Talk:Wars of national liberation

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[edit] Tense

Why is the introduction written in past tense? This seems to imply that wars of national liberation are a thing of the past. This needs to be changed. Tuna027 16:35, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

On the contrary, I would suggest that a war of national liberation is by definition waged against a colonizing power. For that reason I suggest that Chechnya and Iraq be removed from the article. Cripipper 21:25, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] relationship to article on War of Independence

See discussion at Talk:War of Independence. Joriki 09:16, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why is the USA included in this article

The USA should not be included in this article as the particpants were actually traitors to the English crown (colonists who were from England and believed in the freedoms only the English had at the time) and not 'indiginous', thereby invalidating the articles definition of a war of national liberation.

Obviously, many of the colonists were born in the colonies themselves, hence they were indigenous. Or is someone not 'indigenous' if their grandparents aren't born in a certain land? (In which case, no Human is indigenous to any continent other than Africa...) Jkp1187 (talk) 15:23, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

As someone who had distant relatives arrive in the 1630s and who fought at Concord and Lexington, I do consider all the longtime colonists to have achieved a certain indigenous status. On the other hand obviously, there is the issue of whether the longer time indigenous peoples of North and South America saw much difference between the European colonists who had settled there and the ones trying to contain those settlers. The issue of waves of people replacing other people, either violently or just by greater population growth, obviously is of some importance, though I don't have an idea of how to express that in this article. Or should I say, I haven't don't the research to find reliable sources with an opinion :-) In my spare time. Carol Moore 00:30, 15 December 2007 (UTC)User:Carolmooredc User talk:Carolmooredc

[edit] Merge colonial war here

Both clearly are about the same subject, but it is a question of Wikipedia:Naming Conventions. I assume that "wars of national liberation" is the most correct title, as right to self-determination was recognized by the United Nations Charter signed on June 26, 1945 at the San Francisco Conference and ratified by all major powers. Tazmaniacs

What about wars before 1945? It might be better to mege the article the other way --Philip Baird Shearer 23:49, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

I see no one has merged it and I removed the notation. I think that is best because a lot of colonial wars were the initial wars of colonization, where the resistance was not really organized or thinking about national liberation.

Carol Moore 03:45, 29 November 2007 (UTC)User:Carolmooredc User talk:Carolmooredc

[edit] against colonial powers

However, according to Gwynne Dyer, the tactics and strategies used against colonial powers were almost invariably failures when used against indigenous regimes.
  • What is a colonial power? What is an "indigenous regime"?
  • What is the perioid this article is covering? Is this article just about post World War II?

--Philip Baird Shearer 23:47, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Colonial Wars/Wars of National Liberation

Colonial wars and wars of national liberation are not the same subject. Colonial or anti-colonial wars refers to wars of independence or self-government, were the economic system remained largely unchanged. Wars of national liberation were Communist sponsored or inspired conflicts, which sought to overthrow not only leadership of a country, but its social and economic systems. --Hughstew 01:42, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] India

Shouln't this mention the Indian Rebellion of 1857? Gustav von Humpelschmumpel (talk) 13:02, 8 January 2008 (UTC)