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Admins: If you need to re-protect an article that I just unprotected on my WP:PP sweeps, go right ahead. If you believe that it requires long term protection, please mention that in your protection summary. Thanks.

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[edit] NawlinWiki

Thanks for the semiprotect on Judith I. Bailey (why do they hate her so much, I wonder?)! NawlinWiki 17:16, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Alex Blagg

Thanks for the semiprotection. Stupid anons. --M1ss1ontomars2k4 02:34, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dean McVeigh

Howdy. Could you revert your recent change to this redirect. We don't use american english in Australia and you've created a double redirect. I'd fix it but the redirect is currently protected. Garglebutt / (talk) 23:26, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Fixed.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 23:28, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Squidward

Hi. A number of pages Ihave either seen or worked on have been vandalized with a ridiculous picture. The edit summaries all say "Squidward" on them. No one has really said anything. They have just reverted. However, I saw that Here you mentioned the squidward vandal. You are an admin. Why not just ban him. Since every single one of his edits has been exactly the same. It's probably not even a person. It might be some sort of program designed to vandalize. Could you ban him. I have already reverted a page from him, and saw sevral other revert sevral more. thanks. Tobyk777 03:06, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

By what user?Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 03:19, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
He was an IP: 58.85.194.235
Is it one squidward vandal or many? I just looked and it seems that more pages have been vandalized in the exact same way than the ones on this guy's contributions list. Could he have multiple IPs? Or could there be some sort of squidward vandal group? Tobyk777 04:28, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Huge Sigh of Relief

Thank you for semi-protecting the page Jehovah's Witnesses: Controversial Issues. It can be difficult enough to reach a consensus on such an article without having to constantly monitor these anon IP's reverting activity. Maybe now we can continue to make progress towards a high quality NPOV article. Many, many thanks! Lucy 05:33, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request

Could you please point out which specific edits you found to be vandalism in semi-protecting the Jehovah's Witnesses: Controversial Issues page? Duffer1, a party in this content dispute who was blocked the other day for his bad conduct in it, was told on his discussion page by the blocking administrator, in agreement with another poster there, that "The edits were not vandalism, they were edits you did not agree with," and nothing has changed since then. From looking at the page Wikipedia:Semi-protection policy, it says that semi-protection isn't supposed to be used to deal with content disputes. It also says that it is "not intended to prohibit anonymous editing in general," which seems to have been a main motivation behind the semi-protection request. Thanks.Petronifico 06:35, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Repeatedly removing a dispute tag for no reason is vandalism. I can see several older editors, with accounts, reverting each other. There is not agreement yet and the page is disputed, whether I agree with the current version or not, it is disputed, so the tag stays. The IP's were disrupting the editing process by repeatedly removing tags without valid reasons or any agreement that would warrant their removal.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 06:42, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
He was also told, however, that "I suggest you take a step back from articles related to your faith for a while, as your own point of view may be too coloured to see a neutral one." Is using dispute tags to avoid neutrality and NPOV a valid use of dispute tags? Doesn't that give everyone that doesn't get their way a coercive tool to use? For example, if someone disputes that the world is round, or that the Holocaust happened, does that legitimize slapping dispute tags on pages until they get their way?Petronifico 07:04, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
If a good consensus of editors on the talk see nothing to dispute, then the tag should go. If this user is some sort of tagging troll or has and RfC or something, then I need to know, otherwise, it is just another disputed article.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 07:52, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Well, searching Google for "site:wikipedia.org duffer tag" shows that this user has a long history of slapping disputed tags all over Jehovah's Witness-related pages and then getting in fights with everyone when they don't see what his problem is, but I don't know how you define a tagging troll. When he was recently blocked, he provided a link to an arbitration case where the Arbitration Committee found him guilty of multiple counts of edit warring and point of view editing (here and here), among 25 total counts of bad behavior. But besides his history, if a bunch of members of the Flat Earth Society invaded some articles and decided that criticism of their beliefs was just biased bunk, would that form enough "consensus" to justify slapping dispute tags all over the place? Are these just weapons to edit war and insert POV if people don't get their way?Petronifico 08:41, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
I'll look into the Arbcoms. To answer the last concern, note that you are descript [[1]], which are not considered a consensus, such behavoir would be considered disruptive.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 19:55, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Oh dear

I'm not sure that the nomination was either necessary or even useful. I hope it will be possible to politely but firmly educate User:Primetime in the fact that they mergers are only saying to merge the verifiable stuff and that this explicitly excludes many of the unreferenced terms s/he refers to. AfD has often treated WP:V poorly, and I'm not really sure what to do about that. Sometimes when I write a closure statement, I make it critical of such things and intend to provide grounds for a future nomination. Somtimes, I editorially cut the article right back myself. People usually scream, but it demonstrates to people that it can be done, you know? I think WP:BOLD may be exactly what is needed. -Splashtalk 21:31, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Yeah...nominating a subpage that was actively being used as a template/workshop to make a WP:V compatible list was very foolish imo, at least it seems. That possible made more trouble then before, and "pro-cruft trolls" may use the AfD to continue the "anti-censorship freedom of speech war". Sigh...I don't know where these people come from, but lets hope this doesn't become an issue. Merge or No conensus AfD's are subject to regular editing, so I'll keep an eye on that list, perhaps doing huge reverts if needed.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 21:52, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bug report

Ouch and no immediately apparent reason. -Splashtalk 23:15, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Not that I recall, no. It would have filled up my whole screen if it had, I think, and I don't remember that happening. You know, it might have been the nature of the comment. It was backwards to the usual style people write in. -Splashtalk 23:30, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Huh...George Bush has a similar summary and it does not botch that section...I'll look through the JS.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 23:34, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Look for a carriage return or newline maybe? -Splashtalk 23:53, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

PS. It's turning up in CAT:SEMI (on which I am cracking the whip at the moment) so I think you need to split your strings again. -Splashtalk 23:56, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes. When I started there were about 90 members of that category. There are now about 23... I suggested to FoN that striking up a thread on WT:SEMI seems like a good idea. I don't want to start it myself since I haven't clarified my thoughts enough to have it appear above my signature yet, but I'd certainly pitch into the discussion. -Splashtalk 01:24, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] protection durations

Alternatively one could specify something outlandish:

  • 01:09, July 7, 2006 Joe Admin protected George W. Bush with an expiry time of until the Nader Administration (vandalism [edit=autoconfirmed:move=sysop])
— Mar. 23, '06 [01:02] <freakofnurxture|talk>

[edit] Murg

Hi. I saw you reverted this Anon user too. Are you watching this guy? (I'm watching the article, so I noticed it). Thanks for your help. --Mmounties (Talk) 04:48, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nudity in yoga / Naked yoga

Do your comments at WP:RFPP apply also to the request for protection at Yoga? Dandelion1 06:40, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] hi

I just wanted to say hi.
Public domain I, the copyright holder of this work, hereby release it into the public domain. This applies worldwide.

In case this is not legally possible,

I grant any entity the right to use this work for any purpose, without any conditions, unless such conditions are required by law.

[edit] Admin Javascript's

I'm not sure how/where to add your admin scripts at. I get the new toolbox links but non of the tabs get listed.

Do you have a some sort of guide you could add for this? --Scott Grayban 08:56, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Look here, [2], since you are a non-admin, then get that one. Get the one with popups since those are nice (unless you run into problems). Go here and add it in. Seems that you re adding {{User:Voice of All/RC/nolupin/monobook.js}}, which does not add popups. Try adding {{subst:User:Voice of All/RC/monobook.js}} The "subst:" means that it takes the current image (the way User:Voice of All/RC/monobook.js looks) and pasts it permanently in that form into your monobook. If I "subst" a page, its text will appear as its is now on the page I add the "susbt" to, and will stay that way. If I don't subst it, it will change everytime the page with the stuff I am copying changes. However, java will only read the js script if it is actually pasted there, so you need to use subst. I'll try to update my intructions, because I can tell that a few others made some mistakes as well with this.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 17:31, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
Ahh thanks!! I knew I was doing something wrong but just didn't know where -- cheers mate --Scott Grayban 17:10, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #1

Reach out is a program aimed at allowing users to bring issues that they have had in Wikipedia to a listening, sympathetic and caring audience:
"No one can know how we feel if we do not say. We cannot expect to get understanding if we do not ask for it. No one will dispute that sometimes life's issues are too much for one person. It is fair to say that sometimes Wikipedia's problems fall under the same heading. This is a place where you can bring the bruises that can sometimes be got on this project for attention."
The Stress alerts program aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of their stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them.
Note from the editor
Welcome to this new format of the Esperanza Newsletter, which came about during the last Advisory Council meeting - we hope you like it! The major changes are that each month, right after the Council meeting, this will be sent out and will include two featured programs and a sum up of the meeting. Also, it will be signed by all of the Advisory Council members, not just Celestianpower. Have an Esperanzial end of March, everyone!
  1. Future meetings are to be held monthly, not fortnightly as before.
  2. Bans and Access level changes (apart from autovoice) in the IRC channel are to be reported at the new log.
  3. In the IRC channel, there is going to be only one bot at a time.
  4. The charter requires members to have 150 edits and 2 weeks editing. Why this is the case will be clarified.
  5. A new Code of Conduct will be drafted by JoanneB and proposed to the Esperanza community.
  6. The NPA reform idea is to be dropped officially.
  7. Charter ammendments are to be discussed in future, not voted on.
  8. The Advisory Council is not going to be proposed to be expanded by the Advisory Council themselves, if others want to propose it, they will listen.
Signed...
Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, KnowledgeOfSelf and FireFox 17:47, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA thanks

Thanks
Voice of All/Archive6, thank you you so much for supporting my RfA, which passed successfully 49/6/3. I am grateful for all the supportive comments, and have taken people's suggestions to heart. I will do my best to live up to people's expectations. If I can ever make any improvements or help out in any way, please feel free to let me know! Thanks again for your much appreciated support.

¡Dustimagic! (T/C) 05:37, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism help

Alright pal,

The article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Issue has been somewhat vandalised - can you fix it please?

I'd do it myself but I've no idea about editing and wikifying - ta. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.97.157.25 (talk • contribs) 15:45, 28 March 2006

[edit] Was that for me

Nice to hear from you, but was that message on my talk page intended for another beautiful and talented Wikipedian, not li'l ol' me? :) -- User:RyanFreisling @ 06:24, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry...I suppose it still applies to whoever. Consider that if you want to become an admin though...:).Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 06:29, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
Oh yes, now I understand - it was indeed a response in that thread. I didn't see the connection at first so I thought you'd posted it on my page by accident. My life interferes enough with Wikipedia editing, I can only imagine how Wikipedia adminning would interfere with Wikipedia editing... :) Hope you're well. :) -- User:RyanFreisling @ 06:37, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Protection of Hentai

I'm wondering why you placed Hentai under protection using the controversial version of the article. In addition, the images being used, although now sourced, may not be considered fair use. Karaveks voice seems to imply that a "majority rule" has already been reached, but if you were to see the talk page you'll notice there is no majority, in-fact there is only 4 people disputing this so far. I ask you to place a version of the page with no images as protected until the dispute is settled for the reasons I have stated. -- Ned Scott 22:15, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Protection does not endorse the current version. I very much considered removing the image, but the reasons were not strong/obvious enough for me to lock it up a certain way, so I just locked it as it last was.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 22:51, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
seems fair, sorry to have gotten you wrapped up into all of this. -- Ned Scott 06:05, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you for your response on the AN/I

I appreciate your advice on the incident with Rhobite I brought to AN/I. -- User:RyanFreisling @ 08:53, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My user page

  • Thanks for reverting the vandalism. --DMG413 19:43, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thank you for commenting on my recent request for bureaucratship. I deeply appreciate your kind words, and also the comments and feedback that you left me. I hope that I can improve and gain your support in the future. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 23:21, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Eastern Front (World War II)

I know that it had been protected for 2 1/2 months, but unfortunately nothing is settled. Please put it on your watchlist if you haven't already, as I suspect the edit war will resume. It's not on my WL because I bowed out of it. Extremely frustrating situation. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 18:19, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

May I add that I agree completely; there is no agreement on a version. If anything the personal attacks on the discussion page have gotten worse than ever in the last few days. This was unfortunate since a new editor or two showed up only to be chased away. Others have dropped out from the exhaustion of trying to work with a single editor who defies any attempt to reach consensus. This leaves us in the unfortunate position of having a poor-quality article despite having many talented editors. The claim that the unprotected version had the support of the majority was incorrect. DMorpheus 18:52, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Hello Voice of All: Thank you for your vote in my RfA, which passed with a final tally of 77/3/0. Although I do not have your approval; I hope I can perform at the standards you expect for administrators, and I will keep your reasons in mind. If I make any mistakes, or you need anything, please let me know. Prodego talk 01:51, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] U.S. Roads

Per Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive84 the warring is already blockable. Could you drop a note at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/SPUI in defense of this block? --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 04:31, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Happy Birthday!

We here at the Wikipedia:Birthday Committee are wishing you a great day. (Tomorrow, that is). JaredW! 11:12, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Gee thanks! I dindn't even know that there was a birthday committee :-).Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 16:54, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Happy Birthday! --Misza13 T C 08:16, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
I hope you have a great birthday.--Dakota ~ ° 08:27, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Have a great birthday!!!Hope you enjoy yourself. Thethinredline 10:50, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Happy Birthday from me as well. I hope it's a good one! EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 17:09, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question...

So why is it that I had to apply for "israel" to be unprotected, instead of just unprotecting it myself?

Only admins can unprotect, even if it is just semiprotection. You could have edited it before (and without consequence), and now, but you still can't protect/unprotect.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 21:16, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Admin coaching

Hi! While User:Titoxd is on a Wikibreak, he gave me permission to do some leg-work concerning Esperanza admin coaching. I was curious how your coaching with User:Eddie Segoura is going. If it is finished (or even if it isn't), would you be able to take on another coachee? Don't feel guilty if you don't have the time- I perfectly understand, and wouldn't want anyone feel overworked. Thanks for all your time! EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 04:23, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #2

The Barnstar Brigade is a new program aimed at giving more very deserving yet unappreciated users barnstars. It will officially start on 2006-04-09, but signing up is encouraged before this date:
"Here in Wikipedia, there are hundreds of wikipedians whose work and efforts go un-appreciated. One occasionally comes across editors who have thousands of good edits, but because they may not get around as much as others, their contributions and hard work often go un-noticed. Sadly, these editors often leave the project. As Esperanzians, we can help to make people feel appreciated, be it by some kind words or the awarding of a Barnstar. A project the size of Wikipedia has thousands of editors, so there are plenty of people out there who deserve recognition, one just has to find them. The object of this program is not to flood editors with Barnstars, but to seek out people who deserve them, and make them feel appreciated."
The Stress alerts program aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of their stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them.
Information
Welcome to the second issue of the new format Esperanza Newsletter - we hope you still like it! This week, it was delivered diligently by our new dogsbody. MiszaBot (run by Misza13): any execution complaints should go to him. Content comments should be directed at the Esperanza talkpage. Thanks!
  1. The next elections: Approval voting as before and, also as before, an previous leadership member can run. Please submit your name for voting in the relevant section of this page. Voting starts on 2006-04-23 and ends on 2006-04-30. There will be three places up for grabs as KnowledgeOfSelf is leaving Wikipedia. Please see the previously linked page for full details.
  2. The Code of Conduct is now ready for extensive discussion! Specific comments should go to the Code of Conduct talk page, discussion of having one at all should be directed to the main Esperanza talk page.
  3. The current process for accepting proposals for new programs has been deemed fine. All Advisory Council members and the Admin Gen are to endeavour to be bold when viewing discussion. If they feel that consensus has been reached, they will act accordingly.
A plea from the editor...
The propsed programs page is terribly underused! Please leave any comments, good or bad, on the page, to help us determine the membership's thoughts on the ideas there.
Signed...
Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, KnowledgeOfSelf and FireFox 19:53, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help with Bernie Sanders article

There is an anon user jumping between IP addresses and reverting pages to instill his POV, most likely in violation of 3RR. I have tried to assume good faith, but the user seems to be intentionally making up IP addresses and signing with them on talk pages, including my own. I assume it is some manner of sockpuppetry. The last know IP is 64.223.121.83 (talk · contribs) --waffle iron 01:39, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

He registered as Straightinfo (talk · contribs). Now he keeps removing my comments asking him to properly sign pages from Talk:Bernie Sanders. I left notes on his user talk to not remove other users comments and he calls that personal attacks and removes them. I say it's not an attack and include a warning template to not remove other users comments on his own talk and he removes that. --waffle iron 17:02, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of teetotalers

Why did you revert my edits on List of teetotalers? I changed it so that the list was the main article for the category of Teetoalers? You would think that under the category of Teetotalers - something that includes all teetotallers - the article which list them should be the main article.

Hey Voice of All, thanks for never responding to my comment. I went ahead and made List of teetotalers the main article in the category of teetotalers again. Please give a reason for reverting my edits next time. 141.211.4.20 19:23, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Monobook.js

Hi, sorry to bother you but... In my monobook.js I have recently added your script where it changes the main page article tab to main page. Unfourtunatley something bad seems to have happened. Although one of my other java scripts functions correctly (I can't test the other) yours doesn't and the page itself looks screwed up (not how it should do). Please could you see if you can find the problem, any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Lcarsdata Talk | E-mail | My Contribs 11:36, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

When I installed the search script you had, my JS stopped working, "missing } in XML statement". Also your GML rollback script is outdated, though it may still work if you don't have popups, but I doubt it.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 16:50, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
You mean at MediaWiki talk:Monobook.js? Flcelloguy (A note?) 19:18, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
He was talking about his. The problem lies with the other script he had in there (outdated godmode.js and google search, which gives "missing } after XML" errors in JS console. My "main page" script is very simple, you can copy it to yours just to see. Sometimes you see the tab change from article to main page, however that would not happen if it was on the MediaWiki js (it loads first methinks).Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 21:01, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
Actually, I know that it runs first, since I use this script on another wiki (that I am an admin on).Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 21:07, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Special chars

I see. I had forgotten I had that script installed. I happen to beating up on CAT:SEMI at this very moment (I guess you spotted me). I have one request: when it can't find an article on WP:PP, I have to dismiss two error messages. Can it be just one? -Splashtalk 22:02, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Done; JS updated.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 22:10, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Email

Jason,

Thanks for your email. I figured I'd let you know that I responded to it a few days ago via email, just in case you only check it once in a blue moon like me. Hope all is well, and I look forward to hearing from you. EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 00:01, 15 April 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Main Page tab

Hi! As I don't know JavaScript, could you please tell me which text in the script you added should be translated to show 'glavna stran' instead of the 'article' tab on the main page? Thanks very much. --Eleassar my talk 11:18, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Yupeee! It works like a charm, see here: http://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glavna_stran. --Eleassar my talk 11:48, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talk Sport

The annoymous IP (User:195.92.67.75 and similar in that range) seems to have started again with the Talk Sport page, and I am asking for your kind support in solutions for the problem (although I will be away for a few days), kind regards, Dave 17:43, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Happy Spring celebration / Easter (as your preferences and beliefs dictate)

Here's hoping that if the bunny leaves you any beans they're this kind! ++Lar: t/c 15:17, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Here's hoping that if the bunny leaves you any beans they're this kind! ++Lar: t/c 15:17, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Admin-like RC patrol tools

Hey,

I've installed your RC tool, but something's not quite right. When using the "quick warnings tabs", it gives "Regarding edits made during April 9, 2006 (UTC)" as a headline instead of the current date. Any way to fix this?

Also, those tabs interfere with the normal edit buttons (the extra ones still seem to work, tough).

color probe·Talk·Contribs·@ RCP 11:15, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Ok. Thannks. color probe ·Talk ·Contribs ·@ RCP 15:13, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Guy Wetmore Carryl

I'm the guy whose edits to this page you undid on April 7. Could you tell me what was wrong with them, so I will know next time -- and so that I can cure the problem, if cure be possible? Thanks.

wordcrafting@gmail.com

We generally try to avoid forums as links, especially ones of the smaller sort.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 20:28, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] monobook.js

Apologies if this isn't the right place -- the right place is sometimes hard to find on Wikipedia!

As a Recent Changes Patroller, I use the anti-vandalism monobook.js script that points to your user-space. It's wonderful, and thank you very much for making it available! :)

However, the script seems to have stopped working about 30 minutes ago (e.g., about 0615 UTC on 19 April 2006). I'll mouse over a link, and I'll get the standard alt text, instead of that wonderful little preview window that I've come to rely on.

The anti-vandalism script doesn't seem to work on any page I visit. The script doesn't work for me on Firefox (my browser of choice) or MSIE (which I rarely use, but I opened it tonight just to test this). I did reboot (as a tech support person, that's the first thing I do ;) ), and the script still didn't work.

I don't know if any other folks are having difficulties.

I just wanted to let you know about this. If this is the wrong place to bring this up, please let me know and I'll post something in the proper location.

Thank you! :)

Yansa 06:45, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

There was a missing "//" before a nowiki tag, so the js was confused, should be fixed now. Press cntrl-F5.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 06:59, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
It works! Thank you! :) Yansa 01:14, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please respond to my previous comments

I left you two messages before asking why you reverted my edits to the list of teetotalers and you still haven't responded. Please tell me why you reverted my edits. 141.211.4.33 23:43, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

What is this *[3] supposed to do? I reverted while on RC patrol as it seemed to be either a test edit or an out of format edit. If there is good reason for the *, then I'll put it back of course. Sorry for the wait, I've had much work and java from 30+ users to fix, so I left some messages without reply for a while.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 00:37, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the response. If you view the category of teetotalers it puts the article at the top of the category, showing that it is the main article It is mentioned in Wikipedia:Categorization#Category_sorting: "Using a space after the pipe is the customary way to categorize an article in a category with the same name, indicating that the article is the main topic article for that specific category." It seems a space is the customary way instead of a star so I have updated it. 141.211.4.23 01:11, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
You replaced everything after the "|" with *, did you mean to just add the * after the | and before the rest?Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 01:14, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Joseph Sobran protection

Hey, thanks for stepping in when you did regarding protection given the reignition of the edit wars. If it's too soon, no problem, but it turns out that one of the warring groups were actually 3 meatpuppets of the same user. Given that the entire edit war revolved around 4 different people trying to keep a consensus version in place, and a user with 3 meatpuppets reverting wholesale, and that the meatpuppeteer (if that's a word) has been indefinitely blocked, is there a chance we could get the article unprotected now? Thanks in advance. --badlydrawnjeff (WP:MEMES?) 21:08, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] I need your help ==

Sambody has deletet a template I have createt. Pleace see my page. User talk:Hipi Zhdripi#Kosovo-geo-stub and help my, wat I have to do. The serbian memebers of the wikipedia are maken a propaganda --Hipi Zhdripi 16:24, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] rm pages on WP:PP

I can completely understand your frustration at people not removing or adding pages to the list (yeah, I'm guilty...sorry), but do you think the system itself is worthwhile that there's that much manual labor? I think this is another instance where MediaWiki software just kinda sucks for a given purpose. Oh yeah, and what are you doing up so late? Insomnia or something? -Mysekurity [m!] 06:58, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

I made javascript that un/protects and lists/de-lists articles at the same time, I wish I could give it all admins with MediaWiki or something to keep things updated.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 17:59, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Hey, thanks! I have to integrate that all sometime soon (too many things to do, JS has to be integrated well...etc...), but I really appreciate it. I know that there are certain things that only show up in MediaWiki:Monobook.js and Common.js for admins. Y'might want to push this at Village Pump (technical) or at the Monobook.js talk page, because I'm sure this stuff would be really useful. I gotta tell you; my js is seriously rusty, so if you could help me out at all, I'd really appreciate it. My toolbox takes up about half the page, and the more advanced features [menus] of Lupin's popups have stopped working for me in IE (a while ago, in fact). In any event, thanks again, and I'll talk t' ya soon. -Mysekurity [m!] 21:18, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
For some reason, after you went into my monbook.js, it stopped working for me, and all my custom toolbox links disappeared. I hadn't seen that you went in there, but I moved the category to my User page, so as not to disrupt anything. I reverted to an older version of my monobook, and now things work pretty well, but I have no idea what went wrong (if you check the link, it seems there's something wrong with the subst:ing). Anyway, I appreciate the thought, but I guess I'll just be old-fashioned when I update protected pages, and let y'all handle the fancy javascript. I just thought you'd like to know, in case anything's wrong (sorry that my js skills...uh...don't exist). See ya! -Mysekurity [m!] 14:46, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Eesh! I don't even want to go into what happened last time I listened to a "wise bearded man"... Anyway, I can completely understand you on the "trying to trim each and every 'unnecessary' thing" off the code and winding up with something that works less than intended. I guess I should try protection on the Sandbox or other space now, as I agree with you that userspace pages shouldn't be added to the log. While my monbook is pretty much back to what it was before (the toolbar links and popups work again), I think it was the nested nowiki tags that broke the script, rather than anything you did (my fault, not yours). However, I don't see any spiffy p=0 buttons or anything, and I'm kinda sad :'(. If y'could help me out, I'd be more than happy to send over my suite of TI-83+ tools, all written in TI-BASIC, which I hope you will find useful. -Mysekurity [m!] 22:24, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Double eesh! Thanks for trying, I think I'll live in Solitude just updating Protected pages. I think it's more of a thing I have to remember than something I need a tool for (not that much of a pain in the ass to do, just remember). Thanks for commenting on the newmessagehistory() thing, I'd removed it a while ago as it wasn't working, but I didn't do such a great surgery. One of these days I'll fix this spaghetti code. I'll write down what I want in the monbook, and then I'll work on the rest, and I'll ask ya if anything comes up. Thanks again. -Mysekurity [m!] 04:16, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll try to get a more in-depth look sometime this week. Right now, homework. -Mysekurity [m!] 04:27, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Yeah...I had midterms last week and was busy as heck. Now, those are over and I have time to play around. I like java, so helping people debug is not really usually like "work" for me....its kind of fun. You said your toolbox links wen kaput ya? I'll try to run and debug it...are they any other problems? I like fixing script. I'll report back in a few days to show whats wrong.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 04:33, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Signpost

Hello, mate. Could you change the template link on your page from {{signpost}} to {{User Signpost}}? The reason is that {{signpost}} is the perfect name for a template for signpost articles, and as it's a redirect to the latter template only being used by two people (yourself and Chicheley), it'd be greatly appreciated if you'd let me have access to that name by changing over. Blackcap (talk) 18:44, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Hey, thanks a million. Blackcap (talk) 06:17, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Old Skool Esperanzial note

Since this isn't the result of an AC meeting, I have decided to go Old Skool. This note is to remind you that the elections are taking place now and will end at 23:50 UTC on 2006-04-29. Please vote here. Thanks. --Celestianpower háblame 20:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help needed

Hi Jason. I'm contacting you because you helped me with popups and making a signature before. I need your help again in a different matter. An IP only member has been removing my comment from Talk:Calday_Grange_Grammar_School and leaving insulting edit summaries. I don't want to war with this person. Thanks. Prometheus-X303- 17:52, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Blocked[4].Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 18:06, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Thank you once again. In case this sort of thing happens again (which I suspect it will, because previous IP's on that page come from the same place according to WHOIS), what is the best course of action? Prometheus-X303- 18:16, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
PS. Sigh He's back.

[edit] List of sexual slurs

Please join me in user conduct RFC. `'mikka (t) 02:48, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Whitney Houston

I recently asked for semi-protection of the Houston article on the grounds that information is repeatedly removed concerning her well-publicized drug allegations. You claimed that the article didn't warrant enough recent reverts to give it protection. The article gets vandalized— in the form of blankings— at least three-five times a day, and it continuously has to be reverted back. The vandals come in the form of anonymous IP addresses, whose only contributions revolve around protecting the reputation of Houston. Despite warnings on the talk-page and even the article itself, the "negative" information about Houston is repeatedly removed several times a day. It is becoming extremely annoying, and these fans of hers need to cease their unnecessary vandalizing. If you could offer any administrative help to resolve this problem, it would be greatly appreciated by those who check the article on an hourly basis to revert vandalism. —(Notorious4life 05:07, 25 April 2006 (UTC))

I've watchlisted it. Thanks for your concerns.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 05:58, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your comment on the Franjo Tudjman page

Hello!

Thank you for your comment.

1. I have a question: was your comment a response to the RfC I sent?

2. Your comment appears to be based on an earlier version of the page. "Even more atrocious than they actually had been" and "these numbers are widely considered to be inaccurate" aren't present in the present version. Nevertheless, it's very helpful of you to indicate that they shouldn't be restored.

3. Could you please comment on the actual subject of the edit war (1. whether the existence of certain quotes of disputed authenticity deserves to be mentioned and 2. whether a certain fact deserves to be included in the introductory part) and how this conflict might be solved?

--85.187.44.131 14:51, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

The "these numbers are widely considered to be inaccurate" may still get reverted in, perhaps the other one. I just wanted to be clear that statements like that are not exeptable. There is a long, light, edit conflict. The it is not enough to really call it an edit war just yet imo.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 16:16, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Oh, OK. I wonder how you tell the difference between an edit war and a light edit conflict, though. This conflict involves the constant alternation between two versions of the page, so I've been forced to incorporate each of my edits in both versions to make sure they don't get lost in the next revert in a couple of hours. For me, this is as bad as it gets. --85.187.44.131 17:35, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit Request.

There is so much vandalism on the article.. Admins need to watch over the article. So much content has been deleted... Including critical Information on Organ Harvesting, persecution and Tiananmen Square Self-Immolation Incident... Please Compare with thisversion. Many relevant pictures deleted). KIndly allow me to fix a bit of the vandalism before the article is locked. Dilip rajeev 14:51, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

I am trying to use your RC "admin-like" revert tool on my MonoBook page, but I'm not sure I am installing it correctly. Can you help? Thanks, Fuscob 02:47, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I just figured it out, and it does work. Thanks for the great tool! Fuscob 02:48, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit Request

Could you kindly take a look at the Joel Leyden article which is presently being vandalized. This article is nominated for deletion on a daily basis. Nancetlv 01:41, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bob Dylan

I thought I'd let you know that the Bob Dylan article that you unprotected earlier has been reprotected by the user Nlu. I'm telling you this because A) I support your decision to unprotect it, and B) I think it was rather hasty of Nlu to reprotect it seeing as it only suffered one act of vandalism all day. Please look into it. Thanks. P.S. Why is your user page protected? Elvrum 06:09, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stats?

Interesting! But I can't seem to locate it. Where should I be looking for this? · Katefan0(scribble)/poll 16:49, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Hmm. Still don't see it. Is it not compatible with Firefox? · Katefan0(scribble)/poll 17:01, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] How to fix

The reason this may not be working for some people is because you use the function "tnaddlilink()" instead of just plain "addlilink()" to add the statistics tab at the top. You need to make sure that people include that function in their monobook.js along with the link to your script. You can get it from Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Scripts/test-enhanced, I don't know if anywhere else has it.

Other than that, good tool! --bainer (talk) 05:34, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Skowhegan citizens for good government--deleted

Skowhegan citizens for good government: "deleted for a non notable geo-site". Can you be more specific why my site was deleted? I have left the above question on Skowhegan citizens for good government discussion board too.

[edit] For your hard work...

(barnstar moved)

Thanks! I'll move this to my barnstar subpage. Remember to tell be what JS console (under "tools" or such in your browser) says when you go to a history or user contribs page, since it does not seem to be working. I am running Netscape 8 in firefox mode.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 19:28, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
Checking again here... viewing history on a normal article, my toolbox has: what links here, related changes, upload file, special pages, new pages, speedy deletions, vandalism, protection requests, protected pages, noticeboard, 3rr vios, filter recent changes, all recent changes, recent ip edits and monitor my watchlist. I'm using Firefox 1.5, but sometimes also use IE (they're the same options in IE too). Can't figure it! What should the tab be called, anyway? At any rate, no big deal. · Katefan0 (scribble)/poll 20:49, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
You should be tooking at the tabs, after the "watch" tab, not the toolbox.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 20:55, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
No dice there either. There is one new tab ("last"), but otherwise nothing new after "watch." · Katefan0 (scribble)/poll 21:09, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
I just copied in your monobook for mine, and NS8, Firefox 1.5.x, and IE6 all show the new tabs. Either your browser's cache is not cleared or something is wrong with it. The tab works in the same way as the others.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 21:16, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Monobook.js

Can you give me direct link to that page please. Thank you --SasaStefanovic • 03:03, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

P.S. Main editing buttons on toolbar above edit box don't work with your script. All other new buttons work fine and they are great.

Here[5] we go. Copy the short js on the page (do it in edit mode).Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 03:04, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank You For Your Reply

Even though we did not receive the full protection we requested, we appreciate your reply and further clarification regarding the topic.

Regards,

GODDESSY

We sent an e-mail to you regarding another issue. Please let us know if you received it. -GODDESSY

[edit] Wii

Why did you Move Protect the Wii page without giving a reaon on the Wiki Protect page, and I request it to be unprotected withen 9 days so just in case it has to be moved around E3... so if you can please unprotect it no Later then Sunday/Monday. Thanks. DivineShadow218 21:36, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

It was move protected earlier, in addition to being semiprotected, so I assumed that the admin has a reason. Also, his protection summary was:
  • 01:02, April 28, 2006 Jedi6 protected Wii (Blocking move abilities to stop the back and forth of page moves [edit=autoconfirmed:move=sysop])
If you disagree with that reason, then talk to the admin himself. I'll unprotect myself if needed, but it would be better if you talked to User:Jedi6. Thanks.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 21:39, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:The Earth seen from Apollo 17.jpg's size on your userpage

This image's size as 420px in width is overlapping somewhat the left side of your userboxes on your userpage that I saw. Please reduce its size to 320px, so the sight is clear. -- ADNghiem501 09:29, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

It's a wiki. You can make the change yourself and if Voice of All likes it, it will be left! But I didn't see a problem at my resolution. Hope that helps! ++Lar: t/c 13:37, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandal fighter

I was just wondering about your "admin-like tools" javascript code; it works wonders, but somehow it cuts off my popups; now, if I use the popups, the window will pop up. However, the millisecond my mouse enters the small gap between the first and second windows, the second dropdown window vanishes. It isn't a huge problem, but I was just wondering if you had a solution. Thanks! _-M o P-_ 22:09, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Heh...I turned of double popups just because it was annoying, but I never experienced that problem. Then again, I use popupsdev and not regular popups.
// User:Lupin/popupsdev.js - please include this line 
document.write('<script type="text/javascript" src="' 
            + 'http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Lupin/popupsdev.js' 
            + '&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s"></script>');
//
Maybe using that instead that might help.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 01:28, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Alright, I'll try it out. I just replace the current stuff with that, right? And thanks! Its truly an awesome tool (I love the automatic warning system). Also, another small question; could I configure it to give me more talk-warn tabs? I'd like to lay out test 1, 2, 3, 4 and some other templates for myself. Thanks!:) _-M o P-_ 01:32, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
I believe "t" is test1. At any rate, I will rename it to t1 and add t2 and t3 now. Then add some more spam ones. I'd add t2 but it just gets cluttered.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 01:35, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Wait...I'll add t2 instead of t4, since user's with this script cannot actually block since they are not admins.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 01:37, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
T4 isn't block, I don't think... that's final warning. Dunno though. But it works awesome, I like to use it in conjunction with User:Lupin/Filter recent changes. Anyway, thanks! _-M o P-_ 01:52, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
T4 is "I will block if you do it again"...but you can't block, so when they just harrass you and vandalize your pages you have to get an admin in.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 01:55, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
Hmm... for some reason, my popups are still really twitchy. Oh well, I'll get by without 'em. Thanks! _-M o P-_ 01:54, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Protection logs

I'm not sure if you're using javascript to do them, but if you are, you're not pre-pending the namespace to the page name, as shown here. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 06:19, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

That only happened with user pages, and I just fixed it a few minutes ago. But thanks for letting me know about this stuff.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 06:23, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A landslide victory for The JPS (aka RFA thanks)

Hey, Voice of All/Archive6, thank you so much for your vote and comments in my RfA, which passed with an overwhelming consensus of 95/2/2. I was very surprised and flattered that the community has entrusted me with these lovely new toys. I ripped open the box and started playing with them as soon as I got them, and I've already had the pleasure of deleting random nonsense/attacks/copyvios tonight.
If I ever do anything wrong, or can help in some way, please feel free to drop me a line on my talk page, and I will do my best to correct my mistake, or whatever...
Now, to that bottle of wine waiting for me...

