Talk:W. Edwards Deming

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Some editors of this article would like to bring it up to Featured article status. An action plan is required. Feel free to add to this list and cross out each item when completed. Sunray 22:10, 17 June 2006 (UTC) Refine the format for references and other style issues in line with the MoS done Determine overall format for article and any additional info or sections needed done Edit the entire article to make it more concise and readable. Footnote quotes. Create sub-articles with concise summaries in the main article. Add pictures and other graphics. Devise checklist for good article/featured article status. Evaluate against checklist. Final copyediting and submission.

Contents 1 Archives 2 Article improvements 3 Removed commercial sites 4 Rating and Importance 5 Gingrich

[edit] Archives

• Archive 1

[edit] Article improvements

Some users would like to upgrade this article to become a good article or even a (gasp) Featured article. If you would like to assist in this project, please check the "To do" list (add to it if you think it necessary) and sign on below:

• Sunray 02:51, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
• Leaders100 15:56, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Hummm, that wasn't a big response. It will take longer with only two. Perhaps we plug away and see if anyone will join in. Sunray 18:30, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

• VinceHK 17 August 2006
• crinoidgirl 07 October 2006
• DCDuring 03:23, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed commercial sites

These sites seemed to be links to commercial ventures without adding any biographical detail. I have removed them on this basis.

• Deming Scholars MBA Degree Fordham University MBA course contents, promoting the MBA
• Deming Library Videos Videos for sale
• Summary & reviews The New Economics 2nd Edition 1993. Amazon link duplicating biography section

These sites require subscription and so are not terribly useful for the reader.

• Obituary from Philadelphia Inquirer, Dec. 1993

-- Ashley VH 16:25, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

the Inquirer is free. It should be rsstored. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 05:41, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Just tested the link again and you can only see a preview for free. You can subscribe to a free trial but the link in Wikipedia ought to take you straight to the article. Perhaps you can suggest an alternative link? -- Ashley VH 16:45, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rating and Importance

This article was started in 2002, and still noone has decided how to rate the importance of the subject within the business and economics Wikiproject?? This defies belief. --12:27, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

I think the importance should be determined by the impact Dr. Deming has had on the world, and not on whether or not someone disagrees or likes his philosophies. Landroo 16:18, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

The above paragraph does not appear to parse as a reply to the paragraph above that again. Care to eludicate? Specifically

* Who questions the impact of Dr. Deming?

* Who in this discussion has brought up (dis/)agreements and (dis/)likes with his philosophies?

--18:34, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm kind of new at this, but I've been spending a lot of time on Wikipedia lately, so let me venture an opinion. Perhaps the article is perceived as too close to being a promotional piece for the Deming Institute. It is not really quite NPOV. Is there some way to get some discussion of criticisms of something about Deming's work? It would make it seem a bit more "balanced". IMHO, the article is strikingly better than most of the other articles on quality. (Some exceptions: Shewhat, SPC) Perhaps it would be good to spend a little effort on bringing some of the weaker ones up closer to standard and including references to as many of them as would be consistent with a good article. I'm going to wait a few weeks and ask about the evaluation process, unless the weight of opinion is against. DCDuring 03:29, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

The importance of a person is entirely independent of the quality of any article about this person. Adding a criticism section just for the sake of bringing in a perceived neutrality is kindest described as a novel form of wikipedia related political correctness. For instance the Cyberpunk article has such a section that simply had to be taken out to be shot. All in all I think it would be more productive if you itemised the instances of weaknesses you find and then we can hammer it out here. --12:20, 12 January 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.164.177.149 (talk)

[edit] Gingrich

Newt Gingrich considered himself a pupil of Deming and borrows many of his ideas, as evidenced in "To Renew America" JFW | T@lk 08:39, 16 March 2008 (UTC)