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Contents 1 Fixing method 2 Plantae vs. Protista 3 Error 4 Link deleted 5 culturing volvox

[edit] Fixing method

Regarding the fixing of material in sublimate-acetic mixture, someone mysteriously broadened the possible targets from the Volvocaceae to the Volvocales. Are we sure this is applicable?

I'm not sure, although this fixing method does seem to have been generally used for all types of algae. What I do know is that "corrosive sublimate" is "violently toxic", so it has probably been replaced by some other reagent. If I find out which one, I shall write it up. -- Heron

[edit] Plantae vs. Protista

I just took a microbiology test and in preparation was referring to Volvox as part of plantae. Somebody argued the opposing viewpoint with some other links and a statement about "you can't trust Wikipedia." So, I checked the only "hard reference" that I have which is a current edition of Stedman's Medical Dictionary and there you also find the protista designation.

As it turned out, that question was on our exam and the correct answer was protista.

A lot of students rely on Wikipedia to provide accurate information. I'm not talking for scholarly research but just to study. Something this basic should be backed up by what's the most oft-stated designation in current publications.

So, where are the current publications that still put it in plantae? Beggar00 14:55, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

In the taxobox, Volvox is currently treated as a protist. Many of the most recent classifications treat it as a plant, since the green algae are clearly closer related to the higher plants than they are to animals, fungi, and any of the other protists. Does anyone have a strong opinion on the treatment of this group? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Josh Grosse (talk • contribs) 7 March 2003

Thats not true, it IS considered a protozoa by most recent classifications, if i knew how i would change it back. They are colonial flagellates. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.42.109.229 (talk • contribs) 2 January 2006

Treating Volvox as a protozoan requires classifying them a second time as a green algae, as it clearly belongs with them but the others are not protozoan in nature. This is something only very old classifications do. Treating them as protists is a more modern approach, but phylogenetic treatments now move the green algae back to the Plantae, while leaving other algae out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Josh Grosse (talk • contribs) 2 January 2006

Agreed. It is widely accepted to be in the Kingdom Plantae. Please read primary literature before changing it back. I am tired of vandalism and please sign in before you change anything so we can discuss it. --Kupirijo 23:19, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Also agreed. The literature is mostly consistent:

Bremer, K., Humphries, C. J., Mishler, B. D., and S. P. Churchill. (1987). On Cladistic Relationships in Green Plants. Taxon, 36(2): 339-349.

Also see AlgaeBase.

--Rkitko ^(talk) 23:12, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Error

I highly doubt that Volvox can grow to 500ft tall.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.192.174.178 (talk • contribs) 9 June 2006

lol - they are microscopic, approx 1 mm in size, maximum. I edited that out and added some culturing info.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.2.174.30 (talk • contribs) 16 June 2006

[edit] Link deleted

I was asked via e-mail why I deleted a link that was not up and running at the time I accessed it--I deleted it originally because it was a bad link, and I could not tell what type of content the site had. The place to discuss issues of content about an article is on the talk page, not via e-mail, because it is best to reach a general consensus among editors. However, the deleted link is to a web design consultancy firm, and Wikipedia does not allow commercial spam. There is also a poem about Volvox on the website, however, this either vanity content or personal research, and is, also, not part of Wikipedia. See Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. This article does need expanded. Feel free to add appropriate content. KP Botany 22:08, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Point taken regarding poem being on the same template that I use for my website - my apologies for that. If you feel the article and prose I have on that page is worthy content, I will happily create a new page that has no reference or links back to the commercial area of my site. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Volvox777 (talk • contribs) 19:23, 7 December 2006 (UTC).

The problem is the poem is your original research and creative output. There's no place for it in an encyclopedia. KP Botany 19:50, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] culturing volvox

This is great information on culturing algae. I wonder it would be appropriate to put this info in the article on green algae or somewhere else. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rozzychan (talk • contribs) 17 February 2007

Volvox reproduce sexualy and asexuly that should be changed.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.117.10.168 (talk • contribs) 23 June 2007