Talk:Wake Up (Hilary Duff song)

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The article was full of errors about the song getting to #4 in the U.S.—as one can see here [1], that's way off the mark. It did get to #4 on the Hot Digital Songs chart, so that may be where the confusion is from. Everyking 16:14, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unsourced chart positions

I've removed these from the article; hopefully somebody can cite them:

#6 Israel, #9 Spain, #29 Canada (from the infobox)

Chart (2005)	Peak position
Italy Top 50 Singles	2
Mexican Singles Top 100	13

Thanks. Extraordinary Machine 19:06, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] UK Cover Arts Removed

This could of at least been mentioned here, but instead I get personal attacks about small mistakes like 'capital letters' which even wikipedia says in the policies that it doesn't matter if you make spelling mistakes, they can easily be fixed by another user.

Thanks, Jessica_simpson121

[edit] Chart info

EM just removed some chart info [2] saying that it was being excluded to reduce the amount of detail in the article. This is very counter-productive. Chart info is notable and should be covered to the extent that it can be referenced. In the past, he has removed chart info on the grounds that it can't be verified, which is acceptable, but removing content from an article based simply on one's own idiosyncratic ideas about how much a reader wants to know (or needs to know?) is not acceptable. Everyking 01:53, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

A consensus has been established that not all verifiable chart information is notable and should be included; see Wikipedia:Record charts and its discussion page. I've added a bit more detail on the single's chart performance in the UK and Australia, because they seem to be major music markets. Extraordinary Machine 17:27, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

I'll agree that all chart info need not be considered notable. The week-to-week movements of a song below a certain level on the chart (top 20, top 40, etc.) don't necessarily need to be included. This is, however, not something that backs up your argument; the particular information you removed was sufficiently notable for inclusion, regardless of whether or not things less notable than that should be included. Everyking 11:43, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Here's the comparison:

"In Sweden, the song debuted at 45 and remained on the chart for one week. In Austria, the song debuted at 60 and climbed up to 45 the next week. It remained at 45 for 2 weeks, before falling off the countdown. The song debuted at 31 on the Swiss Singles chart but did not rise and continued to drop for 13 weeks before falling off. It peaked at 5 in Norway, 3 weeks after its debut at 9. The song spent 2 weeks on its peak in the Netherlands, at 38. In other parts of Europe such as Germany the song did not do very well and peaked at 81. However, the song lasted for a long time on many charts such as the French charts, where it charted for 19 weeks." (old version)

"In Norway it reached the top five, but it peaked outside the top twenty in the France (where it remained on the chart for nineteen weeks), Switzerland and the Netherlands, and it did not reach the top forty in Sweden, Austria or Germany." (EM version)

What existed previously was one single paragraph explaining the song's performance in continental Europe. Most of the countries only get one sentence; one of them gets two sentences. You feel this is too much? This is all we have for the song's performance in all of continental Europe! We already have the peak positions in a chart; the text is useful for conveying information about where the song debuted, how long it lasted on the chart, and what sort of pattern it showed across the weeks. Everyking 11:57, 20 December 2006 (UTC)