Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Alice Cleaver
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Wikipedia is not a geaneological dictionary. Dunc_Harris|☺ 12:09, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Well, the article isn't talking about somebody who had no effect at all - this is related to the only first class child to die in the sinking of the Titanic. However, it appears it is incorrect - a quick search on the internet reveals that [articles that actually give references] state the Titanic survivor was one Alice Catherine Cleaver, not Alice Mary Cleaver (alleged child killer), and that Alice Catherine Cleaver returned to England where she married and had two children, while Alice Mary Cleaver died in prison. Therefore, the article as it stands should be factually disputed. Average Earthman 15:14, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. I've added an accuracy dispute flag and cleaned up the formatting a bit (but not the spelling and grammar), and I'm wondering exactly what message to send the creator, who is an anon and whose only edits so far are to this article. The poor grammar, spelling and wikiformatting, plus the doubtful status of the information, and the topic, all remind me strongly of the schoolwork of some of my relatives... I'm talking about bright primary age schoolchildren here. Food for thought? If that's the case, we need to be welcoming but not distracted. Andrewa 22:18, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- The original author is obviously following this, as they keep returning with extra un-formatted information. Perhaps if they named the title and publisher of the mentioned biography this would solve the problem. The story seems to have changed since I first edited it, she now no longer seems to have murdered her own child. Which suggests the original subject was a confused identity. Name the biography or delete.Giano 07:12, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Delete. - Centrx 17:16, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- The incomplete book title has now been put on. Having read the discussion page- this all seems a bit creepy, why doesn't the author just justify it here, as they are obviously reading it. Something odd going on. again say delete Giano 17:49, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)