Talk:Warning (album)

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[edit] Suffocate

I added Suffocate to the B-Sides, because it was released on the Warning # 2 Single, although it was recorded earlier, for nimrod.Hammer55 21:34, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Poprocks and Coke

What's the source on Poprocks and Coke being released as a non-LP B-side? I understand Maria was, but I've never heard of another version of Poprocks and Coke.

[edit] Review

I (Kingturtle 05:05, 11 May 2005 (UTC)) don't think they review fits in with the article. Wikipedia is not an album review and wouldn't a review qualify as NPOV becuase a review is someone's opinon? --Saint-Paddy 23:14, 8 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] review

I have moved the following review from the article to TALK. please fix it here before putting it back in the article:

I was never a Green Day fan before I heard this album. To tell you the truth, I had never actually really listened to Green Day before this album. And though Warning: was not received particularly well by the public because of its new approach (described above), this album was the one that got me into Green Day and has turned them into my favorite band of all time.
The title track is a terrific way to begin the album. A terrific melody and great beat you can tap your foot to drives the song forward. "Warning" is all about...well, as the lyrics state, living without warning. Do everything spontaneously, and don't think of the consequences. A great song with a great message.
"Blood, Sex, and Booze" is definitely different from tracks the band has worked with in before. It starts with a woman slapping Billie, yelling "You understand me?" And Billie responding with an, "Aww, shit." It's about kinky stuff...this may be about a time Billie and Adie were in a fight. They're in a fight, and Billie's saying, "Don't make me beg for blood, sex, and booze." In other words, the good things that his wife gives him.
"Church on Sunday" is another cool track with a good beat and cool melody about how Billie Joe Armstrong saved his marriage. "It's a song about when you're in a long term relationship with somebody, you have to keep reinventing it, and it takes a lot of compromise," Billie said in an interview.
"Fashion Victim" is about how everyone in America's brainwashed and will do just about anything - including pay any amount of money - just to fit in.
As mentioned above, Warning drifts away from Green Day's punk roots. "Castaway" is about how many of Billie's punk friends will probably hate him for writing such an album.

[edit] Weasel words

"Many speculated that Green Day had painted themselves into a corner and would be unable to return to punk music. Nonetheless, many fans hold this album in high regard as being creative, experimental, and overall musically successful."

The words "many speculated" are used to justify a personal opinion in the following two sentences. It would be better to quote a specific source that criticises the band and then a source that highly rates the album.

--IslaySolomon 10:25, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Production

I was under the impression that this was the only album NOT produced by Rob Cavallo since 1994, and I am not in the minority with this assumption, but when I went to prove it I found these sources: source one source two Does anyone have any online sources that say that Green Day were the sole producers?--Jude 07:55, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] lowest selling album?

jesus christ this was imo one of their best well all their albums are masterpieces and this didnt stray from that at all wtf? im so shocked

[edit] Colon

According to their official website and the iTunes Store, the album titles are "Warning" and "Nimrod", but Wikipedia has them as "Warning:" and "nimrod.". Shouldn't this be changed? --Muéro(talk/c) 06:09, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

The official names are "Warning:" and "nimrod." though for organisational purposes iTunes uses its own format.--Jude 08:59, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

its Nimrod, not nimrod--Greenday21 (talk) 15:40, 9 March 2008 (UTC)greenday21

[edit] WARNING IS ALTERNATIVE ROCK!

this album is just Alternative Rock! there are no punksongs on this album! i think you never listened to this record!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.167.250.157 (talk • contribs) 17:07, 16 March 2007

Hello! I'm sorry but changing the genre actually takes a debate and a general consensus. Your edits have been reverted many times now and it's because they are unhelpful to the article. Thank you for taking the issue up here on the talk page, however. Please try to Keep Your Cool, though. Please do not change the genre on the article until you have more support in this area. Your vote counts as one against the current consensus. Please be patient!--JUDE talk 22:20, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

man!! american idiot this is a pop punk record and dookie is poppunk but warning is not a punk record!!!! there is no punk! its just pop rock or pop!!! so say why is it a punkrock/alternative rock record why?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.167.239.105 (talk • contribs) 21:44, 23 March 2007

The main reason that the genres are listed as such is because of their performance on the Alt. Rock charts. I can list a few songs that have punk rock influence on Warning:. The only compromise I'm willing to make is that it be changed from "Punk Rock" to "Pop Punk" however *never* Pop Rock or "Power Pop" which I've never even come across, to be honest.--JUDE talk 03:38, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


The song warning is not a pop punk song! this song is playing with a acoustic guitar! there is no e-guitar!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.167.220.117 (talk • contribs) 20:45, 26 March 2007

please see my response here--JUDE talk 05:01, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Chill out dude. Just cause a band does one ska song doesn't make them ska. The majority of Green Day's work and the majority of warning falls under the pop-punk genre listing. pop-punk as in powerchords, youthful vocals, and less dire lyricism than most punk. Although I do think the article needs to make some mention of the obvious crossing over in to folk punk on many of the songs. In fact, I'd say the album fits in at about 60% pop-punk and 40% folk punk. Will edit to reflect.