The JPS talk to me 21:42, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Left Party (Sweden)

I've unprotected this, cos I've blocked Soman for 3RR, and it looked to me like it was a rather one-sided matter. If you disagree, feel free to re-protect it. Probably best continued at Talk:Left Party (Sweden) William M. Connolley 20:54, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh great. I've reviewed it; I was wrong; I've re-protected William M. Connolley 21:47, 3 May 2006 (UTC)


1. The protection was asked by me with the aim of defending the article of the continuous erasures (starting with November 2005) by User:Soman. However, owing to some unfortunate cicumstances, the very version promoted by Soman and put into effect with five reverts within lesss than 24 h has now been protected. Comments and help on the issue are more than welcome, anyway.
2. I deny User:Advocatus diaboli being my sock puppet, although we are acquainted. More detailed check would prove that different computers are used by Constanz and the newly registered user. Thus, I do not agree with re-establishing version by the blocked user and then protecting it. Even if I, User:Constanz, had made my fourth and fifth revert (just like Soman did) instead of Advocatus Diaboli, the version protected should have been the last one. I do not see any reason for an admin to revert to the previous previous version before protecting.--Constanz - Talk 05:33, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
As we all know, admins should avoid favoring one version of the article over another, unless one version is vandalism. The case concerned, however, does not involve vandalism and the sock puppet claim is unproved; also, this does not justify version changes by admins.--Constanz - Talk 05:45, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sabbath unprotection

I think you might have misunderstood what the request was for. It was under the "requests for unprotection" header. I talked to Essjay about it and he said he would prefer that another admin unprotect it given he was the one to protect it. Hence the reason it was in the list for unprotection. Ansell 00:05, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Warning!

Thanks for the heads up. I thought something looked funny... ;) RadioKirk talk to me 00:55, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

VOA, I assume your stats were not a neutral vote, so i moved it to comments. NoSeptember talk 02:10, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah...thats were it should go. Thanks.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 02:11, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 3rr and page prot

-(Moved to User talk:Voice of All/Disputes)-Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 05:52, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Protection thingy

Thank you, VofAll. Katefan recommended it but I've no idea what to do with it. Can you advise (in words of one syllable)? :-) SlimVirgin (talk) 06:46, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Forgive my stupidity, but how do I copy it into my monobook? SlimVirgin (talk) 06:57, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
Okay, found it. I copied it in, and it cancelled out my block and block log tabs, so I removed it again. Also, it only gave me a protection (off) tab when I looked at my own talk page. Katefan said something about it automatically adding an entry to WP:PP? I may have misunderstood her though. SlimVirgin (talk) 07:08, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
image:wiki-thanks.png Oh, it's working and it's wonderful. No more hours spent filling in forms ... thank you! SlimVirgin (talk) 07:21, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Not mad about Cyde

I find his actions to be unilateral...this has been a persistent problem of his. When others complain about his actions, he acts as if they have the problem. If we started blocking everyone that internally spams, we would be pretty busy. He voted on that Afd and I think there should be a policy against anyone voting and closing an Afd, no matter how one sided the votes are.--MONGO 07:12, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Diffs

No, it was on Wikien-L several months ago - I can't remember when. But he continued to call her a POV pusher and a vandal on her talk page last night. I may have been guilty of hyperbole, but I was pretty annoyed with his threats and hubris - after all, you can't threaten to block someone when you are edit-warring with them. Guettarda 15:10, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletions

Nope. I only deleted the page and User:Freakofnurture took care of the rest. The task was too complex for me, so I let him take care of it. Any and all credit goes to him. Pepsidrinka 16:47, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Templates

Hi Voice, the templates aren't policy. They are just ordinary templates that go on policy and guideline pages. And the change I want to make isn't a major change. (All I want to do is remove the "feel free" and "be bold" advice, because newbies take it literally and try to change policy.) CBD did express his view about this several days ago. When I saw he had protected, I didn't undo it or report it, I just asked him to undo it and allow a completely uninvolved admin to decide whether protection was needed. I agree that we should use common sense as well as the policies to guide us. But when an experienced admin says "I think you may have inadvertently violated policy; please undo your admin action," we should also use common sense there, and take that request very seriously. This whole problem stems from Locke Cole's having taken ownership of these templates. He simply refuses to allow anyone to make an edit he disagrees with and he revert wars to retain his preference. The arbcom is currently dealing with his tendency to revert war, and there's an article RfC about the templates, so it'll get sorted out soon one way or the other. SlimVirgin (talk) 01:13, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Those tags are pretty important, and it is very important to discuss policy page edits first (bad things always happen when people don't), so I agree that a)Adding "be bold" is a very bad idea for policy pages and b)CBD should have just let another admin protect to avoid any issues. Nevertheless, I don't see a definitive case against him. Since the tags are not policy pages, considering that, makes me less bother by it not getting reverted to the status quo. CBD created more dispute by refusing to be gracious enough to just unprotect and let another admin decide. I don't think that was the end of the world, on the other hand, it would have been very easy for him to just unprotect. At any rate, this topic has gone on too long...I thinks its best left in the archives. I'll take note if he does anything similar, but likely this disscussion's existence is not constructive. Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 01:23, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
I agree. SlimVirgin (talk) 01:46, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
The original language in use for almost a year has included "feel free" (with a link to WP:BB). The change SlimVirgin is proposing would remove that and basically require consensus before any changes are made. —Locke Cole • t • c 01:34, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
I've taken ownership of nothing. Stop spreading your flat out blatant lies and assume good faith once in awhile. You are the one who chose to revert war over this instead of discussing it. You are the one who attempted to push through your changes with little or no discussion. You are the one assuming bad faith in everyone else, even admins who have been noted for their neutrality in disputes.
I strongly urge you to consider reading WP:CIV and WP:AGF. You are in desperate need of both. —Locke Cole • t • c 01:34, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Sigh. I came by to thank you for trying to defuse this nonsense, but seeing the above.... oi! For the record, on my 'refusing to be gracious enough to let another admin decide'... please see me asking another admin to decide. I did not unprotect myself because I don't think that is an appropriate response to bullying and harassment by one of the original policy violators. Instead I handed it over to someone else... so please, less with the false statements / insults? It's really starting to get a tad annoying. As to letting another admin do the initial protection... it simply never occurred to me that someone would claim that my previous comment indicated a bias or that completely unrelated edits two weeks ago constituted involvement. Frankly, both claims seem absurd to me (since I know I didn't have a 'side' in the debate), but had I anticipated the assumption of bad faith I would have let someone else handle it... as I did once the issue was raised. So... go ahead and 'take note' of my future actions. I've 'noted' incivility, numerous false accusations, 3RR violation, edit warring, unprotection of pages the person is clearly involved in, et cetera. All leading to this first encounter creating a rather poor impression. --CBDunkerson 02:24, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

When I said "gracious", I was not saying that you are not gracious, but that as a nitpick, you could have just let another admin do it, not because you were seriously involved in the edit war, but just because it might look that way, and it would be slighter better if an admin who did not comment on it didn't protect. That is what I was trying to get at. Do not think that I have not noted the behavoir of others and failures to assume good faith...I've noted it all. As I said, "it is not the end of the world", I don't really think that such a big deal should have made over the protection.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 02:33, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
I had agreed not to comment any more, but for the record, there have been no 3RR violations and no violations of any other policy, and this bad mouthing has to stop. Other people have weighed in with their views and the content dispute is now settled, which means the entire issue is over, unless either Locke Cole or CBDunkerson wish to keep it going. SlimVirgin (talk) 06:27, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
I fully and completely agree with the view of CBD. And I'm very astonished by the behaviour of SlimVirgin, which did by herself revert war on other locations, too. If this should get it's way to ArbCom, I can provide evidence. I strongly propose to SlimVirgin to finally stop with these false accusations. This is getting very annoying. CBD was full well in protecting the template. You clearly were in a revert war with Locke. I would expect a different behaviour from someone with your profile. --Ligulem 21:30, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
I've responded elsewhere to CBD, but just to make clear here that I apologize for my role in this, and did not intend to imply that he was acting in bad faith. It was a simple disagreement about policy interpretation magnified by frustration, which I take responsibility for. Again, my apologies. SlimVirgin (talk) 05:29, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] History javascript

I've left you a message with some questions at User talk:Voice of All/UsefulJS... any commments would be appreciated. It's on my watch list. Thanks! ++Lar: t/c 03:36, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deleting

Hi VofA, I'm sorry to bother you with another query, but I'd like to use your script for restoring edits after deletions. I have one of 1800 edits to do, and someone told me about your thing. I just installed it, or I believe I did, but I lost my block and block log tabs, as well as the new protection tabs (which are brilliant, by the way). Is this a known incompatibility, or did I do something wrong, do you think? SlimVirgin (talk) 20:06, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for installing that for me. It's wonderful, it really is. What with that and the protection script, all these chores are now so much easier. I was faced today with manually restoring 1,800 edits, and had done 600 when Ann told me there was a faster way. And protecting a page is now almost a pleasure, so much so that I'll have to watch not to do it too often. :-) Seriously, these are really helpful scripts. Thank you. SlimVirgin (talk) 01:13, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stats on RFA

Hi. Would you mind telling me how you generate the edit counts stats that you post on RFAs? Thanks! --kingboyk 15:45, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Replied at User_talk:Kingboyk#History. --kingboyk 18:16, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Changes to my monobook

Voice of All,

Hello, how are you? First of all, thanks for creating useful tools for other users. I have greatly enjoyed your history tool. Secondly, I certainly don't mind you (or anyone) editing my monobook if you see problems with the code or various other things. However, I was somewhat confused by your edit to my monobook: [6] Was this some kind of technical error when trying to change something automatically rather than manually? Since you know much more about these things than I do, please take a second to correct this and make whatever change you were trying to make in the first place. Thanks for your time! EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 19:06, 6 May 2006 (UTC) P.S.- Looking through your contribs, this error seems to have occurred on many occasions when you were editing others' monobooks. Perhaps there is some kind of bug in whatever replace-text script you are using. EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 19:10, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

WOA!! I updated my replace script by making it like another users already out there, but sheesh, If I can't fix that bug I'll have to go back to the slow version. It seemed to be working OK before, maybe special characters threw it off. Nevertheless, the non-admins should not be in the admin cat, anyone is welcome to fix that. Thanks for pointing this out.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 19:22, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
No problem. I've personally changed mine: [7] (though hopefully I can change it back sometime in the future). EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 19:45, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Heh...there are reasons why I keep these categories ....:)Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 00:09, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] thanks and a question

first off, thanks for getting rid of lupin's pop-ups from my monobook.js; i was debating whether or not i should leave that there and figured i would and then see what happened . . . secondly, a question. after adding a bunch of your scripts, the shortcuts at the top right changed- eg, it now says "my talk page" rather than "my talk," "change preferences" rather than "preferences". It's not that big a deal, but it's a bit more cumbersome than it was before; i guess i just prefer the more streamlined look up there. which bit of code changed this? and is there some way to change it back? i know absolutely nothing about programming except the most rudimentary html and wiki-markup, so i have no idea how to figure this out for myself . . . But i'm curious as to which bit of code changed this and whether or not i can change it back. thanks again --heah 00:02, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:PP automation

I Would love to have some js tools that would make it easier to PP pages and list them in the appropriate lists. Thanks. ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 02:03, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Is it just your //Admin protection tool at User:Voice_of_All/Protection/monobook.js ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 02:04, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Yep! All my JS is listed on that User:Voice_of_All/UsefulJS.02:07, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #3

The Administrator Coaching program is a program aimed at preparing Wikipedians for Adminship or helping them understand the intricacies of Wikipedia better. Recently, changes have been made to the requirements of coachees. Please review them before requesting this service.
This would be something like the Welcoming Committee, but for people who have figured out the basics of editing articles; they're not newcomers any more, but they might want some help in learning new roles. Some might like suggestions about how to learn vandal patrol, or mentoring on taking an article to featured status, or guidance with a proposal they plan to make at the Village Pump, for example. In this way, Esperanza would help keep hope alive for Wikipedia because we would always be grooming the next generation of admins.
Stressbusters
The Stressbusters are a subset of Esperanza aiming to investigate the causes of stress. New eyes on the situation are always welcome!
Note from the editor
As always, MiszaBot handled this delivery. Thank you! Also, congratulations go to Pschemp, Titoxd and Freakofnurture for being elected in the last elections! An Esperanzial May to all of the readership!
  1. Posting logs of the Esperanza IRC channel are explicitly banned anywhere. Violation of this rule results in deletion and a ban from the channel.
  2. A disclaimer is going to be added to the Esperanza main page. We are humans and, as such, are imperfect.
  3. Various revisions have been made to the Code of Conduct. Please see them, as the proposal is ready to be ratified by the community and enacted. All members will members to have to re-confirm their membership after accepting the Code of Conduct.
  4. Referendums are to be held on whether terms of AC members should be lengthened and whether we should abolish votes full stop.
  5. Admin Coaching reform is agreed upon.
Signed...
Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, Pschemp and Freakofnurture
20:29, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bot

If your new bot is going to run automatically at all, please be sure to list it on Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approvals. Listing there is important to ensure that noone blocks you for running an unauthorized bot, and can be sued to get a bot flag. Generally they approve a trial run first, then bot status in a week ortwo, and a flag, if desired after another week or so. — xaosflux Talk 15:08, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the note, I put my vote of support in for your bot at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approvals. — xaosflux Talk 04:19, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: WP:PP

Hey VoA, long time-no talk. Anyways, I'd assume Splash is busy working on his doctorate, so I can't blame him for being gone. I'm a little bogged down as well, but I'll see what I can do. Maybe I'll even learn something about RFPP...:) See ya 'round. -Mysekurity [m!] 21:20, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dog Protection

Hello Voice of All - a week ago, I requested protection for the topic Dog. I requested three days (didn't want to be too greedy) but you have given (so far) seven. I didn't want to list it on the request for unprotection since I bleieve you'll unprotect it as a normal process. Just a reminder; if you disagree then let me know. --Supercoop 15:38, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unprotecting BBW

FYI, the spamming resumed less then 20 minutes after you removed the protection. We'll see how it goes, but I'll reprotect if it keeps up. --Kbh3rdtalk 17:55, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Given the accusatory behavior of some, I want to avoid the appearance of 'stacking'

But I welcome any and all opinions you bring to the matter. Please feel free to contribute your view to the RfAr. And thanks. -- User:RyanFreisling @ 00:25, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re: MediaWiki

As did I. Thanks! -Mysekurity [m!] 00:50, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Any thoughts of how to proceed from here? Thanks for your comments on that page, by the way. -Mysekurity [m!] 00:58, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A request

Hi, I need an administrator to help me, and since you're the voice of all, I came to you.

A project needs to be deleted. I'm talking about Wikipedia:WikiProject Dardania, here's a thorough explination why the project should be deleted:

Therefore, I ask you to delete this ridiculous project. Thanks in advance, --serbiana - talk 02:30, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry to steal this one from VoA, but Administrators are not allowed to just "speedy delete" (as it's called) a WikiProject that you don't like. It's best if you take your concerns to Miscellany For Deletion, where they can be appropriately handled. -Mysekurity [m!] 03:21, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Protection of the List of SpongeBob SquarePants episodes

I was wondering.....I requested a page protection for the List of SpongeBob SquarePants episodes waited a half hour or so came back logged out and it wasn't semi protected. Why? ForestH2

perhaps because no admin felt that it truly needed to be protected? ++Lar: t/c 02:53, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Well Voice of All said that it was going to be protected....ForestH2

Lar semi'd it, but forgot to tag it. I added it in, and added it to the Protected Pages list (VoA, kindly show him your scripts?) -Mysekurity [m!] 03:23, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

oops. Thanks for taking care of my loose ends. ++Lar: t/c 04:10, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Mys...you didn't have to list it, my bot does that for articles when I run it :).Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 04:22, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Hoo boy! Look at Mr. Fancy! Stupid programming abilities...grr... (I hate because I love, plus I'm jealous). Yeah, bots are all well and good, but there's nothing like a little old-fashioned human interaction and manual labor. This is one of many examples where wiki (and specifically MediaWiki) software is not the ideal medium for everything. In a perfect world, there'd be some sort of page that auto-updates, lets admins know when a week is up, and all that beautiful stuff, and brushes its teeth after it does its homework. Unfortunately, the toolserver is down, and the likelihood of perfection is slim, but one can still dream, no? Thanks and congrats on bothood, Mysekurity [m!] 05:08, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. I am still trying to get formal approval here[8]. I like having it on WP:PP, rather than a list like IP Block list because people can add info under pages, such as a arbcom info or mediation info under a page that may seem like it has been protected forever...that interaction can be useful sometimes. The Bot just gets the basics of why/who/when/what down. It has tribled the SPro section, and I have done a lot of delisting of articles that otherwise may have just been forgot about. Its easy to get the dates, unlike from the category, because it is all parsed and passed in there. Speaking of parse, external links in summaries don't parse right (you still see the HTML tagging); though that is almost never an issue, I'll have to fix that little bugger sometime.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 05:15, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

My scripts....ForestH2

No, not your scripts, nor was I referring to you. You may, however, check out VoA's Useful JS page, which you might like. Just add them to your monobook skin as instructed, and enjoy! -Mysekurity [m!] 04:07, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
Yes...as of a recently, not only does the script list and tag automatically, but it saves the article page after tagging it and opens the confirm protection dialogue with a standard summary and the appropriate protection selected.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 04:17, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RC Monobook.js

Sorry if I seem like a bit of an idiot, but how do I use your Monobook.js RC patrol script? —Vanderdecken∴∫ξφ 14:53, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 3RR

Could you block Zmaj from reverting en:Starcevic over and over not specifying and discussing the matter at all?

Best regards --Purger 22:26, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Romano Prodi

Please reconsider semiprotection at Romano Prodi, where there's a revert war over the KGB allegations, conducted almost entirely by IPs. If we could just get them to log in, then there'd be someone to talk to and try to bring them to the table.

The allegations are probably notable enough to mention, but the section needs to be cut down and balanced. Neither side is engaged in "vandalism", though each accuses the other of vandalism. But there's no one who'll listen; I don't think they even read the talk page, they just keep reverting each other. In this situation, in my opinion, they really should have to log in and provide some fixed target to argue with, rather than letting the article be blown about by djinn riding through the ether. --Trovatore 05:22, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shi'a view of Abu Bakr

In removing the the {{tl|db-attack} tag, you did not offer any explanation of how the article fails to meet the criterion set out in WP:CSD: "Articles that serve no purpose but to disparage their subject." Before I have to take it to AfD, and I will, for this deletion will certainly be controversial, I would like to understand your position. Thanks. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 13:23, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

I saw a possible rewrite...into albeit a smaller article, but is was not an obvious delete, which is the only type of delete I can carry out.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 17:48, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] University of California, Los Angeles

I was thinking it might be time to remove the semi-protection from University of California, Los Angeles, and I probably would have done so this week. However it only took 2 days for the old vandal to return. His vandalism is to revert to a very old version. The big problem is that his vandalims isn't obvious, so other edits start editing on top of it. Someday we may get enough editors watching the page and on the lookout for the vandalism. Can you help? I've reverted it once, and if we have to do so a few more times I'll reprotect it again. It's a pity. -Will Beback 05:23, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Watchlisted.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 05:34, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Criticism of Wal-Mart

I reverted your recent edit to Criticism of Wal-Mart, since I couldn't figure out what you were trying to do here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Criticism_of_Wal-Mart&curid=1046514&diff=53220532&oldid=52764301

Signing your name on the bottom of an article page? I don't get it, oh well... Tuxide 05:29, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

I think I accidently clicked the sig edit button before it saved. Strange, because the summary is from unprotection javascript...ahhh...because I already removed the tag. Thanks for the revert, that sig was definetely a mistake.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 05:34, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
No problem. Tuxide 05:36, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Guinea pig

Happy to be your javaguineapig. =) · Katefan0 (scribble)/poll 14:59, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wrong wikilink

Hey! You added a wikilink for Billie Joe Armstrong but you put it as Billie Joe Armstrong instead of the correct name. Just letting you know.-Zingazin 17:32, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Protection

Hi VoA, I just noticed that your protection thing is filling in edit summaries. For sp, for example, it fills in "massive vandalism" (or words to that effect). The problem is that these aren't always accurate: sp can be against banned users, for example, or vandalism that isn't massive. Just letting you know in case someone else has done this and you're not aware of it. Cheers, SlimVirgin (talk) 01:27, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh es off course...I made those as the standard for most cases. You can past over it with what you want to for special cases, but that makes it easier to deal with the usual protection.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 01:37, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VoABot

I noticed that your bot doesn't (seem to) have bot status. Perhaps you should apply for him/her/it/xem to have bot status? Just in case, you know... haz (user talk) 14:44, 16 May 2006

It is currently at the RfAprov page, Lightdarkness told me to let it run for a while to test it out.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 14:48, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RC patrol script

I love your rcpatrol script, however, I was wondering if I could make a few changes to it on a separate page for my use? --pevarnj (t/c/@) 22:44, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I will turn some of the messages into global variables...maybe. In that case you can replace them by adding the new values for them after the "write SRC=" script lines.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 00:08, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
I am sorry but I don't understand what you mean (or you understand what I mean). What I mean is could I paste your code onto a separate page (in my user namespace) and then change the link on my monobook.js page. You may also wish to remove the line
" tabs.appendChild(tnaddlilink('javascript:testn(3)',"w"));"
I can aee no use for it, you already have a button which performs that action. --pevarnj (t/c/@) 00:23, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Northside prep.

Thanks for unprotecting the Northside College Prep page--I'd written UninvitedCo about at least giving an estimate as to when it would be unlocked or what one could do to demonstrate being a "reliable editor" for the page, seeing as the body of folks who would know about the place is relatively small, and I got the sense he was either busy or disinterested; not that I could blame him for the latter, seeing as it's a small article and its existence is somewhat vain[apparently, the school's administration contacted Wikipedia about some of the antics either former or present students(I am an alum, for the record)], but in predicting that sentiment I'd specifically asked about what one could do to evince some sort of trust out of him that it would be fine to unprotect. He never got back to me, though.


That said, I'm glad someone seemingly more reasonable/less passive-aggressive took care of it.


ps: a. I too am a fan of that ridiculously addictive card game, b. your page here, out of 717,000,000 results on google for the phrase Voice of All[without quotes], comes up second and third, and c. I always thought that was a somewhat pricey casting cost given the nature of planeshift, i.e. multi-colored decks, rendering protection from one color of choice not nearly as cool as it should be.

24.13.8.214 09:15, 17 May 2006 (UTC) russ.

[edit] WP:PP

Hi, I was working on WP:PP today and I noticed that it was very difficult to locate an article in a list in edit mode. Looking closer I noticed that it was because some signatures are unnecessarily long. For instance, this is what yours looks like in edit mode:

'''[[User:Voice of All|<font color="blue">Voice</font><font color="darkblue">-of-</font><font color="black">All</font>]]'''<sup>[[user_talk:Voice_of_All|<font color="blue">T</font>]]|[[Special:Emailuser/Voice of All|@]]|[[WP:EA|<font color="darkgreen">ESP]]</font></sup>

Especially when what I'm searching for is a short article name in a long list, the effect of your signature (and I welcome the work you do on WP:PP, don't get me wrong) is to make it very difficult.

Would you consider reducing the size? Are the email and Esperanza links necessary, given that you can put the Esperanza link on your user page and the emailuser function is built into the user interface? --Tony Sidaway 23:10, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Shortened...and soon I will have protection JS for cologne blue.Voice-of-AllTalk 23:42, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User Page Changes

Per the numerous comments regarding potential proselytization on my user page, I have decided to remove entirely the section regarding the steps in my conversion to Islam. I welcome additional comments on what you believe may be construed as proselytization. Thanks in advance. joturner 23:04, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Editcountitis

Hi,

I've noticed you putting contribution summaries on RfA. Could you do one for me, please, and put it on my talk page? I can't use the Java versions on Internet Explorer. - Richardcavell 23:25, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] help with vandalism/POV user

Hello, I asked for the Josip_Broz_Tito page to be fully protected in hopes that the person putting in unfactual information would discuss the issue or go away (I put a basic summary on their Talk Page) Unfortunately, they have simply moved onto another page and have ignored many comments in which I have asked them to provide evidence to back up their claims. They seem to be bent of writing either a defamitory or nationalist POV inserts which related to the figure I first mention. Can you do anything about this person? All of their contributions (except 1), have mostly been the same message. Thanks --Zivan56 02:43, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sukh's RFA - Thanks!

Thank you for your vote on my RfA. Unfortunately there was no consensus reached at 43 support, 18 oppose and 8 neutral. I've just found out that there is a feature in "my preferences" that forces me to use edit summaries. I've now got it enabled :) Thanks again. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 15:54, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Diff Edit Links

Thanks for the script :) I'll be playing more with it when I get some time (I think I may even endeavour to modify the p-cactions portlet) --Charlie(@CIRL | talk) 15:58, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RFA

Image:One-hundred-WikiThanks.gif Thank you, Voice of All, for voting in my RFA. It closed with a final result of 75/1/0. Now that I am an administrator here, I will continue to improve this encyclopedia, using my new tools to revert vandalism, block persistent vandals, protect pages that have been vandalized intensively, and close AFD discussions. Any questions? Please contact me by adding a new section on my talk page. Again, thanks to all of you who participated!!! -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 23:11, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question about signature

Hello! I have a question about the signature. How can I change my signature form like you signature? I wantto my signature will be in a border and the color will be blue and with a Talk work close it. --MehranVB 09:56, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] popups

I have suddenly started to receive "op or cl null, something is wrong" for every popup. I haven't changed anything, have you?

also, reversion has never worked unless i am admin. it pauses and doesn't continue whilst fetching article history. IE 6/7, windows xp. -- Alfakim --  talk  04:07, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm...I don't have any popup bugs, nor did I change it. All my script that involves popups SRC=, doc.write script...which references popupsdev, which only lupin changes (though I edited it once a while back). As for the godmode bug, that is known to fail for IE, there is a fix for it that some user discovered, I'll try to implement it on the RC Patrol script soon.Voice-of-AllTalk 04:33, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Who wrote popups? Maybe this is just because I'm using IE7 beta, although I think I may have experienced the problem before that... not sure. As for the godmode fix, that'd be really great. Whilst on the topic of IE bugs for popups, it also expands the submenu horribly - i.e. the menu giving options for "un|watch, edit," etc becomes a list spanned out beneath the title.. i.e. fixes would be very nice indeed. -- Alfakim --  talk  11:16, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] You've been truffled by Charlie

Charlie has given you some of his famous Solid chocolate truffles! Chocolate truffles taste good, help moods, promote WikiLove and hopefully make your day better. Charlie also wanted to give you this message: I wanted to make a unique template along the theme of the smiles, and I like giving out truffles. Please let me know what you think!

Hope you find the truffles to be tasty, and make sure you enjoy them with a nice tall glass of milk (they're rich)! --Charlie( @CIRL | talk | email ) 04:35, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VoA

I just saw your edit to VoA and was curious as to what it meant and what you're testing. I would have contacted you by IM but it's stating that you're not online. Thanks! KC9CQJ 05:15, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Trying to revert in IE, but its too garbagey...I'll at least try to get the (restore) link up (which is close to rollback).Voice-of-AllTalk 06:05, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] YTMND wiki

I've been very impressed as of late with your JS coding abilities. Would it be too much of an imposition to ask you to assist with adding some tools (usability and such) on the YTMND wiki as sort of a test for Wikipedia? I need some help in terms of getting it all prettied up. I'm a bcrat there, and I'll give you sysop rights, but any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Mysekurity [m!] 05:57, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Funny that you say that, since I just gave up trying to fix GML for IE, it get to the ParseXMLFunction() and then craps out...and then I realized...why should I sit here debugging, not because the code is bad, but because I want it to work for a shitty garbagy-ass browser that will only just come out with tabs in IE7 (and it still uses retarted jscript and not javascript)...but anyway...my bot is working pretty well, save one small exclusion bug, and I would like to get to work on my manual assisted spelling corrector, but I'd be glad to have a look at this other wiki.Voice-of-AllTalk 06:01, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Wow a spelling corrector.. damn cool. What would be even better would be a Find and Replace for the edit box. Anyway uh... don't give up on IE! don't forget that most people use it. and once Vista comes out with IE7 and tabs, it's likely to get more popular yet. rather than trying to make it work as good as FireFox why not just implement some kind of more bodgey fix so it just works - so that the revert functionality is possible though not as easy. anyway, really great work. -- Alfakim --  talk  11:20, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
I did get restore to work on IE. Just for the hell of it, since IE does get the XML, I may parse it as a string to find the last non-top contributor (and may enchanced while I'm at it to see if the vandal was interrupted by another editor, so it can revert back further, open or XML (not sure which I want) that person's revision, and save it.Voice-of-AllTalk 12:05, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for agreeing to come over—muy appreciated. As for FireFox v.s. IE, I think it's complicated. For the longest time, I was a huge Firefox zealot. Until it crapped out on me. Wouldn't start. When I got it working again, I realized how much RAM it took up, and haven't used it since. I also saw how ugly it was and how it made pages look—pages DESIGNED for firefox. I think one of the main issues is that MW is made for FireFox, and doesn't interpolate well with IE. My limited development abilities tell me to prefer IE for coding, and FireFox for the spirit and unity it represents. Once IE7 comes out of Beta, I know a number of people that will switch back from FF, and the rat race will continue, sadly. Maybe when FF comes out with something even newer and cooler (that's actually useful, and doesn't eat memory, or when I get a new computer), I'll be back and using all the amazing features available to it. Until then,... So yeah, if you want to just create an account (heh..), I'll sysop you, and maybe you can help me out. Or, if you know someone who's good with MW, and customizing it out the ass, that'd be lovely too. Thanks a bunch, Mysekurity [m!] 14:04, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Yes...FF still has mem. leaks...thats why I prefer netscape, among many other reasons. IE also renders pages horridly. The biggest problem with IE is JScript, which needs to be converted to real Javascript, though they are both EMC command children, they just don't behave the same...some have extra goodies in the lib. file, some don't, some can read all standard JS, while others (JScript) can't. Also IE never closes when you click close, it just runs in the background and memory leaks, at least Firefox actually closes, and Nescape 8 has none of these problems. I had 100 windows open in Opera, for only 80mg of RAM.Voice-of-AllTalk 14:28, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, one of these days, I'm going to get around to downloading Opera or one of the millions of other worthy browsers out there. But... do you know anyone who could possibly help out? -Mysekurity [m!] 14:59, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nuclear weapon

So what you are saying is that some moron's right to deface a high quality Wikipedia article with random obscenities is more important than the time of several editors who, instead of making useful contributions to Wikipedia, have to spend all their time reverting vandalism. Wonderful. - Emt147 Burninate! 18:24, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] EWS23's RfA

Hi Jason! I was honored to have your support at my request for adminship. When such experienced editors like yourself supported me, I knew I had to at least be doing something right. :o) Thanks again, and if you ever see something that I could be doing better, please leave me a message. EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 01:58, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

P.S.- If you get a chance, take a peek at my monobook.js, and either suggest changes now that I'm an admin, or feel free to make them yourself. :o)

Thanks for all your help, Jason. I'm glad to know that all of the really major stuff (reverting all edits and page moves) requires several "confirmation clicks" and that nothing can really be done accidentally. EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 08:08, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism Threshold?

You said of the Ted Kennedy web age that there has not been enough recent activity to warrant an sprotect. In the 24 hours immediately following that post, there were 10 edits to the page, all of which were either vandalism or reverting of vandalism. The persistent vandalism saps energy away from those of us want to improve the article rather than just maintaining the status quo. What is the threshold? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Juneappal (talk • contribs).

[edit] Thanks for your monobook!

I was about to come report a problem with your monobook.js at User:VoA, but clearing my cache fixed the error. So nothing's wrong after all, so I decided to just say thanks for the great tools. -Goldom 莨夊ｩｱ 謚慕ｨｿ 16:28, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Admin-like rollback tool

I have your monobook.js script that allows the two click revert-warn function; however, as of late if I use the [revert vandal] option, the window gets the tags, but no warning window opens up. I'm not sure why, but I was just wondering if you could help, as it really is an awesome tool. Master of Puppets That's hot. 04:38, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply! Anyway, purged cache, it still sits on the reverting screen. I'm using the latest version of Firefox. Master of Puppets That's hot. 04:44, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Awesome, I reverted you as a vandal and it worked. Thanks, now I can get back to catching them evil vandals ;). Cheers! Master of Puppets That's hot. 04:52, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
About the blank section; for some reason, they are positioned wrong; I don't know why, but they just are. :P Master of Puppets That's hot. 05:01, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Oh, and I was also wondering; could I please copy your code and move it to my monobook? As I'd like to add some talk page tabs (warnings, welcomes, etc) for myself. Thanks! Master of Puppets That's hot. 16:43, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Falkland Islands

It took Gibraltarian just 4 hours to start vandalizing this page again. I reverted. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 10:57, 26 May 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Protected pages bot

Your bot that maintains WP:PP (great idea by the way) lists some pages that are not protected. There are two ways to unprotect a page. One is just to unprotect it, and the other is to delete it. If a protected page is deleted then undeleted, your bot thinks the page is protected, but it really isn't. Prodego talk 18:35, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I am noticing that bug. I will add a deletion log-->unprotect script tonight, for now, just leave them there. Thanks.Voice-of-AllTalk 18:40, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
No problem, just making sure you knew. Great bot, WP:PP was very ill maintained before. Happy editing! Prodego talk 18:44, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
I would have done it sooner, but was trying to see if there is a more efficient way to do it, but I think I can do it fairly well.Voice-of-AllTalk 18:50, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
It didn't get it in its last sweep (at 20:30, 26 May 2006), either the new filter isn't set up yet, or it is a problem in that you can edit non-existant pages. Which is it? *waits in suspence* Prodego talk 22:43, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
I was looking at HTTP Cookie. Prodego talk 02:16, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh good, that's great! Prodego talk 15:17, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Protection Requests on Bob the Builder & Tweenies

Thank you for responding to the requests for protection on the pages listed. I understand that there is not enough activity as you have said, to justify Full Protection, or even Semi Protection. Might I ask you, what needs to happen to those articles, and over what period of time, to justify protection of either site? Thank you for your time, and your prompt response to my initial postings. Thor Malmjursson 12:27, 27 May 2006 (UTC) Thor's Pet Icelandic Yack (Multilingual)

[edit] Falkland Islands

You may want to reconsider the lifting of the semiprotection. Blocked User:Gibraltarian is back. Check the page history. Thanks, E Asterion u talking to me? 17:18, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Indeed, Katefan0 (talk • contribs • blocks • protects • deletions • moves • rights) said specifically "please contact me before unprotecting", so you should have at least gotten her permission first. Your "been long enough" argument doesn't stand, since on both occasions unprotection has caused the vandalism to restart. 00:24, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
She is welcomed to reprotect...and guess what, that actually happens and I don't care. We try to keep this encyclopedia editible, many admins protect and forget, so I spend last night unprotected 50+ pages. A few may need to be reprotected, but so what, big deal? It gives vandals way too much sway if they can easily get an article locked for months. Admins sometimes try unrpotecion, and another admin may need to redo it, it happens.Voice-of-AllTalk 00:37, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
I've just made some IP blocks. I'd like to avoid having one idiot cause the whole page to be locked.Voice-of-AllTalk 00:39, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
Actually, blocking those 212.120.xxx.xxx IPs for long periods of time isn't going to be of much use. The IPs from 212.120.224.0 to 212.120.255.255 represent the largest ISP in the tiny country of Gibraltar, and many of them are dynamic dial-up IPs. As a result, each time a customer from this ISP connects to the internet, s/he may have a completely different IP than before, and innocent users may be affected by the blocks. 01:11, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
I'll reduce the blocks a bit, and lock if he comes back.Voice-of-AllTalk 01:28, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Secret Society of Super-Villains article

Hello there,

Thank you for removing the protection from the article List of Secret Society of Super Villains members, but I'm afraid it may have to be protected again. A user is constantly reverting the page, against Wikipedia and the Comics Project's policies on naming characters. If you could put the protection back onto the article, it would be much appreciated. Thank you.--DoctorWorm7 04:44, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gibraltarian

Unfortunately, blocking him for 1 week or 60 hours is pointless. Trust me, I know. :) He uses a dynamic IP. So blocking him just doesn't do any good. Look at this. It's the list of all of the IPs he's used. So I understand your thinking but all you can do is just wait him out. If you see him, block him for an hour. Anything more is just going to cause collateral. --Woohookitty(meow) 19:35, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

On paper, that sounds like a good idea. The tricky thing with Gibraltarian is that according to User:Gibnews, that IP range is used by most of Gibraltar. I once tried a range block of the IPs Gibraltarian posts from and Gibnews was upset by it because he thought I was trying to block the entire rock of Gibraltar. So. I have no problems with it, but Gibnews and others might. That's the thing with people like Gibraltarian too. They know that we can't do much to stop them. What I don't get with him is that he stopped for quite awhile. We were actually able to unprotect both Gibraltar pages because he finally quieted down. --Woohookitty(meow) 00:52, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Sigh. He's hitting San Roque, Cádiz too. I really thought we had gotten rid of him. *sigh* He's SUCH a pain in the butt. When he was hitting History of Gibraltar and Disputed status of Gibraltar, it was literally every day for 3 months. Literally, 3 months. And when we protected the articles, he just went to the talk page and hit it constantly too...and RfP as well. --Woohookitty(meow) 00:55, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
(after edit conflict) I figure that when a bot reverts automatically, with no effort anyone (save a computer), the vandal would just give up. Also, reverting like that is lock range blocking for a certain article. Maybe I should propose article specific blocks? Would I have your support on that?Voice-of-AllTalk 00:57, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tawkerbot2 All Caps

Well, it is technically possible but I'm a tad scared of false positives on it, I know I've been known to use all caps edit summaries on AIV and stuff like that and am concerned about reverting a good editors contrib (and then them feel confused about getting a bot revert etc) -- Tawker 20:27, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, is it missing edits that have all caps, I'd think the stuff would be caught by the other filters -- Tawker 01:03, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
It never seemed to revert "ON JUNE 6 2006 WIKIPEDIA WILL MEET ITS MAKER". Maybe others just reverted faster.Voice-of-AllTalk 01:07, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bot

Your bot is stalking me...I'd appreciate it if you'd fix it so I don't get multiple postings. Essjay (Talk • Connect) 05:51, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestion

Would it be possible for you to program your bot to:

  1. "View source" of each protected page
  2. Determine whether it contains a template call similar to "{{[\s_]*[Dd]eleted[\s\-_]*(?:[Pp]age)?[\s_]*}}", or
    • Anything other template that might redirect to it, or
    • Wikitext that might match the subst'ed form of the template, such as:
    • "\[\[[\s_]*[Cc]ategory[\s_]*\:[\s_]*[Pp]rotected[\s_]*deleted[\s_]*pages.*\]\]", or
    • "should[\'\s_]+not[\'\s_]+be[\s_]+re\-?created", etc.
  3. Append a listing to the WP:SALT instead of WP:PP if it appears to match?

