Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Paul carpenter
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This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was KEEP as rewritten by User:Uncle G. I'm changing it into a disambig page. — JIP | Talk 04:35, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Paul carpenter
Sorry, I can't find any verifiable evidence that this person is notable. The claims of "several full length feature films" might do the job, if they were actually released by a legitimate moviemaker, but they aren't named here, and IMDB can't find any sign of them. The rest of the named activities are definitely not encyclopedic. CDC (talk) 20:30, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
Keep. Wikipedia shouldn't be in the business of certifying moviemakers as legitimate. But, the article needs sources. Sdedeo 20:35, 26 August 2005 (UTC)(see below)- Maybe I should have said notable moviemaker. That was a hypothetical point anyway - the main problem with this article is that I can't find any evidence of these movies - maybe I'm missing something. This article looks like self-promotion. CDC (talk) 20:44, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
- Hi CDC, yes, it looks like you're right. There is a famous actor called Paul Carpenter, but his latest movie credit was before this guy was born. I couldn't find any references to movies even on his own home page. Delete. Sdedeo 21:04, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
- Maybe I should have said notable moviemaker. That was a hypothetical point anyway - the main problem with this article is that I can't find any evidence of these movies - maybe I'm missing something. This article looks like self-promotion. CDC (talk) 20:44, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
- Comment A quick Google comes up with Paul Carpenter as an actor as per Sdedeo and a baseballer who played one season for the Pittsburgh Pirates back in 1916. One season of baseball is marginal but perhaps we could have this as a disambiguation page. This bloke claims to have been an American Idol contestant but there seems to be little verifiable evidence that I could find for the claim. If he was on American Idol, he could be directed to the article for the season. Capitalistroadster 01:25, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
- If he was an American Idol contestant, he didn't even make it past the first auditions, otherwise American Wikipedians would've recognized his name, I think. - Mgm|(talk) 07:24, August 27, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Non-notable. *drew 01:55, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
- Comment: I am relisting this to gather more consensus. Redwolf24 (talk) 04:10, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Article doesn't establish that subject meets WP:BIO. Quale 04:53, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
Delete. No verifiable evidence of meeting WP:Bio.Capitalistroadster 05:14, 5 September 2005 (UTC)- Keep uncle G's rewrite. Capitalistroadster 12:06, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
- This person's home page is empty, containing no actual ordinary HTML content at all, and a Google Web search reveals that he is simply a magician for hire in Houston and little more. Therefore, for your discussion pleasure, I've done a Complete Rewrite about the actor and the baseball player mentioned above. Uncle G 09:08:32, 2005-09-05 (UTC)
- Always great to have a good article on legitimate targets, but, um, this article started life as a Geogre's Law failure (miniscule last name) and was personal spam/hoax. Again, no faulting of folks who do the saves. It's just that a new article (that wouldn't keep the deletion material in history) under the proper name would mean, essentially a "delete this" vote. Indeed, a proper article can be written with no reference to this at all, then just a redirect, and then there is no VfD debate at all -- as the nominated article has become only a redirect. Geogre 13:06, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
- Keep Uncle Gs re-write. Jobe6 Image:Peru flag large.png 13:08, September 5, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. It's a poorly formatted disambig about two extremely non-notable people. / Peter Isotalo 16:30, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
- Delete It seems like a hoax to me.---CH (talk) 09:05, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.