Talk:WAGM-TV

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[edit] LOGOS AND MORE

What we need now somehow is a collection of old logos and slogans and screenshots taken of WAGM from 1965-now. This could be almost impossible to do, but it would show the reader the history of WAGM, the differences in the set, news style, logos, and even people. Tell me what you think benwnn92@aim.com

Would be impossible to do people. The station changes anchors on a regrular basis, due to the market being a "starter market" for young reporters/anchors. The names that have stayed the same, however, are Jon Gulliver (co-anchor Evening Edition/News Director) and Rene [Rainy] Clukey (Sports anchor/sports director) Sue Bernard was at the station for 20 years and left in 2001. She was replaced by co-anchor Cindy McGinnis who came from Global Television in Halifax. In 2005 McGinnis was replaced with new and current co-anchor Katie Graham.

One reporter, Shawn Cunningham, has been at the station for 5 years now, and is an exception to the usual high turn over rate at WAGM.

This would be great if we could find pictures (either past or present). We need tapes of the newscasts then we can get them on the computer.

[edit] Station schedule

TV schedules are not encyclopedic. (see WP:NOT.)

  1. You wouldn't look in Encyclopedia Britannica for a TV schedule.
  2. TV schedules usually only apply to a limited location. Wikipedia is supposed to take a world view.

Please post if you have contrasting arguments. --Fang Aili 22:57, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

You wouldn't look in Britannica for ANYTHING on a TV station though. Local news is one of the main things this station is known for, infact well known due to its small market size. It is relevent and should be included. This is isn't a programming schedule for every single show on the station, JUST news. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Medicinematt (talk • contribs)

This is an encyclopedia. If the station is notable it deserves an article. But if I wanted to know it's schedule, I'd buy a TV magazine (or visit the station's web page). BTW, I can't see a notice on the article that says that it's a news station. And even then, the "many TV station articles do have newscast schedules" summary given by last editor is not an explanation - schedules do not belong here.Misza13 T C 12:11, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

OK, then just go right ahead and delete the schedules at WLBZ, WCSH, WBZ-TV, WCVB, WHDH, WABC-TV, WCBS-TV and WNBC, and that's just what I found in the first 2 minutes. WAGM is not a 24-hour news station like CNN, but it is a general entertainment station and the only local news source in the area (there isn't even a newspaper). Wikipedia:WikiProject Television Stations actually encourages a description of local programming on such a station. There is no reason to single this station out. Kirjtc2 15:50, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm not interested in an edit war, so I won't go to those stations and delete the schedule information. I'm not singling this station out; I think schedule information, wherever it is, is unencyclopedic, period. When I happen to come across it, I usually delete it. I don't know where Wikipedia:WikiProject Television Stations got the idea that such information is encyclopedic. In addition to the points made above, schedules change rapidly, and the maintenance of such schedules (for how many hundreds of stations?) is unnecessary and untenable. --Fang Aili 21:29, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

You're mistaken. These aren't schedules for entire programming line ups, but rather are schedules for newscasts, which change infrequently. The news that is on Wednesday at 6:00 will likely be on at 6:00 five years from now. News at WAGM-TV NEWSSource 8 is an important part of this television station and what it is WIDELY known for across the United States, especially in the broadcast industry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Medicinematt (talk • contribs)

If news broadcasts are an important part of the station's life then I suggest that you finally note that in the article. But hourly schedules don't belong here (this is an ENCYCLOPEDIA - I have one on my shelf and I assure you, you won't find TV schedules there). Neither do I single this station out - this should be put up for a wider discussion and if more people say no, they go. Finally, please sign your posts with "~~~~" in future. Misza13 T C 22:56, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
I'm having trouble following this discussion because I don't know if the deletionists are following Matt's point or not. At first Misza13, for example in the post above, suggests that (s)he understands it, then claims that the article has an "hourly schedule," which it clearly doesn't, and I don't see any way that this schedule or any other creates that impression. (Ironically, it seems like the only real way to make it clearer is to make it more like an hourly schedule - although we should note that other "schedules" have start and end times for newscasts.) One thing I do think needs to be made clear to Fang Aili and Misza13: While you certainly wouldn't see broadcast schedules, be it just for news or for the entire day, in any other encyclopedia, as Medicinematt originally pointed out, you probably also wouldn't find an article about this station at all - Wikipedia is not a paper encyclopedia, which allows it to go into much more complex topics and go much further in depth than any encyclopedia you may have on your bookshelf, even one as exhaustive as Brittanica. Those sorts of encyclopediae, I think, tend to be seen more as minimums for Wikipedia, not as maximums.
That said, I fail to see how news broadcast schedules are encyclopedic, because they usually aren't of much interest to people outside of the area that gets that station, who know it backwards and forwards already. At most, it's more trivia than anything else. However, I wonder if this is the wrong station to pick a battle on this issue, as it's a very compelling counterexample (and the language Matt uses tends to undermine his points and keep the "full broadcast schedule" thing going, because he talks about "general television station" and moves back to the station's importance for news in the same clause), and so most of the discussion on this issue needs to be taken up to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television Stations, where I'm copying it. Morgan Wick 07:48, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Digital subchannels

Does WAGM-TV offer its CBS signal on a digital subchannel, like 8.2? RingtailedFox • Talk • Stalk 20:56, 25 June 2007 (UTC)


According to the WAGM website, yes, the CBS signal is on 8.2. 159.53.110.142 19:02, 6 July 2007 (UTC) Jim True