Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Grafton bus crash

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The result of the debate was keep. Sjakkalle (Check!) 09:58, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Grafton Bus Crash

Delete. I think this is non-notable. — Bcat (talk | email) 3 July 2005 23:34 (UTC)

• Delete, not-encyclopedic and this artilce is also uninformative--nixie 3 July 2005 23:36 (UTC)
• Delete - Agree, non-encyclopedic / notable. -- Cabhan 3 July 2005 23:37 (UTC)
• Weak keep, but rename to Grafton bus crash memorial (i.e. capitals at the very least). A memorial to a local tragedy is probably at least as notable as a local high school ergo it should be kept. But, WP:NOT a memorial, and "Grafton bus crash" yields only 28 Google hits so it's not all that locally notable. -Splash (signed later, but struck).
• Merge into whatever city this memorial is located in. AиDя01DTALKEMAIL July 3, 2005 23:54 (UTC)
• Merge with Grafton, New South Wales. The Emergency Management Australia website [1] shows that 54 people were injured but no-one died in the accident although there were some dreadful bus crashes on the Pacific Highway in the late 1980's early 1990s leading to changes of regulation of coach travel and pressure to improve the road. 136.153.2.2 4 July 2005 00:18 (UTC)

Wrong crash quoted - try this one, also at EMA --ScottDavis 6 July 2005 12:26 (UTC)

• Comment That web site is incorrect, 20 were killed (see:http://www.abc.net.au/am/stories/s74973.htm) and it was a cause for the upgrading of the highway. having said that it is a deplorable article and needs deletion--Porturology 4 July 2005 12:18 (UTC)
• Merge the information given by the above anon voter into Grafton, New South Wales. As for this article, delete it; Wikipedia is not a memorial. And besides, how can we have a memorial for an accident in which no one died? --Idont Havaname 4 July 2005 01:00 (UTC)

Comment: List of disasters in Australia by death toll lists 21 deaths. -- Longhair | Talk 6 July 2005 11:51 (UTC)

• Delete non notable, wikipedia is not a memorial. JamesBurns 4 July 2005 01:26 (UTC)
• Update Grafton, New South Wales with anon info above, then delete. The merge and delete is ok this time because we're not merging article content? This is my adjusted vote in light of the above info. Basically, I concur with Idont Havaname. -Splash July 4, 2005 02:13 (UTC)
• Update Grafton, NSW, and then Delete the page in question. --Alex12 3 4 July 2005 06:06 (UTC)
• Merge -- and redirect to Grafton, New South Wales. - Longhair | Talk 6 July 2005 11:48 (UTC)
• Keep and expand. The crash doesn't belong to the town. If it should be merged somewhere, then Pacific Highway (Australia) would be a better target. --ScottDavis 6 July 2005 12:26 (UTC)

I've expanded the article now - have another look. --ScottDavis 6 July 2005 12:52 (UTC)

• Keep. Ambi 6 July 2005 14:27 (UTC)
• Keep per expansion. It should be renamed to Grafton bus crash, though. — Bcat (talk | email) 6 July 2005 14:30 (UTC)
• Keep the expanded version. Needs correct capitalization however. This is not merely a memorial, so is a valid article. -Splash 6 July 2005 14:46 (UTC)
• Keep: As per expansion. Has merit and hope. -- CABHAN TALK CONTRIBS 6 July 2005 15:16 (UTC)
• keep Expanded article shows notability --Porturology 7 July 2005 02:36 (UTC)
• keep --AYArktos 7 July 2005 10:30 (UTC)
• keep Was a horrible little stub but much improved now. (Can I move an article to the correct title (i.e., lower case) while it is still the subject of a VFD? Or do I wait?) Tannin 7 July 2005 12:10 (UTC)

Keep it: article was about an event that was partly linked to other historical facts (eg airline pilot's strike) and should stay ..I don't know what other sites say but people definately died in it: I should know, because I was in it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by User:203.45.184.4 (talk • contribs)

• Keep per precedents set at List of disasters in Australia by death toll. Disasters with 5 deaths still have articles, so there's no harm done in keeping an article for this one. But still rename the article to Grafton bus crash, for style reasons. --Idont Havaname 19:38, 9 July 2005 (UTC)
• Note: I moved this VfD because the article itself was moved from Grafton Bus Crash to Grafton bus crash, and the VfD link had gone red (which suggested to me that this page had been blanked or deleted, and that was not the case), making it harder to find this page. --Idont Havaname 04:47, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

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