If you can do that, populating the protected redirects section should be equally easy, if not more so. — May. 29, '06 [11:20] <freak|talk>

I don't bother doing D.P.s (my currently just filters them out), though maybe I'll program in redirects, but they are not true pages (actual content), just like D.P.s so I am not sure if I will. I don't know how this would help with protected redirects, I guess I could xttp request all these (like by "Sleeper check" tool) and look at the xml without parsing it (I set the contribs limit to 1, so as not to waste wikibandwith). As for redirects, I could check for #(R|r)(edirect|EDIRECT)([[| [[). Still, I am not sure how much I care maintain the Uber-ginomous list of non-pages/cruft that was deleted and does not really matter. I think a category page would suffice for these. WP:PP and any other hand written list is good because a)it is organized categorically b)you can write brief comments on it, and c)I can easily see many articles that are locked for too long, which lets me know what to unprotect, and hence, better protect the "wiki way". I don't know about D.P.s.
Does [Dd] look for D(next) or d(next). And all this time I've been using (D|d)rest. I am still learning about regex so the use of ? and especially $ are things I am studying.
Come to think of it, my bot doesn't use any regexes, though User:Voice of All/History/monobook.js is flooded with them. Tonight, I will convert the bots D.P. filter passes into regex for better speed/accuracy.Voice-of-AllTalk 18:03, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Hmm... Too bad the site doesn't allow monobook.py files. I'd be able to help you a bit more that way. — May. 29, '06 [19:33] <freak|talk>
I suppose, though I do not use a monobook file, I use a JS userscript on my harddrive.Voice-of-AllTalk 19:45, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you for your comments in Lar's RfA!

We are here to build an encyclopedia!

Hi VoA, and thank you for your supportive comments in my request for adminship! With a final tally of (109/5/1), I have been entrusted with adminship. It's been several weeks since the conclusion of the process, so hopefully you've had a chance to see me in action. Please let me know what you think! Thanks again, and I will do everything I can to justify the trust you've placed in me! PS I really appreciate all your .js magic and the personal help you've given me, it's swell... and GOOD JOB on your bot stalking essjay... SOMEBODY needs to! (grin). If it ever stands for admin like Mathbot did, LMK, I'll support... ++Lar: t/c 03:25, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
Adverts: Like The Beatles?... Like LEGO?... In a WikiProject that classifies?... Are you an accountable admin?... Got DYK?...

[edit] User's last 5000 edits

I noticed on Computerjoe's RfA that you had a "User's last 5000 edits" summary. Where did you get this from? I'd be very interested in this, especially how it determined edits as notable or not. Thanks, – Xolatron 19:10, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Never mind, I found it: User:Voice_of_All/UsefulJS. I feel like an idiot. You made this? Wow, nice work. – Xolatron 19:14, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
I am doing some regexing, so it may not work for a few minutes, just press cntrol-F5 and try again if it fails.Voice-of-AllTalk 19:42, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:VoA/monobook.js

I have that downloaded in my monobook, and I need to report two problems: First, when you warn a registered user, it puts, "If you are a shared IP, ignore this" (or something like that). Second, it has problems rolling back pages with ampersands (&) in them (so does VandalProof). Thanks, --GeorgeMoney T·C 21:50, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm glad both of those problems have been sorted out, but I have another problem. Sometimes vandals make more than 6 edits, and the rollback doesn't work. Is there a way to change that number per individual? --GeorgeMoney T·C 05:30, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
I've never seen a vandal make six vandalisms in a row from a single name/IP. I have seen revolving IPs do it (or maybe its just group vandalism). In such cases, consider using the "restore" tab. Making a low edit limit makes it go fast, though I may rack it up to 8.Voice-of-AllTalk 05:33, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Well, it might not be that much of a problem, because it only happened to me once :) --GeorgeMoney T·C 05:36, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
I just[9] set it to 8 now.Voice-of-AllTalk 05:44, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Eight would be reasonable. There would be no way someone could make 9 vandalistic edits in a row with out getting reverted and/or blocked. --GeorgeMoney T·C 05:52, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Will the limit is 8, so the vandal could make up to 7, the eight has to be the other user.Voice-of-AllTalk 07:15, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Another Problem

Whenever someone uses the "restore" link, they get an edit summary "JS: Revert to revision 56039907 by edit". That happens every time. --GeorgeMoney T·C 01:12, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Now it works perfectly. --GeorgeMoney T·C 04:02, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

I am unprotecting Thatcher - hopefully the vandals have gone. PMA 07:50, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Indeed

There's a lot of hatred in the world. And ultimately, we're all made to choose every day we live whether we act out of hatred, or whether we cast off that baggage and act out of compassion. And it's certainly not easy for any of us, to say nothing of people whose core ideology consists of so much hate. Really, I feel sorry for people who have nothing but their hate to fuel their lives.

And it's funny you mention trolls, because I've found it's that same process that's underway in the mind of someone who would intentionally disrupt a community with endemic deception. Such amorality and persistence is fed by an intense self-loathing - and that sounds a lot like a pathetic and horrible way to live. Anyway, I really appreciated your note - thanks for reaching out. -- User:RyanFreisling @ 16:33, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Seeking Editor Review Commentary (If You Like)

Hi. In conjunction with my RfA (that you voted on), I have created an editor review, to give people a chance to comment as to ways in which I can branch out or alter my contributions to Wikipedia. An RfA seems to solely focus on how one's temperament and contributions relate to how they might handle administrative powers (and the consensus on that seems to be that I'm not quite ready); the editor review opens things up a little more to a larger focus, and I'd love to hear community feedback in the sense of that larger focus, too. If you feel you've already expressed yourself sufficiently when casting your vote, then by all means don't worry about it, but if any thoughts come to mind or if you'd like to expound upon any suggestions or commentary, it would be appreciated. In any case, I appreciated you taking the time to express your opinion on my RfA, and I thank you for that. — WCityMike (talk • contribs) 19:53, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Monobook

Sorry to be such a pain, but the monobook is being wierd on me again; now, if I click "Revert Vandal", it'll tell me that the last editor wasn't the editor before the last edit. In other words, if an IP vandalises, it'll say "Sorry, <IP> is the last contributor, the vandal already may have been reverted." Thanks for putting up with me, Master of Puppets FREE BIRD! 01:23, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

See User talk:Voice of All/Archive/2007/November#User:VoA/monobook.js --GeorgeMoney T·C 01:27, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Both of you should try clearing your browser caches, as I did update a few hours back.Voice-of-AllTalk 04:01, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

Check the link you told me about.--Dakota ~ 19:16, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh thanks! I really like the lower right one, too bad the res wasn't higher...great pic though :).Voice-of-AllTalk 01:46, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Check the other two hope you like them. Want some more or is that enough?--Dakota ~ 07:10, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Thank you for your kind words. ILovePlankton 19:48, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FA blurb protection

I recently got this message from VoABot. I regularly protect main page FA blurbs with no summary and do not list them on the list of protected pages. Could you add some sort of filter to ensure I do not keep getting these messages? Raul654 21:34, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

If you throw in FA or anything, it won't do that. Well, I suppose I can check the var artname and .search is for "(F|f)eatured".Voice-of-AllTalk 21:42, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
While I'm at it, what are all the articles/templates you regularly protect, so that I can Regex them in.Voice-of-AllTalk 21:44, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
That's the only one that I know of - the selected anniversaries are all static and already protected, ITN and DYK come from a single already-protected page. Raul654 21:50, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
OK, thats what I thought, but I wanted to be sure. It should not give you any notices over that page anymore, so you can delete the current one now (and it won't come back, if it somehow does, then tell me).Voice-of-AllTalk 21:52, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Isn't the Main Page version of POTD done in a similar way (unique protected subpages for each day)? -- ALoan (Talk) 22:53, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
I added that in just in case.Voice-of-AllTalk 21:21, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Percentages

Article edit summary use (last 137 edits) : Major article edits: 88.24% Minor article edits: 100%

How is this possible? The total edit major/minor one is off too. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:52, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

When editors just don't leave summaries or click minor, that happens. Mathbot picks it up too. Not everyone has higher %s for minor edits though. Now that you bring that up, mathbot definetely is bugged, it says 80% sum usage for last 12 article edits (out of 150), I can only find like 4 out of like 200 article namescpace edits (all of which had summaries, page moves to be specific). Additionally, Fellocity's tools always pick up a extra distinct pages edited. I know this because I check the contribs pages, my tool also markes up the contribs pages with what it though was what, so I no when it messes up (and it is not messing up).Voice-of-AllTalk 01:45, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

For protecting Serbia, it was getting quote annoying. --estavisti 10:19, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FYI

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Israeli_apartheid_%28phrase%29

Cookies!
Cookies!

Cookies for great work coding the bureaucrat script! Thanks! Essjay (Talk • Connect) 11:34, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VoAbot

VoAbot removed a page that's still protected. I put it in the wrong place by accident but it is still protected. Thought you should know Ashibaka tock 15:02, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

I figure that maybe the summary D.P. regex (can't be length) filter is somehow picking it up as deleted. It was never deleted and restored, so there is no issue there either. I'll see if I can fix this...strangeVoice-of-AllTalk 16:47, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why did you remove votes on an RfA?

Could you explain this edit please? I'm rather surprised. --Durin 16:36, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

All I wanted to do was add ( and ) around the UTC. I don't know what the hell happened, thanks for fixing it though.Voice-of-AllTalk 16:38, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
  • I presumed it wasn't vandalism, not from you. Test your grenades before pulling the pin and chucking them at RfA :) --Durin 16:42, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Filter for spam?

Hey Voice of All, Regarding Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam#We_are_all_looking_forward_to_killing_this_spam my posting about a persistent spammer (probably from zombies or bot net), someone suggested that you add the term "fsorward" to a filter you maintain. What can you tell me about that? Thanks, OhNoitsJamieTalk 18:30, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

I do have a bot, though its job is maintanence, not RSS triggered reversion. A bot that could easily be addapted to that task is User:Tawkerbot2. Contact User:Tawker for more info.Voice-of-AllTalk 20:32, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Great, thanks! OhNoitsJamieTalk 21:17, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Archive

Yes, I do archive a tad too much (OK, way to much), I'll leave them up for twenty-four hours from now on. Prodego talk 22:52, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Maybe I should add completed / denied requests sections, as is done at WP:RFCU. I"ll bring that up on the talk page. Prodego talk 22:56, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
I may just make VoABot archive them, most likely.Voice-of-AllTalk 22:59, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
That would be great. Prodego talk 23:39, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Essjay and Checkuser

As far as I know Essjay was never an arb, he's basically the only non arb ever to have checkuser -- Tawker 00:11, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Eeep.

Small problem in the script; I used it tonight to close both a failed and a successful (though Taxman edit conflicted me on the successful one), and I noticed that the script is leaving the voting link when doing the close. Basically, it's doing:

'''[<link> Vote here]''' to '''[<link> Final]'''

We don't actully leave the link in when closing, however; breaking the link is supposed to be a sign (along with the backgound color, etc.) that voting is no longer open. Is there a way it could do:

'''[<link> Vote here]''' '''<tally>...''' to '''Final <tally>...'''

Basically, remove the link entirely, and the middle two sets of bold markups, and replace it with just an opening bold markup and "Final"?

Have a look at this diff to see the exact change that is made when closing. I appreciate it greatly, otherwise it works wonderfully! (Feel free to edit User:Essjay/bureaucrat.js directly, if you like.) Essjay (Talk • Connect) 03:28, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Done.Voice-of-AllTalk 05:16, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Sorry for butting in, but I think the script should automatically notify the user of a failed or successful RfA. --GeorgeMoney T·C 19:43, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Thanks
Voice of All/Archive6, thank you for participating in my RfA. Unfortunately, a great number of oppose voters felt that I lacked experience, and a consensus was not reached (the final tally was 30/28/10). Perhaps I will try again in another few months when I have a few more edits under my belt. If I do, I hope I can count on your support. Thanks again! Cool3 talk 20:27, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VOAbot

You are really doing a great job with keeping the page protection pages up to date. It is so much easier with the bot. I assume you know, but the experimental WP:RFPP archiving function is not working. Keep up the good work! Prodego talk 01:45, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Actually it was working there. See the "2" in the summary, it removed the last 2 request of "protection requests". The problem is that it is failing to dump them into the archives. I am going to overhaul it tonight, it will instead delete them, and not archive them. The difference is that it will be more time based (so 6+ articles may stay in each section for a while before some get knocked off).Voice-of-AllTalk 05:38, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Prot script

I finally got around to update mine,[10] but then it stopped working. Did I do something wrong? -Splash - tk 02:53, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

In fact, I just rolled that edit back, and it's not apparently working even so. -Splash - tk 02:55, 3 June 2006 (UTC)Oh, maybe I'm wrong. But I thought I used to get fp, sp etc buttons, and now I just get protectio (on/off). I'm a bit confused, and a two glassessome wine worse for the wear, so I'll just go back to the way it was a few mins ago. -Splash - tk 02:57, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Thank you for the trust that you had in me when you supported my Request for Adminship. The nomination ended successfully and I am actually overwhelmed by the support that I received. Thanks again! -- Kim van der Linde at venus 06:21, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your votes on Siva1979's second RfA

Hi Voice of All, my RfA Analysis bot found [11] that you've voted both for and against Siva1979's 2nd RfA. Can you please clarify your vote? Thank you, Tangotango 08:03, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Carlos Mencia

When you did this you forgot to unprotect the page so it's done now. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 10:26, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Faulty edit by VOAbot

Last edit of Wikipedia:Requests for page protection deleted one headline that shouldn't have been deleted. I take it you fix the edit as well as adjust the bot's behavior. __meco 11:03, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

What section? Its seems fine to me, though I am fixing some small \n bugs.Voice-of-AllTalk 16:44, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
It really isn't hard to spot. If you look at the page history you will see that VOAbot has made an edit, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection&diff=56642730&oldid=56640677, and this edit includes erasing a header and displacing several others. Then the next edit, belonging to Duja mends the mess right afterwards. __meco 19:16, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
I don't see any erased headers, I do see \n bugs that cause headers to appear right after text, like TEXT===next header===. I am already trying to iron those bugs out. Sections may appear to "dissapear" if the header does not have \n before it.Voice-of-AllTalk 20:12, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
You are right. The headers disappeared, however, they were transformed into plain text, they weren't deleted. But, as you could see, it all became quite confusing. __meco 20:35, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
Sorry about that, I was getting confused b/c you said they were deleted. I think I finally just fixed this annoying bug, check WP:RFPP, I just ran the bot there.Voice-of-AllTalk 20:48, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
It appears VOAbot has transgressed again in the same manner as before. You will look into it, I am sure. __meco 10:44, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
I added an error corrector for that bug.Voice-of-AllTalk 18:28, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Oversight

Currently, the oversight privilege has only been awarded to current members of arbcom and Essjay, who already has checkuser, (and Jimbo and Brion of course). This was due to the question being brought up on the arbcom mailing list. We decided that was the most obvious and least controversial first batch. There hasn't been much of a discussion of expansion yet–is there a need? I haven't really found much use for it yet– but I think the general feeling is that we will be more liberal in handing this out to people than we are with CheckUser. Other possibilities are former arbitrators, bureaucrats, prominent vandal fighters, and other trusted admins. I don't know if there are going to be plans to expand it for a bit now; we need to see what the demand is at. If you think you have a convincing case though, fire off an email to me and I'll forward it to the list. Dmcdevit·t 20:12, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talkin' to a bot!

You do know that you are talking to a bot, yes ? :D...anyway, I've noted the above. These messages are mainly to serve as a little reminder, not a demand for an explanation. Thanks.Voice-of-AllTalk 22:49, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I'm quite aware of that. I just wanted to state "for the record" what had happened so people wouldn't think I'd protected some article without a good reason. Best, --Alabamaboy 23:45, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:VoA/monobook.js

I have another bug (well not really a bug, more like a typo) on the User:VoA/monobook.js RC script. When you go to an article page's history and press the "stats" tab, a window pops up saying, "If this fails to generate a report, please make sure you time preferences are like". The you should be your. --GeorgeMoney T·C 03:47, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Corrected.Voice-of-AllTalk 04:48, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
I've taken your idea for UTF-8 characters in vandale usernames (escape()==encodeURI()), because in de: for some names it didn't work. I added some new error messages (in de: idea from :Benutzer:Kohl), can you plz check the english/ typo (in the top lines)? --Olliminatore 21:28, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My Thanks

I wanted to drop a brief note on your talk page (one admittedly not written to you only, but nevertheless truly meant) to thank you for your vote in my Request for Adminship, which concluded this evening. Even though it was unsuccessful, it did make clear to me some areas in which I can improve my contributions to Wikipedia, both in terms of the areas in which I can participate and the manner in which I can participate. I do plan on, at some point in the future (although, I think, not the near future), attempting the process again, and I hope you will consider participating in that voting process as well. If you wish in the future to offer any constructive criticism to me, or if I may assist you with anything, I hope you will not hesitate to contact me. Thanks again. — WCityMike (T | C)  ⇓ plz reply HERE  (why?) ⇓  04:28, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Bhadani has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk pages. Happy editing!

--Bhadani 09:14, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mwahahahaha

I have a new challenge for you; this one should be so simple you can do it in your sleep. I'd like a dropdown menu (like the ones I already have coded in my js for user/talk pages) that will show up in the edit view of RfCU, and will do a very simple task: Insert the Wikipedia:Requests for CheckUser/Indicators templates for me at the bottom of the section. (The only one not listed there is {{fishing}}, because it's too long for the box.) If you could whip up something like the RfA closer, that will stick in that dropdown on the edit page of RfCU, and allow me to click "confirmed", etc. and have the template (and if at all possible, my signature) inserted, it'd be very helpful. Thanks! (Oh, and I posted some additional info on the clerk stuff on my talk page.) Essjay (Talk • Connect) 16:55, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merecat RFCU

Hi, Voice of All. You deleted my comments from the RFCU on Merecat, with the edit summary "rm repetition".[12] Could you elaborate on that? Thanks. -- noosphere 18:20, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, but Essjay is having a hard time running the entire page, especially when each requests gets bogged down in commentary and complaints, many of which, after the first one, no longer have any diffs not add anything new. Essjay has requested clerks to help him sift thought the clutter, so I have been trying to do that for him. Some removed comments were just rift-raft while others just didn't add much. I tried to preserve anything useful. Sorry if any of your comments were removed, but RFCU is dead unless either Essjay gets some help or other checkUsers pitch in.Voice-of-AllTalk 18:26, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your prompt response, Voice of All. I fully understand that the extraneous bickering on that page has gotten way out of hand. And I support you weeding out useless comments.
My comments did include diffs pertinent to the RFCU's discussion. But, looking back at them I see that they weren't actually on the users specifically named in the RFCU proper. So I guess I'll just consider asking for a separate RFCU to be run on that user to whom the diffs specifically pertained. Thanks again. -- noosphere 18:39, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I did find some people that started trowing out spurts of 5 more names over different but similar cases under one request. Perhaps you could repost the comment as a separate request.Voice-of-AllTalk 19:25, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
It was actually regarding a possible sockpuppet of the same user, so I've now made a formal request to RFCU that possible sockpuppet as well. Thanks for your help. -- noosphere 22:04, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] arabesque1.mid

it's up for speedi deletion , since it's "non commercial with permission only" -- Drini 20:55, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] CheckUser

Can you also make a "clerk" srtipt to help with jobs like moving things to proper sections, etc... --GeorgeMoney T·C 22:21, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Slow down :D, I have a "move to fullfilled" tab thingy, that will move the entry of a certain name down, as long as you are looking at the whole page. But I have two major finals to study for, and between my bot, some bugs it has (which it seems like null edits can fix), and BCrat and checkuserscript, clerking, protection stuff...I just need to slow down a bit.Voice-of-AllTalk 22:28, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
I hate those stupid finals :( . I am supposed to be studying, but WP is so addictive. One time, I came back from a wikibreak, and was less addicted to WP than I was before my wikibreak. Then, I found out I was addicted to being addicted to Wikipedia, so there is no way out of it. So if I lose my addiction to being addicted to Wikipedia, then I will be addicted to being addicted to being addicted to WP. And if I lose my addiction to that [rest of comment cut out because it will be <infinity symbol> pages long if I keep going] --GeorgeMoney T·C 22:36, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
I just spend the last five min coloring in the tabs at the top of my pages (and thinking the border a tad). Delete looks pretty now :).Voice-of-AllTalk 23:01, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
When I wanted to make changes to the color of tabs, all I had to do was copy MediaWiki:Monobook.css into my css and alter it. I also copied http://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/monobook/main.css into my css and altered that. I also created User:GeorgeMoney/UsefulCSS (copied from your UsefulJS :) ), and made special voting icons that only appear to me so nobody gets mad :) . I also created WP:WPCSS (which doesn't have very many members) --GeorgeMoney T·C 23:11, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Hehe...you don't have to copy all that in, just .getElement and replace the childnode's text :D.Voice-of-AllTalk 23:13, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
I like it to be more personal. So, instead of importing a page, I like to copy it. It is easier to make modifications without having to look at the main page first. --GeorgeMoney T·C 23:17, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] KI’s user page

Hi, I just want to point out that the statement which you apparently interpreted as a comment on Bush is more probably a statement about Hu Jintao, formulated as an appeal to Bush. This is a fairly minor point, but I’d like to contribute it anyway in the hope that it removes a small bit of accidental misunderstanding. (Disclaimer: Although I do currently hold views of varying intensity on Bush, Hu and KI, this note does not contain any of them and should not be construed as a statement of such views, or any kind of expression of opinion of any other person.) —xyzzyn 01:54, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Stevioli unblock request

You blocked this user back in March for being an impostor. He's now come back and left an {{unblock}} template, claiming that "I assume that i was blocked after I copied someone elses userpage to use as a template but never got around to modifying it enough to accurately reflect myself. I dont believe that i deserve an indefinite block for this act as i dont even really care about having a user page i was just playing around in my page with wikipedia page design." Seems a fair enough claim - would you consider unblocking? --Sam Blanning(talk) 12:24, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Unblocked.Voice-of-AllTalk 04:26, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. --Sam Blanning(talk) 13:06, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VoAbot just whacked the "unprotection" requests header...

...with its last archive. :) Syrthiss 14:24, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Small bug in your bot

Hey there. There seems to be a small bug in your bot, have a look at this edit. Everything looks fine, but the "Current requests for unprotection" section is suddenly missing in the table of contents. I can't find out why tho. When I edit and save the page without doing anything, it's back, as seen here. --Conti|✉ 14:25, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I have no idea why that happens, but a simple null edit fixes it. In other words just do nothing and save and it will go away. It didn't happen last time though. The bot is programed to make null edits if needed.Voice-of-AllTalk 15:48, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Okee, thanks. Syrthiss 17:42, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:WikiProject Television Stations

Hi Voice (is it OK to call you by just your "first" name?)

I saw you recently (last few days) left a note on some WP:TV station members' pages for violating WP policies. Although you left messages for two of them, in fact there are five who fight, endlessly revert each others' work, labelling it as 'vandalism'. Violations of 3RR, WP:Civil, legal threats, wikistalking, stupid requests for comment, harassment, much more. They've even taken the fighting to MY talk page, when they have no fight with me. These five users are User:CFIF contribs, note the mass reverts), User:CoolKatt_number_99999 contribs, note the mass reverts), User:Boothy443 contributions, note the many reverts, User:Kirjtc2 contribs, note the mass revertions, User:Rollosmokes contributions, note the mass revertions. I've tried to talk with them, I've tried mediating. Nothing works. I figured I'd ask here, since I have no power to do anything about it, and you'd already noted there was a problem. This fight has been raging for weeks, and it doesn't seem like it will ever get better. Ideas? Is it even possible for you to step in? Would you even want to step in the middle of five warring users? --Firsfron of Ronchester 14:29, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Oversight

They already have. Prodego talk 17:04, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Headers in vandal warnings

All of a sudden, when I use one of the warning tabs, the warnings' headers don't render properly. Any idea what might be going on? (ESkog)(Talk) 00:34, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! (ESkog)(Talk) 06:04, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] stubhub

Protection dropped from Stubhub and, behold! another freshly-minted user initiates the "CONTROVERSY" headline on his first edit. Ben-w 04:04, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unprotection

Six hours later the Snoop Dogg page was vandalized...again. Lajbi Holla @ meWho's the boss? 12:48, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Another vandalism. Please protect it again. Lajbi Holla @ meWho's the boss? 21:19, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
2 vandalisms does not warrant protection.Voice-of-AllTalk 21:38, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jodie Marsh

Don't be too optimistic that this won't be vandalised again soon. The dummy who was doing the vandalising is still spilling bile on the talk page most days. Jess Cully 15:11, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Yes, the vandal has returned. I'll just go and revert. Jess Cully 19:46, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] UTCclock.js

I know that you did not make the UTC clock script, but there seems to be something wrong with it now. The clock does not display the seconds. This is what I see: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 16:24: UTC

The clock was working before today. I see you changed the script between June 4th (when it displayed properly) and today. I would appreciate any help. Thanks. — Super-Magician (talk • contribs • count) ★ 16:27, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

I turned of the seconds due to technical reasons, the extra : is now gone. It now also acts as a purge tab.Voice-of-AllTalk 19:38, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] PP

sorry about my tone; I was in a polemic mood after various discussions. I appreciate the work you do keeping protections under control. I apologize and will remember to provide a summary in the future. regards, dab (ᛏ) 19:46, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Essjay's RFCU closing templates

Look at Template:Rfcua (goes at the top) and Template:Rfcub (goes at the bottom). You lost me with your answer about automating the archiving process. Currently, the process is to remove the transclusion from the main page and add the name of the transcluded page plus the name of some of the socks to the /Case page. I don't know if it needs to be automated; once the backlog is cleared there should only be a few per week. You don't have to explain it to me, if you can make the tool I can learn to use it (eventually) :).

I think we added the closing templates after you left the chat. The problem was what happens if someone opens a new request on the same user; since that opens the same subpage. By adding the templates (which have noincludes in them) then the evidence in the new case shows on the main page but the evidence in old cases is hidden. It seems to work ok. The only downside is that when you try to open a new request on a previous case, the edit window is full of the old case and the editor will have to ignore that, go to the bottom, and add the new case at the bottom. I hope it will not be too confusing for people. I wonder if it is possible that if someone tries to create a new case on (for example) Lightbringer, that the script would detect the existence of /Case/Lightbringer and instead create a new case /Lightbringer-2. Then we wouldn't need the closing templates. However for long-term problem editors we would have many many subpages (/Lightbringer-16?) while currently all the cases will be visible on one page in the archive. Plusses and minuses either way, I guess. Thanks for inviting me in last night, by the way, I learned a lot. I hope I contributed a tenth of that back. Thatcher131 22:08, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Well that was just embarrassing. I was on AIM with Essjay and Prodego last night working through the subpage system. {{dopeslap}}. Thatcher131 00:33, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nikola Tesla

Why did you remove semiprotection? I monitor hundreds of pages and this is one of the articles which needs this most. ---CH 00:25, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Its been locked up for too long. Notice the header of my talk page, I am the only admin that bothers to unprotect pages that have been locked up forever and are still listed on WP:PP, if vandalism does return (for usually 1-2% of the articles), then I will re-lock. Thanks.Voice-of-AllTalk 00:32, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bug

I am not sure if this is a bug or not, but whenever I load a diff, I get a box saying,

/w/index.php?title=Some_random_page

Some Editor

OK button

--GeorgeMoney T·C 00:59, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Its a temporary debugging thing, I am still doing it for the admin JS, but VoA/monobook debugging is done, so clear your cache and they should be gone. Thanks.Voice-of-AllTalk 01:02, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Cleared my chache, and it's still happening. I cleared it at 01:02 UTC --GeorgeMoney T·C 01:05, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
(after edit conflict). Sorry I still left them in there...Opps. Ok I just removed them now[13].Voice-of-AllTalk 01:06, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Ok, now it works properly. Thanks, --GeorgeMoney T·C 01:08, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Erebus555

In boredom I was checking links from my page, and I was happy to see Erebus getting another Barnstar. My thought when I checked the user's contributions when I gave the first one was "Dayum," southern for an impressive "Damn!" Seeing your tool's couts, it's even more impressive. Thanks for all your contributions. Teke 01:57, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your message

has been received, but I think it's rather soon to make the request, given that we do not yet have agreement yet on its proper use; certainly it could stand to be expanded, but I wouldn't put up a request yet. I think there will be some sort of announcement made to admins when a procedure for requests is decided... Sorry for delays; I've been busy elsewhere. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 04:25, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank You

Thank you for supporting my Request for Adminship! I appreciate it and will do my best to maintain the faith you have shown in me! – Ben W Bell talk 07:02, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ripped off your monobook.js

My old one User:Lar/backup/monobook.js was just a mess and I decided to start fresh, so I cribbed yours. I had to change my monobook.css to get tabbed dropdowns to work though, just including the prereq function did not work for me. I now have a lot of neat functionality!! But there is still more functionality I would like to get, like the AfdHelper stuff to help with commenting on AfDs (which I had before), and the toolbox entry for noming an article for AfD that I used to have, and adding in some additional tabs with dropdowns (I'm thinking of in addition to the warning stuff, having another tab for welcoming stuff, anon and non anon, graphical and not, when on user talk pages) and also some func to help with blocks and with closing AfDs... (for an example of some of that see user:Pschemp/monobook.js which I found nosing around looking for people to crib from... see also user:Cactus.man/monobook.js for more neat func I was playing with) Can I add functionality to my own monobook to call those sorts of functions or do I have to take a copy of the functions it calls (which all are yours) and hack it in there? Put another way, for tabs, can I safely add more tab add code in a different place without it munging things up? Adding toolbox entry code should be easy enough. (please don't read this as a request to go edit my stuff like you did before, I need to get better at this myself)

Some sort of call tree that shows how all your code interrelates might be a helpful thing to add to your writeup on the UsefulJS page... Feel free to refactor this to somewhere else if this isn't the right place to talk about this. I'll watch this page as is my wont.++Lar: t/c 15:46, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

I'll respond more later (I just changes Dakota's monobook), but check the "remove" tab, it has AfD,PfD, and Cvio.Voice-of-AllTalk 15:48, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
I must have broken somehting in my ripoffs because I went to an article (Alex Kapranos) page and I don't have a remove tab... it has edit, revisions, protection(off), delete (in red), rename, watch, purge, further... (was I on the wrong sort of page?) HOWEVER the much desired "nominate for afd" does show up in the toolbox links when on an article so ignore that bit. Thanks! No big rush here. ++Lar: t/c 16:01, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Are you in edit mode?Voice-of-AllTalk 16:15, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
No, I wasn't... thanks! Nom for AfD works when you are not in edit mode. I'll probably hack some more tonite to try to get some of the other stuff (AfD closing assistance for example) in there somehow. I was able to get the AfD helper cut in already and it seems to work OK.++Lar: t/c 16:30, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Are you working on your addtabs? I'm getting errors from that function (hard enough to get Firefox to crash, but for once IE gives a useful error message instead of croaking and then carries on). the only difference I could spot between my monobook.js and yours before the first call to an addtab function is that (since addtabs has an addlilink function) I commented out my addlililink, and I don't have the same exact pattern of nowiki tags around my function call sets that you do. Your monobook has nowiki bracketing on some but not all and I can't quite tell why or even what nowiki is supposed to be doing in that context. (posted from (blech!) IE) The tabs themselves stopped working (or at least are not working in IE as far as I can tell) ++Lar: t/c 20:32, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
I did some nosing around in your contribs history and I see that a lot of your subsidiary functions changed the same way this one did: [14] to have AddTabs removed... this happened about the same time things stopped working for me. So I'm thinking maybe there's a relationship there. I will hack more after dinner. Maybe my approach of trying to just basically copy your stuff with tweaks is not the way to go, I dunno. Has anyone else reported any issues lately? If they didn't know to use IE and they were impacted the way I was, they may not be able to get on at all because FF crashes rendering the page before you can even log out or anything... If I have to I'll back off back to my earlier version of my monobook but darn, it was working so well this morning I really don't want to! (PS thanks as always for all your great script wizardry...) ++Lar: t/c 22:29, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

(out)I think all of the above are red herrings. I think the problem was in this invocation which I thought I needed (or maybe I did at one point till you changed something): User:Voice_of_All/Dropdown/monobook.js... the js console in firefox when I patched my monobook up enough in ie to run (sort of) gave this:

Error: illegal character
Source File: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Voice_of_All/Dropdown/monobook.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s
Line: 1
Source Code: #REDIRECT [[User:Voice of All/Dropdown/monobook.css]]

So maybe sorted? Have fun packing... ++Lar: t/c

hehehe...look at your message, you are SRC writing a redirect (I renamed it to css since that smore appropriate). Change "js" to "css". Hope that helps :).Voice-of-AllTalk 06:28, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Well ya, but YOU were calling it that way too in the code I cribbed from, or appeared to be. I couldn't quite fathom why writing out a redirect in js/html space would be of any use, but you seemed to be doing it. The dangers of copying code! It's all sorted now though. Actually I wonder if I can get by with not using it at all because I copied the css into my monobook.css (planning to turn the corner rounding off, although I quite like the tab highlighting effects..) ++Lar: t/c 07:05, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
The link is fix (on the main JS mage now).Voice-of-AllTalk 07:08, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tony Blair protection status

Have you looked at the Tony Blair article's edit history since you unprotected it? If not, I think you probably ought to. All the best SP-KP 17:29, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Thats not enough for semi, especially for such a well watchlisted article.Voice-of-AllTalk 18:04, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi - fair enough, but can you keep an eye on the article please, if you're not already, as the volume probably will reach the required level soon. SP-KP 18:14, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Task #5200492

One more task to throw in your already overburdened pile: Could you add something to the checkuser.js that will remove <noinclude>{{Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Inputbox/Sample/Tag}}</noinclude> if it apppears on the page? I keep forgetting to remove it, so it'd be helpful if the script could do it automatically. Is that possible? Essjay (Talk • Connect) 18:43, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

I am not sure what you mean. I assume this is the main RFCU page. Do you want to delete it if in edit mode (not sure why) or have it not show when you view it? What makes it get there in the fist place?Voice-of-AllTalk 18:47, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Ohh..subpages more likely, looking at your contribs.Voice-of-AllTalk 18:48, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Hm....document.editform.wpTextbox1.value.replace('<noinclude>{{Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Inputbox/Sample/Tag}}</noinclude>','') would do.Voice-of-AllTalk 18:49, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Basically, it's a tag that is added automatically when the page is created that says "Don't forget to put this page on RFCU" and adds the page to a holding-pen category, so we know if any are created but not listed. When I give a result, if the tag is still there, it should come off, since it's clear at that point that it's been listed on RFCU (the whole point of the tag). I keep forgetting to remove it, so I figured, why not have the script do it, since I'm going to be using the script on the page anyway. :) Essjay (Talk • Connect) 19:48, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

I'll add the replace script to "checkuser report". For now, I've got to keep packing up my oddles of stuff to move out of my college dorm for the summer....fun stuff:D.Voice-of-AllTalk 22:29, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

To Voice of All for totally awesome work you are given this humble barnstar with many many thanks.--Dakota ~ 16:00, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
To Voice of All for totally awesome work you are given this humble barnstar with many many thanks.--Dakota ~ 16:00, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Warning codes

No, it is great the way it is. Thanks so much..--Dakota ~ 18:42, 9 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] RE: "Choate Rosemary Hall - Arts Center.JPG" image

You indicated that I should use descriptive edit summaries when reverting my image. I'd be entirely glad to, but I do not know how to add an edit summary when using the "rev" link on an image page to put back an earlier version of the image. Can you give me a pointer?

