Talk:Walter Wolfgang

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This guy is just a crazy old fool, why is he notable? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.141.29.51 (talk) 20:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

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Although WW has been quoted as heckling "nonsense", apparently he shouted "That's a lie and you know it." My source is the Daily Telegraph, perhaps a surprising one for Labour Party reporting. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/09/29/nlab29.xml&sSheet=/portal/2005/09/29/ixportaltop.html Ringbark 06:53, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Most other sources are still quoting him as just saying "nonsense". Unless/until there is anything firmer, I think both versions should be given. Vilcxjo 14:44, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

As Vice-President of CND, etc, WW probably merited a WP entry even before this incident. Can anyone supply information about his activism prior to 28/9/05, also basic biographical stuff like date & place of birth? Vilcxjo 17:00, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

I'm happy to oblige. David | Talk 20:32, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Non-notable? 2 Picture 3 What's OAP? 4 Nonsense!

[edit] Non-notable?

Are we sure this guy is notable? do we really want to list all past presidents of CND?. I wonder if this is just Wikipedia:Recentism, i.e., it made the newspapers so people dutifully compieled non-notable facts into an wikipedia article. MPS 21:17, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

I see absolutely no reason not to. CND is a notable organisation - David Gerard 22:00, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

I Think Wolfgang is notable for two reasons

[A] His aresst under the terrosim act was a misuse of the bill, one of many. This will be significant in the future and it is important such misuses are documented.

[B]If his campain to get on the national executive of the labour party is successful it will be very significant due to his far left-wing views.

If there had been any doubt about it, I think Dbiv's edits (good material, thanks for that) probably put the question to rest. Vilcxjo 22:12, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Picture

That picture has a Reuters copyright on it and has to go. Anyone find a potential replacement? David | Talk 21:18, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

There's a nice picture of WW on this page at The Labour CND Website. They're socialists, after all - ask and ye shall receive. Griffin147 P.S. - I've never had an article I've started attract so much attention (or rehashing!)- great stuff, and thank you Times Online!

That was good wasn't it? I've also nominated this article for Do You Know? so it might appear on the Main page soon. David | Talk 00:23, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] What's OAP?

The Times headline refers to "OAP". [1] Would someone be so good as to add an explanation of this term to the article, for the benefit of us Colonials? JamesMLane 10:01, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Old Age Pensioner - literally someone in receipt of the state retirement pension, hence a male over 65 or a female over 60 (the age for females will eventually rise to 65 too). - Londoneye 10:31, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Nonsense!

I just added an extra line about the fact that he could've been charged under the Protection from Harassment Act if he had repeated "nonsense" twice. I hope everyone agrees that its relevant Bmathew 04:26, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I really think such a possibility is incredibly remote, and that you are making a political point. No prosecutor would agree to do this and no judge or jury would agree that such conduct amounted to harassment under this legislation. 80.47.240.58 23:51, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

I wasn't really making a political point, just quoting the Guardian article which is linked. Had Mr Wolfgang said "nonsense" twice during the foreign secretary's speech, the police could have charged him under the Protection from Harassment Act 1997. Bmathew 07:30, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

I should have thought the brief resume of Walter's life shows he is notable. He has dedicated his life to working for peace and trying to make this a better world since before Blair & co. were even born. The gentlest of men, this violent physical assault in return for a peaceful protest is nothing short of disgraceful. If politician's cannot take heckling, I suggest they get out of politics. Heckling is an old tradition in politics in this country. Trying to silence someone who disagrees before he can say very much smacks of the fascism Walter Wolfgang's family were forced to flee. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rudieva (talk • contribs) 15:00, 13 September 2006.