Talk:Walid Phares

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We're watching the Jihadi cyber subversion

I an avid reader of Wikipedia and follow the war on terror closely. I have noted that the same group of cyber militants keep changing the entries about Professor Walid Phares on Wikipedia and insert insults to him and to his exertise. Instead of writing comments and his analysis, these Cyber-bandits keep trying to insert stupid sentences such as "deputy commander of a militia, and ally of Ariel Sharon etc., and all that nonsense." Not only they fool no one who knows about this author worldwide, but they perform their piracy with absolute idiocy. They could simply state that they do not agree with particular or all points. Instead, as retarded teen agers online, they insert these adjectives, only found among the members of Jihadi groups and gangs. And by the way, since they've posted similar stuff on other web sites and attacked other prominent scholars, they should know that their identities are now known and linked to Terrorism.

For example, the "pen" that started on internet the idiocy that Phares, an author, lawyer and writer, was a "deputy comander of a militia," was finally revealed: Al Qaida linked member Ismael Royer, convicted on charges of terrorism in the Virginia Paint Ball network. He is serving a sentence in jail for "forming a Terror cell in the US." Ismael Royer, a former member of the Wahabi lobby, CAIR, has specialized in attacking and bashing the reputation of US experts such as Daniel Pipes, Steve Emerson, etc. He was behind a series of articles he posted on line attacking Phares with gross lies such as "deputy commander" (gosh) and neocon ally of the Likud, and all that crap. Guess what, A US court found Royer guilty of Terrorism.

There are many Jihadis like Ismael Royer who are roaming the net to demonize those experts who are exposing Jihadism and its derivatives. One of their preferred place is Wikipedia. But they need to watch for themselves, for they are too under watch by concerned citizens

Jad Abdallah Jihad Watch Volunteer

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I've never edited a Wikipedia article before, but I thought the blatant POV in this article needed attention. The whole last section of the biography, starting with "He is well-known for" should probably be removed, but I'm reticent to do so myself as this is my first time actually using the edit feature.

I think it is probably self-explanatory as to why that section should be removed. The statement "an advocate of Nazi-esque policies of Genocide towards Muslim Arabs" is obviously over the top and propagandistic. Likewise with "some have called him...". Who has called him? My guess is the last editor himself, as it is not attributed to anyone. Certainly there are legitimate criticisms of Mr. Phares, but shouldn't these be raised in a new section of the article, such as under a Criticism heading, and attributed to real people? I don't know enough about the man to do so myself, but I think this article could use some expansion in that vein. 24.11.123.68 02:07, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

I removed the NPOV boilerplate now that the offending section has been redacted. I still think this article could use some expansion, however. 24.11.123.68 13:44, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Ahem...that should be POV boilerplate. 24.11.123.68 13:46, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

"During the Lebanese Civil War, Phares was the deputy commander of the Lebanese Forces right-wing sectarian Christian militia which allied itself with Israel and was responsible, along with Ariel Sharon, for the Sabra and Shatila massacre."

This really needs sourcing, and the bit about Ariel Sharon is gratuitous. --guanubian 02:46, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

The October 2006 copy of the Atlantic Monthly has an article that is quite critical of Mr. Phares' expertise (Prophetic Justice pg. 82-93 by Amy Waldman). Specifically, the writer claims that "much of his knowledge of Salafism had come from the Internet. He testified that he had never been to Saudi Arabia, Yemen, or Egypt; had never taken a course in the Koran or hadith; and had never been to a Salafi mosque. ... He and the defense experts disagreed about whether taqiya--religiously sanctioned dissimulation--would be practiced by Sunnis ... To prove his point, Phares brandished an article from USA Today about Pakistani men at the Karachi mosque preparing to come to America to blend in as a "sleeper cell". The article, he said, was an example of modern Sunnis practicing taqiya" (86). Further the author of this article claims the article Mr. Phares cited had been discredited as falsified by the author of that article (the reporter, Jack Kelley apparently was let go from USA Today after it was discovered that he falsified accounts, apparently including the article Mr. Phares cites). The damaging point is that the author claims that Mr. Phares was still citing this discredited article this year to support his claims (over a year after this source was discovered to be faulty). I do not know how this could be integrated into the Wikipedia article on Mr. Phares, but I sense it may be important.--152.2.62.69 19:51, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Showing slant

Phares appears to be a mouthpiece for anti-Islamic elements, some might even consider anti-Arab sentiments. Many Palestinian Christians are slanted against Israel (an example would be the Arab Christian initiated divestment policy in the Anglican Church) yet he remains vehemently pro-Israel (even some Israelis are not as pro-Israeli as he is). I think the article should make Phares' stance clear on major issues so people don't swallow his tripe which is everywhere, on all the major networks. He is critical of the more liberal Arab media, Al Jazirah, but he doesn't apply the same criteria towards American media. I'm surprised he teaches religion and Middle Eastern studies. 69.199.85.72 08:19, 6 October 2006 (UTC)


I KNOW HIM!!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE HE'S GOT AN ARTICLE!!!!!! HE LIVES IN BOCA I KNOW HIS SON AND FIANCEE TOO!!!!