It's infinitely frustrating to see someone uploading over my image (whose title was carefully chosen to not conflict with other users' images of the same building) seemingly as a tactic in an edit war. Sigh. I would be only too glad to discuss this if I could get User:JoanneC to engage in discussion at all! Tls 06:10, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

I meant to put that comment for the article protection request, but it was offset since the page was edited before I clicked the edit link (but I loaded the page before the new request was added).Voice-of-All 06:14, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
Can you offer me any advice on what to do about the image overwrite if it happens again? I am not sure how to resolve a dispute with an editor who doesn't respond to any form of communication within WP, and honestly if she has some overpowering (yet secret) reason to want the article page how she left it, I don't care that much -- but stomping my image is very frustrating because I'm using it on other pages as well, and I would like to find a way to keep a stable copy of the image on WP! Tls 06:21, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Quixtar

Quixtar seems to be protected by your bot. It is editing out links that were agreed upon as per the discussion. Can you please take a moment to read the discussion to see what links were deemed valuable to the topic? Thanks. Gallwapa 19:01, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

I asked another admin on IRC about those links and decided to reduce the blocklist to only the blogspot and the www.thisbiznow.com ones. Thanks.Voice-of-All 19:05, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Barnstar

In case you don't see reply on my talk page - You're welcome. I guess I should have thought to let you know on your talk page. :) (Am I first one here after an archive? Whee~) -Goldom (t) (Review) 01:03, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] POINT

Means (pedanticly read) doing something you don't want to actually happen. The phrase you're probably looking for is "disruption" or something like it. Because if this goes down, everyone and their dog will be going over every word in triplicate...
brenneman {L} 03:41, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, "disruption" is better.Voice-of-All 03:46, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm sorry to hear that, given it was a duration of one hour, but that's User:Improv's prerogative. RadioKirk talk to me 04:03, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
All I can figure is, he wants to see it the way he wants to see it, everyone else be damned. Hardly a good way to foster a sense of community, but I have to assume he'll either get the point or drive his supporters away, one at a time. Sad... RadioKirk talk to me 04:09, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Hello, Voice of All/Archive6, and thank you for the supportive vote on my recent RfA! With a final vote of 84/1/4, I have now been entrusted with the mop, bucket and keys. I will be slowly acclimating myself to my new tools over the next months, but welcome any and all feedback and suggestions on how I might be able to use them to help the project. Thanks again! Kukini 15:16, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Comprehensive contribution data

Excuse my ignorance, but how aside Interiot's tool can I get comprehensive data on my contribution history as you did for this RfA Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/TodorBozhinov? Thanks a lot! E Asterion u talking to me? 11:43, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks very much! I will give it a try. I do not intend to use it on RfA indeed. Cheers, --E Asterion u talking to me? 20:07, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
Great! It works now. --E Asterion u talking to me? 20:37, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Admin coaching

You are signed up as a volunteer for the Esperanza admin coaching program, but as far as I can see you are not assigned to anyone as a coach. Are you ok to take on someone? Petros471 20:28, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes :)! I've emailed Titoxd about this twice. I am ready for a new user.Voice-of-All 20:31, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
Ok (I think Titoxd has been busy recently). I've assigned you as coach to Jusjih, along with Kirill Lokshin. Let me know if you have any problems, or when you're ready for another one. Oh, and could you update the status on the coaching box once the coaching has begun. Thanks, Petros471 19:15, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your analysis of my contributions at English Wikipedia.--Jusjih 07:02, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Signatures

Hi, may seem a bit remedial, but how do you get at the templates that create links to your talk and contribs when you sign your name? mastodon 20:39, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your user page

I just thought I'd inform you that your user page doesn't render properly on 1024x768 in Firefox. That big picture of the clouds covers some of your userboxes. MichaelBillington 00:22, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

I know I applied a little early, but I thought I'd give it a shot. Thanks for the consideration. --Slyder PilotE 01:03, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trolling?

I was just wondering why you considered the bush/hitler image trolling? I think you could have at least discussed this action with me before deleting the image. Thanks. The Ungovernable Force 05:11, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Recent Semi-protect page rejection

Thank you for your quick response. Actually, the only reason that I wished to have it protected was for the forseable amount of vandalism in the future, but I will come back when there is more of that. Thanks again, Thetruthbelow 07:37, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Well that the issue, we are not allowed to protect premptively, excepting extreme visability/functionality issues.Voice-of-All 07:38, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hyper-perceptivity

Your heightened "wikisense" about user Primetime was correct. I give the nod for "first to tag as a vandal" to user:RickK,[15] but he's not around to collect. There are many lessons to be drawn - one is that follow-through is a necessity. Many folks complained about edits and even tagged this guy as a bad user, but that didn't stop him. Outright plagiarists like this guy are less than .1% of the copyvios, but they are the most persistent and unrepentant. There are several theories about his motives or reasons, and it's an ongoing case, so some analysis is worthwhile. Anyway, assume good faith but trust your instinct. When it comes to info that could harm this project, living people, or, (now) companies, we should err on the side of caution. Cheers, -Will Beback 11:25, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Revert War at Philosophy of Mathematics

JA: Dear VOA, If you check the edit history and the old WQA's, you will see that I had until yesterday been voluntarily observing a zero revert policy and repeatedly begging for community help with User:JJL's practice of automatically mass deleting my contributions. So, thanks a lot for all your help. Insert <ironicon> here. Traveling for a few days, so radio slience until then. Jon Awbrey 12:50, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA/Gurch

Thanks for your support, and also for taking the time to settle the question of edit summary usage – Gurch 16:51, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Hi VoA. Thank you for the link. I've added it to my watchlist. Let me take this opportunity to thank you also for your kind words of support in my RfB. I really appreciate them :) Cheers, Redux 07:33, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Grow up

This coming from the guy named after a Magic™: The Gathering card? :) :) -- User:RyanFreisling @ 13:07, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] me again

hey, anyone reporting any problems with anything? My stuff was all working a treat but stopped, and I didn't change anything. Wondering if there are any changes in your stuff? I see from your history that you were fiddling... thanks! ++Lar: t/c 01:24, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

History stats for pages are down for regex switching, and the special admin revert functions were merged two days ago (they work fine). The AfD tab bug was fixed (which caused tabs to not show).Voice-of-All 01:28, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

So i can re uncomment stuff then? Or maybe that was what you just were doing? I was trying to find out what was up by commenting more and more out and all of a sudden... it changed out from under me! that was yoo :) Is there a newsletter I shold be watching? :) ++Lar: t/c 01:44, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I forgot that your JS was a copy of mine, so i though that moving that thing wouldn't affect anyone using the SRCs or standard packages (which are getting out of date BTW, because updating them fully means liaddmenu(), which limits the number of tabs).Voice-of-All 01:47, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

And me again... I just did a function to do a subst of unsigned2 in if you paste in the right bit from a history page. (I find myself doing that a LOT on newbie pages as they often forget to sign) Interested? (the function adds a string of the form {{subst:unsigned2|18:39, 18 June 2006|Joturner}} if prompted with a string of the form "18:39, 18 June 2006 Joturner"). I also did get my WP:DYK talk page helper functions working... Interested in those? LMK or just snarf them out of user:Lar/moretabs/monobook.js and let me know... thanks as always for your help. I do have a question which is how to add to an existing tab that you set up, instead of creating a new one... is there an example somewhere of adding on to existing tabs with more dropdown functions? ++Lar: t/c 00:39, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RFCU completed requests

Hi, just a quick note to inform you that recently completed requests have to be moved to the top of the list as opposed to the bottom. I know it's a weird system, but that how it works! Cheers --Srikeit (Talk | Email) 08:40, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Now I have to .split the script now, that will take all of 2 minutes! :)Voice-of-All 08:42, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Seems like you are taking care of the clerk duties for now. Should I back off to avoid edit-conflicts? --Srikeit (Talk | Email) 08:46, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Pharos/monobook.js

Excuse me, I have no idea what this is. Thanks in advance for clearing things up.--Pharos 09:37, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Is your edit analysis tool broken?

Hi, I was just wondering if the edit analysis you posted on my RfA is accurate? If I'm reading it right, it says "analysis of edits (out of all 4416 edits shown of this page): Notable article edits (creation/expansion/rewrites/sourcing): 0.61% (27)" How can I have written 24 articles, (plus 1 article translated, several stubs started, some stubs expanded, sourcing, etc.) and only have 27 notable article edits. That can't be right.

Less importantly: It says I marked less than half my minor edtis as minor. What is the criteria here? I was given to understand that minor refers only to "spelling corrections, formatting, and minor rearrangement of text", which I take to mean that adding, deleting, or changing even a single word (as opposed to rearranging for format) is not minor. Is there a different criteria, and should WP:HEP be clarified? Then it goes on

Edits marked as major (non-minor/reverts): 80.91% (3573 edit(s))
Edits marked as minor (non-reverts): 13.07% (577 edit(s))
Marked reverts (reversions/text removal): 6.02% (266 edit(s))
Unmarked edits: 28.1% (1241 edit(s))

which is 128.09%... (Even the first three come to 101.98$, I don't think that could be a rounding error given the precision of the constituent values.) These last two are not a big deal, I guess, but thought you'd want to know. Also, the first is not a big deal for me personally in my RfA, just thought you'd want to know about (or perhaps explain if I'm reading ti wrong, if you have the time?) Herostratus 18:03, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I've never had things add up over 100% before, strange...I'll re-run it and see what the issue is.Voice-of-All 18:48, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Sure, glad it wasn't just me not adding right. No prob. I think the criteria for Motable Article Edits must be set pretty high, but it probably should be -- although, unlike the other entries, it's not explained and perhaps should be, if that's not a lot of extra work, I guess. Herostratus 02:26, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA vote

Uh, not warning vandals... I'm not sure what you mean? It says here ("editors cautioned" and "editors warned" near the bottom) that I've used the warning templates about 46 times, which granted is not a lot. (Of course, the you-will-be-blocked templates aren't a lot of use to a non-admin.) I usually do use the templates, and try to never revert clear vandalism without posting a caution or warning to the user's talk page. I haven't done much flat-out vandal fighting lately, guilty as charged. Working on pedophilia-related material requires me to recharge my batteries with some plain old article editing, and I don't have all the time I would like to do all the things that should be done.

Neither my machine nor my reflexes are that fast, and doing RC patrol I usally find that the problem's already been fixed by someone else by the time I get there. There are many RC patrollers, granting that there are not enough, but anyway I tend toward short page review, which gives an occasional page that has slipped through that needs speedying or whatever and doesn't require instant reaction. If I'm made an admin I will do more straightforward vandal patrol of course, but still not a lot of it.

And yet, it appears at least possible that I broke Squidward, if that counts for anything, assuming some complicated stuff which I won't go into here is accurate. And I made a nice set of graphics for the Counter-Vandalism Unit. So, like the doesn't-know-copyright thing, I'm not seeing where this soft-on-vandalism thing is coming from.

This whole thing frost me, basically, because this is from just regular editors without an agenda. I have numerous enemies who haven't even come out the woodwork yet (excepting Hipocrite), which if they do will most likely sink me. I don't think you can fight for the 'pedia and not collect enemies, if you have a found a way to do I'd love for you to tell me your secret, or better yet come down to WP:PAW and help out.

Sorry for the rant. Herostratus 04:40, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Wait a second... did I break Squidward? According to several admins Squidward==the George Reeves person, I did break the George Reeves person by long and dogged pursuit until I finally ascertained and posted his identity. WP:SQUID has gone silent... have the attacks stopped? Is there any way to find that out? WP:SQUID went dark at almost the same time as I unmasked the George Reeves person... is that important? Was Squidward that big of a deal? Would that help my case? Do I have enough evidence to claim that? Herostratus 04:57, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] unprotection request

leebs12 13:01, 15 June 2006 (UTC)Could you unblock "Bob Beauprez" the inflamatory information is unfair to the congressman. I have a template written that is unbiased, and upto date. Thank you. I am Beaucredo or you can email me at conservative.gear@gmail.com

Please sign your comments with four tildles; anyway, I'll look into it.Voice-of-All 18:47, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ps3 protection

thank you very much! --Gatoatigrado 19:37, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Brent Corrigan

It's probably safe to un-sprotect this. Go ahead and do it and see if the troll returns. SchmuckyTheCat 20:28, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] script

I read somewhere that you have a script that will delete a page, and restore every edit except for the vandal's edit. Well, I want to try it out. And, because I am an admin, can you please give it to me so I can try it? Also, if you want to test admin stuff there (instead of breaking some kind of policy here), tell me and I'll b-crat/sysop you. --GeorgeMoney T·C 22:07, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

You still have to press delete. It just has a toogle tab on the undelete page that lets you select all revisions (which makes it quick to de-select the bad ones). Someone else has a similar script, and even without script you can still select a revisions and hold shift while you select a lower one, and the range is selected. If you add it anyway, I think you will need Specialadmin, which also adds "masterrollback" and "revert all moves", but read the info first (on /UsefulJS). Thanks.Voice-of-All 23:31, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
The idea here is to effectively remove an edit from the version history? If that's a desirable thing, it should be added as a MediaWiki feature. I find the notion kind of scary. There are Oversight admins around who can get rid of single edits when situations require it. Phr (talk) 09:41, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DVD+R/W's RfA

Thank you for your support in my RfA, which ended with the result of (74/0/0). If there is anything I can help with feel free to ask. Also, if there is anything I am doing wrong, please point that out as well. I look forward to working with you in the future.

Highest regards, DVD+ R/W 01:39, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A favor

You could do me the great favor of watching my talk page and reverting/protecting as needed. I expect the need, if any, will die down over a few days. Reasons stated thereon. Thanks. Thatcher131 05:37, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

I'll watch if still needed.Voice-of-All 06:39, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ~~~~ on WP:PP

Cyde protected [[~~~~]] ([{{fullurl:~~~~|action=edit}} edit]|[[Talk:~~~~|talk]]|[{{fullurl:~~~~|action=history}} history]|[{{fullurl:Special:Whatlinkshere/~~~~|limit=999}} links]|[{{fullurl:~~~~|action=watch}} watch]|logs), which confused your bot. Your bot inserted ~~~~, giving the bot's signature instead of the redirect title. I have fixed the listing and hope the bot doesn't re-list the page every hour now. Happy editing, Kusma (討論) 22:09, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

It will not see ~~<!-- -->~~ as the same as ~~~~, so it will do it again normally. Since ~~~ or more tildes triggers sigs, I added a pass to the regexes so that it will count such pages as deleted pages, as quick a hack. That should stop it from listing it.Voice-of-All 22:15, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Afd

Hate to bother you but could you close an afd for me please? I withdrew my nom on it[16] I am here or in irc if you have questions. Thanks --Dakota ~ 22:20, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm afraid there is no way to really "withdraw" it, as you votes now only count as any other votes after you make the AfD and someone else votes. This prevents a single editor from being able to just arbitrarily close any AfD is they don't like where it is going. WHile I am sure that is not the case here, and its only been a short while, I'd rather let the process flow. If a few more keep votes are added, I'll speedy keep it.Voice-of-All 22:26, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ok so thanks

Though some level of luck, I added your RC patroller script to my .js less than an hour(a flash in wiki-time) and I clicked rollback close to 100 times in a very short span. Good script, though I may ask, is there a version that doesn't have or require lupin's developmental popups? Kevin_b_er 10:10, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, see this script[17].Voice-of-All 17:12, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A request for protection

Hi there. At this RfP you said the page Red Hot Chili Peppers was semi-protected, but it is not at the moment. You may have accidentally overlooked it, so I came here to inform you of that. :) Thanks. Cowman109Talk 21:52, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VoA bot

Your bot has been approved for a bot flag. Please contact a local bureaucrat to set it. Please also remember that future expansions of tasks and other work not covered in the initial request need to be posted on WP:BRFA - please wait there for some indication that we are aware of what the bot's doing. Thanks. robchurch | talk 23:56, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bot Flag

Hi VoA! Tawker has given final approval [18], so I have granted VoABot a bot flag. Cheers, Redux 00:13, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Closure of JustPhil's RfA

Wasn't it sopposed to end seven days after it started? Myrtone

[edit] RFCU Clerks discussion page

I moved most of the discussion to the talk page, so the main Clerks' Noticeboard can have the requests from checkusers rather than boatloads of discussion. Its a boldness, and I hope it makes things easier for us. If the watchlists don't work out, it the talk may have to be moved to yet a different page, but for now I think it looks pretty good. Kevin_b_er 03:19, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rfcub

Would you please look at the discussion on Wikipedia talk:Requests for checkuser/Clerks/Requests? Your last change to Rfcub broke it. I don't know why, but the templates only work when subst'd (which is fine with me). Your recent change seems to have removed the /noinclude from Rfcub so that archived requests were not being hidden. For example, I just tested Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Peter morrell, which was archived by Skrikeit tafter you made your change, by tanscluding it to my sandbox, and the whole thing appeared. I reverted your change and re-substituted it and now it is fine. Test Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Kurt Leyman yourself, which I haven't fixed. Using your version of Rfcub, it doesn't work whether subst'd or not. (as well for Thomist and Dabljuh).

I thinnk it has something to do with the split include only and noincludes which are needed to allow the template itself to be included when transcluded. These things are not needed if we just subst the template. If you want to figure out how to make it work when not subst'd please triple-check before leaving it. I've also built a sandbox for testing, the links are on my user page. You can test the templates in my user space if you want. Thatcher131 11:23, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Using VOICE OF ALL monobook...

Hello...

Switched from Godmode Lite to the RC Patrol in your monobook...

I have a question about the REPORT button....who does it report to and under what circumstances am I to use it? Thanks KsprayDad 15:52, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clifton College

Brookie here - I have put the semi protection backon as the little rascal has reappeared with the hoax about Dexter's House. Brookie :) - a will o' the wisp ! (Whisper...) 19:08, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA thanks!

Thanks for voting!
Hello Voice of All/Archive6, and thank you so much for voting in my recent RfA. I am pleased to inform you that it passed with a final tally of (119/1/3), into the WP:100, so I have now been cleared for adminship and will soon be soaring above the clouds. I was overjoyed, shocked, and humbled by the tally, and, most importantly, all the support. Thank you. If there is ever anything you need, you know where you can find me. Take care.

--Pilot|guy 22:24, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Traditional counties

Regarding your protection of Traditional counties of England, I fear that you may also need to protect Merseyside: there is a similar edit war going on there, with mostly the same protagonists (User:Owain, User:Lancsalot, User:Mais oui! and the banned User:Irate (aka 84.9.xxx.xxx, 87.75.xxx.xxx etc.)). Please help! --RFBailey 22:53, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sleeper.js

I've tried to install this script, but it doesn't work. --Sunholm(talk) 10:48, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Primetime

Is that really complete? Mackensen blocked 3 ranges, but he didn't yet complete or respond to the other two requests. Essjay moved it to completed because Mackensen was covering it, but it's not really finished, so shouldn't it stay on the main RFCU page? --Rory096 23:24, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

I debated letting it stay the last few times I moved/archived, but it just seems to be stale, and no one added to it even though other cases continued to be completed and updated. I am assuming that it is just dropped for now.Voice-of-All 23:26, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
True, but there are still two pending requests, perhaps Mackensen just hadn't come back and seen them yet. Primetime is an extremely bad plagiarizer and has been threatening to do more, so we should be doing everything possible to stop him before he can. --Rory096 05:57, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VoA Monobook

I have a suggestion for the non-admin RC patroll thing. I think, in the new user log, there should be a script similar to the ARV script that adds a [report] button next to each name if it needs a username block. It will report that user to AIV and the reason will be "username", so you don't have to fill in a reason. Or the buttons should be [report username] and [report custom]. And, for the admin JS, the JS should make it so instead of the block link linking to Special:Blockip/Example User, it should link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Blockip/Example_User?wpBlockExpiry=indefinite&wpBlockReason=username.. , so admins don't have to fill in everything. --GeorgeMoney T·C 00:09, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unprotecting Opus Dei

Hi Voice of All,

just for the record, it took full 8 (eight) minutes until the first full-blown vandalism after you unprotected the article Opus Dei.[19] So far for "hopefully, protection is no longer necessary." As this article currently is in a mayor overhaul and is even subject of a formal mediation, I would recommend re-(semi)protecting the article. --Túrelio 06:09, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bot adding semicolon to user's signature while making new post

Hi, I'm wondering about the semicolon your bot added to Jaranda's signature here. Is that some kind of bug in the Wikipedia software, or in the bot? Forgive my ignorance of technical matters. AnnH ♫ 09:19, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your bot

Hi VoA, your bot just left me a note [20] saying I hadn't provided a protection summary for Monkey when I semi-protected it. However, I did provide a summary [21] and also added it to WP:PP, where I left another summary. [22] Not sure what else it wants me to do. :-) SlimVirgin (talk) 09:33, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tony Blair

Looks like your edit comment on unprotecting has proved to be incorrect again? SP-KP 17:24, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, and well done also for taking my sarcasm at RFPP in good heart :-) SP-KP 20:50, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your BOT-buddy

Hi,

He's a little off today -- telling me I left no summary for How NOT to steal a SideKick 2, when there is one in the log. Best wishes, Xoloz 17:57, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV and encyclopedic

Your user page says that you try to make sure that articles you come arcoss are NPOV and encyclopedic. Are you open to suggestions for some articles to look at? Bubba73 (talk), 22:08, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My (Mtz206) RfA

Thanks for supporting me in my RFA. My Request was successful with 41 supports, 12 opposes and 5 neutrals, and I'll do my best to live up to your expectations. If in any point in the future you get the feeling I'm doing something wrong, do not hesitate to drop me a line. -- mtz206 (talk) 02:48, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Protection

The next minute you removed protection from History of Russian military ranks (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs), it was vandalized again... could you please semiprotect it again, along with Military ranks of the Soviet Union (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)? --Dmitry 05:40, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Thats no were near enough to protect again yet. I'll watch it though.Voice-of-All 05:45, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Are we talking about the same two pages? I'm already tired of reverting it all over again... --Dmitry 20:21, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Getting document values from non edit pages

Sorry for the spam, but can you peek at this and see if you have an ideas? Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_User_scripts#name_of_the_description_text_box_on_an_upload_page I'd like to try to improve my productivity uploading images to Commons so want to stick stuff in a different textarea than the standard textbox on an edit page. Thanks! ++Lar: t/c 20:19, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

It's sorted. The form didn't have a name, I had to get it by ID. Working now. ++Lar: t/c 01:48, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of wars and disasters by death toll

Hi Voice of All, ran into this article on WP:RFPP and unprotected it as it looks like things have cooled down a bit on the talk page. Wanted to make sure it was OK by you. Merci beaucoup -- Samir धर्म 05:45, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A short Esperanzial update

As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.

As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace JoanneB and Pschemp and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on 2006-07-02 and last until 2006-07-09. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before 2006-07-02. For more details, see Wikipedia:Esperanza/June 2006 elections.

Thanks and kind, Esperanzial regards, —Celestianpower háblame 16:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] JS stuff

I tried adding:

// Admin rollback tools
document.write('<script type="text/javascript" src="' 
            + 'http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Voice_of_All/Specialadmin/monobook.js' 
            + '&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s"></script>');
//

to my monobook, but after hard-refreshing, I couldn't seem to find any sign of functions or for that matter blue bars (but that is seasonal). Any ideas? Ian¹³/t 20:47, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

You also need to add the "add tabs" prerequisite script for it to work. It can be found at User:Voice of All/UsefulJS.Voice-of-All 21:49, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Yes, I tried doing that as well - but it still seemed to have no effect. Ian¹³/t 14:28, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Its no longer a blue bar, but a small "Administrator backlogs:" notice. I ran your monobook js and it seemed to work. There was masterollback on contribs, revert all moves, extra revert liks on diffs, and the backlog notice thing.Voice-of-All 18:25, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Strange. Ian¹³/t 08:41, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] psuedo-admin style revert is busted

Nearest as I can tell, the admin-style revert is broken. It stalls at getting the edit form. Doesn't work in the mozilla suite or the latest firefox. Firefox' JS console says that "l = form.getElementsByTagName('textarea');" holds the error "form has no properties" from the function RevertStepThreenorm(), in User:VoA/monobook.js. It'd probably take me a good while to figure out what's going wrong, since I didn't write any of it. Hope you can figure out what's going wrong. Kevin_b_er 23:06, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. It is broken for me too. --GeorgeMoney T·C 23:09, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
I ran it and reverted some things, and I don't seem to be getting that error. It works fine for me.Voice-of-All 23:54, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
And now it works again... Go figure. Kevin_b_er 00:19, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Now the revert links are completely gone... Kevin_b_er 00:24, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
I just took the time to unify two separate functions, and made a small mistake. Nevertheless, it was working before, and if it was not for, I am not sure if it will work now, since those changes were just something I hadn't gotten around to and didn't fix any bugs (just made it more effecient). The bug I just made doing this was fixed, adn I made all 3 types of reverts fine with it.Voice-of-All 00:33, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandal JavaScript

you said drop a note on your talk page, well here it goes

thanks i am using the tab to warn vandals \\function testn(number)\\ and i want it to warn from the talk page without going to the edit page first im just looking for a patch to auto warn and save

   function testn(number)
 {
   var page = prompt("Vandalism to which article?")
   var f = document.editform, t = f.wpTextbox1;
   if (t.value.length > 0)
     t.value += '\n';
   t.value += "{{subst:" + "test" + number + "-n|" + page + "}} ~" + "~" + "~" + "~";
   f.wpSummary.value = "Vandalism to [[" + page + "]] - warning " + number;
 }


Betacommand 05:03, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

thanks, a sugestion auto summery and auto save. Betacommand 03:38, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
thanks but the Test and other tabs dont seem to work Betacommand 05:09, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
hay thanks i've made a few changes you might want to take a look [23] Betacommand 18:33, 26 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Asking a favor

Could you post a breakdown of my edits on my talk page? I love statistics, and after some time I'm interested in how my edits break down. Thanks for your hard work on .js files and your edit tool as well! Teke 06:26, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Aside from rewrites and creations (which I've no mind for), anything in particular you see that I should focus on, or is it going okay? Teke 05:29, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FC Barcelona

Hi Voice of All, It was myself who requested that the FC Barcelona article, be protected against the edits of an unregistered user. However I notice that the unregistered user version is the one that has been left. This version goes over the recommended article size and contains inaccuracies. At least two other editers are in dispute with this unregistered user. If you check the history of this article you will find that I have been a major contributer to this article as well as other articles on Spanish football. PS I thought protection enabled registered users to edit ! Djln --Djln 21:43, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

I though it was more of a legitimate edit war, but looking more closely (and not at 4AM :D...), semi-protection seems more reasonable.Voice-of-All 22:08, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of article on STJEPAN PATKAI

How "nice" it is to see that a child, 19 years old, such as yourself, finds it appropriate to delete an article about a great man who has spent vast amounts of time, effort, money and other to do good for his city and and the soldiers who were being treated there during the war. A man who will also be remembered as a wonderful musician and enteratainer who filled the city hall to the last seat on every concert he held there. WHAT JUSTIFIES YOUR ACTION?! So YOU consider him an unremarkable person!?! So what?!?

Sorry, but the page did on assert, or claim, enough encyclopedic notability per category A(article) 7 of WP:CSD.Voice-of-All

[edit] my monobook

Hey, a little while back you editted my monobook and put the following script in:

document.write('<script type="text/javascript" src="' + 'http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:VoA/monobook.js' + '&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s"></script>'); //

Well the code did work up until today where I've realised everything that was on Wikipedia such as the pop-ups, Live Spellcheck and Watchlist monitoring etc, is no longer there. I click on the link http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:VoA/monobook.js and find the monobook no longer exists. Is there anyway I can get the code back using a different monobook because the Live Spellcheck and popups were very useful. Please reply on my talk page if that is OK with you. - Erebus555 14:32, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

It should still work, as the script is still there, and it has popupsdev and filter recent changes.Voice-of-All 14:40, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Ah, I see, there was a function name bug though; fixed.Voice-of-All 14:46, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Portland Seven

Hey, the parade of anonymous socks on Portland Seven has begun again. I'd really rather have the page open, but I'm not sure that's practical until the harassment stops. Cheers. IronDuke 02:04, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My Edit Count

Hey, I've seen that you generate a detailed summary of past edits for users in their RFAs. I was wondering if you could post mine at User talk:Nobleeagle/MyStatistics. If its simply and I can generate it myself then can you please tell me how...I read that Interiots Backup Tool said that it would not work with IE but I'm afraid thats all I've got. Thanks. Nobleeagle (Talk) 06:11, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Elizabeth Morgan talk page

You unprotected the E.M. page but not its Talk page. Please do so. -- 75.24.211.225 07:39, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalbot?

I didn't know where to report this, so here goes: I've been chasing what I now think is a vandalbot. It has been adding "es" to random articles at a phenomenal rate. I have been reverting the changes, but there are way too many and the IP keeps changing. See my recent contributions for the address. It is always 207.200.116.XXX Prometheus-X303- 13:27, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Javascript

Just asking for a bit of advice. I copied much of your JS to my monobook, but the statistics tab doesn't work as it comes up with an error saying that 'undefined' is undefined. I was wondering whether there could be any simply way for me to fix this? Nobleeagle (Talk) 01:40, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm, FF sees undefined as a lack of an attribute (paradoxically an attribute), but not all versions of IE might. Try adding "var undefined;" without the quotes to the begining of your script to "define" the variable.Voice-of-All 03:27, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Semi-protection of 2006 FIFA World Cup

As per the "Important Note" under WP:PPOL#Uses, the semi-protection of 2006 FIFA World Cup has been removed. This article is currently high-profile and is linked on the main page. Therefore, it will often become a target for vandalism. It is not appropriate to protect pages in this case. Instead, consider adding them to your watchlist, and reverting vandalism yourself. See also Talk:2006 FIFA World Cup/Archive 4#Anonymous IP edits. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 15:59, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your bot reverted me

Here. Why? Petros471 17:22, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, see you just reverted back. What's the bot's job suppost to be? Petros471 17:23, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
And then you revert your bot, which (AFAIK) correctly listed that page which I'd protected. Petros471 17:29, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hey!

I take back what I said about good work with the bot. ;-) --GraemeL (talk) 17:24, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Heh, I just added a regex to blacklist a spammer to Dana Rayne, but something is wrong whit it, since it now is picking up almost everything as having it :(.Voice-of-All 17:29, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
I see what you're up to. Very good idea. I await results with... anticipation. --GraemeL (talk) 18:07, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
??? :(.Voice-of-All 18:14, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Getting the bot to automatically remove spam. I reverted the bot again. It reverted your edit. Unfortunatly, your edits were removing and adding the link again, so the article ended up with the link still there. If you go for another test now, it should work correctly. --GraemeL (talk) 18:17, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
OK...that worked. And it was not the regex that was bad, it was me leaving out a "!= -1" for the search when I...copy-pasted...a bit of code.Voice-of-All 18:33, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Partial lock (PS3)

Thanks for the partial lock on the PS3 article - it honestly makes a big difference to the amount of vandalism/unnecessary work editors have to deal with. It's been removed now so I hope things should stay as quite as they have been. Over almost two weeks there have been as many edits as in two days without it. Thanks.HappyVR 20:50, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bad day

I reverted the edits of a sockpuppet of a blocked user and the bot reverted me [24]. Can you revert the bot please. --GraemeL (talk) 23:11, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Today's Star shines upon...


...dear Voice of All,
a dedicated and hard working Wikipedian, and yet one who believes from his heart in the value of the small acts of kindness that make this a special place.
You always give nothing but your best to us all everyday, yet ask for nothing in return.
With my deepest admiration,
and hoping to count you among my friends from this day on,
a great hug,
Phaedriel


[edit] javascript monobook

Thanks for noting that. I don't get any error messages, the whole thing just doesn't seem to work any more. Do you have any suggestions or advice? Jayjg (talk) 15:10, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Thanks for finding the problem with the code! The double message was getting annoying after a while:P. Cheers. PerfectStorm 18:43, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VoA Monobook

The clock in the VoA monobook was causing problems with AWB, so I had to copy the code, move it here and remove the clock. So, if there are any updates to the main one, can you please update this one too? Thanks, --GeorgeMoney (talk) (Help Me Improve!) 20:51, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Never mind, all I had to do was disable JS in IE. --GeorgeMoney (talk) (Help Me Improve!) 06:12, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA thanks

Thanks so much for the support on my recent RfA, which I'm quite happy to announce has passed with a consensus of 67 supporting, 0 opposed and 0 neutral. I'm glad you took me into consideration and judged me to be deserving of adminship, and I'll be working hard to justify the vote of confidence you've placed in me. Let me know at my talk page if you have any comments on how I'm doing as an admin. Thanks! TheProject 22:17, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Crystal_128_password.png

Why did you exactly want this icon be added to Template:Protected? Please see here that Kotepho has informed about licensing issues. -- ADNghiem501 08:13, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

You did not remove the editprotected from Template talk:Protected. I've done so. -- ADNghiem501 08:43, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Commons JS

Yay, it works now. On Firefox, at least. And the "compare to commons"-tab is doubled for whatever reason, but it works. Thanks for writing that script, this should speed up things quite alot. :) --Conti|✉ 14:49, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

If the tab is doubled, either code was copied twice by acident or there is a bug anywhere in yor js file that causes it to stop (and double tabs I've noticed).Voice-of-All 17:31, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
I noticed I have two addTabs functions, one copied earlier to use some other tool and the one from your page. If I remove your function, it doesn't work anymore. If I remove the other addTab function, the tab is still doubled. --Conti|✉ 17:49, 1 July 2006 (UTC)


Hi, I hope I am doing this right. I don't know exactly where to report this. There is a user who goes by 'baseballbaby' who seems unclear as to what vandalism is as opposed to (admitedly) poor edits. Judging by his/her talk page I am not the only one who feels this way. S/he seems new at monitoring vandalism. Is there some way you or another experienced wiki administrator could counsel this individual? Thanks so much!

