Talk:Warren Township High School
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[edit] Referendum
Warren High School tried again to pass the Referendum the following year, in 2004 and it worked, the school is now out of the red and funding for a new football stadium.
This entry reads too much like a newspaper article than an encyclopedia entry.
[edit] Propose a Rewrite
Agree with the above, this site needs to be completely rewritten. Much of the information is questionably noteworthy to be included in an encyclopedia article, very recent, and prone to vanadlism. This needs to be reworked with noteable facts and a NPOV. I will look into working on this article, but perhaps someone with more expertise on the subject would be better suited. Thisischris 20:39, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] 2004/2005 financial issues
I don't know enough about the subject to have a useful opinion, but there seems to be a slow edit war over the inclusion or removal of the information about the 2004/2005 financial issues the school had. [1] If this is a legitimate content dispute (eg. over verifiability or neutrality), I'd like the individuals involved to discuss here the reasons for including it or removing it. If there's not a good reason for removing the information, that would be good to note as well, in case Wikipedia regulars should take extra steps. --Interiot 22:11, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
My name is Rick Bryan. I originally added the information about financial scandal and school report card. Both topics have been repeatedly deleted. The relevance of report card data seems to be beyond debate. The Wikipedia article has a template which is used by several high schools in the area. Many if not all of the high schools include report card data.
The huge financial scandal is beyond factual debate. I can provide well over 100 newspaper articles. The depth of the accounting problems is detailed in a special auditor's report commissioned by the school itself. This leads to the question of relevancy. Could a balanced enclopedia article about Bill Clinton omit mention of the impeachment? The Warren article is balanced only if the financial scandal and report card information are included along with the many positive features of the high school. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.8.43.78 (talk • contribs) 67.8.43.78 01:04, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
I removed the link to www.5-25-77.com since this isn't noteworthy to Warren Township High School (the site advertises a film that takes place in Wadsworth, IL USA, a neighboring village of Gurnee, IL where WTHS is located)
SERIOUSLY? in the movie there is actual film of the school and a foot ball game with the band
to add to the discussion over the finiancial issues i think that if cuts need to be made then they should come from the overexpansive sports programs and not the already tight band program
I agree. Being a current member of the top band at warren and a current member of a sports team, band is just as important. Our band program competes with the best and provides young musicians with a great high school band experience. Our sports teams though they are good, are not nearly as consistent and the bands. Warren doesn not only provide a strong marching band but one of the best in state jazz band and a just as good concert bands. Even it out, they both provide inriching experiences for students. I also think that peopel should post true positive statements about the school. Speaking of the band and sports programs. The Warren Marchign Blue devils have been a finalist at state 10 out of the past 12 years. The sports program is fenominal also. Warren, like every school has good and bad aspects, so share both sides.And with the Curtis Heitt deal, does the person who wrote that about him actually go to warren right now and personally know Curtis or the two other girls? Or is it news based? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.13.150.44 (talk) 03:00, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Massive changes were unfairly made on November 20 and 21. Dozens of changes were made by one individual without explanation. Factual documentation was ignored. The collaborative effort of many was destroyed by one person without even an explanation. A multi-dimensional article was changed into an institutional P.R. piece. -- Rick Bryan, retired teacher Retired teacher (talk) 15:27, 24 November 2007 (UTC)Retired teacher (talk) 18:25, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Here is the explanation of the changes made from November 20 and 21: I am adding information that is unbiased based upon statistics from the state. I am getting rid of information that does not further explain the school but rather casts it clearly in a biased light from the viewpoint of a disgruntled former teacher. I am also furthering the information to put it more in line with what other school sites from Illinois look like. I have added numerous citations and will continue to do so. It will then look less like a newspaper and more like an encyclopedia source, which is what this is supposed to be. As I add to the site, it will show simply history and statistics that are supplied by unbiased, 3rd party sources, which is good scholarship. If enemies of the school--strange as that idea is--would like to discuss this further, I would be more than open to debate. Also note that the "massive" changes were in line with Wikipedia criteria, including an editor's notes from earlier. I hope that the earlier editor continues to patrol this site to keep from allowing the entry to turn into a personal soapbox for angry former teachers.
And why would they not be angry when someone who is supposed to be a leader of the school spends funds on SHIRT TIES and PORNO DVDs!! In order to be UNBIASED, you most allow both the good and bad traits. - BIKRTC
Jason Baker Current Teacher Union Grievance Chair —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arnmaker (talk • contribs) 03:51, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Jason Baker is certainly correct that scholarship and neutral sources are admirable goals. However, personal attack and name-calling are incongrous with scholarship. Ideally, encyclopedic entries do focus on important issues. That being said, controversy requires exposure to more than one side.
Rick Bryan Retired teacher
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Warrenhslogo.gif
Image:Warrenhslogo.gif is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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BetacommandBot 04:41, 20 July 2007 (UTC) needs an up date it is now 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.128.129.112 (talk) 04:57, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
