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[edit] Warden Reversed

Warden has been "somewhat" reversed. See the topic on Valhalla Legends' forum for further reference: http://forum.valhallalegends.com/index.php?topic=17356.0 This wikipedia article needs updating. --FrOzeN (talk) 12:03, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

It's good information, but it's pretty near the sharp edge and hasn't received much coverage yet. The key thing about WP is the need for third-party reliable sources. In this case this means that once the work has been verified by either news outlets, security researchers or other similar sources in an article or peer review, it can go in the article. Hope this helps.Gazimoff (talk) 13:13, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
Ah, ok. The implementation at the moment is still temporary, but works (for StarCraft). For those readers (namely, with programming skills) that are interested in digging further into warden, then the Bot Development board and Skull Security's Warden page should contain the latest public information regarding the inner workings of Warden. --FrOzeN (talk) 14:23, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Misleading information

Comparing the sony_rootkit secretly included with Sony music CDs to warden is incorrect.

The problem with the Sony music CDs is that the end user was not informed and did not agree to the self-installing root kit that altered the Windows OS to enforce copy protection.

Blizzard (The makers of world of warcraft) makes it 100% clear to the end users that blizzard can and will collect data from the users by means of the WORLD OF WARCRAFT® TERMS OF USE AGREEMENT and WORLD OF WARCRAFT® END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT

See http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.html 14. Acknowledgments

Also see http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/eula.html

You must agree to the TOS and EULA therefore you agree to the presence of warden furthermore every patch update that is made to world of warcraft game software requires the end users to agree to the TOS and EULA before they can use the game software. 209.158.240.19 (talk) 21:02, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] References

Any references for it being in the other 3 games? Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 09:59, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

I put it in there because I have first-hand knowledge of this. Open Starcraft's Battle.snp, Diablo II's D2Client.dll, or Warcraft III's game.dll in Notepad (or a hex editor). Search for the string "WardenClient.cpp". (WoW.exe also has this string.) -- Myria 21:17, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
I believe this issue is now resolved, by implementing the suggestion made by Deco at Wikipedia talk:No original research#Facts verifiable by Wikipedia readers. -- Myria 05:09, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
How about a reference for the XCP work-around? Jkelly 06:32, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
I added various references to some articles I found, but since it's my 1st attempt at Wiki editing, I'd love it if someone went behind me and cleaned up anything that I messed up. 170.98.106.254 01:42, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
I've never actually heard of anyone getting banned in Starcraft.. and most cheats make absolutely no attempt to hide themselves.. Devicenull (talk) 03:06, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Warden Operation

I'm pretty sure that the Blizzard Launcher does NOT run Warden, and have edited the article as such. While it does scan you system, it was designed to gives users a warning before continuing on to logging on, where Warden would then catch them. Nothing is transmitted while using the Launcher, and it can by bypassed if you wish. http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/misc/launcher.html -- GermanShepherd 15:35, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rename to "Warden (software)"

The name Warden has not been publicly acknowledged by Blizzard to be the correct name of the tool.

It has now, but likely by accident.[1] On page 10, line 14, it states:

Blizzard employs a software program called Warden as a technical measure that prevents unauthorized access to WoW and restricts users from loading unauthorized copies of WoW.

Before I make the change, I'd like to make sure there is consensus. Maged123 22:50, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

That appears to be pretty unambiguous. I'm for it. -Toptomcat 17:28, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
Moved. -Maged123 21:28, 6 June 2007 (UTC)