[edit] Gibraltar

You have reverted the page on San Roque, there is no complaint about that, however the comment is

2006-07-02 15:11:29 VoABot (Talk | contribs) m (BOT - Reverted edits by 212.120.237.128 to last version by Voice of All [blacklisted IP range].)

It is very dangerous to blacklist a range of Gibraltar IP's and to assume that they are ALL one malicious user. The ADSL IP's are in a common pool and are allocated dynamically. --Gibnews 13:23, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

It checks for two ranges, but it only does it for users that are not logged in, and only for the pages that this troll seems to be hitting all the time, so its no where near as reckless as range block or something.Voice-of-All 15:46, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ARequests_for_comment%2FGibnews
--Panchurret 07:45, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bob Beauprez

Seeing as this is an election and things change every day, i feel it is important that the page be unblocked. - beaucredo

[edit] Unprotection

Hi, there. Could you please un-semiprotect Talk:Steam (band) so we can get the response of the IP in a compromise offer to settle the issues on the article itself? It makes it difficult to communicate, otherwise. Thanks. Cowman109Talk 16:02, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Highgate Vampire

I requested semi-protection for this article yesterday, but you felt the acticvity hadn't been sufficient to justify semi-protection. There has been more activity today, and in fact I've just lost the revert war with the IP (without logging in myself). He is still pushing the POV that vampires exist, without citing reputable sources, he is inserting parenthetic comments about the article and other wiki contributors in the body of the article, and he is deleting even the mention that his version of the "vampire" events is a version and not simply THE truth. I'd be grateful if you could intervene, or maybe ask more patrollers to deal with the issue, because I can't cope with this alone. --Anonymous44 17:23, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requested moves

Should this page be archived in some way? —Centrx→talk • 19:50, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

I ask because I came to it via Category:Wikipedia backlog, and seeing old matters resolved, found no designated place for archival. —Centrx→talk • 21:09, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
I am not sure if this is one of those pages worth archiving. My bot auto-moves RfPP fulfilled/denied requests to the completed section on the page...but it also deletes those after a while. In this case, it may be better to just clear them out.Voice-of-All 21:28, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RFA thanks

Image:Where RFA ty.png

[edit] Script

Yup, I'm still using it. Please go ahead and update it. Thanks =Nichalp «Talk»= 04:14, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sysop link

I noticed that there is a link to Makesysop on RfA pages now; I assume this to be a new feature of the bureaucrat script. I wanted you to know that you can preload the name in the box, if you're inclined to make it do that. The link I use is: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AMakesysop&wpMakesysopUser=Username. Essjay (Talk • Connect) 08:20, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey! I haven't seen you in a while! Anyways, yes I though about asking for the DOM or the autonamefill (if you could) but never got around to it, I'll string that link in there. Thanks.Voice-of-All 20:40, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I've been having fun offline. I've also noticed that the RfA hiding script is awry; rather than just putting RfAs into dropdowns, it's now overwriting with the text on the page and doing other strange things. Can you check into it please? :) Essjay (Talk • Connect) 06:21, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I talked to User:Nichalp about this and fixed it yesterday. My pool of scripts is already updated, the fix is very simple.Voice-of-All 06:47, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Duplicate javascript installations

Hi! I've had a few people come to me with problems installing some of my tools, which I think can be traced to them having them installed already with VoA/monobook.js but not realising it. Double installations often cause problems. Please could you prominently warn people against this wherever the instructions for that js file are? If it's not already there, it may be wise to list all the tools that are installed. Thanks, Lupin|talk|popups 23:09, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Will do. Thanks. I saw 1 place so far where it was not clear.Voice-of-All 06:50, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA Thank you

Thank you!

Thank you, Voice of All (as opposed to VoA, a heartless, thoughtless, caringless bot :P ), for your support in my RfA. I appreciate your trust and support, and I will do my best to further help this great encyclopædia and community of ours. If there is anything that you feel I can do to help, please let me know. -- Avi 00:04, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Enjoy

The Working Man's Barnstar
For your awesome work keeping WP:PP clear of backlog! Keep it up! --james // bornhj (talk) 09:47, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Why thanks! :)Voice-of-All 16:17, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:ESP/UPA note

Greetings, Voice of All. The judges would like to announce that the winner for the Esperanza User Page Contest has been chosen. Congratulations to Fir0002 for winning the contest. The winning entry can be found here.


If you'd like to participate in the contest again, check by the contest page in a few days and sign up. See you around. fetofs Hello! 12:57, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Tobias Conradi

What do you mean by your "Auh...no."[25] to Hauke's "But there was no vandalism on this page."?Chrisjj2 13:17, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

If there is sockpuppetry going on, I'd rather not unprotect. Semiprotection is often used on pages where sock puppetry is involved. The protecting admin (who was familair with the situation) unprotected it yesterday anyway.Voice-of-All 16:24, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Onikage725

Thank you for the help. I know what you mean about it being a user page, but I feel better knowing that while I'm away, fellow users won't check out my info and see messed up bars and declarations of supposed gayness. Also it's one less page that fellow editors need to worry about reverting vandalism. It's not just the one user page, he's doing this to multiple users associated with the same articles. He allied himself with User:Wiki-star during a dispute, and has apparently chosen to "fight" us by messing up our talk pages and any articles we watch. Onikage725

[edit] HolyRomanEmperor's death a hoax

I thought I should let you know that HolyRomanEmperor's death has been proven a hoax (here), so his userpage can probably be unprotected now.--Conrad Devonshire Talk 01:23, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] vandalism on the page of Michel Aoun

the user which has 61.69.12.12 as an IP did some vandalism on the page of Michel Aoun. he wrote the following : "he enjoys sucking cock for a living" (i'v already reverted these edits)

Best Regards,

Captainm

[edit] Roger Needham

Continued vandalism on this since it went unprotected. Apparently one editor made it look like it was protected for a short time, and the vandal got an account and started vandalizing again. 3RR got that account permabanned as it was a vandal-only account, but we discovered the protection wasn't real, and he just started using anonymous IPs again. Trying to build consensus on the talk page and figure out what to do. Your input would be appreciated if you have the time. I've no idea why a vandal would waste this much time on a single article, but we're having a tough time of it.--Rosicrucian 14:16, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I've re-semiprotected Roger Needham, since the vandal seems undaunted. Let's leave it up for a month or so to see if it works. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 06:02, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Voice of All. I noticed that you unprotected Roger Needham again, even though it's only been about ten days. I hope that it'll work, but the vandal has been very persistent in the past. If he returns, please let the page stay semiprotected for a full month. Thank you. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 05:41, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
As I feared, the vandal is back. I've semiprotected the page once more; please don't unprotect it for at least a month this time. Also, could you do me a favor and reply either on my user talk page or at Talk:Roger Needham, to let me know that you've gotten this message? Thanks. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 23:45, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Denial of Protection on Tweenies

Dear Voice of All, as a courtesy to you and to comply with WP:CIVIL, I am notifying you that I have listed an appeal against your decision to deny page protection for the Tweenies article on wikipedia. I do feel that the amount of vandalism myself and other RCP's and CVU members have reverted should warrant at least a Vprotect to give us a break for a while! The appeal is listed under your decision. Regards, Thor Malmjursson 19:09, 5 July 2006 (UTC) Thor's Multilingual Yack (Talk)

[edit] Paris Hilton s-protection

I noticed you unprotected Paris Hilton's article, don't you think it should be re-protected?--Andeh 09:11, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Page move reversion tool

Hi. There was a recent page move vandal under the account User:ZZZZ. I tried to use your reversion tool to revert all the page moves with one click, but I couldn't get it to work. It would say, "reverting changes, page will refresh in 5 seconds." It would refresh, but then nothing seemed to happen. Was I just not being patient enough, was there something wrong on my end, or something else? Let me know what you think. EWS23 (Leave me a message!) 10:43, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Fixed. This was due to the addition of "block/talk/contribs" links to everything.Voice-of-All 18:59, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Semiprotection of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

Hi, Voice. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi wasn't actually locked, only semiprotected, and semiprotection does seem to have been of benefit to it. I don't believe for a moment that the anons editing it before I sprotected were bona fide new users; I think they were regular editors logged out, who had an interest in making both the pattern of their edits and the article history more confusing. Compare my reason for semiprotecting in the first place. It's a controversial subject, edited by several people who are at Wikipedia for no other purpose than to input their POV in the Transcdendental Meditation-related articles. And you see the edit warring anon who turned up as soon as you unprotected..? In short, would you mind if I sprotected again? Bishonen | talk 13:37, 6 July 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Hasekura Tsunenaga

Hi Voice of All. Would you know how to recover the text of the latin translation in the image Image:HasekuraRomanCitizenship.jpg which you deleted? It was a lot of work by User:Iustinus. Normally I guess a simple revert would do, but strangely it seems this History function is not available for "transit pages" for images coming from Wikipedia Commons. Regards PHG 22:15, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Here is the text of the last en version (viewing in edit mode is better).Voice-of-All 00:11, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Title of Roman citizenship dedicated to [[Hasekura Tsunenaga]]. 1615.

===Transcription===
#QVOD•LVDOVICVS•RENTIVS•VINCENTIVS•MVTVS
#DE•PAPAZVRRIS•IACOBVS•VELLIVS•ALMÆ•VRBIS•
#CONSERVATORES
#DE ILLVST•<sup><small>(IMO?)</small></sup> ET EXCELL•<sup><small>(IMO?)</small></sup> <BIG>PHILLIPPO FRANCISCO</BIG>•FAXECVRA•ROCVYEMON•ROMANA•CI
#VITATE•DONANDO AD SENATVM•RETVLERE •<BIG>S•P•Q•R</BIG>•DE•EA•RE•ITA•FIERI•CENSVIT•
----
#QVOD IN VRBE ROMANA ANTIQVISSIMIS ETIAM HIIS REGVM TEMPORIBVS VSITATVM ET SEQVENTIBVS DEINDE ANNIS RESPVB.
#CONSVLVIT NE NOSTRA QVIDEM ÆTAS OMISIT, HESTEROS<ref>HESTEROS: a misspelling of ''exteros'', based on Italian pronunciation.</ref> NEMPE VIROS VIRTVTE, SEV NOBILITATE INSIGNES AD HANC ALMAM
#VRBEM EX ORBE VNIVERSO CONFLVENTES <BIG>S.P.Q.R.</BIG> NON SOLVM BENIGNITER VERVM ETIAM MVNIFICENTER AMPLEXVS, ILLOS MA
#GNITVDINE ROMANI NOMINIS DESVPER NATIVAM PROPRIAMQVE NOBILITATEM COHONESTANDO CIVITATE ROMAN[A] DONAVIT VT
#VIRI VIRTVTE NOBILITATQVE PRÆSTANTES INTER ROMANOS CIVIS ADSCITI MAGNO REIPVB. NOSTRÆ VSVI ATQVE ORNAMENTO
#FVISSENT VEL ESSE ALIQVANDO POSSENT. <BIG>N</BIG>OS IGITVR ANTIQVISSIMI MORIS NOSTRVMQVE MAIORVM EXIM[IA?] AVTHORITAT[E] PERMOTI NON OMMIT
#TENDVM PVTAVIMVS INTER CIVES (CAFRIN?)OSQVE ROMANOS ADSCIRE ILLVST.<SUP><SMALL>IMVM?</SMALL></SUP> ET EXCELL.<SUP><SMALL>IMVM?</SMALL></SUP> PHILIPPVM FRANCISCVM FAXECVRA R[O]CVYEMON
#EX CIVITATE SEV CVRIA SANDAI REGNI VOXV IN IAPPONE ORTVM: CVM IPSE EX TAM LONGINQVIS ET REMOTISSIMIS REGIONIBVS AD HANC AL
#MAM VRBEM VENERIT <BIG>ORATOR</BIG> AD SANCTISSIMVM DOMINVM NOSTRVM <BIG>PAVLVM QVINTVM BVRGHESIVM</BIG>
#<BIG>ROMANVM PONTIFICEM MAXIMVM</BIG> PRO SERENISSIMO <BIG>IDATE MASAMVNE REGE VOXV</BIG> IN IMPERIO IAPPONI
#CO VT ROMANVM PONTIFICEM CATHOLICÆ ET VNIVERSALIS ECCLESIÆ <BIG>PASTOREM</BIG>, TOTIVS ORBIS PARENTEM, ET <BIG>IESV CHRISTI FILII DEI</BIG>
#<BIG>OMNIPOTENTIS VICARIVM</BIG> EA QVA(?) DECET REVERENTIA VENERANDO AD ACCIPIENDAM DICTI REGIS AC REGNI [TV??]TELAM PA
#TERNAMQVE CVRAM HORTAR[ET]VR EAPROPTER? <BIG>S.P.Q.R.</BIG> VT CVM IPSO STRICTISSIMO AMORIS NEXV COLLIGETVR [EVNDEM?] ILLV
#STRISSIMVM ET EXCELENTISSIMVM <BIG>PHILIPPVM FRANCISCVM FAXICVRA ROCVYEMON</BIG> AMPLISSIMO MVN[ERE] <BIG>ROMA</BIG>
#<BIG>NAE CIVITATIS</BIG> DECORANDVM ET IN SENATOR. ORDINEM MERITO COOPTANDVM CENSVIT. <BIG>Q</BIG>VAM VOLVNTATEM AC SENTENTIAM SIN
#GVLARI OMNIVM CONSENSV AC LAETITIA COMPROBATAM? PER SCRIBAS EIVSDEM SACRI SENATVS IN PVBLICAS L(?)I(?)TTERAS AD AETERNAM
#MEMORIAM REFERRE EIDEM <BIG>S.P.Q.R.</BIG> ITA PLACVIT VT BENEFICIVM HONOREMQVE NON MAGIS DARE QVAM ACCIPERE VIDE[RE?]TVR <BIG>A</BIG>NNO AB VR
#BE CONDITA MMCCCL[XVI] ET AB ORBE REDEMPTO <BIG>M</BIG>•DC•XV• X?II KAL•DECEMBRIS

===Translation===
"Because Luigi Renzo, Vincenzo Muti-Papazurri, and Giacomo Vellio, Conservators of the Beloved City<ref>*''Conservator Almae Urbis'' seems to have been a common, important title in this era. 
*''Alma Urbs'' seems to usually be rendered "Beloved City" in English, but ''alma'' actually means something more like "nourishing," "bountiful" or "endowed with the qualities of a good parent."[http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.04.0059%3Aentry%3D%231976]
*I can find no information on these particular Conservators, but multiple members of their families seem to have held the title, in all three cases.</ref> referred to the Senate as follows regarding the giving of citizenship to the Most Illustrious and Excellent [[Hasekura Tsunenaga|Phillip Francis Fasxecura Rokuyemon]], the Senate And People of Rome decreed that it should be made so regarding this matter.<br>
"Because in most ancient city of Rome it has been common, even in these<ref>The use of the word "these" is confusing: it is clear that the words "times of kings" refer to the original [[Roman Kingdom]], despite the demonstrative. Could HIIS be a misspelling for ''ex''?</ref> times of kings, then in the subsequent years of the Republic it [the Republic] made it policy, and not even our era has neglected it, that the Senate and People of Rome, embracing them not only kindly, but even generously, should them endow  with Roman citizenship foreign men of particular virtue or nobility who come flocking together from throughout the entire world to this beloved city, decorating them with the greatness of the Roman name in adition to their own, native nobility; as men of particular virtue and nobility, having been admitted among the citizens of Rome, may have been or might someday be useful or glorious to our great Republic. We, therefore, being moved by the excellent authority of this ancient custom of our ancestors, thought that it should not be neglected among the citizens and ''cafrini''<ref>Meaning unknown<!--... to me. If you can figure this out, please do not heasitate to help-->.</ref> of Rome, to admit the most illustrious and excellent man Philip Francis Faxecura Rokuyemon, who originated in the city-state or captital city of [[Sendai, Miyagi|Sandai]] in the kingdom of [[Mutsu Province|Wōshū]]: whereas he came from such distant and far-away lands to this Beloved City as the speaker to our Most Holy Lord [[Pope Paul V|Paul the Fifth, Borghese]] The Supreme Pontiff of Rome, on behalf of the most serene [[Date Masamune|Idate Masamune]], the [[Daimyo|King]] of Woshu in the Japanese Empire, in order to entreat the Pontiff of Rome and the Shepherd of the Universal Catholic Church, the Parent of All The World, and the [[Vicar]] of Jesus Christ son of All-Mighty God, venerating him with all due reverence, to take up the safety<ref>Possibly meaning "salvation." Or maybe just "security, sacrosanctiy"?</ref> and fatherly care of the aforementioned king and kingdom, for which reason the Senate And People of Rome has decided that, in order to be joined to him with the closest bond of love, this most illustrious and excellent Philip Francis Faxicura Rocuyemon should be decorated with the most ample gift of Roman Citizenship, and deservedly<ref>I.e. "honorarily"?</ref> be elected to the senatorial order. The senate decided with the unanimous consent of all, to refer this wish and sentiment to public leters,<ref>I.e. to an inscription, or perhaps this manuscript.</ref> by means of the same Holy Senate's scribes, for eternal memory, so that it might be seen that it is giving no greater a favor or honor than it has received. In the year 2366 [[Ab Urbe Condita|from the founding of the City]],<ref>Based on the usual calculation, this would be AD 1613, which does not match the year given. The year AD 1615 is confirmed by other sources, e.g. [[Luis Sotelo]]'s ''De Ecclesiae Iaponicae Statu Relatio''.</ref> and the year [[1615]] from the redemption of the world, on day 12 before the [[kalends]] of December.<ref>I.e. [[November 20]] [http://www.wilkiecollins.demon.co.uk/roman/calco1.htm]</ref>"


===Notes===
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Voice of All: Thanks for posting this. I hadn't saved a back-up, and this was a huge loss. I'm glad to have it back. --Iustinus 20:12, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Carrot unprotection

Could I ask why you decided to unprotect Carrot? It's been subject to a huge amount of vandalism in the last month or two, up until the time it was protected. Waitak 11:49, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Responses to the questions you didn't like

Might I ask you to explain what exactly you didn't like about the responses to the questions on my RfA? Thanks! --ScienceApologist 09:47, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RFCU

Ray of Sunshine
Ray of Sunshine

For making me smile when I see that my Watchlist is filled with someone diligently clearing out cases that needed to be closed/archived. Good work. Essjay (Talk • Connect) 13:12, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Babri_Mosque

Nobleeagle has removed all citation tags in the article with the midleading edit summary rv POV of Anwar saadat. You have inadvertently protected the page at that point. Now the article has no tags but contains full of fundamentalist POV. Is it possible to rectify it? Anwar 13:49, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

What a humorous person this Anwar Saadat is. After vandalizing the article, he begins to combine vandalism and the deletion of references with the addition of the fact templates. Now his vandalism cannot be reverted because in the same edit he also added some dozens of fact templates, often in the same paragraph? He even deleted the citations and added the "citation needed" for the citation he just deleted in numerous cases. See [26]. Anwar should use the "unreferenced" tag instead, but of course he will not: it would not be nearly as disruptive. --Msiev 09:07, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Billy Joel

Hi, did you forget to unprotect this page? Thanks Arniep 19:27, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Prometheuspan

Why did you delete Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Prometheuspan? As far as I know, Essjay wanted us to keep all the checkuser requests, even the ones that are declined. It also had a prior case, so if you really want it deleted you need to delist it from /Case. Thatcher131 20:15, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

The Case/ page is getting a lot added to it, and I'd rather not let fishing/invalid request go there. I talked to Mackensen about this a while back on IRC and he doesn't mind.Voice-of-All 21:51, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Semi-protection

Please don't unprotect pages on Portuguese royalty or the Pretender page that have been semi-protected, for the moment. One user called Manuel de Sousa has been using IPs et al for over a year now to doctor pages to insert dodgy claims that some woman was the illegimate daughter of the second last Portuguese king and so she and her heirs, not the actual heirs, are the real pretenders to the throne. They have been blocked and reblocked over and over again. A host of users have found themselves reverting the vandalism often daily, on occasions hourly or by the minute. Because as de Sousa jumps between IPs blocks on their own doesn't stop it.

In the end the only way those dealing with this asshole have had to try to stop it is to semi-protect the pages for a while; long enough for the asshole (who seems to work for the so-called pretender and is trying to use WP to promote their 'cause') to give up and go away. The page listing protections have notes telling people to leave them locked for the time being — the pages aren't edited by anyone but him: most are obscure, so no-one is being inconvenienced. But then, after a short time someone innocently unblocks one or more of the pages, de Sousa sees it, comes back and the whole farce begins yet again. You have (innocently) unblocked one of the pages. Luckily de Sousa didn't notice that it had been unblocked yet. Otherwise round 40 of the edit warring would have started. *sigh*. Please in the cases of Portugal royal topics, leave the pages protected for the moment. We have had a year of vandalism from that asshole (who not only tries to POV the page but does it in garbled English, so not only is it agenda-pushing, but it is garbled agenda-pushing!!!). A lot of users are fed up daily cleaning up de Sousa's mess. Semi-protecting seems to be the best way to fell the idiot to fuck off. Hopefully it will work and we will finally see the back of the nutcase and his flaming endless quotes about 18th century documents, Vatican tribunal rulings, yada yada yada *yawn* FearÉIREANN\(caint) 01:11, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Useful js

AmiDaniel pointed me in the direction of a javascript that allows you to hide closed AFDs on the AFD date page; it might be a helpful addition to your umbrella js if you're interested. I've integrated it into my page (with limited knowledge, so I'm sure it's not the most efficient way to do it...) (ESkog)(Talk) 03:18, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Added.Voice-of-All 07:44, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Raul Castro

User utilising multitude IP addresses (including one now blocked) is now vandalising my talk page and making assertions about me on the talk page of Raul Castro.--Zleitzen 03:49, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rushton

There doesn't seem to be any conceivable problem here. If, against all odds, an edit war were to break out again, it's much simpler to replace a tag than to debate against well-meaning WP editors and force them to accept your decision.--Nectar 09:21, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Is it possible to semi-protect the Rushton page, now that the full protection was removed? Should I just put another request up on the noticeboard? Thanks! --JereKrischel 02:05, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Semi-protection of Requests for Adminship

Can you provide a good reasoning why you semi-protected that page? You might recall that the foundation issues say that anyone may edit. Do you now disagree with that? Kim Bruning 20:01, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] contribs in IP range

You got a script that shows contributions in an IP range? It gets boring clicking 50 contrib links to check an AOL range. I'd love to obtain this script. Kevin_b_er 23:23, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Note that it only checks back 20 contribs (an arbitrary number), and still use more server use for higher ranges. Also not that it only iterates over the last block, like a /24 bit check or less, you'll have to split it up to get it additional ranges. This is due to the fact that ranges larger than /24 tend to be useless and waste server use. That said, the script can be found here [27].Voice-of-All 23:29, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Yeah I ganked it out of the specialadmin js. Seems to work pretty good, though apparently does so synchronously. Kevin_b_er 00:16, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your bot on Rajput

Hi, could you check what your bot User:VoABot is doing on Rajput? It's apparently trying to protect it from the Rajput vandal, but instead it is actually reverting to the vandal's version, preventing User:ImpuMozhi and myself from de-vandalizing it. Thanks for your attention. --Scabbers the Rat 13:42, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

VoA, please get the action right on the [[Rajput] page. Your bot is inadvertantly protecting the wrong version. Regards, ImpuMozhi 21:01, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I'll check over the diffs and regexes to see why it is triggers. Thanks.Voice-of-All 21:18, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Non-admin anti-vandal rollback tool

First of all, I like the tool, esepcially its checking that the most recent edit is by the vandal to avoid double-reverting. One feature that would really help would be a box for non-standard text - sometimes I want to revert a possibly-good-faith (but unhelpful) edit by a new user without calling them a vandal, or just generally be more descriptive. Pseudomonas 21:34, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Its called "revert (AGF)", but it is only in the admin version (which still use GML, but just add two more reverts for different cases, the other being vandalism). I will be working on a user conbribs conparison script, so I won't be able to get around to such a thing for a while.Voice-of-All 21:50, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Zakk Wylde

Hi, after you unprotected the page, a large chunk of text was deleted. I tried to restore it, but your bot reverted the change. Could this text be restored please?

[edit] Portuguese pretender

Hi, I am Manuel de Sousa and my real account was blocked because accused me of vandalism but this is not true. I defend only the objective hystorical truth based on offcial documents. In Portugal there are many pretenders but many people here want the knowledge of only one pretender, Duarte Pio, Duke of Braganza. But also another pretender there was and this is Hilda Toledano and now Rosario Poidimani. This was daughter of the king Charles of Portugal and this is also write in the definitive sentence of Sacra Romana Rota. So the doubts of many persons here about if Maria Pia is daughter of the King were only their doubts because the documents affirms that she was daughter. She is considered pretender and also Rosario Poidimani for many Portuguese monarchists. I wrote to Jtdirl page this : "I wrote only objective and documented facts. If you write "impostor pretender" in Maria Pia page or fake pretender in "pretender" page this is NPOV affirmations. You can't write this. Infact I don't understand why you continue to insert the name of Maria Pia of Braganza and Rosario Poidimani as false pretender to Portuguese Crown in wikipedia page as the voice "pretender" and "Hilda Toledano". The pretension of these pretenders has value for many portuguese monarchists, historians, Tribunals so if you define these pretenders as false or impostor this is a defamation, so please have the courage of your words and indicate me your real name and address so I am sure dom Rosario Poidimani will bring an legal action against you and you will be able to explain your convictions and diffamations in a Tribunal. Many monarchic associationes consider Rosario Poidimani a pretender [28],[29],[30]; many famous hystorians [31]; the most historian portuguese encyclopedia consider Maria Pia as pretender[32],[33] and in many sentences of international Tribunals [34],[35]. So please stop with this partial consideration about false o impostor pretender. Your considerations, also if you are an administrator here, have no objective value and so please reinsert Rosario Poidimani as true pretender in pretender page and delete impostor pretender in Maria Pia page. So please explain me where I can see that these pretender are fake. What are sentences of Tribunal that states this? For many monarchist this pretender is the lawful pretender so please reinsert this pretender as true pretender. At the contrary I must advise all the other admistrator about this abuse of power. Can explain me why you don't insert in Duarte page his opposition about his claims? Is not convenient for the objective truth? "

Infact I don't understand also because they don't want write in Duarte Pio page the opposition of him claims. This is not impartial method in an encyclopedya. You are the most important administrator here so PLEASE take part in this discussion and insert Maria Pia and Rosario Poidimani as true pretender in pretender page and delete impostor pretender in Maria Pia page and insert opposition claim in Duarte Pio page and rewrite in impartial way Maria Pia page. For example I don't understand because they use the name Hilda Toledano if in all her official documents states as Maria Pia de Saxe Coburg Braganza [36],[37]. They put in the mind of the people only doubts but without certainties because their words are not proved or documentated , at the contrary when I write is only documentated words. This article in not NPOV and is not impartial. Please help me. I ask only this: the impartial truth and not the Duarte Pio supporter truth. Thanks! Manuel de Sousa, 13 July 2006 (UTC)82.54.244.85 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · block user · block log)

Please see also the official wiki page in portuguese language about the duke of braganza where Maria Pia is considered Maria Pia Saxe Coburg Braganza (only a.k.a. Hilda Toledano, but not her most famous name, it is only a pseudonym wneh she was a writer).Many monarchists considered her and now Rosario Poidimani as lawful Portuguese pretender . See [38] Thanks! Manuel de Sousa, 13 July 2006 (UTC)82.54.244.85 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · block user · block log)

[edit] My RfA

Hi, I would like to express my gratitude for your participation at my recent RfA. The final vote was 68/21/3 and resulted in me becoming an admin!

For those of you who supported my RfA, I highly appreciate your kind words and your trust in me. For those who opposed - many of you expressed valid concerns regarding my activity here; I will make an effort in addressing them as time goes on while at the same time using my admin tools appropriately. So, salamat, gracias, merci, ありがとう, спасибо, धन्यवाद, 多謝, agyamanak unay, شكرًا, cảm ơn, 감사합니다, mahalo, ขอบคุณครับ, go raibh maith agat, dziękuję, ευχαριστώ, Danke, תודה, mulţumesc, გმადლობთ, etc.! If you need any help, feel free to contact me.

PS: I took the company car (pictured left) out for a spin, and well... it's not quite how I pictured it. --Chris S. 23:47, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Additions to semi-protected list

I'm not sure if I'm supposed to contact you before or after adding articles to Wikipedia:List of protected pages#Protected against spambots or banned users... Anyway, Bay of Gibraltar and La Línea de la Concepción need to be semi-protected probably permanently against obsessive vandalism by the banned User:Gibraltarian, which has been ongoing since January (!). -- ChrisO 07:37, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

If you add the {{sprotect-banned}} tag to it, it will be added to Category:Semi-protected from banned users. If you want to add pages to the bot watchlist, then you do have to contact me, so that they can actually be watched (and not inadvertedly deleted from the list when the bot updates it). I'll see what I can do. Voice-of-All 07:42, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
The tag's already on one article but not the other - I've added it. Thanks for the help. -- ChrisO 07:53, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] See also portuguese newspaper about their pretender

Hi, also one of the most famous newspaper in Portugal "Destak" [39] of today 14 July 2006, in the page 5, tells about the portuguese succesion and mentioned dom Rosario Poidimani as pretender and Dom Duarte Pio as an illegitimate pretender for his exclusion from the last monarchic Constitution. This affirmation was an affirmation of the president of the P.P.M. The only Moanrchic Party in Portugal. So please again reinsert Rosario Poidimani as a true pretender,Maria Pia as true pretender and Duarte Pio opposition in his page. Please reply Manuel de Sousa, 14 July 2006 (UTC)82.54.244.85 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · block user · block log) In particular: One of the most famous portuguese newspaper, the “Destak”, http://www.destak.pt/default.asp , today 14 july in the page 5 entitled: “ Royal War divides portuguese monarchists” and writes about the war between portuguese pretenders. Many supporters of the pretender dom Rosario Poidimani claim the legitimate rights as Duke of Braganza of this italian prince after the abdication of the last daughter of the king Charles of Portugal. Many of these monarchists attacks the pretender Duarte Pio of Braganza because the last monarchic constitution of 1838 excluded perpetually dom Miguel and all his descendant (of which Duarte Pio is one) and also because in really Duarte Pio of Braganza born in Swiss territory of Berna and not in the portuguese ambassy of Berna (because in 1945 there was the “Banimento” Law) and so he is a Swiss without power of succession for the last monarchic constitution. In particular the president of P.P.M., the only monarchic party in Portugal affirms the illegitimate of Duarte Pio of Braganza as duke of Braganza and also as pretender and so affirms that now Duarte Pio in Portugal is considered from most the head of the Royal House of Portugal only because the miguelist branch hides and falsifies the historical truth of Portuguese Royal House. Best regards Manuel de Sousa, 14 July 2006 (UTC)82.54.244.85 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · block user · block log)

[edit] Request for banning 83.1992.2006

I would like to request that 83.1992.2006 be banned from editing the FC Barcelona article and that the article be given extra protection against him. He has behaved like a vandal, continuously adding incorrect and inaccurate info to the article. His edits fail to recognise the following facts.

  • FC Barcelona has never won the UEFA Cup and reference to this competition should not be included in the major trophies section. They have however won the Inter-Cities Fairs Cup, a precursor competition, on three occasions.
  • There are separate articles about the Supporters of FC Barcelona and FC Barcelona in Europe and these can be expanded. Excessive info/stats and external links about these subjects does not need to be here as they only make the page exceed article size.
  • The following statement cannot be substantiated. "In May 2006 the number of club members (socis in catalan language) surpassed 140,000 making the club third worldwide only to Manchester United and Benfica." I'm not sure it is possible to accurately measure how many supporters actually support any particular club, so statements like this should go.

While inserting these edits over and over again, 83.1992.2006 shows no regard for other edits from genuine editors. Edits have to be reinserted constantly or they become lost. Despite several requests from myself and other editors, he refuses to discuss anything on Talk: FC Barcelona and he also uses a misleading User ID. At least two other editors, Yonatanh and Bcnviajero have expressed concern about his edits. Djln--Djln 16:59, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you for your support!

Hello Voice of All and thank you for your support at my Request for Adminship, which succeeded with a final tally of (67/0/0)! Please don't hesitate to let me know if you have suggestions or requests - either of an admin nature or otherwise! :)

Wknight94 (Talk | contribs) 23:24, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Habbo Hotel

You removed the sprotected tag on Habbo Hotel but never unprotected the page - oops! :) --james // bornhj (talk) 03:56, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Ooops indeed. Done.Voice-of-All 04:44, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nikki Grahame

can you unprotect this page please.

[edit] Zeq and anon IP

The abuse would have been circumventing a ban on editing Operation Summer Rains. See the edit and the ban notice (which is not there currently as it was later removed by an anon IP). Homey 22:07, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Heads up

Just wanted to give you a heads up on using the bureaucrat script to delist failing RfAs, like [40]. Be sure you alter the automatic edit summary to reflect that it's an early closure; otherwise, it may be misinterpreted as closing a full term RfA in lieu of a bureaucrat doing so. I saw it come across my watchlist and had to go check the RfA to see why a non-bureaucrat was closing it; it worries me that someone less likely to investigate and more likely to start screaming would have stirred up a lot of problem over something that really wasn't. (You know how it can be around here.) Anyhow, just wanted to drop the suggestion. Essjay (Talk) 19:39, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VoABot mistake on Requests for page protection

Here VoABot mistakenly classified a request for protection of Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe as fulfilled/denied when the request was still outstanding. Tim Smith 22:42, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Fixed, I've modified the algorythm...though I still have to copy over to the computer that runs the bot.Voice-of-All 23:37, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Friend

I'll be your friend :). I'll start by pointing out that on one of your userboxes, it says this user a CheckUser clerk. Wikibout-Talk to me! 05:03, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] La Línea de la Concepción

I noticed that you unprotected this article. Please don't - the page is the subject of a long-term vandalism spree by the former Gibraltarian, who is one of the most persistent vandals I've ever come across. He's been hitting this and other Gibraltar-related articles and their talk pages on at least a daily basis for at least the last seven months (just yesterday he vandalised Talk:La Línea de la Concepción five times). We can't ban his IP range because he's using Gibraltar's only ISP - our other Gibraltarian users would become collateral damage. Regrettably, these articles need to be semi-protected for a lengthy period. -- ChrisO 08:11, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm afraid that the articles you just unprotected have been vandalised again by Gibraltarian. This is a long-term vandal who has been at it for months. The only way we're going to get rid of him is to stop him from vandalising in the first place. Is your bot able to detect anonymous and newly registered accounts vandalising the articles? It doesn't seem to have intervened on most of the articles in question. If it can't do this, we need to reprotect those articles. -- ChrisO 07:13, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, it wasn't running for several hours due to a reboot.Voice-of-All 18:15, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] John Cena

The John Cena page is getting heavily attacked! I dont think you should unprotect it for a good few months.

[edit] Sanctimonius

Stop pretending to be neutral and fair, you are Wiki-Taliban hiding behind a rock like most administrators. You arbitrarily block and protect pages for your pals so they can beat the crap out of anyone who dares to disagree with their points of view! You are a fake, phony, and fraud. If you believe you are not, I dare you to leave this message on here! Better yet, why don't you delete it and protect your own page! ///// Truth_be_Known

[edit] Trinity Grammar School (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Twice, I have requested this page for protection and the amount of reccent activity has not made it justfiable, either it needs to be watchlisted by as many as possible, or VoABot (talk · contribs) needs to watchlist it and automatically revert backlisted edits. So what do you think? Myrtone (☏) 14:11, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Kitty May Ellis (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

Thank you for unprotecting, but when I go to this page it still says its protected. This was a simple redirect to Kittie May Ellis. Can you also unprotect that second page? Thanks. Wjhonson 20:47, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I unprotected Holocaust, but when I listed it, someone already added a RfPP section, so the offset was wrong, so it went to the wrong section.Voice-of-All 20:59, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
While I was in the middle of trying to rewrite the article, and it was marked with Hangon and Underconstruction both, it was marked for speedy delete and deleted. How am I supposed to write the article to "conform" when I dont' even get the chance to finish writing it? Argh. Wjhonson 21:06, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] huh?

i thought wikipedia didnt have siggies-do you mean my nickname thing in my preferneces?SNAPE KILLS A FLY HAHAHAH PWNED! 02:21, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Your user name is OK, but the name on your signature is not.Voice-of-All 02:25, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

oh the snape kills a fly one,ok ill change it.

