down with council stuff which is not what I am about ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 21:53, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

I might consider it, but I doubt it although I have obviously done a lot of central work on the film project. I'm not dedicating so much time to films these days anyway like I used to, although this might change once I have made some headway with the africa/undeveloped world countries and cities.

By the way yesterdat I created

Template:HIV/AIDS in Africa

I aim to also create a Poverty series exploring the socio-economic effects of poverty in Africa and perhaps a UN aid series exploring the uNited Nations work in the lesser developed countries. Real world issues and serious ones at that -but don't worry I haven't turned into Bono .... yet . ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 15:16, 24 March 2008 (UTC) Oh and I think I am one of many who is having trouble with MC Bride or whatever his name is -he seems to be taking it upon himself to tag everybodys templates and categories for speedy -I had to salvage to of my cinema templates earlier ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 15:18, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Sorry, I missed this comment, is this still relevant?

Many apologies, I missed the post to my talk page re User:Bishzilla until this morning. Is this still something you need my assistance with?--Doug.(talk • contribs) 16:58, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mauritania

Oh yes could you correct it -it is Category:WikiProject Mauritania articles not Category:Mauritania articles ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:16, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

LOL. Yes I'll give it some thought. If I had to state a specialist area I would use the tools it would probably be new page patrol and speedy deleting spam. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 19:24, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Might be a good idea to make some flickr agreements to get some images for some of the pacific islands. I don't know if you have seen the solomon islands category but the amount of images we have is apalling. We must have one photo of a place anywhere. The rest are either black and white fuzzy WWII pictures or depictions of warriors from like 1890. Probably the same is for Nauru , Niue and some of the other places we talked about before. The most important thing I could be given is the ability to make a flickr agreement and officially OTRS it for wikipedia. I'm tired of having to wait for weeks on end and Ruiana never doing a thing about it and she is so "stressed" . If I was permitted to do that I could get us several hundred new images for places like this in no time. As it is some of my images ar eunder threat because nobody can be bothered to authorise it. WOuld you be prepared to help me get something done where I can have the ability to make flickr agreements and seal them? I;d probably need to be an admin in the commons which I've hardly done any work in, but something needs to be done ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 21:24, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

I've just checked out the admin requests page and I can't believe some of the editors who are up. Some have 5,000 edits or have created a whopping 52 articles and are somehow garnering support. Perhaps its time I was selected . ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 22:13, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Council roll call

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[edit] Re:Re: I have a question...

Yeah, that's what I meant, I realized in what way I was vague way later... sorry. Thanks. Lighthead þ 22:46, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually my specific query is that I don't get a response when I edit an article's talk page, for example I feel like I leave good ideas but then no one responds; is it that I don't get enough people together to respond. Like, is there something on Wikipedia, that can help with that? Lighthead þ 22:52, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks so much, I'll refer myself to your message whenever I have a problem. Again, thanks. Lighthead þ 23:02, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Council

I have a question (since I saw that you were the only person to remove the asterisk from their name!) about removing that asterisk. I didn't see any place to edit that information. Please help me out. Thanks. Lighthead þ 23:52, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I should have figured that out. Oh, and I saw her page...primitive...(LOL!!) Lighthead þ 0:12, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

RThank you for the advice on my proposal to start a group to do with "Religious programmes".I have, as you suggested, added my username, and many apologies that this entry was initially not in the correct place - you can now check it appears where it should do, i.e. to maintain alphabetical order. I had in mind a group to do with religious programmes covering all the world's major faiths, as I hope my recent edit clarifies. Thank you again for the message. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 20:19, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Milhist tagging

I've responded with some suggestions here. I'm sorry it took me so long but I've been swamped, both online and in real-life (we have the builders in!!) and I had it in mind that your drive was due to start at the end of this month. What is the best way forward now? I'm reluctant to modify the drive page as it would somewhat take over. What I've done, I hope, is provide the components which some kind soul at Biography can use on the drive page. Suggestions welcomed, --ROGER DAVIES talk 07:30, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Banner question

Over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Middle Ages/Crusades task force they may want to convert from task force to project. Can that be done with ease, or will all articles need to be retagged? -- Secisek (talk) 08:03, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Museums WikiProject

Hi! You expressed an interest in a Museums Wiki Project and after working in a number of articles and wanting to add a template that didn't exist, I went ahead and launched the project:

You have been invited to join the Museums WikiProject, a collaborative effort focused on improving Wikipedia's coverage of museums. If you'd like to join, just add your name to the member list. Thanks for reading!

