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[edit] Cancelled
Yes, this station's license was cancelled in 2004, almost two years before this article was first started. Either it's still on the air (illegally), or someone really liked the station. Just so you know, finding this station's entry in the FCC's database is not an easy task. You must download the entire database, and search through the old applications to find this station. AlexDW 19:38, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
- I spoke with the local manager of W10BM, and he said the station was on the air. The lack of license stems from problems with the FCC's database. I believe this station to still be operating under special temporary authority. AlexDW 18:11, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
- Well, the article makes claim to legitimacy under USC Title 47 § 308.6(a). Strangely enough, this part of the code doesn't exist,( rebuttal YES it does look it up the amendment has not been recinded ) at least not currently. There is a relevant paragraph in § 308 that references national emergency, but this refers only to licensees whose presence on the air actively contributes to the war effort (which I somehow doubt is the case with W10BM). Therefore, I belive that any claims along these lines are dubious, at best... W10BM is a pirate broadcaster, pure and simple. --AlexDW 12:16, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
- There are really numerous national emergencies that have never been recinded. I personally have spend untold hours verifing this in law libraries. See also the 1925 opATTY general refering to the commander in chief of the army and navy and the flag acutriments. In any event this is a poor area of rural eastern kentucky and the station has had millions of dollars in economic impact and for anyone to interfere with that to favor the rediculously hugh establishment corporations controlling and swaying public opinion is like swatting a humming bird with a flyswat just to show off. YOU HAVE NO CHARITY OR COMPASSION OR DIRECT KNOWLEDGE OF THE SITUATION. Get off our back. The page was not created withe anyone's permission. -- 209.209.140.20[1]
- None of this is relevant to the fact that "you" are broadcasting illegally. Instead of spending "untold hours" in law libraries trying to find a "loophole" to justify broadcasting without a license, why not just apply for a new license ((HOw much money do you think it takes to get even a small FM station license??) . Actually being licensed is not an undue hardship for a television station, and if the FCC was willing to grant licenses to one organization for nearly half-a-dozen stations in one small area in the past, they should be more than willing to do it again. As for the Morehead area being a "poor area of rural eastern kentucky", wouldn't that normally preclude "millions of dollars in economic impact"? **over 18yearsFurthermore, I have no special love for "hugh [sic] establishment corporations" — I have written literally hundreds (perhaps thousands) of articles on full- and low-power television stations in the US, and have found that most of them actually manage to get licensed properly. Sure there are a few companies (coughNexstarcough) that can't seem to figure out the licensing process, but those are few and far between, and they certainly don't continue broadcasting for years after the expiration of a license, and certainly not without petitioning for special temporary authorities and the like. --AlexDW 12:10, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
- There are really numerous national emergencies that have never been recinded. I personally have spend untold hours verifing this in law libraries. See also the 1925 opATTY general refering to the commander in chief of the army and navy and the flag acutriments. In any event this is a poor area of rural eastern kentucky and the station has had millions of dollars in economic impact and for anyone to interfere with that to favor the rediculously hugh establishment corporations controlling and swaying public opinion is like swatting a humming bird with a flyswat just to show off. YOU HAVE NO CHARITY OR COMPASSION OR DIRECT KNOWLEDGE OF THE SITUATION. Get off our back. The page was not created withe anyone's permission. -- 209.209.140.20[1]
- Well, the article makes claim to legitimacy under USC Title 47 § 308.6(a). Strangely enough, this part of the code doesn't exist,( rebuttal YES it does look it up the amendment has not been recinded ) at least not currently. There is a relevant paragraph in § 308 that references national emergency, but this refers only to licensees whose presence on the air actively contributes to the war effort (which I somehow doubt is the case with W10BM). Therefore, I belive that any claims along these lines are dubious, at best... W10BM is a pirate broadcaster, pure and simple. --AlexDW 12:16, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
Numerous issues are not known or considered: *A); With reguard to (my) posts: It is not my station to license, just a local one that is few and far between. *perhaps the "owners" want it to go away but cant get rid of the "radicals" politically? *B): apparently you are deliberatly ignorant of all the issues around the impending digital switchover and the auction of unused spectrum mentality, as well as the comming digital translator applications to get full power stations into areas where a lack of line of site wont allow reception. *C): It could be that the license was cancelled so the station could not be sold? *D): Attempts to steal the licence by former employees durignt he renewal process in 1998? *E): LPTV license program discontinued by FCC ? to facilitate digital transition with fewer interference reports.
- F) How many LPTV will end up sqashed because they cant afford to go digital. *G) True "Pirate" stations never had a license or consede FCC authority (centralised control of communications a plank of the communist manifesto, by the way)
- H)when a ammendment to a law is recinded there is a notes section on that, where has the 308 amend section 6(a) been recinded? (see the notes section of a actual law book you know paper not a online summary) Licenses issues aside National "emergencies" contining for decades or longer don't bother you? Congress even held a committee back n the 70's to address the situations (proc. 7463 is the current one of 9/14/01 )
"In Cipro we trust"?
- haveing seen notices from the FCC on fees owed to these licenses it looks like some buerocratic database screw up that all parties are too stuborn to fix. The fees I have seen for just a engineering study for a FM license are around $15,000, TV is bound to be more expensive than that and then folks use consultants to weed thu all the forms that the FCC demand with fees on top of that. IF the station(s) owners already paid out all the fees for this why do it again and again every time the FCC messes up and sends notices of fees to an old address or whatever?