[edit] Thank you so much

Hi, VoA. Fist of all, thank you so much for your kind words. And thank you for all your help during this request of mine, not only here on the English-language Wikipedia, but also at Meta. You've been invaluable in making this go as smoothly as possible! I really can't thank you enough. Cheers, Redux 02:50, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] the oscar guiterrez page

i do have it on my watchlist,its just that they add so much its really hard.i am snape.i killed innocent bugs. 04:40, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict

Can you re-semi-protect this article, this is getting a large amount of vandalism, a good portion from ip's. Hello32020 19:55, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Looks like someone else took care of it.Voice-of-All 23:03, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Has again been unprotected. Please re-semi-protect. Hello32020 00:01, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm afraid you'll have to ask a different admin this time.Voice-of-All 00:04, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Time math.

A friendly reminder; its not a big problem, so don't take it as such. Its mon, July 24 2006 3:00 (UTC), and the checkuser request you recently archived ended on 00:36, 21 July 2006 (UTC). Archive time is 4 days. You've been almost perfectly spot-on for a 3 day archive time period. People tend to make mistakes in mental math made around time since a 0 and 1 numeral, so I figured you might've done the same. Kevin_b_er 03:04, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Ohh...I used to due four and when I asked Essjay he said 3-4. This was still a while ago, so it must have changed. Sorry, noted. BTW, I write advanced javascript, and whether something starts at 1 or 0, and what gives index amounts and true amounts has confused me several times before :).Voice-of-All 03:19, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Yeshivah of Flatbush

Unless you're willing to babysit the article yourself, and immediately revert all the vandalism to it, please stop unprotecing the Yeshivah of Flatbush article. It has been undergoing sustained vandalism attacks, which start up soon after you unprotect. As this is now the third go-round of sprotecting the article, I suggest it would be better to wait several weeks this time, until the vandalizing editors get bored and go play elsewhere. Jayjg (talk) 00:20, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Irritating bot

Your bot is constantly pestering me [41][42] for a number of protection notices that are well explained ([43], [44]) and I'm starting to get very annoyed with it. Raul654 05:08, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User scripts

Shouldn't user scripts be protected, so someone doesn't change them with nasty effects, or is this not a problem? —Centrx→talk • 17:14, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Any script subpage of an existing user is protected by default (the user and admin only can edit it). So that usually not an issue.Voice-of-All 19:01, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Eluchil404's RfA

Thank you for taking the time to express an opinion in my recent request for adminship. I have withdrawn my self-nomination because there seemed little prospect for further productive discussion or the formation of a consensus to promote. Many commentators offered constructive critisism that I will use to improve myself as a user. Others suggested that the nomination was premature and that a re-nom in a few months would be more likely to gain consensus. Thank you for your constructive critisism. Eluchil404 19:24, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit count

What program do you use to count edits? I'm just curious. I can't seem to find anything out there that seems to replicate the same layout of results as your counts. Do you like sit there and manually do it? :P --T. Moitie 21:41, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A note about Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Samuel_Luo

This request (you just closed) is part of an ongoing issue regarding the block of CovenantD in that page. If it matters or you're interested, more details are under the AMA request on my talk page. Regards, --Kickstart70-T-C 03:53, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

 Thank you so much for voting in my recent RFA. It passed on the relatively narrow vote of 38/8/8. It was also one of the least-participated-in RFA nominations in several months, so pat yourself on the back, and join the party on your left, but first, take your cookie!

NOTE: I can't code HTML to save my life. I copied this from Misza13. I guess I should write him a thank you note as well. Cookies sold separately. Batteries not included. Offer not valid with other coupons. May contain peanuts or chicken. Keep out of the reach of small children, may present a choking hazard to children under the age of 3. Do not take with alcohol. This notice has a dark background and therefore may be eaten by a grue at any time. The receiver of this message, hereafter referred to as "Pudding Head" relinquishes all rights and abilities to file a lawsuit or any other litigious activities. RyanGerbil10, Jimbo Wales, and the states of Georgia, North Dakota and Wisconsin are not liable for any lost or stolen items or damage from errant shopping carts.

Thank you so much! RyanGerbil10(The people rejoice!) 04:05, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Criticism of Islam

Could you please add a disputed tag on the top of the page. If you look at the talk page, it's overwhelmingly clear the content is highly disputed. His Excellency... 18:49, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Having trouble with non-admin rollback .js

I'm currently working on a different computer than normal, and it isn't working right... Though I thought it was just a few days ago, which makes me wonder if something changed in the script? Maybe I really hadn't tried it yet on this computer - but it's the same OS and browser as the other. (XP SP2 and latest release of Firefox). I get this error on any page: "Failed to parse XML data returned by the server. Hint: try to disable both "Enable section editing by right-clicking on section titles (JavaScript)" and "Edit pages on double click (JavaScript)" in your editing preferences until a proper fix is found.", followed by pages of stuff. I checked, and both those options are already off, and I haven't changed anything else either. Also, this is only when clicking the blue revert link on a diff page - if I use the red "revert to this version", it works fine. -Goldom ‽‽‽ ⁂ 04:16, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Iglesia ni Cristo troubles

I noticed you protected the Iglesia ni Cristo article. You may want to take a look at WP:ANI#User:Emico_sock_proxies_and_Iglesia_ni_Cristo. I need your input on this matter. Thanks --LBMixPro<Speak|on|it!> 04:19, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:B/AG

Its a secret society, run by the cabal! Looks like the last few (including myself) were invited by the existing members at the time. Being a regular contributor to the discussions, and being a bot operator are unofficial requirements. — xaosflux Talk 05:11, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

WP:RFBOT had a huge backlog, and Essjay just made some signigant rewrites of the page (sectioning), and cleared out >30 requests that were backlogged. I just (this week) got added to the approvals group, prior to that I was smoewhat active in the discussions, but not making any approvals. Some of the other "approvers" are active, but may have not been editing much if they didn't object to the approvals being made by others, User:Freakofnurture and User:Pgk are fairly active elsewhere as well. Community input is welcome on that page at all time, of course. — xaosflux Talk 20:00, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Activity on WP:BRFA

VOA, I'm a little confused about this edit. First off, it seems a lot like a bot edit, but you're obviously not a bot. Second, it modifies what people are saying in a discussion. I'm obviously a lot newer to Wikipedia than you are, but I didn't think that was OK to do. I'd really appreciate if you responded on my talk. Thanks, αChimp laudare 18:48, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I dunno. Even though it doesn't modify my actual language, I still don't like my posts modified in any way. Obviously you can keep running the script, but I don't really agree with it. Running on articles and running on talk and project pages seem very different to me. Do you actually look at the changes before the script saves them? αChimp laudare 19:38, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Yes, it auto-clicks preview, and I have to click "save" for it to work. I rarely run it on talk pages though.Voice-of-All 19:40, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:VoABot II

Please wait until this bot is approved for a trial before runing it anymore. See comment on WP:RFBOT regarding a recent edit it made. — xaosflux Talk 22:38, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your patience! Your bot has been approved for trials, please see the notes on WP:RFBOT. — xaosflux Talk 14:23, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit breakdown

I want to see my edit breakdown - the percentage edits in each namespace etc ie what is posted to many RfAs. (not Interiot's tool) Is there a tool I can use to do this? ViridaeTalk 11:47, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! ViridaeTalk 22:54, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I never did at the start. I now have the "prompt me when making a edit with a blank summary" ticked. Forcing me to provide one. ViridaeTalk 23:01, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lightbringer RFCU

Can you check the formatting on that last edit you did? It looks a bit wonky...--SarekOfVulcan 00:37, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Regarding what?

[edit] protecting

I mentioned before the problems that exist with Pretender, Hilda Toledano and some related articles. The problem is simple. A user called Manuel de Souza spent months inserting widely discredited claims suggesting that a self-proclaimed illegitimate daughter of the second last Portuguese king (a kind of Portuguese version of Anna Anderson) had been the legitimate pretender to the defunct Portuguese throne, and that another guy had been named as heir by her. Most people regard the claims as 100% bullshit but for months de Souza kept doctoring articles to claim that she and since her death her so-called heir are the real pretenders and the real pretender is a fake. Endless edit wars have been fought all over Portuguese pages about this for at least a year now. Finally when Souza would not stop he was banned from the site. Now he openly admits to using IP sockpuppets to doctoring articles to continue to push the claims (in frequently garbled English which on occasion have reduced articles to gobbledigook).

As users are struggling to keep up with the vandalism, the above two articles and two or three more have had to be semi-protected. That stops them being under seige. But then some well-meaning user comes along and removes the semi-protection after a couple of days. De Souza immediately pounces and garbles them again. If we are lucky, people spot it immediately and fight a reversion war until they are semi-protected and the various new batch of sockpuppets blocked. If we are unlucky a couple of innocent users have edit after him and various users then end up digging back through the archives to try to piece together the original article with correct changes while finding all the bits of rubbish de Souza has inserted and removed them again.

Is there any other solution you can think of bar resorting to semi-protecting these articles? You would think after at least a year of this farce the prick de Souza would have given up, realised that his POV crap is not being added on to Wikipedia, and looked for some other site to use to promote his claims. (I suspect, as do others, that he works for, or is linked to, the self-proclaimed pretender, and is trying to use WP as a means to promote his cause.) The best I can come up with is to hope that if the articles are left in a semi-protected state for a few weeks he might give up and go away. Unfortunately they never get to remain semi-protected for long enough. Just when he might be tiring of waiting, someone unprotects them. He spots it, comes rushing back and starts the edit warring again. And the same bunch of users (luckily for Wikipedia they are so dedicated) end up undoing the damage and trying to find an available admin to block his various IPs and protect the pages again. FearÉIREANN\(caint) 00:57, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your comment

what WP:PA do you mean? there are entire sections to attack me on that page by people that doesn't even contribute at all. There should be more attention to make talk pages about content and not about attacking people. I just aded a section with no attacks, actually just complements and two regular editors took it off without concensus. I didn't know I could also do that. That's just perfect, I can go aroud taking whatever I don't like.--T-man, the wise 01:06, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your comment on User:Inge's talk page

Hi Voice of All. I just noticed your note on WP:PAIN regarding User:Comanche cph. Consequently, I'm somewhat surprised that you've posted the warning on User:Inge's page instead. To me it looks like you've mixed up the two editors. Regards. Valentinian (talk) 08:39, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Duarte Pio, Duke of Braganza

you've unprotected this article and it started immidiatly to be vandalized by Manuel, using an ip address...everyone is reverting, but the guy doesnt stop! --Pedro 11:15, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Is correct to insert in Duarte Pio page the opposition to him claims because in Portugal there are many people that consider Duarte Pio not the duke of Braganza. This becauseDuarte Pio is excluded by the last monarchic contitution because he is a miguelist descendant (of the usurper king Miguel), because he is Swiss born and because he is not the most direct relative of the last king of Portugal. Infact if for absurdity had not existed Maria Pia of Saxe Coburg Braganza, the last daughter of the king Charles, before Duarte Pio there are 36 others pretenders more direct to the last king of Portugal than him. So is absurd to consider Duarte Pio of Braganza the legitimate pretender to portuguese Crown or the legitimate duke of Braganza. Why the supporters of Duarte Pio want delete and hide this important informations about this pretender? MS, 12:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Hilda Toledano, (Maria Pia of Saxe Coburg Braganza) and the paragraph about the considerations

In an encyclopedia as wikipedia has no value the considerations because they are only personal considerations and has not objective value. Here we must insert only fact and documents and not consideration or talks. So please delete the paragraph about the consideration in Hilda Toledano/Maria Pia Saxe Coburg page because are NPOV. Thanks . MS, 12:20, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Can also explain me because you entitled this page Hilda Toledano and not Maria Pia Saxe Coburg Braganza. This woman real name is Maria Pia Saxe Coburg Braganza. This is reported in all her official documents. She used the name Hilda Toledano only as writer, and this is only a pseudonym. But here we discuss about Maria Pia for her claims as heir to Royal House of Portugal and not as a writer so please change the name of this page in Maria Pia of Saxe Cobur Braganza. MS, 12:35, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding your comment

I am a bit pussled. Could you elaborate. You say on the personal attack page that the user has been notified. But you have left a comment on my talk starting with: "Your comments with User:Inge have become less that civil at time" . Was that comment for Comanche or for me? I appreciate your involvement, but I'm not sure what to make of it. The issue regarding this user is complex and I have been in the front line of trying to direct him towards a more axceptable behaviour. This has meant I have had to take the brunt of his "attacks". I repported him now because he has been accusing me in talk pages of pushing a pro Norwegian POV and stating that many of my contributions have been reverted. Both statements are false and are made only to discredit me. I believe that to be a personal attack. He has been previously blocked for describing other users as nationalist. I urge you to take a closer look at this users history (not only the block log), and previous Incident notices such as this one. Hope to hear from you. Inge 14:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, that was just a mis-post due to me clicking the wrong talk page link; fixed.Voice-of-All 18:39, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
I see you fixed it now. Thanks:) Just wanted to point out as well that I didn't call him a vandal or state he was blocked for vandalism (allthough some of his behaviour might be described as such). I did revert some of his first edits and described them as vandalism in the edit summary because they appeared to be random removal of text. I stopped that emediately when I realised it was a user trying to assert his opinion on the subject. I stated in the alert that he has called other users vandals. Inge 19:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Voice of All/Specialadmin/monobook.js

There seems to be something slightly wrong with this script - See [45], [46] and [47]. Thanks, — FireFox (talk) 16:47, 31 July '06

And also, while I'm on the subject - where it asks you to confirm a complete rollback or reverting all moves, it says "Confirm type:" and then nothing else. What are you meant to type? Thanks, — FireFox (talk) 17:25, 31 July '06
Fixed. Also, see this[48].Voice-of-All 19:01, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Ah, right, I wondered what that was about. Cheers, — FireFox (talk) 19:22, 31 July '06
Sorry to bother you about this again, but for some reason, when you use the admin revert button and you get beaten to the revert, it prompts you to delete the page (for example, like this: [49]). Thanks, — FireFox (talk) 11:08, 01 August '06
Fixed. It will only do that if the author is the only contributor now.Voice-of-All 07:18, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. This will be the last thing, I promise; I am unsure about where to put this. So far, the only way I have been able to get it to work is by copying out the whole code, and editing the values in that? I presume there is a way to make it work by only using what is shown here, but I don't know where to change the values? Thanks, — FireFox (talk) 10:45, 02 August '06
There are default values for the confirm codes, but its probably better to just copy that script (with the three variables) to the .js file of yours and edit them.Voice-of-All 18:35, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Like this? Because it just comes up with "operation aborted" when I try to do that. — FireFox (talk) 19:11, 02 August '06
It works :) thanks very much. — FireFox (talk) 10:28, 03 August '06
I said before that that would be the last thing, and I intended it to be but... I tried using the revert all moves feature today, with this move log, but it only opened one tab and performed one revert. Just letting you know, there might be a bug of some kind here. Thanks, — FireFox (talk) 14:26, 03 August '06
Thanks :) Sorry to keep bothering you with this! I'm really impressed with this whole thing by the way, it's really good – you must have spent a lot of time and hard work on it! Cheers, — FireFox (talk) 19:21, 03 August '06

[edit] User:VoA/monobook.js

Hi, did you recently add rollback links to contribs? I was wondering if you could remove them or only show them on users other then your own as they look a bit messy? Matthew Fenton (contribs) 07:52, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VoABot II

Howdy!!! VoABot II does not appear to be giving "test1," "test2," etc. warnings after reverting vandalism. Can this be fixed somehow? Kukini 21:51, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Gotcha. I hope we someday come up with a better answer for AOL/shared IP folk. But...onward and upward. Kukini 23:10, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
Another side not on VoABot II... it doesn't catch interspersed vandalism. I saw it get all but one bit of vandalism from a user (which ended when another user put something random in), so I had to go back and revert past back the bot... Dunno if that's physically possible to fix, but just a note. Logical2u 23:15, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA and your vote

 Hi Jason,
Thanks for participating in my RFA! Ultimately, no consensus was reached, but I still appreciate the fact that you showed up to add in your two cents. I can assure you that I will focus on making a large amount of article contribs in these upcoming months. You can feel free to talk to me about it or add some advice on my improvement page.


Sincerely, The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me)


[edit] User:WordBomb sockpuppet

Thatcher131 suggested that I drop you a line about this page[50], which consists entirely of posts by a sockpuppet of a banned user evading an indefinite ban. He said you might want to delete this just as the main page was deleted.--Mantanmoreland 04:02, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Done (actually I deleted it right before noticing this message). Cases of at least some merit are preserved for future reference. Since this is a garbage request, there is no need to keep it on the record against you.Voice-of-All 04:09, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. It appears still on the Talk page, but I trust that will be removed?--Mantanmoreland 04:25, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dafturd Sockpuppet

The checkuser case showed that there were sockpuppets being used for WP:POINT as well as vote stacking in an AfD. Why wasn't the user banned or at the very minimum tagged as a sockpuppet? Is there something more I need to do? IrishGuy talk 04:23, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

OK, I've blocked the IP for a week and the accounts indefinetely.Voice-of-All 22:08, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Thank you very much. In the future, is there any particular action I need to do after a puppet is confirmed by checkuser? IrishGuy talk 22:41, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A third-party unblock request

Hi VoA! I'm just clearing out Category:Requests for unblock and there's one of yours in there: User:Chrisirwin on IP 192.94.94.106 has been hit by one of your range blocks on Rajput. Now, I'm useless with range blocks, both applying and removing them - could you clear this bit of collateral damage for him? Thanks in advance if you can. ➨ ЯEDVERS 20:58, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

I've modified the block to only effect anons (but it stop account creation too, so any socks will run out).Voice-of-All 21:38, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VoABot II

Sorry for having to block your bot; however it seems to be having a few problems, i.e., [51]. There are other similar diffs if you'd like me to dig them up. Please let me know once the problem has been corrected or if there was something here I failed to understand. AmiDaniel (talk) 23:58, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:RPP

Hi Voc, You said that you protected Noua Dreaptă at WP:RPP, but it appears to still be unprotected. Perhaps you forgot? —Khoikhoi 00:56, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

I've decided to just range block instead for now.Voice-of-All 01:18, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. —Khoikhoi 01:30, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please delete Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Mantanmoreland

Please delete Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Mantanmoreland as an abusive request filed by two sock puppets of a banned user. Fred Bauder has made it clear on ANI and his talk page that he is not entertaining any more requests in this case. Whisky Tango (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) is a reincarnation of Whiskey Tango (talk · contribs), a confirmed sock of blocked user WordBomb, and if Barbamama (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) isn't also a sock of WordBomb, its a sock of someone else in this feud. Blocking those two accounts wouldn't hurt either. Thatcher131 (talk) 01:15, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Done.Voice-of-All 01:20, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Super. Although I'm sure this isn't the last we'll hear of this guy. Thatcher131 (talk) 01:25, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rollback

I can see that the rollback actually works, but I am unable to rollback through the contributions/history pages. Is there a problem in the script, or a problem in something else? Ryūlóng 08:10, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Fixed :).Voice-of-All 08:24, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Okay :D. Ryūlóng 08:30, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Do I have to load the script, again? Cause when trying to test it on my own talk page I got "Page rollback error: Invalid token!" Ryūlóng 08:32, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Okay, it does work (I had to force a reload) but should I be able to rollback from the history page? Ryūlóng 08:34, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
A history page rollback would only be able to revert the last edit (though a "revision restore is possible"). This can be accomplished by clicking "last" and then "rollback". Voice-of-All 08:36, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
Ah... Thank you. Ryūlóng 08:37, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please help

Please protected arcicle: Rapcore. User:Egr / 85.18.14.4 is vandal. Some users reverted edits by User:Egr / 85.18.14.4. Please protected arcicle. LUCPOL 20:27, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Fully protected due to revert warring. Voice-of-All 01:29, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Ah, a handy comment section on just the very topic. I notice you're a RFCU clerk, v-o-a, so I'd be interested if the pattern of editing on said article rings as many sockpuppet alarm bells for you, as it did for me. (It didn't seem a likely case for an actual CU request, on that basis.) Alai 04:03, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes[52].Voice-of-All 09:01, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Prevention of vandal rollback on static AOL range

I recently tried to vandal rollback on a reversion and I was blocked because of the fact it was an AOL IP page. However, ranges within the following blocks are non-portable, although belonging to AOL:

  • 172.192.0.0/12
  • 172.208.0.0/13
  • 172.216.0.0/16

Perhaps something can be programmed into the rollback script to ignore the AOL status of these pages.

Also, there appears to be a problem with the rollback links on IP contribution pages. Sometimes, they do not work. Ryūlóng 09:30, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Blocked? You mean the talk page did not open?Voice-of-All 19:33, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
IP contribs edit fixed.Voice-of-All 20:19, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
The talk page did not open for the IP range of semi-static IPs, yes. Also, there appears to be a minor problem with [rollback (vandal)] and pages that contain special characters (letters with diacritics) in the titles. Ryūlóng 04:57, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
I can't[53] seem to find this bug. What page was this on? As for the ranges, I've updated that.Voice-of-All 05:09, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
When I reverted a blanking to José Antonio Víctor Díaz Acosta. When the popup opened, and I warned the user using one of the tabs, the link to the article editted was changed to this mojibake: "José Antonio Víctor Díaz Acosta". Ryūlóng 05:42, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Fixed.Voice-of-All 05:50, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
One last thing; can the "report" function be tweaked to identify IP addresses and utilize {{IPvandal}} instead of {{vandal}}? Ryūlóng 07:25, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Not easily, the script is SRC included. AIV report was written by User:Lightdarkness.Voice-of-All 07:33, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your user contrib analysis tool

Hi VOA, I was using your javascript tool for analysing user contributions a little while ago, and I noticed that it has been marking some edits with obvious summaries suggesting major changes as minor. See: [54], [55], [56], [57], [58] and [59]. All these are marked as superficial (in green) when they are clearly major edits. I understand that my definition of 'wikify' wrongly includes big rewrites, but edits marked with 'Major section rewrite' should really be counted as significant or notable. Its not really a priority, and I understand that the admins are very busy with backlogs around now, but if you could take a quick look at the code and maybe add a js equivalent of if(substr("rewrite",$summary[$edit]) $type[$edit]=4; (my limited php understanding of the sort of code possible) it would be good. --Draicone (talk) 09:34, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Added [60].Voice-of-All 20:22, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Oops, I noticed I added one of those regexps twice[61] :D.Voice-of-All 20:25, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
It works fine now and no longer marks these edits as superficial. However, I went through your code and found a problem on this page where a few edits are being counted as reverts, yet the really are not. It seems the problematic edit summaries are:
  • Add banner (created by me a few mins ago), wording about articles that cannot be wikified
  • Add note about activity and relative youth of project
  • Remove CSS id
  • Add note about syncing chart data - might try that right now.
  • Add header, shortcut box, NOTOC.
This seems to be the line causing the issue:
''if (the_sum.search(/(RV|Rv|rV)[Vv]|-[ -]rv|\(rv|\(R[Vv]|RV[ :;\)]|Rv[ :;\)]|rv[ :;\)]/) !=-1 || the_sum.search(/[ \(]rever(t|ted|ting)|rever(t|ted|ting)[ :;\)]|reversion|graffitti| nonsense|vandal ed| vandal|rollback[ |:|\.|\)]| irrelevant| unverified/i) !=-1 || the_sum.search(/(t|ed|e) vandal|[Rr](V|v) |[Ll]inkspam|[Rr]emov(ed|ing)|[Dd]elet(ed|ing) |[Rr]einsta(t|ted)|[Rr]estore(d) |(un|n)ecessary | previous[ |:|\.|\)]| version /) !=-1 || the_sum.search('[Rr]m ') !=-1 || the_sum.search('[Rr]mv') !=-1 || the_sum.search('(Remove[ |:|\.|\)]|remove[ |:|\.|\)]|emoved[ |:|\.|\)]|emoved[ |:|\.|\)]|emove[ |:|\.|\)]|emoved\[\.:\)]|emoved\[\.:\)]|emove\[\.:\)]|seriously[ |:|\.|\)]|WTF[ |:|\.|\)]|\\?\\?|!!)') !=-1 || the_sum.search('[Rr]estore([ |:|\.|\)]|d[ |:|\.|\)]|ing )') !=-1 || the_sum.search('(un|n)ecessary ') !=-1 || the_sum.search(/(Should|should|Is|is) [Nn](ot|OT) |[Ss]hould(nt|n't) |[Cc](an't|annot) /) !=-1 || the_sum.search('/re-added|re-inserted|added back /i') != -1 || the_sum.search(/back again|POINT|no such |speculation\)| such thing| agree with[ |:|\.|\)]| don't[ |:|\.|\)]| do not[ |:|\.|\)]|\(surely[ |:|\.|\)]|\?[ |:|\.|\)]|\?\.|\?\)/) !=-1 || the_sum.search(/no need[ |:|\.|\)]/i) !=-1 || the_sum.search(/Abuse of |admin powers | violat(e|es|ed) | your standards| doesn't| your| you're| yours| you | aren't| isn't/i) != -1 || the_sum.search(/[Tt]roll(s|ing)\)|[Gg]raffitti/) !=-1 || the_sum.search(/linkspam[ |:|\.|\)]|\(If |nonsense[ |:|\.|\)]|vandal ed|ollback[ |:|\.|\)]| vandal| vandals | vandal[ \.\)]/i) !=-1)''
Should phrases like cannot and remove really be included? Most reverts don't include a 'cannot' in the edit summary (in fact, i haven't yet seen one which does) and generally rv's are automated thanks to VP, VF and lupin's tool, where terms like Revert and RV are used - cannot is nowehere to be seen. 'Remove' is, I suppose, a rv style edit comment, but it isn't neccessarily vandalism. Maybe make it a superficial edit? --Draicone (talk) 03:12, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Error in Rapcore

Please first reverted old version arcicle (when there was edit war) and just protected page. Please correct. LUCPOL 09:51, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

I am not sure want you mean?Voice-of-All 20:33, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pseudo-Rollback

I tried to rollback something in a sandbox of mine, and got "Page rollback error: Last editor is Talk, not GeorgeMoney. The user may have already been reverted." . Is that a bug? It should say "error:the only editor is georgemoney". GeorgeMoney (talk) 10:50, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

That occured it there was only 1 edit. Fixed.Voice-of-All 19:31, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Maria Pia of Braganza title

Please reinsert the name "Maria Pia of Braganza" or "Maria Pia of Saxe Coburg Braganza" in the Hilda Toledano page. Maria Pia Saxe Coburg Braganza is the name of this woman that we can see in all her official documents while the name Hilda Toledano is only a paseudonym as a writer. Here in Wikipedia we write about her claims as Duchess of Braganza so the unique real name of this woman is Maria Pia of Saxe Coburg Braganza and not Hilda Toledano. The miguelist supporters(the supporters of Duarte Pio of Braganza) want delete this truth and they want insert the name Hilda Toledano to discredit this pretender. Please read the considerations also of a impartial user of wikipedia about this argument. Thanks


Noel S McFerran in Hilda Toledano discussion page [62] wrote: "I dread to raise this issue again - since last time (before I got involved in editing this article) it was so contentious.

The name "Hilda de Toledano" (note the "de") was used by this lady a

[edit] VoA admin skin code

I'm not an admin, but I'm wondering if you could remove the admin-only features, but leave in helpful stuff like auto-copyvio? I try to keep WP clean as much as possible. I actually tagged an article for copyvio in the past 12 hours. TrackerTV (CW|Castform|Green Valley) 04:11, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FC Barcelona

I would like to make a request for protection on the FC Barcelona article. There is an issue with an anonymous editor constantly re-editing the page which leads to the page exceeding article size. In addition this info is already included at FC Barcelona in Europe. Djln--Djln 19:02, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

  • These anonymous vandals have also began to distort info at the Copa del Rey and Athletic Bilbao sites. Can somebody put a stop to this. Djln --Djln 23:02, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] UserScripts

I've recently started using your javascripts, and I had a little question about adding a helper function. At least I think that's what I'm trying to do :) I want to add the Quick wikify tab from Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Scripts and I don't think I put it in the right place, because it's not working. Here's my monobook, see if you can tell what I've done wrong. Thanks!! Lauren 19:00, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:Hatto

User:Hatto keeps removing my comments from the talk page of the article Masashi Tashiro ([63] and [64], a comment where I explained some of the changes I made to the article. Previous time I asked him why (which provoked no response) and restored the page, but now he did it again. I mentioned it at Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Hatto but that rfc seems dead! No matter that we have a very troublesome user on our hands. I ask you to, if not ban him immediately, at least put some new life into the RfC. Mackan 17:18, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Counter

Hi. Where is your edit counter located? I see you provide info on counts but i can not seem to find an url. thanks. MatthewFenton (talk • contribs) 21:35, 20 August 2006 (UTC)


[edit] RfAs

Hello. In regards to this comment, for future reference please note WP:RFA, specifically:

Who may vote: Any Wikipedian with an account is welcome to vote, except for the candidate.

Thanks. Rockpocket 03:14, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Questions and a problem with admin js tools

Just wanted to let you know I've posted a couple questions as well as a problem I'm having on the talk page for "Useful JS". Just letting you know here cause I figured you might not check there all that often. Thanks. -Goldom ‽‽‽ ⁂ 18:38, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] this is bullshit.

This really is. All i was doing was to stop a paranoid vandal from removing perfectly good, sourced infomation. dposse 05:30, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your bot didn't clean up all vandalism

Greetings. I just wanted to point out that your bot didn't clean up all the problems of vandalism in the Cleopatra article. I think I manually fixed everything. I don't have a clue how bots work, so perhaps this was unavoidable. I just thought I should bring it to your attention. Have a nice day. --207.69.139.12 05:55, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Much obliged

From one Voice to another, thank you for your action regarding my 3RR report on anon 132.241.246.111. VoiceOfReason 07:22, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your admin javascript

Hi Voice of All! I love your admin javascript. I have one question though. Do you think that you can allow users to set their preferences for the different text changes? For example, the script currently changes the word "discussion" to the word "talk" on the tab at the top. Do you think that you can let users pick their own text, and have it default to "talk"? (Like users could put in their monobook talktext = 'Chat' or something and then it would say "chat" at the top.) What do you think? —Mets501 (talk) 13:11, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Also, I keep getting the "You are using a custom admin monobook.js script that will be updated soon. Please add the content of "User:Voice_of_All/Dropdown/monobook.css" to YOURNAME/monobook.css. Thanks." message on all non-article pages, even though I have added the content of that to my css. —Mets501 (talk) 13:19, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
Well, it does not check if you have it :D. I'll have that up for a few days before I switch it over. In the meantime, you should just copy my own monobook.js, since thats what will happen anyway.Voice-of-All 18:42, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
Great! Thanks. (I'd still like preferences though :-)—Mets501 (talk) 19:00, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] False revert

Hey VoA, your bot reverted my edit. This was a bad revert, I've reverted the revert. Hope it's cool :) Computerjoe's talk 18:35, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Fixed. The interlang link encoding was lacking, so it saw them as ????? which threw it off.Voice-of-All 18:41, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clare Nasir article vandalism again

Hello. The moment you lifted the protection on the Clare Nasir article, User:195.93.21.33 came right in immediately and vandalised it just like many times before. Oh well. A shame. Bests. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc 21:15, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Maxx Diesel

Dude, the additions to his filmography are not "vandalism." I wouldn't vandalize the article I created. I think you totaly jumped the gun.

[edit] Bot reverted vandalism back into place

this bot revert was problematic. User:MER-C had correctly removed some nasty spam additions to Blog, and the VoABot put them back with an edit summary accusing MER-C of vandalism. You might want to investigate this case as it doens't seem to align with the description of what the Bot is intended to do. Best, Gwernol 12:26, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

And again. I've blocked the bot for 15 minutes, since this is pretty bad. Gwernol 12:33, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Fixed. The problem was interwiki link characters being parsed as "?". This has happened before, so I just changes the context for excessive use of those.Voice-of-All 20:46, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] request for Protection

please Protect Vermont United States Senate election, 2006. repeated removal of clarifying infomration by openly biased user. See talk page 66.252.255.66 03:42, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Now TV

Looks like somebody started adding all these future channels with no references again. May need to protect it from vandalism again. Thanks. --theorb 04:51, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your admin Javascript

Just pointing out that it doesn't count contributions to Featured Lists. Regards -- Rune Welsh | ταλκ 19:59, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

The results report wording does not say that it does, however I have now added those in too.Voice-of-All 20:11, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Revert

Hi! Thank you so much for trying help me fix my edit summary problem! I've had it for a while and haven't been able to figure it out. I actually am encountering some odd behaviour right now (my contribs is all askew and my edit summary problem hasn't been fixed). What exactly should I remove from my monobook (I'm unfamiliar with the term "GML" and do not know a whole lot about javascripts in general). hoopydinkConas tá tú? 20:27, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] E-mail from NBGPWS (talk · contribs)

I noticed you blocked NBGPWS (talk · contribs) due to his actions at Protest Warrior. He recently sent me an e-mail that leads me to believe that he could continue to engage in some problematic edits once his block expires. Would you like to read it (I'll just forward it)? -- tariqabjotu 20:28, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Go ahead and foward it. Sorry for the delay.Voice-of-All 04:01, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
I have sent it. -- tariqabjotu 05:21, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Faulty script

Hi,

Just saw this edit. I found it odd, and probably a result of a faulty script you might be using. Please look into what happened? Regards, — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 09:42, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

That was me experimenting with cologneblue a while ago. I didn't even notice that.Voice-of-All 09:48, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Admin coaching update

According to my notes I've sent you this already, according to my search of your talk page I haven't... So here it is again, with apologies if you've already received it!

You are receiving this message because you are currently listed as a coach in the 'Active' section of the coaching box.

  • If the coaching has finished please add your trainee to the archived requests section of the archive, and remove the entry from the coaching box.
  • If the coaching is ongoing please continue :) This might serve as a useful reminder to check with your trainee if they have any new questions!
  • If you are ready to be assigned a new trainee, or have any other questions, please let me know on my talk page.

