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[edit] Foreign editions

I just created a new section about foreign editions in the Warriors series. I think a picture of one of the foreign editions would be helpful, but since I have no experience in uploading images, I thought I'd ask here for someone to try and do that. Thanks! Shrewpelt (talk) 04:32, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Loaded one from Japan and one from Russia ClawClaw (talk) 20:26, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Just added the Japanese one. I had to delete the cover from this page because of fair use. Shrewpelt (talk) 21:52, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Layout

This page got a makeover!! me no like... >:( 76.27.108.99 (talk) 02:48, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

What are you referring to? Epass (talk) 12:06, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I think 76.27.108.99 is referring to the section names. An IP user changed them, so I think I'll change it back to how I had it if there are no objections. Shrewpelt (talk) 12:47, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I think the new layout is fine, but I the article is good either way. Epass (talk) 20:10, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I have changed the section names - or some of theme. It was just that Super Edition and Field Guide needed to be plural, the manga volumes should be under one section heading, and having ' (the flying comma thing) around section names isn't good. Hope you agree with me. If not, please say. Shrewpelt (talk) 21:09, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Rise of Scourge

Under the manga section, the rise of scourge, it says one manga will be about Scourge. But all the other mangas are in trilogies. It doesn't seem right. Does Scourge have a trilogy, or is it just a single book? Epass (talk) 22:05, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I think it is a stand alone manga. Shrewpelt (talk) 13:39, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Actually, I think on one of the AuthorTrackers it said that Scourge was going to have a trilogy. I'm not really sure though, as I deleted the email, but I'll research.  Spottedstripe(Talk2Me) 02:00, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Outcast and Warrior's Return

Why aren't there pages for these? They will come out in April - or some time like that - which is pretty close. Plus, I have the links to their cover pages, to put on the page. Of course, I'm not too skilled at creating new pages. Technobecian (talk) 22:16, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

We don't have pages because not enough info about the books has been released yet to create a new page. Never fear; when the books come out, I'm postive that new articles will be created.  Spottedstripe(Talk2Me) 02:01, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

I just read the 4th Wands & Worlds chat. We now know that, in Outcast, Millie's pregnant, Squirrelflight has Foxpaw as an apprentice, and Brightheart possibly as Icepaw's mentor, Daisy's mate is Spiderleg (uh-oh) and she has a new litter, Jaypaw's future warrior name will be Jayfeather, and there's more that I forgot.

Bramblestorm (talk) 03:47, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

I have typed out on my computer the article for Outcast. Once the book comes out, I'll add the plot summary and the major events section and then put it up. With the plot summary, it should be able to make DYK. It would be very helpful if someone could upload the cover once I make the article. Also, if anyone is going to the Erin Hunter tour in April, please try to take a photo and upload it, because it would be a helpful picture in one section. Thanks! Shrewpelt (talk) 13:32, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
I am now typing out articles as well for Warrior's Return, The Rise of Scourge, Cats of the Clans, Eclipse (Warriors), and Into the Woods (still need to type the last two). However, I'm wondering if these will need to be taken to Deletion Review first. I don't think so, but I thought I'd ask before going ahead. Also, I won't be adding the articles for these books until they are released, so I'll have time to improve them in light of any new info. Thanks! Shrewpelt (talk) 02:07, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
OK, we will need a deletion review for Outcast, but I'd first like to talk with admin who blocked the page from creation. Does anyone know who protected it? Thanks, Shrewpelt (talk) 12:44, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Outcast (Warriors) was put through WP:DRV and was remade. Shrewpelt (talk) 01:26, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Someone needs to update the outcast page. I mean the book came out a few days ago and it still reads like it hasn't come out. Rembrant13 (talk) 19:40, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] warriors

warriors are cool —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.139.156.41 (talk) 12:24, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your support, but this is a Wikipedia article that discusses changes that need to be made to the main article. Please take your chat somewhere else. Thank you!  Spottedstripe(Talk2Me) 11:53, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GAC?

OK, I have been working for several weeks on this article, as well as Moonrise (Warriors), to get them up to scratch. I think they could be nominated as Good Article Candidates, but I want to know what you think of the articles and the idea of nominating them. Thanks! Shrewpelt (talk) 16:35, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I think you should go for it! Somebody's really done a nice job with Moonrise, I think both are worth a try. ~ Bella Swan 13:27, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
I checked the links with the link checker tool - I think they are good. I think the two articles meet standards. Any other comments or concerns? Shrewpelt (talk) 16:38, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
Added some stuff about the Russian translation of Moonrise, as well as adding the front cover image. I'll nominate in a few days. Shrewpelt (talk) 01:01, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

The two articles are nominated. Keep watch on the talk page for future developments. Let's see how this goes... Shrewpelt (talk) 02:11, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cover Of Tigerstar And Sasha: Into The Woods

http://warriorswishs.proboards75.com/index.cgi?board=updates&action=display&thread=1205664667 Should we post it anywhere??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.27.108.99 (talk) 02:39, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, we can only really put it in an article about the book itself, and the book doesn't meet the guidelines for notibility, which means we should not create an article for it. That means that we really have no use for the image at this point. ~ Bella Swan 13:25, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, and I already know where the Cats of Clans cover is too. It shows Windstar, Shadowstar, Thunderstar, and Riverstar on the cover. (Ginger tom, black and white cat, black cat, and a silver/gray one.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.189.25.118 (talk) 20:20, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, unsigned person. I was wondering who those cats were.

