Talk:Voiced uvular fricative
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[edit] Fricative vs. approximate
- an uvular approximant between vowels, as in Ehre [eʁ̞ə]
The introduction to the article seems to imply that /ʁ/ is the approximant while /ʁ̞/ is the fricative, so since German uses the approximant between vowels, "Ehre" should be [eʁə]. AxelBoldt 05:08, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
No, [ʁ̞] is the approximant; [ʁ̝] is the fricative (downtack vs. uptack). The fricatives/approximants from uvular back need to be expanded. kwami 08:31, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- And that's supposed to be German?!?
- In reality a one-contact uvular trill is used there. I haven't toured Germany, but I've never heard anyone speak German with a fricative or approximant between two vowels. Or initially, for that matter.
- (I'm a native speaker from Austria where neither the fricative nor the approximant occur.)
- Could it be that whoever wrote this is a native speaker of English and has confused the approximant with the one-contact trill?
- David Marjanović | david.marjanovic_at_gmx.at | 23:48 CEST | 2006/4/6
Whoa, why is there a pharyngeal approximant in that transcription? No way German has pharyngeals.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.235.158.206 (talk • contribs)
[edit] Text vs image
Why is text character the mirror imag of the image (how redundant :)
—Nethac DIU, would never stop to talk here—
20:10, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
- Don't know who, but it's fixed. I post this for avoiding people asking themselves "where? where?" :)
—Nethac DIU, would never stop to talk here—
17:28, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Hebrew
Perhaps Hebrew should be listed with Arabic (as in Semitic languages together) instead of European languages. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.107.127.229 (talk) 20:38, 9 December 2006 (UTC).
[edit] Usefulness of this page
The page is full of technical jargon that may mean something to someone, somewhere. But, to someone like me, who came to this page to get an idea of what a uvular approximant might actually sound like, it's absolutely useless, and worse, completely opaque. It provides absolutely no information to someone who is not versed in linguistics. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.6.2.72 (talk) 01:45, 25 February 2007 (UTC).
- There is already a sound sample. Is that not helpful? Could it be that you wanted a description that tells a layperson how to pronounce it? — Sebastian 21:28, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Ordering by number of fricatives
I liked the addition by the IP editor from the University of Queensland and regret that it has been reverted. I brought the matter up on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Phonetics#Revert war about formatting. — Sebastian 21:24, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