Thank you for helping with admin coaching! Petros471 09:46, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

OK. Do you know if your fellow coach Kirill Lokshin wants another as well? I.e. shall I assign another with you kept as a pair or do you want another coach as well? If it's the latter there might be a delay until another coach becomes free. Petros471 22:41, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sprotection - High School Musical 2

Can you re-protect High School Musical 2? Since you unprotected it it has seen more than 10 vandalisms and non-sense editing by anonymous and new users.--Klaser 16:58, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sprotections on Choudenshi Bioman and Kyouryuu Sentai ZyuRanger

Hello. Right after you unprotected Choudenshi Bioman and Kyouryuu Sentai ZyuRanger, the same vandal returned and began wreaking havoc again. Can you please look into this? Perhaps re-protecting them might work, or maybe a rangeblock for 210.213.*.* is in order. Thank you. jgp TC 02:32, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Now the same vandal has struck Chikyuu Sentai Fiveman and Kousoku Sentai Turboranger after you unprotected them. jgp TC 15:42, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Nixer

Thank you for leaving a clerk note, however you mixed up the suspected sockpuppet with the suspected sockpuppeteer, among some slightly off grammar. Ryūlóng 02:34, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

OK...fixed.Voice-of-All 05:44, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sprotections on Pluto

Thank you. Electrawn 05:15, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for all you do here

eom. Caffeine USA 05:52, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rutgers University

Thanks for unprotecting the article as per my request. Wanna start a betting pool as to when the revert war will heat up again? I give it four days. Should give me enough time, j'espere, to finish my additions to the article. Thanks again, for initially protecting it, and now for unprotecting it. —ExplorerCDT 21:35, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you ... (Image deletion)

for using common sense. — GT 00:21, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Seconded. -- User:RyanFreisling @ 00:23, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. Though for the record, that was a crappy deletion summary, so I changed the wording of the deletion script.Voice-of-All 00:25, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

I have listed these images on DRV. I believe the legal questions should be refered to OFFICE. (Personally, I don't feel there is any legal risk for Wikipedia here, but I am happy to have the issue looked at). Beyond that, we have no specific evidence to dispute the GFDL-self claims, and no policy requiring exceptional proof of GFDL-self claims, so I do not believe such materials should be speedied. Dragons flight 01:53, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

I talked about this to Danny and other admins on IRC. Even he'd rather have them deleted too (though as an OFFICE statement). The admins on IRC agreed that Brad Patrick should look over them. As for the reason, its really US image issues over age/reporting in general (regardless of age) of "sexually explicit" images (which is why Brad will have a look). Its not a typical issue of "no copyright", thats just what the deletion script said, which as I said above, was a "crappy summary".Voice-of-All 02:28, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
This issue may have been better handled by the IfD proccess instead of speedy deleting them. HighInBC 02:18, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
Perhaps. If IfD is needed, then so be it. Though what Brad Patrick says will be the top priority.Voice-of-All 02:30, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA message

My RfA video message
Image:RfA message.ogg

Stephen B Streater 08:40, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DumbBOT

Thanks for your notice on my talk page regarding User:DumbBOT. However, it seems I am unable to find any place where my input is requested. Can you please be more specific? In the request for bot approvals I am the one waiting for a response from the approvals group. (Liberatore, 2006). 10:02, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

I just noticed the header added here[65]. But now that I look more closely, it says "approvals group" not "operator"! I am so used to it being the other way. Sorry.Voice-of-All 10:09, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Alcoholics Anonymous page

The bot is reverting some of my edits on the AA page. this page has been taged for extensive revisions and a rewrite, and this is what I am trying to accomplish. in this task I am deleting entire sections of the article because they are pointless (it is to be noted that this page is much larger than Wikipedia suggests. could you please allow these edits to occur.Coffeepusher 21:08, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ohio State Alumni Page

Thanks for your prompt action on my request to lock the page. Out of curiosity, why did you tag it as a revert war instead of vandalism when one anonymous user continually deletes verified information and other registered users simply return that info to the page? Also, rkevins and myself have tried for nearly two months now to engage this person in some form of rational dialogue--not to mention posting external verification on the talk page for all of the entries with which he has a problem--to no avail. I ask this not because I'm dissatisfied or questioning your judgement but rather am new to wikipedia and hoping to gain a little fuller understanding of the issues at work here. Thanks, --Sam Harmon 21:01, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Typically, when an editor is the problem, and is not reasonable, peopler request that he/she be blocked for disruption (if it has gone on for too long). The only time protection is requested in such cases, is when the user should be banned, but uses IPs that revolve and thus are hard to block.Voice-of-All 21:07, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Now TV

Please protect the Now-TV page again. Various anonymous users have again vandalize it with "anticipated channels" without any references to sources of such information. I have made the deletions, but I am sure that the page will be vandalized again. I don't have administrator rights, so, I cannot protect the page. Thanks in advance for your help. --theorb 07:34, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VoABot

Hi Voice of All, I'd like to write a script in python (pywikipedia), similar to the one VoABot uses, to update the list of protected pages in the Dutchlanguaged wikipedia. Could I perhaps get the code used by VoABot? I'd like to try if I can base the python version on your javascript one. Regards, Erwin85 12:31, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Actually the python robot framework appears to be more stable then javascript, so it would be interesting to see it converted. The only problem is that several non-WP:PP functions are also included in the script, so I'd have to make a separate streamlined version to send to you.Voice-of-All 19:30, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
My script is pretty much ready. So you don't have to make a seperate version. My bot (un)lists articles, adds/removes templates to indicate the page is protected and leaves a message on the moderators talkpage when a page wasn't listed. In case you're interested I could send you the code. --Erwin85 12:07, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
I never bothered to make mine add templates to the page, as that would not work for full protection and often the admin meant to not leave a tag. It does, however, leave messages to admins who protect without using a summary. As for the code, to make it as complete as mine, just be sure that you have the bot XML request the top log event for all pages showing in the protection log (ie "&limit=1") to check to see if protection was the top page action and also to XML request the pages in edit mode to regexp scan for deleted pages and redirects. My bot can properly handle page moves/deletes/restores and what not. You will likely want two delist functions: one that checks the log and one that follows up on all pages on the protected page list (the latter uses more server, but is needed for special cases, hence why you want two).Voice-of-All 17:31, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Pywikipedia allows the bot to use a sysop account, so the bot uses my own account (sysop on nlwiki) to add templates to fully protected pages. It doesn't leave a message when someone doesn't give a summary, but that would be a nice feature. It also doesn't check the top log event using a seperate page. First it gets the entire log, and checks if the last event in the previous check is still in the retrieved log. It then treats protected and unprotected pages in a different variable. It only gets the most recent protection and unprotection events for a page. However when a page is protected and unprotected in the same session it wil appear in both variables. Therefor it compares these variables for duplicates and keeps the most recent (un)protection event. It then gets the pagetexts and using standard pywikipedia functions checks for deleted pages and redirects. Normal pages will be checked for the use of templates (add if protected, remove if unprotected) and redirects and normal pages will be added to the list on wikipedia. However restored pages will still be seen as protected, and moved pages will not be added to the list. How do you check these? Do you check the page's log? And why do you also check the list of protected pages for unprotection events? Could you give an example of a special case for which this is needed? --Erwin85 09:21, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
The first "delist" function for VoABot starts from the protection log, it acts like the "listing" function in how it checks each item's page data and last log item via XML request based on the protection log (off course it only does this for the top occurance of each item on the protection log). This ensures that deleted, salted, moved, and "revision deleted" (delete and selective restore) pages are handled right from the log. Now, the problem is that the delete and move logs are huge and inneffecient to check, so if a page was protected 5 days ago and is no longer in the protection log, there is no way to know that it was deleted/"rev deleted"/moved/salted/redirected. Thats is why you need a "follow up" delist function that iterates through WP:PP and for each page, XML requests the top log item and the page data. This however, for en at least, still uses a good deal of server use, so its best to have this run only a few times a day, and let the other delist function (faster, yet not as complete), which works most of the time, run more often. Technically, only a "follow up" function is needed to delist, but its only kept for speed/accuracy balance.Voice-of-All 20:51, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm still not sure what to do with the top log event. I'd think that you'd have to check the page's log and all item on it which are more recent than the most recent protection event. In example a page that has been protected and moved is still protected and it's new destination is also protected. In this case the top log event doesn't have to be the protection for the page to be protected, or am I missing something? --Erwin85 12:41, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
I just tried it and the destionation will be protected, but the source won't after a page move. So I guess the page's log should be checked to see if it's a restored page or if the page has been moved. In either cases it's not protected. But the destination of the move should be checked in the same way as items from the protection log. Do you agree? --Erwin85 14:05, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

I've changed my script a bit to make it more efficient and it now checks for blank summaries, moved pages and restored pages.

  1. Get the protection log
  2. Add the first occurence of an article to a protection or unprotection variable
  3. Compare these variables to the last protection event of the previous check. If a page has been checked before, remove if from the variables.
  4. Check the protected pages:
    1. Deleted? Continue (to next article).
    2. Redirect? Don't check for templates.
    3. Check if the page has been moved or restored using page log as explained above. Restored? Continue.
    4. Check if the page has the templates.
    5. Check if the page is listed.
    6. Sent comments to admins
      • Not listed and admin not on blacklist (blacklist is admins who don't want to receive these messages)
      • Not listed and no summary given (regardless of blacklist)
  5. Check the moved pages
    1. The same as for protected pages, but don't check page log and don't send comments.
  6. Check the unprotected pages
    1. Deleted? Continue.
    2. Redirect? Don't check templates.
    3. Check if the page doesn't have templates.
    4. Check if the page isn't listed.

I'll also make it check the list of protected pages on the wiki, but this will only be done when run with an argument like "protectedpages.py -checklist". --Erwin85 16:06, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

OK, the above comment did reveal a bug in VoABot. Moved pages would be renamed on the list to the target on he 1st sweep, and then accidently delisted on the second. Aside from moves, if the top action is NOT protection, then it is not protected. Therefore I whipped up a hack so that VoABot will ignore moved pages (when the target page is what is listed) for the "follow-up" delist/rename function. The faster, non-page specific protection log based delist function would pick it up since it would have to be specifically unprotected, which would therefore show in the log. The hack is done by using the fact that the bot temporarily turns all templates for articles into "{{article|x}}". I made it not do that for "la" templates (which don't get used there, only RfPP), so it skips those, and when moved pages are listed with the target name, or when pages that got moved are renamed on the list by the "follow-up" function, they are set to use the "la" template. This way, the "follow-up" function will bypass checking them. This means that two delist function are not just good for server use, but for such exceptional cases, actually necessary.Voice-of-All 20:10, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
I've done something similar. The follow-up function changes all items to <article>X</article> except if they are moved. A moved page is listed like {{article|X}}, moved from a protected page, summary etc. instead of simply {{article|X}} summary etc..
My script is now finished, however it is a bit different then the version explained above. It doesn't check the page log anymore, with the exception of page moves. Instead of using the page log to check if a page is still protected it checks all pages, from the protection log as well as the follow-up function, using the Special:Export page. It uses a throttle function, to make it sleep awhile, from pywikipedia so it'll take about 5 to 10 seconds for a page's restrictions to be checked. A full check of the online list took about 5 minutes for approximately 90 listed pages. --Erwin85 16:52, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Paleoconservatism

I identified content in this article as unsourced over a week ago. Now, I've deleted the unsourced content. Another user keeps restoring the unsourced content and has removed my tags. I've cut and paste the relevant parts of Wiki policy (both NOR and Verifiability) to the discussion page and he's ignoring it. I posted a request at the Mediation cabal for assistance. His first post on that page (the page for the Mediation cabal account) explained his position and he seemed to be okay with using this third party mediator in that first post. I then posted explaining my side. His second post on that page stated that he had no faith in the Mediation cabal. I'm at a loss as to what to do. Some help would be appreciated. -Psychohistorian 14:27, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

I have no clue who you are, but you seem to be some sort of uber-geek. Psychohistorian is obsessed with verification and wants cites on virtually every proper noun. There are 100+ citations -- and one endorsement from a specialist -- on this article as of now. The George W. Bush page, the most disputed page here, only has 54 cites. The accuser refuses serious discussion, other than to demand MORE citations. This is silly. NOWHERE on Wikipedia is the extent of citations he demands enforced. Please block this troll for disruption, incivility, bad faith and vandalism. Yakuman 23:01, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
VoA, I wasn't looking to discuss this issue in your talk page. I know I wouldn't much appreciate it if two people I didn't know started having an extended arguement in my talk page. I'm hoping we can discuss it in the article's talk page. Thanks for any help you can provide. -Psychohistorian 00:46, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Protection of Regional Municipality of Peel, Ontario

As one side in the edit war has been indefinitely blocked, I think it's safe to say that the disputes have been resolved. Could you unprotect this page? └ OzLawyer / talk ┐ 15:13, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Teke's RfA thanks

Thank you for your support of my RfA, which has passed with a final tally of 76/1/1. With this overwhelming show of support and approval I am honored to serve Wikipedia in the task charged to me and as outlined in my nomination. Happy editing to you! Teke (talk) 17:14, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Insult

I inform you administrator about insult against me[66] and other insults in the same discussion!--PIO 20:35, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My RfA

Thanks!
Image:AMule.png

Thank you very much for your comments on my recent Request for Adminship. The request was ultimately unsuccessful - which wasn't entirely surprising - and so I'll be taking special care to address your concerns before running again. I guess I've been quite the deletionist, but I'll be working on that. :)

If you have any feedback for me, please don't hesitate to leave it at my talk page. Thanks!

-- RandyWang (chat/patch) 14:14, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rothshield

User:Whozat17 has sent me a message claiming himself to be the author of the book and the website in question. I have advised him what to do to better confirm his authorship per WP:CP, but I am unsure if he is really who he say he is. I cannot email him through Wikipedia and he has no activity here since 21 August 2006. I have added {{db-copyvio}} to the article in question per your advice.

As I have to prepare for the scheduled confirmation vote for my adminship at English Wikisource in September 2006, please do not nominate me for adminship here until my annual vote of confidence there has finished, though I think that I should be able to pass. After all, thank you very much for your very useful admin coaching.--Jusjih 16:45, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

This is to let you know that I have passed the scheduled confirmation vote for my adminship at English Wikisource, so I can pay more attention here before I run for adminship here.--Jusjih 17:21, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A bug in the last tab

I think the last tab (for viewing the most recent edit to the page) is your work. If not, I'm sorry. In any case, look at Image:Hand_of_Nod_(C&CTS).jpg The last tab is html escaping the ampersand into &. Thus breaking the last tab. The image was tagged by me as orphaned fair use and for various reasons I doubt it'll be put back into an article, so you'll want to do your checking before its deleted in about a week. Kevin_b_er 01:16, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA thanks

Thank you very much for participating in my RFA, which closed successfully today with a result of (62/18/3). I will go very carefully at first, trying to make sure I don't mess up too badly using the tools, and will begin by re-reading all the high-quality feedback I received during the process, not least from those who opposed me. Any further advice/guidance will be gratefully accepted. I hope I will live up to your trust! Guinnog 14:04, 30 August 2006 (UTC)}

[edit] User:VoA monobook pop ups code

I recently noticed that my computer does not allow me to view the "actions" bar on a pop up. I did not know what the actions button did until I noticed a screenshot on the Wikipedia page.

I am unsure whether it is the codes on the User:VoA monobook which cause me to not see this or whether it is my computer itself. Any information which can help me see this would be very helpful, thank you. - Erebus555 19:51, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

I am not sure, User:Lupin is the author of popups.Voice-of-All 19:59, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
OK, I will ask Lupin. Thanks. - Erebus555 20:00, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Need help at an RFCU

I've seen that you have, in the past, left clerk notes at various checkuser cases, and would like some sort of input of yours at Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Ryulong which was started up by a user who I had an edit conflict in the past, and he just appears to want to get me blocked for whatever he can. Cactus.man and I have left whatever information we could at the RFCU to state why it should not be run, and now we need a third-party input to see what has to be done about Nixer, as he feels that he has to make a point concerning the fact that I had broken WP:3RR, but it was decided that any sort of block would be punitive after three hours of no one touching the article. The filer of the RFCU, Nixer (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log · rfcu), has been blocked multiple times in the past, tacking up more than 900 (according to my calculations 918¼) hours of blocks, including one proven sockpuppet. Nixer has exhausted more than one editors patience in his year long membership of Wikipedia, with various violations against him. As I said, Cactus.man and I need someone who has not been involved to look into this.

Thank you. Ryūlóng 22:59, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much for leaving the "Not for phishing". I believe I will make a note of this user's actions at WP:ANI and see what should be done. Ryūlóng 23:36, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 205.208.227.27 = Open Proxy?

Since I noticed you blocked 205.208.227.46 and .49 as open proxies, I think you might also want to check 205.208.227.27 as well, since that is another IP that was previously used by the same banned user as .46 and .49. 23:35, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please re-Semi-protect the Dog article

G'day Voice of All.

Please reinstate the semi-protection of the Dog article. In the less than 3 hours since you deemed it unnecessary, no less than 6 reverts have been necessary. I -- we Wiki users -- understand that Wiki should be open and gnu-ish. However, this does not extend to casual vandalism, and the Dog article takes more than its fair share. There is a clear case for permanent semi-protection, since the damage done by these vandals reflects badly on Wikipedia's credibility and child safety.

Please reply on this page. Gordon | Talk, 31 August 2006 @03:34 UTC

[edit] Mistakes at WP:OP

You marked User:59.11.45.141, User:61.39.35.69, and User:59.29.252.230 as open proxies and as blocked, but you did not block them indefinitely. Could you please fix this? Thanks. Jesse Viviano 04:17, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

The block did not go through as someone already blocked, so I assumed that someone already did that. I'll look into it.Voice-of-All 04:21, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tom Atkins (actor) vandal is at it again

The Tom Atkins (actor) article may need to be locked down again. The vandal who kept inserting unsourced claims about Tom Atkins's homosexuality about two months ago is back. He alternates between vandalizing the John Wayne article and the Atkins article. Also, he is vandalizing my talk page and the talk page of Batman2005,

Sullenspice 13:46, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism revert

Hi there! I'm curious about what caused this revert—the edit being reverted does not look like vandalism at all. Any ideas?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 17:31, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Entry on Muhammad

Can't you see that this entry needs permanent (semi-)protection?! Your hope is in vain! The bullshitters and saboteurs say thanx to you. Editorius

[edit] Bot

Sorry this was left hanging so long, I've closed out Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/VoABot II as approved. — xaosflux Talk 01:42, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Besides you have been virtually alone in dealing with all of those requests.Voice-of-All 02:52, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Council on American-Islamic Relations

<Sigh!> Looks like the revert war has resumed ... the material was moved to Criticism of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, but one die-hard insists on restoring it ... the history will show it's been back-and-forth several times since the protection was lifted, and it's almost time for a 3RR Time Out. Your help, by protecting it again, would be appreciated. (For personal reasons, I refuse to get directly involved.) --Dennette 05:05, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RFPP

To Voice of All for his exceptional efforts at WP:RFPP. We appreciate the hard work -- Samir धर्म 06:09, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
To Voice of All for his exceptional efforts at WP:RFPP. We appreciate the hard work -- Samir धर्म 06:09, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Well deserved. Please continue the good work -- Samir धर्म 06:09, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
Awww...thanks :-).Voice-of-All 06:12, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your JS?

I think I'm using your JS. Its changed recently (last 2 weeks)... pop-ups are back (I hate them... :-) and the tabs for 3RR blocking seem to be gone... is the original still available? William M. Connolley 10:22, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit summary stats

Hi there. I've recently been hanging out at WP:RFA, and I like the edits summary stats you produce. Is there a way I can create a similar summary for myself, so I can look for ways to improve/change my editing habits? Thanks. Carcharoth 10:55, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi : )
I noticed the summary stats that you produced for Carcharoth.
Would you please do the same for me, here? : )
- Jc37 00:43, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
Done.Voice-of-All 01:06, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
First, thank you : )
Second, how does it determine some of the info? FOr example: "Notable article edits (creation/expansion/major rewrites/sourcing)"? I ask because I've completely re-written, redesigned, ReOrged several pages. Thanks again for your help : ) - Jc37 01:26, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
Ooh. It's getting popular! :-) Thanks for dropping the summary off on my talk page. Can I ask how it is generated? It seems to reflect pretty accurately certain "deficiencies" in my editing habits, for which I am grateful. Thanks again. Carcharoth 00:53, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion script

The "db (reason)" tab from the RC Patrol script is missing in action. There are no errors on Firefox's javascript console and nothing else seems to have changed. Could you look into this please? MER-C 11:00, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hans Henning Atrott

Hello, you unprotected the page, hoping that the protection would not longer be necessary. Now the references had been removed and some unreferenced statements have been added by the IP, which is permanently insulting all other contributors to that Article. --Seewolf 11:41, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Greetings

In case you didn't receive my e-mail, please e-mail me at radiokirk(at)fastmail(dot)fm. Thanks. :) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 20:11, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

I have a question about a rollback function that I didn't want to pose within the namespace. Are you able to e-mail me? RadioKirk (u|t|c) 17:04, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: bot for WP:CHU

Hi VoA. Sorry for the delay in answering your post. It's weird, I don't think that I got the "big yellow banner" for your first post, since I've logged on after you left it. I just got it for your second one, and that's when I first saw your original message. Sorry about that.
It would be interesting to have a bot do the archiving. The only thing, as it has been mentioned before, is that it would need to be able to distinguish pending requests from the fulfilled/denied ones. Just recently, a user reposted a request that EssjayBotII had archived when it reached the 48th hour on the page, even though the request had not yet been addressed. As long as we can somehow make that happen, an archiving bot for WP:CHU would be great. Cheers, Redux 03:12, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

See User:VoABot. RFPP requests are even faster :).Voice-of-All 03:26, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
Looks good to me. Traffic is increasing rapidly on WP:CHU, and we often have a long list of addressed requests that can be archived. One detail though: whenever I see to the requests, I do it by chronological order (first come, first served), but sometimes other Bureaucrats go back and forth through the requests. I suppose your bot is equipped to handle this, since requests on RFPP are not normally, or necessarily, answered in chronological order, so just making sure. Redux 04:11, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The CSD tab

I don't know if you programmed it into the javascript, but it gets borked when ampersands are in the article's title. I could not use it on Flying aces, billy & wayne, as it stopped right before the ampersand. Ryūlóng 04:13, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Admin coaching

BusterD is your next trainee, with Shell Kinney as your fellow coach. As always let me know if you have any questions or need help with the coaching etc. Petros471 13:52, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Alright.Voice-of-All 18:02, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Winhunter's RfA thanks

Hi Voice_of_All, thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which was closed as successful today with a finaly tally of (56/0/3). I will be very careful at first to avoid any mistakes. Please feel free to leave a message in my talk page if you have any comments/suggestions about me in the future. Once again, thank you! --WinHunter (talk) 09:04, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] JPD's RfA

Thanks, Voice of All, for your sensible questions and support at my RfA, which finished with a tally of 94/1/0. I hope I live up to the confidence you have shown in me in my activities as an administrator. JPD (talk) 15:58, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Non-admin monobook

Would it be possible to be able to configure the voa monobook for peoples' needs like the popups? For example if someone doesn't want one of the tools or wants to change it a little, it would be nice to have some config, like if I wanted to remove, for example, the "since" and "csd" tabs etc.. or wanted to change the rollback summary and those things. Would this be practical or you would have to go into each script and add config and then make default settings and do all of these things which would be easier just to not add this? GeorgeMoney (talk) 04:57, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia talk:Bots/Requests for approval

Please see my responce Betacommand 13:22, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blocking Texas Instruments ip ranges

reverted back from 8/20 You blocked our Texas Instruments proxy IP ranges as if we vandels. I think there must be a mistake. All traffic from TI will come from 192.91.75.0-128. Several tens of thousands of employees behind those proxies. Specific IPs are for specific buildings. For example, 192.91.75.30 is educational/productivity R&D. Blocking one address knocks out a several thousand people from editting.--ZacBowling 15:52, 17 August 2006 (UTC)--ZacBowling 15:52, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Why did you remove this? you never anwsered my question or replied back here or on my talk page. I never got a response... There is a lot of reasons why people inside TI would want to stay anonymous if they edit for a number of reasons. TI makes a lot of products. --ZacBowling 18:06, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Michael Lucas

You protected this page instead of the semi-protection that was asked for. The only problematic edits are coming from users with no accounts who refuse to follow the guidelines that are documented on the article's talk page. No action was taken for 8 hours; now the page has references to outside sources that are completely inappropriate for inclusion in Wikipedia, as has been discussed on the article talk page. An anonymous user also created a vanity article to cross-reference with this one. Please change the protection to semi-protection as was requested. These are not revert wars; these are anonymous users ignoring Requests for Comments and quoted Wikipedia policy; there is no recourse other than protection to keep them from editing. If they had user accounts, the progressive steps to resolve differences could be implemented, that is not possible with users from shared AOL IPs.—Chidom talk  06:33, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 0.999

I thought the edit war had stopped about 24 hours ago in that article, before you protected it. I could be wrong, though. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 07:18, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cranbourne, Victoria

It looks like Pnatt is back at work again with these edits [67] not long after you unprotected the page. I think it needs protecting again. Also can you add the Pnatt tag to User:Myspaceaddictaust page if you agree its him, I am not sure (as a semi-newbie) if I'm supposed to do it. Ta. Teiresias84 14:50, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

I had that suspicious, but wanted to try unprotection since it had been a while, and I can always re-lock.Voice-of-All 17:01, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Israel page unprotected

I've been watching the Israel page, and since it's been unprotected, it's already been vandalized at least a dozen times, by my count (all within the space of 24 hours). I am not an admin, so I can't put the protection back on, but I thought would mention something to you, because it really seems to need it. (btw, I am a relatively new user, and I don't know if this comment should be here or on the Israel discussion page). Thanks. Patstuart 17:39, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] sysop

assume good faith, dude, it wasnt a joke, thats like well mean, i feel really dumb now Qrc2006 19:20, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

i mean i like know how to edit wikipedia, click on the links i provided to the articles ive done, i take it seriously like for realls yo. i just didnt know how to do the whole admin application thingymambober like so perfectly cuz i dude had never done it before. Qrc2006 19:22, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

i WAS NOT and AM NOT joking dude! please take me seriously, yes i thought i would be taken seriously, i took the time to write it out, i was unaware i missed anything besides putting it in the right place, however firefox felt pity i guess and moved it inot the right place. What did i do that was so damn wrong yo? I was just trying to participate and since I have been for a while and ran into it, why not apply to be an admin. I am being serious, i tried to IM you but youre no signed on. If you still don't believe be IM me eastbayguy17 on aim

Qrc2006 19:36, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

p.s. i do happen to have adhd and dislexia, but yeah
You should have put that on your RfA. I do apologize for suggesting that it was a "joke" RfA, as we do actually get though fairly often here. There is no way for me to know whether entrophy in writing is due to a legitimate condition or someone just being a silly sausage unless they let me know. The vast majority of people here do not have any special restrictions, and as I said, people do add nominations that are not serious, so its almost always the case that when people have entrophy in their writing, then it is usually just joking or worse, trolling. That its not the case here, but you cannot expect everyone to already know that you have ADHD or Dyslexia.Voice-of-All 19:53, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your Help

Hi, I saw you close the Striver RFA. To be honest I don't know what else there is left to do. As you can see from that RFA there is what appears to me to be a community of users exhausted with having to deal with this user's contributions. He has already had two RFCs, I know a few of the articles he has participated strongly in have resulted in mediation, but he just refuses to follow consensus or Wikipedia policy. If I go to AN/I when he does something it will just get ignored or he will be given a slap on the wrist warning, if I try and stop his POV pushing in articles he just waits me out reverting every other day back to his verisons regardless of the fact that there is usually a consensus against his versions. I don't know what else to do. I think AbrCom seems now to be the only option left, but to be quite honest I am not very experienced with that process.--Jersey Devil 20:12, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Alpha Phi Alpha

The individual who was vandalizing the page under an AOL ID has created an ID "NinjaNubian" and is now able to update and has already begun vandalizing by changing other editors input. Can you leave a msg on this users talk page that vandalism will not be tolerated and that he must respect previous work and not contribute material that is personal knowledge? Ccson 02:55, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia talk:Bots/Requests for approval#Betacommand

Please see my new comment Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 15:41, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfB

I'm surprised no one has mentioned anything to you, but please don't close a non snowball RfA/RfB. That was one of the few grey area RfB's in over two years, though it was also well below the 90% that I think people are expecting now for RfB given the lack of need for new bcrats. I was evaluating it, but due to commenting in it I didn't feel it was best for me to close it myself. I think none of the bureaucrats felt comfortable calling it as a consensus to promote, so it was just waiting for another bcrat to close it. That's a perfectly valid approach to give us time to evalutate close ones. An RfA/RfB is open until a bureaucrat decides to close it, and I thought I've even seen comments from you noting that, so I was quite confused when I saw you closed it to further votes. In any case, thanks for closing the other snowball ones you did and for watching the process. - Taxman Talk 16:34, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

I hope you weren't offended by my comments on WT:RFA concerning this close. My hope was to remind all the potential closers to tread carefully, and new people decide to jump in on the job of making early closes all the time. You do a lot of good stuff keeping the newly submitted RfAs running smoothly, and I want to thank you for that work. I remember that on my RfA your neutral vote was based on a remembrance of impoliteness, I hope I have not crossed that line here. Cheers :), NoSeptember 13:16, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA

Hi Voice of All,
Thanks for your interest in my RfA:

An overview of the areas this user focuses on seems to be lacking. Deletion pages seems to be the only place of project involvement. Mainly minor articles edits too. I'd rather the user have more experience...

I didn't realise my involvement with Wikipedia might seem so tenuous... Would it help if I responded to your observations on the RfA page by stating that I've deliberately limited myself to certain areas – for the sake of time management – namely some article initiation, some article revision, much article/topic area development (I'd hoped the userspace pages linked from /To do would suffice to indicate), one particular area of structural debate and decision-making (WP:CfD) and, from time to time, WP:RM...?  (Might minor edits be acceptable as part of article development and/or "wikignoming"/"wikifairying"...?)
Thanks in advance for your advice!  Yours, David Kernow 22:56, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I've moved my admin coaching chat to the appropriate location

User:BusterD/Admin coaching. I'm a bit confused about these first steps. If you could give me some hints I'll make every effort to learn. BusterD 00:10, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you for looking into my request at AN/I

Hi VoA. Thank you for taking the time to look into the problematic accounts I listed. Cheers, Redux 02:51, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:BAG

Welcome to the Bot Approval Group. Its gonna be nice having some help in there! If you like userpage meta icons, feel free to copy or use mine User:Xaosflux/BAG. See ya around! — xaosflux Talk 01:57, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] National Security Council (Turkey)

Hey,

You unprotected recently National Security Council (Turkey). Unfortunately the problems, with anon useres removing content, seems to start over. Maybe you would consider expanding the semi-protection for a little longer. Bertilvidet 17:51, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Task X

Thanks for letting me know. Rich Farmbrough, 19:06 10 September 2006 (GMT).

[edit] #s for PP list?

Please change your bot to use #s instead of *s at Wikipedia:List of protected pages, as per Wikipedia talk:List of protected pages#total No of Protected pages. Ta. -- Jeandré, 2006-09-10t19:23z

[edit] Approved bots

no problem will do thanks for the advice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Betacommand (talk • contribs)

[edit] protection request; Eric Lerner

I would like to request that the wikipedia page on me, Eric Lerner, be protected again. Once it was unprotected, the same exact changes that led to the protection were reverted. The changes made are false and injure my reputation. This is exactly what is not supposed to be allowed in biographical entries. I request that it be protected in the same version that was protected before.

[edit] Proof that 0.999... equals 1

Hi, you turned down my unprotection request for Proof that 0.999... equals 1, and I don't understand what exactly you meant by "too soon". When would it be appropriate to unprotect the article, or in my case, to re-request it? (It's coming up on 5 days now.) Do we have a guideline for this question somewhere? Melchoir 16:44, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

...hello? I'll just nominate it again, I guess. Melchoir 02:05, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Javascript

Hi, Voice of All. You're big on this js stuff, so I thought you could solve this problem. Essentially, I tried to add some javascript to my monobook, but it broke everything for some reason [68]. I reverted back to the previous revision [69], but everything was still broke even though the revision it was reverted to wasn't broke. The diff [70], says they're the same, and the old ID of the current revision says they're the same, but the actual current revision is messed up. I've tried clearing my cache and restarting Firefox, but that hasn't helped. Thanks. -- Steel 17:21, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Ok, all is working now, false alarm. Dunno why the monobook has that weird appearance though. -- Steel 17:25, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The link copy pasted here is about all news of Pankaj Trivedi killed by Swadhyay Pariwar.

http://swadhyay-pariwar.blogspot.com/


I am copy pasting a blog which has media articles and pictures regarding murder of Pankaj Trivedi. All the media articles are in Gujarati - a language of State of Gujarat, India and you may not be able to see the fonts or understand them. The pictures showing fat lady in Saree is Jayshree Talwalkar. She is projected as God Mother. The pictures do contain snap of Pankaj Trivedi. The murderers. Lady with folded hand is a snap of funeral time. The Sadhu in orange cap and clothes is Swami Sachchidandji who protested against police in-action. The old man is Pandurang Shashtri Athavale. In initial two pictures and in the end you can see Jayshree Talwalkar and behind her is Bharat Bhat (in circle) who is now arrested and have confessed ploting of the murder of Pankaj Trivedi. He is one from the closest circle of Jayshree Talwalkar. Picture of Pankaj Trivedi follows the funeral pictures. The bare chested person in funeral snap is Pankaj Trivedi's son Himanshu.


Swadhyayee 17:33, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cool (song)

Could you please unprotect the page now? All issues have been resolved on the talk page. 64.231.153.78 21:01, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

You've been requested and I'd appreciate it if you unprotected the page since you were the first initiator. 64.231.152.103 19:47, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit Summary

Could you please provide me with another edit summary on My Statistics Talk Page. Thank you. Nobleeagle (Talk) 23:51, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Praise

About time somebody programmed their anti-vandal bot to tackle specific types of vandalism!--Andeh 16:50, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Will you pl. see the India Today article?

Will you pl. see the copy-pasted article of India Today on talk pages of Swadhyay Parivar along with my comments?

Swadhyayee 12:51, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] About time

About time somebody modified their bot to tackle specific vandalism!--Andeh 16:47, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I need a favor

Hi VoA; I need a favor. Terryeo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · block user · block log) needs to be blocked for 4 days for violating his Arbcom ban against editing Scientology-related articles, and the ban logged at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Terryeo#Final decision. This is the result of an accusation at Arbcom enforcement, a checkuser request that was withdrawn when I politely confronted Terryeo and he admitted it on his talk page. There was consensus at ANI that 4 days was appropriate but no one has stepped up to impose the block, and the discussion at WP:AE is drifting farther and farther away from the main point and needs to be over. Much appreciated in advance. Thatcher131 17:44, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

I'd need a diff and a link to the confession. There is too much to wade through down there.Voice-of-All 19:49, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
My post laying out the evidence [71]
His admission. [72]
ANI thread in which a 4 day block is proposed Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive135#Arbitration enforcement needed.
Thanks. Thatcher131 20:09, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
OK, I've blocked the IP for 1 day.Voice-of-All 20:18, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, but frankly the block should have been longer. The offence was an egregious one, repeated multiple times over a three-week period, denied by the user in question and finally admitted to after a a checkuser request was submitted. A 24 hour block is simply not appropriate in such a case. There was general agreement in the discussion on AN/I (including among uninvolved editors) that four days would be appropriate, the Arbitration Committee having authorised blocks of up to five days for such violations in this particular case. -- ChrisO 21:15, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tom Atkins (actor) troll again

I've just reverted the usual troll again. He may start another editing war.

Thanks,

Sullenspice 03:56, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the improved process in promotion. :) It makes it really fast. But I noticed one thing: the makesysop button is missing. =Nichalp «Talk»= 12:21, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Sagabot

I've added what I think is a suitable description to the bot's userpage. Will redirecting the talk page still mean if I receive messages on my main account, the bot account will think it has new messages? I'm not sure I am able to use AWB without appearing on the bot list, which someone said they would add me to when the bot got flagged. --Sagaciousuk (talk) 06:36, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

I've made several small runs with AWB just now, see here. Hope that's enough for you to see, if not let me know :) --Sagaciousuk (talk) 23:36, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Messhermit edit warring at Alberto Fujimori while on probation

Hi, Messhermit has been edit waring at the Alberto Fujimori article, while on probation. Accordingly, could I request that he is no longer allowed to edit this article? Thanks, Addhoc 13:53, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I'll repost at WP:AE, thanks for protecting the page. Addhoc 11:07, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ngo Dinh Thuc

Please re-protect Ngo Dinh Thuc. The page is being vandalized once again. Please protect ad-perpetuum, in eternity. Members can register and edit. Non-registered users wanting to contribute can register and edit. But I do not want this article to be spoilt because of two vandalists acting cooperatingly.Please reprotect.Smith2006 09:50, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Konstable's RfA thanks

Hi Voice of All, thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which was closed as successful last Wednesday with a unanimous support of (47/0/0). I will do my best to help keep Wikipedia clean, green and vandal free. Once again, thank you! --Konstable 14:40, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ban/Unban

Thanks for correcting this, but can you please point out which edit on which article you felt was disruptive in the first place, even though it was before the injunction, I would like to know exactly which action prompted it in the first place. Laughing Man 15:17, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

I still would like to know what prompted the ban. Thank you. Laughing Man 01:52, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Involvement in the Kosovo edit war. I was scanning the history about 10 pages and noticed your pecular username as one of the users in the edit conflict. Your userpage, coupled with your name, resembled that of a possible troll. All that along with the comment here[73] gave the impression of a yet another problem user (we already hade several socks confirmed per CU). I then noticed that the timestamp of the ArbCom warning was just a day before, so I went back to check the edit dates of the users. After looking more closely at your other edits, I realized that you were likely not simply a likely troll and that the edits were too old, so I unblocked since any established user deserves adaquate warning first. Hope that helps, and sorry for the inconvenience.Voice-of-All 02:36, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
Well thanks for explaination but quite frankly you were far to rash as you had no evidence whatsoever, just your feeling of a 'possible' troll/sockpuppet does not reflect your rationale at the time which an arbcom injuction violation for disruptive edits. The result of your actions is that I now have an unjust block/explaination in my block blog. Laughing Man 03:06, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
If you want to avoid such in the future, I'd strongly suggest changing your userpage (perhaps even your name), as when you end up in serious, unusual, edit conflicts like this, it makes you stand out, much more strongly than you seem to think. Also, questioning Fred on such a particularly minor edit looked like clear wiki-lawyering. If you really want the block log to void the older block, I suppose I could block you again for 1 second to make a null comment.Voice-of-All 03:15, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
If you can clarify that it was mistake, then go ahead. Thanks Laughing Man 06:08, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
I appreciate that you followed through to the end on this one, so thanks for realizing the situation and coming up with a creative way to remedy it. Laughing Man 17:26, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] changing category names

Some Wikipedian categories are changing names, and these aren't easy to handle. Can you change these:

Thanks!--Mike Selinker 15:23, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your Poetry

I just have to say I love your poems To my Love and I Miss You. Do you write music as well? ;) —  $PЯINGεrαgђ  20:42, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

That reminds me, I do need to get that music back up. Though the two melodies are by Debussy, just modified into symphonic form.Voice-of-All 20:02, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hey

How are you? I noticed something that I thought I should report to you. User:Ilir pz was notified of the Temporary injunction in the Kosovo arbitration at 18:00, 15 September 2006 [74], but Ilir made a disruptive edit here and claimed that the capital of Kosovo is not in Serbia. Could you do something about it? All the best, --Serb talk 04:32, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

OK, I gave the user a temporary block.Voice-of-All 04:19, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Admin js

Sorry to bug you. Anyway, this admin js is cool, but is there a way to get only the extra links for the navigation and toolbox bars, and the "check all revisions" for Special:Undelete?