Its just a pop rock/pop record! its not pop punk or folk punk! there are no punk influences


pop punk, punk rock and alternative rock (maybe folk punk as well). definitely not power pop. cute is what we aim for is described as power pop on wikipedia and green day is nothing like cute is what we aim for. listen to the rest of green day's albums. ▓░ Dark Devil ░▓ ( Talk ♥ Contribs ) 01:34, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

WTF are all of you talking about? Green Day is PUNK ROCK.--Greenday21 (talk) 15:42, 9 March 2008 (UTC)Greenday21

[edit] Protected

Edit warring is very disruptive -- see WP:3RR among others -- and can result in blocks being issued. In this situation, however, one party is using a number of IP addresses to revert back and forth; we could block those addresses, but doing so is a bit clumsy and will probably affect multiple people. As an alternative, I've semi-protected this page for a week. Please discuss the article and develop consensus as to which page version is best; it's really easier, and saves time for everybody involved. I'm acting as an administrator, in this case, and should avoid taking any particular stand as to the content of the article, but may take steps to encourage the dispute resolution process. Thanks, and best wishes. – Luna Santin (talk) 18:53, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Genre Dispute

There currently is a dispute as to what genre Warning: is to be considered.

Please leave your opinion here. Currently as it stands, Warning: is listed as Punk Rock, Alternative Rock, and Folk punk.

My vote is that Warning: be considered Folk punk, Pop Punk, Alternative Rock, and/or Punk Rock. Please be sure to use the wikipedia related link for your genre vote as to eliminate confusion and made up genres. Thank you very much for your time.--JUDE talk 20:23, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!! i just laugh you out!! OH MY GOOOOOOOOD!!!! FOLK PUNK/PUNKROCK!! NEVER WARNING!!!! ASK SOMEONE ELSE!! THIS IS NEVER A PUNK RECORD!!LOL —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.93.144.65 (talk • contribs) at 16:16, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

If it's not Punk Rock, could you suggest a genre? I know that you find this amusing, but we need to get this over and done with.--JUDE talk 18:22, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

please listen first to this album before you change the music style —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.93.144.66 (talk • contribs) at 14:03, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, sir, however I have listened to this album for the full seven years that it's been out. I'm not arguing with you anymore. You do not listen to my argument, and you do not state yours in a manner in which I can understand. I'm just going to keep reverting your edits, and if I get banned, no big deal.--JUDE talk 18:46, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

"Folk punk" is way too specific and no one uses that term. I think we should just stick with "Alternative and Punk" for all Green Day stuff, though I think Warning is less punkish than the others. Randomfrenchie 21:57, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

I stand that Warning was alternative punk rock but those three terms should be lumped together. --St.daniel talk 11:54, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Title

There are very few instances I can find where the colon is included in the title of the album. Green Day's official site does not include the colon in the title just as they do not typecase the previous album as nimrod. (which has recently been changed here on wiki back to Nimrod.) On the website www.greendayauthority.com, by far the largest Green Day fan site and one that is more comprehensive than the band's own site, Nimrod is spelled as nimrod. yet Warning is still simply the title alone, with no colon at the end. I realize that on the cover of the album and of every single released from the album, it says Warning:, but the same goes for Nimrod as nimrod., so i think some standard must be set. For as long as Nimrod remains as such, I feel that Warning should certainly not have the colon included. In general, however, I think Wikipedia articles need to stop assuming that because an album title is typeset a particular way on the album cover that it necessarily means that is how the title must always be spelled, because it is complete nonsense. For example, the band Weezer's name is spelled in all lowercase on every album they have ever released, and yet the band name is never taken as necessarily always lowercase. Also, the single for "Warning" also uses the colon on the cover, yet the song is never spelled with the colon elsewhere, even in the tracklisting. Ringer7 04:02, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

As far as I know, a rule on Wikipedia says that the title of an article should be the name under which the entity is most notable. This is, as you stated, Warning, not Warning:. I do think however, that it should be mentioned in the article, so I have added a sentence to the intro. - Face 19:57, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
There is no need for either the "." in Nimrod or the ":" in Warning. These are simply for stylistic and artistic reasons, and have no bearing on the actual name of the album. (Think, do you say "Warning" any different to "Warning:").Nouse4aname (talk) 13:12, 31 December 2007 (UTC)