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Contents 1 King Vladislaus or Wladislaus (never Ladislaus) 1.1 King Vladislaus I the Short (Władysław I Łokietek) 1.2 King Vladislaus II Jagiello (Władysław II Jagiełło) 1.3 King Vladislaus III of Varna (Władysław III Warneńczyk) 1.4 King Vladislaus IV Vasa (Władysław IV Waza) 2 Wonder about the current, very Polish name of this article 3 Name as it appears in encyclopedias and dictionaries 3.1 Encyclopedias 3.2 Dictionaries 3.3 Other academic reference works 4 Name consensus? 5 Image?

[edit] King Vladislaus or Wladislaus (never Ladislaus)

The king name was Władysław in Polish and was also spelled: Wladislaus (early Latinized version) or Vladislaus (late Latin and English version), never Ladislaus. This shoud be corrected. Below is a sample of original documents sign by the Vladislaus kings. Althout the form Wladislaus was used more often, in my opinion Vladislaus is much better here, beacuse it is more modern version and more English. Vladislaus Rex 00:33, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] King Vladislaus I the Short (Władysław I Łokietek)

• 27.02.1298: Wladislaus Dei gracia, dux Regni Polonie et dominus Pomerania, Cuiavie, Lancicie as Siradie
• 7.03.1298: Wladislaus ...
• 1.09.1999: Wladislaus ...

[edit] King Vladislaus II Jagiello (Władysław II Jagiełło)

• 3.05.1386: Wladislaus Dei gracia rex Polonie Litwanieque princeps supremus et heres Russie etc.
• 30.09.1388: Wladislaus Dei gracia rex Polonie necnon terrarum Cracouie, Sandomirie, Syradia, Lancicie, Cuiauie, Lithuanie princeps supremus, Pomoranie Russieque dominus et heres etc.
• 22.04.1389: Wladislaus ...
• 28.01.1392: Wladislaus ...
• 10.05.1394: Wladislaus ...
• 11.04.1409: Wlodislaus (sic! with o) ...
• 12.12.1410: Wladislaus ...
• 17.07.1416: Wladislaus ...
• 6.09.1422: Wladislavs (sic! with v)...
• 24.06.1425: Wladislaus ...

[edit] King Vladislaus III of Varna (Władysław III Warneńczyk)

• 21.12.1436: Wladislaus Dei gratia rex Polonie Lithwanieque princeps supremus et heres Russie
• 16.12.1438: Wladislaus Tercius Dei gracia rex Polonie necnon terrarum Cracouie, Sandomirie, Syradie, Lancicie, Cuiauie, Lithwanieque princeps supremus, Pomeranie Russie dominus et heres et cetera
• 5.03.1440: Wladislaus Tercius ...
• 5.03.1440: Wladislaus Tercius ...
• 11.06.1443: Wladislaus Dei gracia Hungarie, Polonie, Dalmacie, Croacie etc. rex Litwanieque princes supremus et heres Russie etc.
• 11.06.1443: Wladislaus ...
• 17.04.1444: Wladislaus ...
• 19.04.1444: Wladislaus Dei gracia Polonie, Hungarie, Dalmacie, Croacie etc. rex Lithwaniaque princeps supremus et heres Russie etc.
• 18.08.1444: Wladislaus Dei gracia Polonie, Hungarie, Dalmacie, Croacie etc. tex necnon terrarum Cracouie, Samdomirie, Syradie, Lancicie, Cuyauie, Lithwanie princeps supremus, Pomeranie, Russieque dominus et heres etc.
• 18.08.1444: Wladislaus ...
• 27.08.1444: Wladislaus

[edit] King Vladislaus IV Vasa (Władysław IV Waza)

• 20.02.1633: Vladislaus Quartus Dei gratia rex Poloniae, magnus dux Lithuaniae, Russiae, Prussiae, Masoviae, Samogitiae, Livoniaeque, necnon Suecorum, Gothorum Vandalorumque haereditarius rex, electus magnus dux Moschoviae
• 12.03.1633: Wladislaus Quartus ...
• 14.08.1634: Vladislaus Quartus ...
• 17.03.1637: Vladislaus Quartus ...
• 24.03.1637: Vladislaus Quartus ...
• 7.05.1638: Vladislaus IV ...
• 30.09.1641: Vladislaus Quartus ...
• 24.03.1646: Vladislaus Quartus ...
• 16.05.1646: Vladislaus Quartus ...
• 16.05.1646: Vladislaus Quartus ...
• 1.09.1647: Vladislaus Quartus ...

[edit] Wonder about the current, very Polish name of this article

This guy, Vladislaus III of Varna is also monarch of Hungary. Not only of Poland. Currently, this article resides under Władysław III of Varna. I cannot see why a king of Hungary should have a Polish spelling in en-Wiki, when there are more neutral alternatives such as "Vladislas" available, neither Polish nor Hungarian. A different issue altogether is which of his two realms is the "higher title" or "more important kingdom" meant in Wikipedia naming conventions. However, this cannot continue under that Polish variant of the first name, and with all those diacritical letters (not welcome to Hungarians nor to English-speakers) which are not easy to link to. Marrtel 22:13, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Please join the discussion at for example Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (names and titles) Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Polish rulers) aaaaand enjoy. Szopen 07:22, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name as it appears in encyclopedias and dictionaries

Here's how this monarch is listed in the reference works which I have easy access to. If anyone has more to add to the list, please feel free! --Elonka 20:39, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Encyclopedias

• Władysław III (1979 Encyclopedia Britannica)
• Wladyslaw III Warnenczyk (Online Britannica) [1]
• Ladislaus III, king of Poland (Online Columbia) [2]
• Władysław III (Encarta) [3]

[edit] Dictionaries

• Wladyslaw III (Warnenczyk), Sokol's Polish Biographical Dictionary

[edit] Other academic reference works

• King Władysław III, Poland, an Illustrated History, Pogonowski
• Władysław III of Varna, King of Poland, A Concise History of Poland

[edit] Name consensus?

Whatever name is decided on, can someone at least make the page title and bolded name in the first sentence agree? I don't care to pick the wrong one and get people complaining about it, so someone with a bit more of an understanding of it, fix it please? -Bbik 05:57, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image?

That image (bearded king) should be removed. No way the king looked that way. He died at 20, so... it is for sure a later not realistic image. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.212.224.248 (talk) 15:18, 22 February 2008 (UTC)