Talk:Volleyball in the United States

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[edit] Shouldn't this be "...around the world"?

I'm wondering if it's worthwhile having an article specifically on volleyball in the US? It's popular in many areas of the world, and the points made in the article apply to those regions also. I think it would be better to have the article Volleyball around the world, such as the one for football. Icemuon 13:13, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

"Volleyball in the United States" and "Volleyball around the world" would seem to me to be complementary topics, such as Football (soccer) around the world and Soccer in the United States are. Cheers --Pak21 13:25, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, I'm still feeling "off" about this. Would then an article on "Volleyball in Iceland" or "Volleyball in Brazil" also be acceptable? Icemuon 14:01, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

"Volleyball in Iceland" I'd be a bit dodgy about as the Icelanders don't play volleyball to any significant extent as far as I'm aware. "Volleyball in Brazil" would be fine (and welcome). They'd fit in perfectly well with Volleyball in Poland and Volleyball in Spain. Cheers --Pak21 14:17, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok, should have done more research. But in fact, volleyball is widely played in Iceland -- hundreds of teams, not bad for a country of 300,000! Icemuon 14:31, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Expansion

Well, cleanup, restructure and expansion. First the intro should mention the governing body (USAV) sooner as well as the invention volleyball in the US. The article could be substantially improved by more coverage of the various levels (in addition to Juniors) - HS (and governing body), college (men's/women's) and governing body (NCAA), and even adult amateur play/leagues. If no one else is inspired; I'll probably do it myself at some point. AUTiger » talk 22:54, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Some thoughts on organization: the Brief History of Professional Volleyball probably shouldn't lead off the article. College volleyball is the main thing in the U.S. and so probably this should be first. I'll take a stab at writing that section soon. A section on "Adult Volleyball" needs to be there, talking about tournaments and Open Nationals. I'll also work up something on this soon. Wiredcoach 22 July 2007

When the article was created not much was here expect one paragraph. When I started breaking it down (unfortunately, I haven't had much time to help expand it), I started with professional (since that was the focus of the original article) and worked down on the experience ladder. Vbofficial 03:23, 23 July 2007 (UTC) There was no other rhyme or reason.

I do understand how difficult it is to start these articles from scratch. I'm trying to write something for the collegiate section and having trouble figuring out what to say. I'll just try to do something brief but informative and then see if others can add to it. And I did a little searching around regarding professional volleyball and it's hard to find all the relevant info. The article currently says 1987 was the last pro league, but that's not correct. The USPV was the last women's pro league, ending in 2002. There was the PVL and NVA before that. And these are indoor pros. Beach has a whole history too - AVP, WPVA, BVA. Which raises another point: the article isn't titled Indoor Volleyball in the US. Maybe it should be. Or, we'll need to have Beach stuff done in more detail and separated out in the organization. For now, one step at a time, we're all busy with other things too. Wiredcoach 03:37, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] PICS

Looking for pictures to add to each section...the one being used presently is of two other national teams playing outside the US. Vbofficial 19:22, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, 'tis not the season for HS and college ball, however in a couple of months I can shoot some originals when those get going. In the meantime, I know people sometimes are able to find appropriately licensed on-topic pics on Flickr. Can't search now, but will try this weekend if no one else finds anything by then. AUTiger » talk 02:47, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

I also have a few, but they aren't the best in the world...I have pics of club and of high school. I will focus on getting some good ones in July as summer tournaments pick up and then in August with the reg. season for high school and college Vbofficial 02:56, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

I have tons of really good pictures of junior club and collegiate (I run a junior club, and my daughter just finished playing collegiate). But, I have no idea how to incorporate pictures into a Wikipedia page. I can make the pictures available if someone who is a Wikipedia expert would actually place them. 7 July 2007 Wiredcoach

Great to hear coach. It's actually better if you do the uploads so that you can grant the license under your name(account). On the left side of every wikipedia page in the second box under the logo labeled interaction you'll find a link for File upload wizard. You'll be stepped through the image(file) upload process to indicate where the pic came from (your own work) and what license you are releasing under - public domain, GFDL, Creative Commons variants (I use Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike), etc. You might click through on some image in my Auburn gallery to see the image description pages so see what I'm talking about. One you upload the pics, then they can be inserted into the article using the image name with something like this: [[Image:yourimagefilename.jpg|200px|right]]. AUTiger » talk 22:57, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

I took a first stab at adding two photos. I took the liberty of removing the old photo of two non-US teams playing. I didn't know how to keep the previous box of info there - it was cloned from the "Volleyball" article. Anyone who is better at formatting the page, feel free to adjust sizes and placement. The photo from Open Nationals might even be better suited for a section on Adult Volleyball. For now, I'm just trying to have an interesting photo at the beginning of the article. Wiredcoach 03:36, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Nice job WiredCoach. I had planned to add a couple of club pictures and one from a high school match, but too much other stuff on plate at the moment. I experimented with pic and infobox. Not sure if it works. Hopefully, we all can expand this article. Vbofficial 03:20, 23 July 2007 (UTC)