Talk:Warren Ellis

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography. For more information, visit the project page.
Biography Portal
Start This article has been rated as start-Class on the project's quality scale. [FAQ]
This article is supported by the Arts and Entertainment work group.
WikiProject Comics
comics
Portal
This article is in the scope of WikiProject Comics, a collaborative effort to build an encyclopedic guide to comics on Wikipedia. Get involved! Help with current tasks, visit the notice board, edit the attached article or discuss it at the project talk page.
Start This article has been rated as Start-Class on the quality scale. Please explain the rating here.
Mid This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the importance scale.

Contents

[edit] Web presence

Somebody who knows what they're doing more than I do might wanna put something up on his massive web-presence.

Trench 19:27, 26 September 2005 (UTC) Warren has just posted a roundup of his current web projects. http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=1254

[edit] Armstrong

What does Neil Armstrong have to do with anything in this article? --168.122.229.59 21:25, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

I moved it to trivia Dyslexic agnostic 22:14, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Writings about Ellis

This section seems intersting but completely vague and un-encyclopaedic. I'm in no position to improve it, but I'd like to see it devloped with citations, quotes, etc, if a more capable person could see their way to having a go?

e.g. "Much has been written about Ellis' work by other writers" - what has been writen?
"The tone and subject matter of his work has changed since his early stories." - How has it changed?
"Ellis' work has also been the focus of a number of academic articles and dissertations." - Which ones, where?
tmimh 19:59, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

-- This is not a helpful section.

Probably should be deleted. Poor quality.

Deleting this section -- 21 Nov 06.

[edit] Warren Ellis Holy Slut Army

This deserves a write-up as well.

[edit] Interviews

I clicked on the link to the interview on wotmania.com and it lead to a strange discussion that appears to have nothing to do with Warren Ellis. Wotmania.com is a site devoted to the Wheel of Time fantasy book series which, as far as I know, Warren Ellis has nothing to do with. So I doubt they would be interviewing him anyway. Does anyone know why this is here?

-- Nobody has responded to this question so I went ahead and deleted the interview link. -- jdvelasc 21:35, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

Adding a bit of very minor trivia... Warren was a friend of Richard Easter, who went on to write for Steve Wright, Chris Tarrant, etc. Funny, how people fall into the same kind of careers QuiteUnusual 21:36, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Links

I think this link was an interesting inclusion and ought not to be removed, but perhaps it can be worked into the article to make it worth including? Scans and details of pre-professional work I didn't add it myself because although I didn't see anything making it something to be avoided, it could maybe fit into copyright infringement or something else I didn't think of. Jseipel 23:38, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nick Cave?

I note that Nick Cave's new band has a bass player called Warren Ellis - is this the same person? BTW I remember Warren from when he used to run the comic shop at the top of the Hammerson Development shopping centre in Southend on Sea many years ago! quercus robur 12:43, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, just looked at the top of the page, obviously it isn't the same person, though it wouldn't have surprised me if it was! quercus robur 12:46, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Birthday

I can understand why the birthday info's been removed, but Ellis seems quite happy to share his birthday with the internet each year, so we wouldn't be including anything that's not already widely known. --Mrph 07:42, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

I have undone the b-day edit. The cited b-day privacy article is not applicable to celebrities, which is stated in the article itself. Plus, it's kind of funny, because the summary right below the deleted b-day has his b-day there as well, yet that was not removed. So it was still in the article. Whoever the remover was, was not too thorough.–m.f (t • c) 15:57, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Planetaryallovertheworld.jpeg

Image:Planetaryallovertheworld.jpeg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot 08:48, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Spelling problem

Ellis from his mailing list, bad signal:

"Wikipedia also continues to spell my name wrong, so, you know, please stop using it like it's a bastion of truth, or, indeed, fucking anything."

Sadly, he fails to disclose his specific concern. He spells his name, "WARREN ELLIS", and the only divergence I see from that is the use of the middle name, "Girade". Do we have a source for the middle name and its spelling that I can go verify? Is there some misspelling of Warren Ellis in this article that I'm missing? -Harmil 00:16, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Must be his middle name. Googling "Girade" [1] gives this this page and a bunch of Final Fantasy XI pages. I'd say remove it and if anyone wants to pit it back in they can source it. (Emperor 00:28, 3 September 2007 (UTC))
And he followed up when I asked further:
Me: Is [your] middle name not "Girade?"
Ellis: Correct.
I've removed the middle name. If we get a source for his real middle name and spelling thereof, let's go ahead and update the article (put the ref on the infobox birth name, please, not the lead paragraph). -Harmil 00:30, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Good work. (Emperor 01:07, 3 September 2007 (UTC))

[edit] "Transhumanist" genre?

'Transhumanism' (or 'extropianism') is far from being a neutral term standing in for science-fiction speculation and concern over technological advances, and it refers in fact pretty much exclusively to a certain understanding of technological advancement as seen through the eyes of self-described 'transhumanist' (or 'extropian') organisations, movements and authors. And, as far as I know, it is not a literary genre.

The three instances where these terms are used in this article (intro, author's box and about At the zoo) appears to me highly suspect, and barring a reliable source of Ellis explicitly referring to his science-fiction works as 'transhumanist' or 'extropian', I would advise in choosing a less loaded vocabulary. After all, I don't see Egan or Sterling's genre or themes described as specifically 'transhumanist', and they certainly match Ellis' speculative forays into the near- or far future.

I will await some days for response to my concern (I will try and contact Ellis for a confirmation), after which time I will proceed in rewording those passages. --Perpmobile (talk) 01:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)