Talk:VR Group

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Am I right in thinking that the company is now only known as VR, and that Valtionrautatiet is obsolete? Arwel 11:00 1 Jun 2003 (UTC)

You are. VR's former full name of Valtionrautatiet (= State Railways) was replaced by VR (no longer standing for anything but itself) either in 1990 (when the railways ceased to be a civil service department) or in 1995 (when the public enterprise formed five years earlier became a state-owned limited-liability company). Probably the latter, as I recall we received a communication at work from VR about 10 years ago asking us not to use the term Valtionrautatiet any more in our references to the company. -- Picapica 13:10, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Translation Troubles

This page, like the SJ AB page contains a mistranslation. Both the VR (Finland) and SJ (Sweden) are translated as some variant of "State's Railway."

Split the compound word (common in Finnish) Valtionrautatiet into its two halves.

Valtion- : State's (valtio = state, -n (ending) is the possessive case in Finnish)

-rautatiet: The Railway (rautatie = railway, -t (ending) is essentially "the" in Finnish)

The -t ending here stands for plural though. Rautatie = railway, rautatiet = railways. - Kjet 06:36, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Small changes

I added the notion that the international trains to Russia, the Sibelius, Repin and Tolstoi, are passenger traffic, in order to avoid confusion with freight traffic. Furthermore, added a little information about freight traffic between Finland and Russia, and added an external link to VR Cargo, which company handles the domestic freight traffic in Finland.

I think someone could add an entire section (or article) about the freight traffic, since freight is a significant source of income for the VR Group.

Also, I think that this article focuses too much on the Pendolino. It is true that the Pendolino is the current flagship of VR, but as of now, the article says nothing about the Intercity services. This gives not a very balanced picture about VR operations, in my opinion. The chapter "Pendolino Routes" could be removed altogether, since this information is interesting only for the rail enthusiast, and is obtainable from the VR Internet site. Instead, one could simply mention the length of the track net and total number of destinations where the Pendolino currently operates.

-Didi7 19:00, 15 November 2006 (UTC)