Talk:Warren Sapp

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Contents 1 Personal 2 Encyclopedia?? 3 Mike Sherman confrontation 4 The Ejection 5 "most regarded"? Meaningless, and not supported by citation

[edit] Personal

"Ironically, Dunn and Sapp would be on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers together several years later." No. Bad editors. Bad! No cookie for you. Repeat after me: "There is nothing ironic about two college football players from different schools ending up on the same team in the NFL." Got that? Nothing. I don't care if they played against each other, if they were on tv, or if a clip of them playing against each other ended up as part of a college football game. Still nothing ironic about it. It's perhaps, at most, a mildly interesting coincidence, but certainly nothing worth mentioning. Jbramley 20:41, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Encyclopedia??

"Sapp is known for his intense and aggressive defensive play, his swift and powerful tackling, and (when periodically substituted on offense) his ability to cast aside multiple defenders with ease." Ummm, did Warren Sapp write this line? It has no place in an encyclopedia article... Needs a REWRITE Andrew Grigg 03:16, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mike Sherman confrontation

I have twice before added details to this section, only to see them deleted. I've added them again, but please indicate why they should be deleted should someone want to this time. Cheers. 208.178.18.134 16:24, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

I've also edited the narrative of the hit. The article stated that Sapp's hit caused the other player to fall, and that the fall caused the injury. In each of the sources cited on the page, however, the hit is reported as the cause of his injury (that an awkward fall caused it is clearly an unlikely case). I've changed the description until someone can show that it was not Sapp's hit that caused the pelvic injury. 208.178.18.134 20:17, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The Ejection

What really happened today when Sapp got 3 flags against him vs. Jacksonville Jaguars? 202.180.119.61 (talk) 08:57, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

I've added a small section about this event under "Controversies". The link is to a San Francisco Chronicle web article that explains what occurred. Basically the linesman assumed that a Jax penalty would be declined, resulting in loss of down; Sapp preferred to accept the penalty and push the Jags out of field goal range, and as the defensive captain he was allowed to do so. However, while he was communicating about this with the refs he earned 3 unsportsmanlike conduct penalties and an ejection; the refs seemed to feel he was out of line.67.170.212.250 (talk) 11:41, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, the replays that I saw didn't show anything at all, the video just started when the first yellow flag was thrown, and the official was announcing the unsportsmanlike conduct against "No. 89", when he meant 99. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.180.119.61 (talk) 09:14, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "most regarded"? Meaningless, and not supported by citation

The article currently reads, in part:

Sapp is known for his intense and aggressive defensive plays, and is one of the most regarded defensive lineman of his generation.[1]

I have two objections to this sentence. First, it doesn't say how he's regarded. Did the original writer mean "most well-regarded"? It's no distinction simply to be looked at, especially when your job requires you to be on TV.

Second, the cited article is an ESPN piece that says Sapp claims people have tried to poison him when he eats out, and quotes league officials to the effect that that's a bizarre claim. No mention of intensity, aggression, or regard.

For now, I'm dropping the senseless second clause, moving the "Sapp claims he was poisoned" info (with citation) to the "personal" section, and adding a "citation needed" to the surviving "intense and aggressive" claims. 24.30.107.102 (talk) 23:47, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Funny, I was right in the middle of updating that sentence about the moment you typed this. See if you like my contribution better. 67.170.212.250 (talk) 23:52, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree. {{SUBST:Steelerfan-94/Signature}} 22:56, 8 February 2008 (UTC).