Bramblestorm (talk) 11:38, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposals

I am proposing four new things. Comment below.

  1. A Portal dedicated to the Warriors series. I would be willing to update the article. You can see what the portal would look like here.
  2. Articles about the Clans that are Out of Universe. If this is a success, we could create articles on SkyClan, the Tribe, BloodClan, and others. See here for an example of what the article for ThunderClan would look like.
  3. Articles for Secrets of the Clans and the as of yet unreleased books being created. For the later, the creation would not happen until the book was released. As I have already said, I have articles typed out for the books and manga with titles.
  4. The renaming of WikiProject Warriors to WikiProject Erin Hunter to allow coverage of Seekers (novel series) and the individual books the authors have created, like Bloodline (2005 novel). I am only proposing this here because the WikiProject page doesn't get much traffic; if there is intrest in this, I'll move this part of the discussion to the WikiProject Warriors talk page. Shrewpelt (talk) 21:17, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
I really like the last thing, changing it to WikiProject Erin Hunter. That makes more sense than a lot of things I've seen lately... Anyway, yeah, if we all agree on that, I say go for it. Regards,  Spottedstripe(Talk2Me) 11:52, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Portal:Warriors has been created. Shrewpelt (talk) 19:40, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] CATS IN THE SREIS

Shouldnt there be a list of cats

Jnw222 (talk) 20:06, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

They were deleted a while back. Griffenflash (talk) 20:58, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

We need another list. I mean the amount of characters I can't keep track of them all. I went to the Warrior's website and it said that Hazelpaw (Brackenfur and Sorreltail's kid) had died. When did that happen? We need the list back. Rembrant12-not logged in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.10.224.148 (talk) 19:37, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA Failed

This article has failed the GA noms as it seems to be mostly focus on the "in-universe" aspects of the story (see WP:WAF) and has a lack of "out-of-universe" material to make an NPOV article. The article is also a bit disorganized and can greatly benefit from a copyedit. It is otherwise very well sourced and accurate. If you fee that this review was in error, feel free to take it to WP:GA/R. Thanks. Tarret talk 21:54, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I think I have adressed all concerns. I'll nominated soon if there are no concerns. Shrewpelt (talk) 18:07, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
It has been nominated. Shrewpelt (talk) 20:31, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Series Comics

Erin Hunter Came To My School Today And I Asked Her About The Comics! She Said Coming Up Will be The Ravenpaw, Scrouge, and Tigerstar ones But In 2010 They Will Be Realeasing The Comics From The Series (Based On Into The Wild, Fire and Ice, So On...). I Think That Is So Cool! I Can't Wait Till 2010! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pgcool (talk • contribs) 03:07, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Really? There will be ones based on the novels? *sigh* Pretty soon, there will be more manga than there are books. -_- 76.27.108.99 (talk) 03:44, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

That's What She Said... I'm Don't Care So Much If There Are More Mangas Then Books But As Long As The Keep Making The Books i Fine With It xD Pgcool (talk) 04:20, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA review

Okay, let's go through the criteria.

1. ? Reasonably well-written: This article only just squeaks by on this one. This is an article on a series of children's books, but some of the sentence structure is very complex: "Warriors is a series of fiction novels written by , under the pen name Erin Hunter" - Better to say something like "Warriors is a series of children's novels written under the pen name Erin Hunter, detailing the lives of various clans of wild cats. Writing is split among Kate Cary, Cherith Baldry and their newly recruited third author, Tui Sutherland (who used to be their U.S. editor), using plot ideas by storyline editor Victoria Holmes." I believe there's a project devoted to this; I'd suggest finding a copyeditor, because it's VERY HARD to fix your own writing.
However, that said, I think it's probably good enough for GA, though not FA.
2. Factually accurate, VErifiable: yes.
3. Broad in coverage?: Broad enough.
4. NPOV: Sure.
5. Stable: Eh... good enough. The talk page doesn't appear to be a seething den of insults, anyway.
6. Images: Basically, just means checking you have a fair use rationale and that sort of thing. You do.

The writing concerns are minor and only crop up at a couple points, everything else is fine. Hence, I am promoting this to GA. Good job! Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 10:38, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia Sections

Whoever keeps adding the sections that say something like 'apprentices made:...' of whatever, they are trivia, and unimportant detail. These are the kind of things that got the articles nominated for deletion in the first place. So, can we please stop readding them to the articles? ~ Bella Swan? 00:38, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List of characters in the Warriors novel series

The List of characters in the Warriors novel series page is sitting without references on my watchlist, and I'd rather not see someone come by and tag it with a PROD or something like that. Could someone go over and put some primary source references on it, from the books? I'm pretty sure that's all it'd need, being a page split off of this. Cheers, guys! --lifebaka (Talk - Contribs) 15:29, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Excellent point. I've referenced all the characters to their respective books. Hope that helps. ~ Bella Swan? 22:59, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. It looks good to me. Happy editing! --lifebaka (Talk - Contribs) 03:09, 2 June 2008 (UTC)