I'd appreciate any feedback you have (this is my first project} and any help in project related 'stuff'. Thanks TRAVELLINGCARIMy storyTell me yours 16:53, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

LMAO! Aren't you honored to be in the scope of the project? TRAVELLINGCARIMy storyTell me yours 21:25, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
I've replaced the invite template with the correct one.— Rod talk 13:40, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposals page

Unfortunately, anyone can and often does create projects on their own without even listing them on the proposals page. I know of one, Indianapolis, which was I think created out of spite when I proposed making it a work group of Indiana. Your statements to the effect of "oppose" are ones I'm not sure how to deal with. Personally, I rather like them, as they seem to be causing some people to not create silly projects as quickly, but technically opposition isn't relevant to the proposals. But, like I said, they do seem to be causing at least some people to not create half-baked projects when they might have before. I guess I would have to say, basically, keep it up, although people might at times object to seeing your comments there. Unfortunately, it might be one of the few ways to keep Wikipedia:WikiProject (one-hit wonder) and Wikipedia:WikiProject (TV show cancelled halfway through the first season) from coming into existence. So, basically, if you ever get "called" on your comments, maybe respond politely, but, otherwise, keep it up. It seems to be working, when other methods haven't. John Carter (talk) 00:33, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Unfortunately, it seems as if WikiProjects, like much of Wikipedia is currently out of control. In my opinion, many of the current WikiProjects are poorly managed because they have very small numbers. While editors may be passionate about their topics, they really fail to see the value of collaboration in article improvements. As I mentioned to another editor, I believe that most of the projects proposed are better fits as Task Forces in projects that already exist. To take it one-step further I believe we should look a proposing several existing projects merge into their parent projects as task forces, but I know that is not the role of the Council. I really believe that would help make things better, but…that is just my opinion. On the subject of dissenting voices: I was contacted by two; both who had proposed Projects. One started his project anyway (I didn’t really care enough to start a lame edit war about it). Since there is no real format outlined for comments on the page and Wikipedia:Consensus doesn’t seem to currently be in practice, terms like Oppose, Support and Neutral may be foreign to many. I guess, in truth, the page could probably use some major cleanup and overhaul. Final note: I’ve noticed your edits not just on the Council space, but in other places. Thanks for doing such a good job. We need more Gnomes!!!! -- Absolon S. Kent (talk) 14:37, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
For what it's worth, there are going to be quite a few merger proposals made in the next few weeks. Trust me on that. ;) Also, as soon as the new updated directory is done, I think we might try to formally make some sort of statement to the effect that most of the major topics are already covered. That being the case, it would probably make sense to say that most of the proposals should be task forces. I don't know how popular such a statement would be, but it does seem to be one of the few ways to prevent the glut of templates and the like. John Carter (talk) 14:43, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cities

If we could get a list like List of cities, towns and villages in Turkmenistan started for every country this wopuld be the first step toards getting them started. This way I can also dab the places which have the same name ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 17:48, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Requested photographs in Guam

I created Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Guam to better aid those in Guam to locate articles needing photos of particular areas within Guam. -- GregManninLB (talk) 18:51, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Celts

I wonder if we jumped the gun in the creation of this one. I was eager, creating templates, inviting and tagging, and after some early contention, it has fizzled. :( Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 20:54, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Religious programmes as Wiki Project Council(my suggestion)

Thank you for putting your name forth as another interested Wikipedian for my proposal to start a new project group on religious programmes. Twice before I have proposed new project groups, once on gerontology and once on transpersonal studies, but I had no response to these, so thank you for being the very first Wikipedian to take an interest in one of my proposals. A case of "third time lucky" for me, and we could be the two co-founders of this one! I take your point that this could be a sub-project group within the group on religion. I would object to this becoming a sub-project of the Television project group, though, as religious programmes could form part of radio as well as television. Perhaps the title ought to be broadened to "Religious media"? Just let me know what you think.Thank you again for your interest. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 21:30, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Crowley/Krishna debate

Glad to see that we (by which I mean all of the editors involved) are finally beginning to reach a peaceful compromise on the subject, as opposed to the potential edit wars and blocks I had feared. --Shruti14 t c s 05:53, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Question

Sure - will keep it on my watchlist and start soon. The WP India assessment dept. hasn't found the need for formal A-class reviews (like GA and FA) on its articles as yet, as it's only awarded the grade at its discretion, or has presumed that a formal review at another WP project dept. (like Films or Biography) has dealt with it. Still, in the cases where are any requests for WP India articles (outside of these other projects) that want to be considered for an A grade, I'll definitely let you know. Ncmvocalist (talk) 02:08, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Messianic Judaism

If it is possible please write your opinion on my topic on Messianic Judaism page about Daniel Zion. Thank you. Vladislav1968 (talk) 08:21, 29 March 2008 (UTC)Vladislav1968

[edit] AFD die another day

You seen the afd?? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 18:47, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Check out the images I uploaded to Taravai, Aukena and Akamaru Island‎ . I founded them lurking on french wikipedia. The color is out of this world isn't it ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 21:00, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Ali

Hi, Thanks. But it's not a good time for it. Please wait until the copy-editing is finished. Can you please write your idea about the article here. I think there are some disagreements between me and reviewer.--Seyyed(t-c) 17:56, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Much thanks!

Thank you for your vote of confidence! I appreciate the support. :) —Erik (talk • contrib) - 20:36, 30 March 2008 (UTC)