[edit] Clarification

Hello! I left a message to an administrator about the recent RFCU opened by User:Stick to the Facts that I think you should read. Regards.UberCryxic 01:42, 20 September 2006 (UTC)


UberCryxic has been engaging in massive forum shopping by contacting admins directly. If you would like to see the controversy at hand please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Poison_sf. Please help keep wikipedia objective by discouraging UberCryxic from contacting admins directly. Thank you, Stick to the Facts 08:06, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] JS Bach unprotect

Hi, we need it back again. Four attacks on 18 Sept, one a day on average. It's very tedious, and the attacks are often of a sexual nature. I think most of the regulars would like it to be a permanent semi. Tony 16:14, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] September Esperanza Newsletter

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What's New?
September elections are upon us! Anyone wishing to be a part of the Advisory Council may list themselves as a candidate from 18 September until 24 September, with the voting taking place from 25 September to 30 September. Those who wish to help with the election staff should also list themselves!
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[edit] Minor JS fix

There's a slight problem if I warn a user who vandalizes, say, a category or image page. A colon appears to be necessary (I had to revert a blanking at Category:Disambiguation today). Ryūlóng 21:10, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Fixed[75].Voice-of-All 21:21, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding User:Voice of All/Poems

Hey there. I just wanted to let you know that the links to the audio for your poems don't work (I got some 404 error). Nice poems, by the way. --Nishkid64 23:41, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] My Request for Bot Approval

By "tell me when you get it to run of Special:Uncategorizedpages" did you mean to put it on the page, or your talk? I did get it to use the Uncategorizedpages --SgeoTC 01:38, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and sorry for asking such a stupid question --SgeoTC 01:40, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] edit statistics

Hi Voice of All,

I see you posting interesting statistics in RfA's (e.g. here) and I would be interested in the contribution data for myself. Could you provide me with that? — mark ✎ 06:42, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! — mark ✎ 09:57, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hilda Toledano

Within three hours of your removing the semi-protection on this page an anonymous editor made the same kind of edit which initiated the original need for semi-protection. There is every reason to believe that this anonymous editor is a sock-puppet for a banned user. Please restore semi-protection to avoid the current revert war. Thanks. Noel S McFerran 16:25, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rejected semi-protection for The Radio Racket.

Re [76]. I'll be offline during October, so please watchlist it and rvv. -- Jeandré, 2006-09-23t17:44z

[edit] Your edits

Hi Voice of All. Why don't you use a test wiki for testing with the monobook js? http://wiki.xyrael.net is a good place for that. I can make you a sysop there if you'd like to test stuff there. —Mets501 (talk) 02:24, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Or for that matter, you could just try in your own personal js. :) —Mets501 (talk) 02:31, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, but I just fixed the bug. I was trying to get the "main page" tab to show for all views of the main page (hist/diff/editing) but I was having trouble fitting that into the rigid subroutines written in.Voice-of-All 02:32, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
No problem! All good now :-) —Mets501 (talk) 02:39, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] USAA

  • Hey, thought you might take a second look at your removal of protection from USAA. The sockpuppets of Robert Koenig are quick to insert non-encyclopedic data into the article, in order to bolster legal claims he has against the organization. This sockpuppet master, in the past, has even gone so far as to attempt to erase archived discussions, to prevent new reviewers from seeing what previous editors have uncovered about his motivations. As an example of his drive, he's made numerous changes that had to be reverted by watchful editors since you removed protection. (the 3R rule has come close to being a problem with editors, so that most wait until he's slowed down for a day, in order to revert.) Please, take a second look around the discussions and history. Thanks. 152.80.48.103 09:32, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Toolbar changes

I'm not quite sure what you did, but if it's related to this awesome new toolbar, as I'm nearly certain it is, I really like it; nice job. (And if they're unrelated, I'm quite sorry for being a technical ignoramus.) Picaroon9288 19:18, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bloed, Bodem, Eer en Trouw

Hi,

You protected Bloed, Bodem, Eer en Trouw earlier this week. I've been argueing on the talk page of the article, and it seems we have come to a deadlock. Could you possibly wade through the discussion and comment ?

Me, I'm going to stop the discussion for now. I've tried to remain calm and civil, and tried to get User:Intangible into a real discussion about the article, but I seem to have failed. I think that for the moment the protection is a good thing for the article.

Thanks. --LucVerhelst 22:23, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

This is at WP:AE as well. I'm going to look into it later tonight but I have to split for a bit first. Thatcher131 22:24, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mr. Lefty's RfA thanks

Hi, Voice_of_All, and thanks for supporting me in my recent request for adminship, which succeeded with a final tally of 70/4/4. I hope I can live up to your expectations, and if there's ever anything you need, you know where to find me! --Mr. Lefty Talk to me! 00:07, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VoA bug (a nasty one too!)

I hope this hasn't been mentioned before...

This script does not properly convert ampersands (&) into the %26 character in HTML. As a result, when I went to propose deletion of C&M: The Columbus and Magellan Society, I actually ended up proposing a deletion of C. I can't imagine the admins look kindly on proposing the deletion of a page like that.

I hope this problem can be fixed soon. Thanks for the help, though!. -Patstuart 17:24, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Done[77].Voice-of-All 02:24, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Emergency off

Hi; Great work on the bot, it is a way bigger help than I knew. Thanks very much. The hot area for the big red button is so large it steps on the links for 'Change settings' and 'pages watched'. They are still clickable, but I did hit the button by mistake. So if the red light and siren went on, that was me; sorry. Tom Harrison Talk 19:09, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

The text and curly brackets look great in Firefox. You can probably keep the red dot if you like it by moving it up to just below the bot template. If you want to use the dot, put it back in the template and we can move it around on the page. If you like the text, that's fine too. Either way, don't take too much trouble just on my account. Tom Harrison Talk 20:19, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Yes, but that template has always been a bit messed up :).Voice-of-All 20:33, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Offical petition for the return of the red button++. The text looks truly bad :-/ --Sagaciousuk (talk) 11:31, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
Wheee - much better :) Ta muchly! --Sagaciousuk (talk) 19:42, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bug in edit tools

I noticed your changes to monobook.js, adding extra edit tool buttons. If one clicks the "Make table" button while using Internet Explorer, the browser freezes and crashes (and people to loose their edits). It works fine in Firefox. But, since many folks still use IE, the button should be removed from the toolbar until it's fixed and works in both IE and Firefox. This was reported on Village pump (technical). Hope you can fix it, because it looks like a helpful feature. Thanks. --Aude (talk) 19:58, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Or this edit by User:Ingoolemo may be the problem. --Aude (talk) 20:01, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
I've had that once. Othertimes when I use IE it works fine. odd.Voice-of-All 20:04, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re VoABOT

Uh, I'd like to try this, but where is the actual script located, and how exactly do I install and invoke it? Or is the fact that this is not obvious to me a hint that maybe I shouldn't mess with it? Herostratus 20:07, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Go to the bot's page. You should see the link there to change some things.Voice-of-All 20:16, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VoABot and WP:CHU

Hi - is VoABot currently archiving WP:CHU? If not, could you please run it; the page is getting rather long. Warofdreams talk 23:49, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Wait about a day, and it should be cleared up. Normally the bot waits a while before archiving things, and the page was dormant for a while as requests piled up, and then many were answered in a day or so, so they still count as too new to archive for the bot.Voice-of-All 23:54, 29 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Kappa Alpha Psi

Please assist


The Fraternity is the first NPHC member to have been incorporated as a national body. It is referenced here by a Official Fraternity WEbsite. http://www.kapsimwp.com/News/MW0402/MW0402.html . There is a claim that this isn't the case by user Ccson, though the claim is very specific in that it states to have been incorporated as a national body. Ccson submitted this http://mblr.dc.gov/corp/lookup/status.asp?id=6210 , but nowhere does it state that Alpha Phi Alpha was incorporated as a national body here.


Later on it was pointed out that in Wikipedia there is no original research when Ccson decided to write an email to Washington DC patent office and stated

"Here is the response from the District of Columbia Corporation department.

This letter is in response to your e-mail dated September 22nd. Corporations Division has the following companies on record: KAPPA ALPHA ASSOCIATION OF THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA, INC. THE (this is the closest in terms of name company to the one you are looking for) Incorporation date is 08/29/1918. ALPHA PHI ALPHA FRATERNITY Incorporation date is 04/09/1911. Should you have any questions, please, contact Corporations Division at (202) 442-4432 Corporations Correspondence Unit #4302

There is no record of Kappa Alpha Psi, however; that's unimportant since the incorporation date for for Alpha Phi Alpha is 2 days before the date that Kappa Alpha Psi filed for incorporation.

This information is verifable and other editors are encourged to contact the D.C. office at the phone number listed above to confirm. Please update your findings in this section. Ccson 03:07, 30 September 2006 (UTC)"

Original research..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NOR


Original research is a term used in Wikipedia to refer to material placed in articles by Wikipedia users that has not been previously published by a reliable source. It includes unpublished material, for example, arguments, concepts, data, ideas, statements, or theories, or any new analysis or synthesis of published material that appears to advance a position — or, in the words of Wikipedia's co-founder Jimbo Wales, that would amount to a "novel narrative or historical interpretation".


2 valid points I believe are given in that it states that Kappa Alpha Psi incorporation as a national body (and this hasn't been disproved) and the other is of original research and unpublished material (which is what Ccson has done) thank you and feel free to reply at my talk page or here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kappa_Alpha_Psi#first_black_fraternity_incorporated_as_a_national_body thank you. StrangeApples 04:30, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

YOu unprotected too soon, the original user just went right back as a new user and vandalized the info. Ccson 12:52, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Are you available for a 2nd admin review?

I see that you are online right now. Do you have a few minutes to review an incident? — ERcheck (talk) 16:02, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

What is this about?Voice-of-All 17:57, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi. It's been handled while you were offline. (I wanted a 2nd admin to review my actions/response to an incident.) Thanks. — ERcheck (talk) 19:11, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unfinished business on Open Proxy page

It appears that you marked many IPs as "Open Proxy. Blocked" but never blocked them (In fact, the last block you did was at 00:07 UTC, but you marked many more at 00:44 UTC.). Can you go back and finish up your unfinished business there? 128.2.20.184 16:41, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Done.Voice-of-All 17:35, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship/StuffOfInterest2

Hi, I was wondering how you were able to get all those stats on that page. People Powered 00:09, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Famous Azerbaijani's article

Please do not let them influence you. They are the POV pushers for these reasons: 1)Azeri's from the R. of Azerbaijan and Azeri's from Iranian Azerbaijan are not of the same ethnicity, they just speak the same language, 2)The Azeri's from the R. of Azerbaijan want it to look as if these people are Azeri's (from a "united Azerbaijan", when historically, the R. of Azerbaijan has nothing to do with Iranian Azerbaijan) rather than Iranains, which is not correct. That page is like having Americans and Canadians considered Famoush English men or something... Do you get what I mean?Khosrow II 00:15, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

I do not know why you chose to involve yourself in this dispute, but please, I urge you to protect the article as per my request on the page protection page. You claimed that there was no recent activity, which was clearly wrong. Please protect the page as per my request, on this version: [78], until dispute is settled. Thanks in advance.Khosrow II 02:37, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
"You claimed that there was no recent activity"...I never said that. I said there was not enough at the time.Voice-of-All 02:38, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
They speak the same language, they both call themselves azerbaijanis but they are not the same?? Canadians and Americans don't call themselves the same thing, so the analogy is not correct.. However, in this case they both call themselves azeris, and they speak the same language, they just happen to live in different countries for geopolitical reasons greater than them, like the Kurds.. Khosrov was blocked for 3RR for his disruptive behavior on that very article coz he insisted on putting an unsourced statement and reverted 4 times in 6 hours.. Baristarim 04:08, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
First of all, I was blocked for 3RR because I mis interpreted the rule to mean that we get 3 reverts per day, not per 24 hours. I am now unblocked because the admin understood that I misread the rule. And as per Azerbaijani's, no, you are wrong, it was not until pan Turks wanted claim northern Iran that they started make things up such as "two Azerbaijan's" and Azeri people. VOA should read the articles on wikipedia about pan Turkism and the R. of Azerbaijan.Khosrow II 22:38, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
It is clearly written in the policy that it is every 24 hours, I am sure you were aware of that when you reported Zaprodjk, how did u report him if you hadn't read the policy? In any case, doesn't matter who created the name or whatever, what is important is how people define themselves today, you say u r American for example, the same thing.. They speak the same language, they both call themselves Azerbaijani, this has nothing to with pan-turkism or anything, this has to do with modernity in the sense that we should accept people as how they refer to themselves, doesn't matter what their ethnicity is or what they were hundreds of years ago.. Baristarim 22:54, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for your opinion

You typed "...Aaron and IRC and whatnot..."

I too am well aware that I sometimes see things differently than, well, everyone else. If you're willing to take the time to tell me, I'm open to hearing where I've gone wrong in the way I've expressed myself. - brenneman {L} 01:33, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User:69.50.208.4

You unblocked this user a couple of days ago as no longer a proxy, however I came across it this morning, saw the original block message specfifying which web proxy service it was and quite succesfully edited through it. I've reblocked but was a bit concerned that such things may slip through the net. --pgk 06:36, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] title ix page

mislabeled accurate edit as vandalism; reverted.

[edit] User:Stubbleboy/Addtabs/monobook.js

I'm not sure I am adding your tools correctly. EWS23 directed me here. I advised him I was interested in easier features for vandalfighting, including rollback, easy warning, etc. Could you help? Thanks! Stubbleboy 22:49, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The recent Unprotection of MapleStory

From when you unprotected MapleStory to this post, every single anonymous editor has vandalized the article. It seems semi-protection is necessary for a longer period of time. Mapletip 03:16, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] protection Anarcho-capitalism

I guess it can be lifted now. Intangible 19:09, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Protected pages status changing

Can you get your bot to move articles from one section to another when their protection status is changed (e.g. when a page is changed from move-protected to semi-protected?) —Centrx→talk • 22:39, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

It is supposed to do that already.Voice-of-All 22:45, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
It also misses a some normal protections and unprotections. :( —Centrx→talk • 22:48, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
What pages?Voice-of-All 22:50, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

The most recent one I know of is Peace, Propaganda & the Promised Land. I have noticed it before though, and SlimVirgin adds pages he protects manually because of it. —Centrx→talk • 22:54, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

For the move notifications, perhaps not have the bot notify if it is "protected" with only move-protection? In these cases, it is after all more of an unprotection. —Centrx→talk • 00:07, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Semi protection of Your Mom

You recently unprotected Your Mom as part of a routine sweep. Unfortunately, this article continues to be a major target of vandalism, and because of the subject matter, will probably remain so indefinitely. Could you please reinstate semi-protection to this page? Dgies 23:48, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you note

Hi VoA! Just a note to thank you for your words re:CheckUser rights. I suppose we shall also work together on WP:RCU, since you clerk there :) . I look forward to it. Cheers, Redux 01:01, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please block User:24.60.181.235 indefinitely as an open proxy

If you notice that an IP address belongs to a hacked server like 24.60.181.235, it should be blocked indefinitely as a zombie proxy/open proxy, tagged with {{Zombie proxy}}, and listed under Wikipedia:WikiProject on open proxies#Blocked. This way, someone will be able to have it blocked on all of the other projects when that list is dumped to Meta. Zombie proxies are considered a type of open proxy, and therefore fall under WP:NOP. Jesse Viviano 03:50, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Protection at Anarcho-capitalism (2)

Despite Intangible's request to unprotect the page, I would encourage you to keep it locked until the Anarchism and anarcho-capitalism AfD is concluded, because that was the primary source of the dispute. You were wise to protect the article in the first place; we all need a cooling-down period. -- WGee 16:20, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Texas Wrestling Academy

You recently removed the sprotect on this article, noting that you hoped it was no longer necessary. Unfortunately, the same anon IP found it pretty much right away. [79] — Lomn 16:41, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Semi Protection is inclusive

Genuine editors really need to sign up when some sites are edited 10 times an hour. Other internet urban myth sites waste editors times. I want to beg and plea that you semi-protect The Frosties Kid for a few more weeks until it is migrated/merged to Frosted Flakes and please have a look at FC_Barcelona.

your friend Mike33 17:10, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Open proxy results

I've noticed that you've unblocked some proxies that are located on web servers. These are CGI proxies that damage the encyclopedia by introducing backslashes before quotes [80], [81]. Please leave these blocked indef, as if they are allowed to edit, any pages that have quotation marks in them will be damaged. Naconkantari 21:38, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Indeed, I didn't catch those backslash edit, otherwise I would have left it blocked.Voice-of-All 21:42, 7 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] House of Yahweh

  • Regarding your decision to not protect the page. I have had it watchlisted for a few months now, and every so often these vandals pop up. I usually revert within an hour or so, but as you can see from the history, the only people that semi-protection would negatively affect is the anon vandals... -- Chabuk 00:30, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
  • And again... - Chabuk 01:25, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for VoABot II

Hi VoA, I saw how VoABot II reverted the banned user Mywayyy here, here, here, and here. I just wanted to thank you for that, because now I don't have to revert him anymore! :-) Just one more page that should be added to the bot's watchlist: Antalya. Mywayyy (as 88.218.52.52) got into an edit war over adding the Greek name to that page. Thanks in advance. —Khoikhoi 03:12, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Any admin can change the watchlist, just go to the bot's userpage, and go to the "status" section.Voice-of-All 03:14, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm not an admin. :-( —Khoikhoi 03:19, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I actually thought you where one :). OK, then, added.Voice-of-All 03:20, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
No problem, I guess it's a complement! Thanks again. —Khoikhoi 03:26, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Specialadmin tools

Hi Voice of All, is there any way your Rollback (vandal) tool could use admin rollback instead of JS? Would be faster, and blacklist the user on the cvp IRC channel. Thanks in advance Glen 04:12, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

PS, thanks for creating such awesome tools by the way. Ive learnt a lot just reading over them (hence my slightly altered versions) You rock! Glen 04:14, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
I've though about that, but like have "vandalism" in the summary. I still might switch it over though.Voice-of-All 04:26, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
I uploaded this for another user but thought you may like a look :) Re changing from JS to sysop rollback - is there a change I can just make to one of my own personal pages to enable this for me perhaps? Glen 23:30, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
OK, vandal rollback now uses sysop rollback, since vandal/test edits are usually treated the same, and in proportion to how often they are repeated. I suppose the really vulgar vandals can just get blocked sooner.Voice-of-All 00:09, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RFCU Archiving

Can you use commas to separate names on WP:RFCU/Case rather than semicolons? There is no particular exact reason, just that you seem to be the only one adding them with semicolons, while everyone else was adding them with commas. Just finished converting some scattered semicolons to commas so the comma can be standardized against. --Kevin_b_er 04:37, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

This was due to a script bug; fixed.Voice-of-All 06:20, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Misspelling in .js file

I've made a minor correction, hope you don't mind. :) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 18:26, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Broken bot

[82] Jaranda wat's sup 21:56, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Fixed.Voice-of-All 04:40, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Don't understand how this one is either fullfilled or denied, I don't think anyone's looked at it but the bot: [83]. Bot may be broken. Kevin_b_er 01:46, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
That seems to be an anomaly. If there is an response icon or the request is older and has an admin username after an indent, it will archive. The only other way is if it is days old. odd.Voice-of-All 04:40, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Also [84]. the "lat" ones were talk pages, not templates. —Centrx→talk • 03:49, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Fixed. Will not take effect yet, just avoid "lat" for now.Voice-of-All 04:40, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More on RFCU archving

I hope this isn't too much of a problem, (sorry if it is), but we standardized the dates to when the checkuser last made a major response (as in, the last edit by a checkuser to put a decline/confirmed/etc). In fact, we made them all that way. You picked up on the archiving format rather quickly. Also apologies that since I knew you used a script I should've told you all the details of the new formatting the moment we started on it. One more thing, duplicate requests add rowspan=2 (or 3, etc) in front of section link. Rather difficult to describe with words:

|-
|rowspan=2|[[Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Arthur Ellis|'''Arthur Ellis''']]
|[[2006-07-22]]
|Marie Tessier, Ceraurus, 64.26.147.188, 64.230.36.153, 206.191.39.221, 206.191.56.34, 209.217.119.184, 209.217.93.40, 209.217.75.243, 70.51.52.253, 209.217.124.37, 206.191.33.120, 219.209.48.150, 209.217.99.125, 64.26.147.188, 209.217.93.40
|-
|[[2006-09-16]]
|Craigleithian, 209.217.96.46

With the second entry (new ones at the bottom) rowspan=2 appeared. I suppose there's an implied rowspan=1 on all of them. Take note of the | between rowspan=2 and the link. Each entry would likely just be an increment of the number, with |-, |YYYY-MM-DD, and |List of puppets for each one, with no empty lines between each entry of the same page/person. (Though there is empty lines between different cases). If need be to help your script, which I don't know the full level of automation on it, I could add rowspan=1 for all entries so all it has to do is increment the number. Kevin_b_er 01:35, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Napoleon I of France

I don't know whether you noticed, but within two and a half hours after you removed the semi-protection on this page, it was vandalized again. For some reason, the Napoleon I of France article is a real magnet for vandals, and you might want to consider restoring the protection. Thanks for your interest. --Russ (talk) 09:57, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your script collection

As there was some minor bugs in your collection, I decided to copy the code and fix them my self, as I was doing that, I decided to make some changes, see User:AzaToth/VoA.js and User:AzaToth/Revert.js →AzaToth 10:04, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mywayyy again

It looks like 88.218.61.254 (talk · contribs) seems to have slipped the bot's detection. Is there any way you can fix this? —Khoikhoi 16:02, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, the bot was off for a short while.Voice-of-All 16:34, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
Ok, no problem. —Khoikhoi 16:35, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey, is it on now? He keeps reverting. —Khoikhoi 20:36, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

I was doing some debugging to and I left saving disabled. It did trigger though. Editing is now back up again.Voice-of-All 21:38, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VoABot on RFPP

Hey, I noticed that VoABot hasn't been clearing completed RFPP requests over the last 24 or so hours. Just figured I'd tell you.

Also, I'm not really sure whether you'd be interested, but we need a bot to archive requests in WP:AN3. AN3 tends to get very long, and would likely be difficult to load over dialup. There's general agreement that reports should remain on there for about 2-3 days and then be archived. I've tried to configure Werdnabot to do it, but I suspect that I'm missing something. It'd be nice if no human involvement was involved in targeting the archive pages (Werdnabot would require us to change the target of the archiving every new archive.), which is why I'm asking you. Alphachimp 14:37, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Protection anew!

Sadly, the same fraudulent author who said he was a Fr. Aereld, Mgr. Roux himself, a Ms Littieri, has now - in the same writing style - said he is a Vietnamese immigrant, continuing his lies and destroying and vandalising the article. Please re-protect it. It is necessary!Smith2006 18:53, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Done

As requested example page created for modifying the test template. WP:RFP. I would also like to start bringing in line a few of the other templates, if you are ok with this one. Cheers Khukri (talk . contribs) 10:32, 12 October 2006 (UTC)


Cheers for that, sorry to be a pain in the proverbial, but would you mind just deleting the two 'carriage returns'/enters between the < / div > and the < !--
Thanks for that. All of the others I want to tidy, I have access to except {{subst:vblock|Duration }} do you mind if I do the same with that one then and put it on my subpage for you to copy in? or would you prefer I went through RfP? Khukri (talk . contribs) 14:18, 12 October 2006 (UTC)


One more ;), I've done the shared IP public template, and brought that in line with the others, but the ISP template(see here ) the text certainly needs to be brought into line, but cannot really find any reason why it is this way and not as the other templates. Thoughts please? Cheers Khukri (talk . contribs) 14:58, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mywayyy again and again

Hey, can you add two more articles to the bot's watchlist? (OTE and Vivodi Telecom). Thanks. —Khoikhoi 17:55, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

No sure if you saw this one...I think this might be her. —Khoikhoi 01:44, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bot II

I noticed that your bot, in its edit summary, says "...to last version by "User"." As a grammar freak, I would like to politely correct that the user's name does not need to have quotation marks around it, as it is only a name. Also, if you insist on having the quotes there, then the period belongs inside of them. Thank you! Reywas92Talk 21:06, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

The quote is due to the fact that it is just a proxy screen name usually, and it more clearly defines the name, as odd vandals names could make the sumamry hard to parse. The same reason applies for the period issue, in fact, I am aware of that rule though I reject it as it more confusing and unneeded.Voice-of-All 22:25, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:test5-n

I just wanted to know if it was really necessary to remove the table from the template. I actually prefer having the table, because it separates the template from the rest of the user talk page. Would you mind if I changed it back? Nishkid64 23:01, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi, if you don't mind I'll add my tuppence here, and I'll leave a quick message on Nishkid's page.
As an RCP I'm very interested in having harmonised warnings, and as I see it there is too much discrepancy between the warnings at the moment. As to your point Nishkid, I don't mind, but it would be good if all 5th level warnings were in the same format, boxed or not. WP:UTM is a very large page and I'm working on creating a template page along the lines of WP:TT which lists all of the available warnings and templates. If you would be so kind as to give me a couple of weeks, (look here) I'm trying to create a list of all the warnings and to have them in a similar format. I've also believe this will help in the long run for new editors who wish to contribute to wikipedia to fully understand the implications of every warning available. GIve me a couple of weeks and I think I can put the warnings in a better state than they are at the moment. This includes adding boxes around, etc, but so long as it's applied throughout. Cheers Khukri (talk . contribs) 23:19, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MetsBot

Hi Voice of All, would you consider approving MetsBot's 4th task? It's been sitting for 3 days with no response now. Thanks in advance. —Mets501 (talk) 00:19, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! —Mets501 (talk) 01:01, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Argh! Help!

The Transnistria page you un-semiprotected a week ago [85] is currently under attack again. Requesting intervention. --Illythr 21:24, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar!

Heya VoA, I gave you a barnstar for your help with your bot.--Konst.able 22:58, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Why thankie :) Voice-of-All 23:18, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Plains Indians

Since you lifted semi-protection on Plains Indians vandalism has resumed. This article has been a vandal magnet for months. I should be grateful if you would re-establish protection, that needs to be kept on for much longer. TerriersFan 23:57, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism continues - will you please re-protect this page? TerriersFan 21:26, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Lightbringer

You seem to have boxed-up too much in the archiving. —75.18.113.152 21:20, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bot reversion of Wire (band)

The changes reverted appear to be perfectly good edits. Perhaps the name of Colin Newman's new project being 'Githead' caused the problem?--Michig 17:20, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Could you block the IP address 68.60.71.112?

Could you block the IP address 68.60.71.112 [[86]]? Whoever that user is keeps adding insightful comments such as "Because zuko is gay," "And shes hot and has big boobs," etc.

Seems to have stopped.Voice-of-All 21:18, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I have been blocked and don't understand it

supposedly I have been indefinately blocked because someone using the name Js2Jo (sic) using my IP address has been accused of false statements etc, there is no one in my home that uses any names like that, I just moved into this home in June 2006 and am on Road Runner I just signed up for wikipedia tonite becasue a friend sent me a link to a page called Edgewood Arsenal Experiments, it was filled with errors, and I sepnt 2 hours getting the links to public domanin government reports and studies on the health of the veterans used there from 1955 thru 1975.

The reason I would like to see accuracy on the page, is that I am one of the 7120 men used in the "medical reasearch program. 40% of the men are dead and of the 4022 survivors 54% of us are disabled and the DOD and the VA will not address the harm caused by the experiments.

How do I get my IP address unblocked so I can post, it says it has been blocked by Jarandra or something similar but when I click on his name it says there is no page, so I can't ask them to lift the block. How do we fix this?

I am an old infantryman, and am not real knowledgabale about the ways of the internet, I post on Daily Kos as testvet6778 Help please thank you Mike Bailey

[edit] Bot note

Hi VoA - I just got a message from your VoABot and replied on its talk page, then realised that the talk page of a bot is a silly thing to comment on... so... well, there's a message over there :) Grutness...wha? 05:34, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What's this good for

May I ask: what's the purpose of listing each and every semi-protected template on a page? Rather a case for WP:BEANS I would say (or do you intend to give a list for vandals?) Do you want to encourage anons to edit stuff like template:Infobox Muscle? I also don't see what's the purpose of bot spam messages like these. But I will in future add a protection summary to make your bot happy. Best regards, --Ligulem 14:21, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] BOT - Regarding your recent protection of Template:Palestine-geo-stub:

You recently protected[87] this page but did not give a protection summary. If this is an actual (not deleted) article, talk, or project page, make sure that it is listed on WP:PP. VoABot will automatically list such protected pages only if there is a summary. Do not remove this notice until a day or so, otherwise it may get reposted. Thanks.

Actually, what I did was change one form of protection (write and move) to move only, which is the level to which I had said on the talk page that I was going to be protecting it to. If you check the link you provided, that makes it very clear. So although that change had no comment, it was only a few minutes after a protection which did explain what was going on. It's also listed on WP:PP. Grutness...wha? 05:33, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] False positive

Hiya, one of my edits was reverted as "Vandalism", though all I did was add a wikify tag and a "Living people" category.[88] Please tweak your AI, thanks. --NovaSTL 10:54, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

The test text "bold text" was triggering the bot. The user who restored the edits omitted that test text.Voice-of-All 15:52, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dragon red

Hello. Your bot reverted Dragon red I had checked for vandalism using VP2. The edit had involved a user formatting 2 links to external sites into a correct format and creating an External Links section in the article. The actual links were inserted more several months and several edits previous to this. The bot actually reverted a much more preferrable version of the page in this case. AA Milne 15:42, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

The addition of a myspace link by a new user/shared IP triggered the bot. This does pick up a lot of crap, but sometimes a small number of good edits too. Even when I check the few legitimate myspace links, they are usually (like most myspace pages) bloated with images/iframes/applets to the point were it crashes the browser.Voice-of-All 15:58, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hey

I just wanted to say thanks for protecting those pages for me. They are constantly vandalized. It gets quite annoying. I had to add another to the request list because I can't keep track of all of the vandalism. Thanks. --Mikedk9109 (talk to me) (watch me) 01:05, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Death Valley Driver Video Review

Looks like the banned user in question finally twigged to the fact that the Death Valley Driver Video Review article was unprotected and is at it again. Could we get it re-semi-protected (I know there's not much we can do to get him to stop because he's using AOL proxies? SirFozzie 04:24, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, it's appreciated. SirFozzie 04:51, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Johnny Gomez

Why exactly you keep reverting the Johnny Gomez article?

See [89], the bot was pickup up excessive repeated character use, even though they were just spaces. Spaces should never be used as such anyway, just use newline (press enter).Voice-of-All 02:37, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Habbo Hotel protection request

Could Habbo Hotel be protected against IP addresses and new user accounts? There are numerous IPs, 172.143.101.138, 195.93.21.137, and 194.83.209.102 that are inserting in general nonsense again and again. Uncited statements, weasel words, linkspam, etc. Thanks, Seicer (talk) (contribs) 17:08, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bot problems

Greetings would the owner of this bot kindly fix its tendency to revert error correction edits? (ie: Fethullah Gülen). Thanks. (→Netscott)

Voice of All, thanks for your prompt assistance in the matter. Cheers. :-) (→Netscott) 14:19, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Procedural question for bots on Wikipedia

Hello,

You recently were helpful getting my bot User:CopyToWiktionaryBot through the various hoops. Thank you. A suggestion came up on a subpage's talk page of CAT:MtW, suggesting that I append {{Transwikied to Wiktionary}} to the talk pages as they are completed. I'd like to start doing this also as part of that bot task. I also plan to run that sub-task for the couple hundred that have already been done. Do I need to submit a new request for it? Thanks in advance.

--Connel MacKenzie - wikt 13:44, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

normaly yes but if VoA agrees just go ahead as it is a minor change Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 15:18, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Indeed.Voice-of-All 16:44, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] About Julius Caesar

Hello there! Sorry to bother you, but could you please reinstate long-term protection on the Julius Caesar article? I think in the very short time since you removed protection we've seen how things would keep on going in its absence. --Nehwyn 16:38, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Any chance I could be added to Wikipedia:WikiProject on open proxies/verified users? Been confirming some myself[90]. And there's the occasional backlog there too. Thanks.--Andeh 17:35, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Any response?--Andeh 16:10, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
I talked to Tawker and had myself added recently, perhaps you could check more IPs and then talk to a more vetiran verified user, rather than the newest one, currently myself.Voice-of-All 02:13, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hakea laurina

You or your bot reverted vandalism which was not vandalism, but a badly formatted contribution. [91] Please be more careful in future. Poorly judged reverts like this one can mean the loss of new contrributors. —Pengo talk · contribs 02:27, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] A humble request for your opinion

Hello! I hope you are feeling fine. Recently, you expressed an oppose opinion with regards to my RfA. I would like to thank your feedback on this but I need another critical feedback from you. If you could spare a few minutes to voice any concerns you may be having with regards to my contributions to this project since my last RfA on this page, I would be most grateful. Once again, thank you for your time! --Siva1979Talk to me 05:56, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re VoABot II

This bot is repeatedly reverting what seem to be perfectly legitimate edits by User:Voyhoon to Korea. Please look into it. Thanks, -- Visviva 08:17, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Fixed.Voice-of-All 15:01, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Leatherhead and John Wesley

Comment on Wesley's last sermon removed. Why? DaveA1948

[edit] VoaBot

Can you please stop this reposting messages where they have been removed? This, in my opinion, is talk page spamming, and I was tempted to block it last time it happened. Rebecca 01:12, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

That would require it to detect if the notice has been removed. This would require temporarily storing the list of notified users and checking against it before saving. Currently the bot is does not know if it was removed, so it just adds the notices as if it were the first time. Given some issues with this method, I'd probably have the bot list the pages even without summaries. Lastly, notices for protecting userpages no longer occur, as that bug was removed a day ago.Voice-of-All 01:45, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] STOP this BOT!

It sems that you are receiving too many complaints from your bot. I may add more. Obviousy it is not too smart to be operated without human supervision or human supervisor is not smart as they think. There are too many different vandalbots running around amok lately. Time to unify. You bot drivers go together and discuss the issue, or I will write a bot that will run and revert all bots on sight. Last time I have more troules with cleaning after bots than after real vandals. `'mikkanarxi 16:34, 22 October 2006 (UTC)