Talk:Voiced palatal plosive

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Isn't the h sound in English huge an example of this phoneme?

For some people, that h isn't far from a voiceless palatal fricative. The voiced palatal plosive sounds more like an English j.

The closest you can get in English to this sound is in words like geek, where the velar g is followed by a vowel articulated around the palate, which has the effect of partially palatalizing the g. But if you turn the fricative h in huge into a plosive you'll get the right sound. --AdiJapan 08:25, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

I removed Italian from the examples due to insecurity. Can somebody more expert than me check whether this does appears in Italian or not?

I removed the Turkish example, as it is in fact:

• Turkish: güneş [gyˈneʃ], "sun"

and not:

• Turkish: güneş [ɟyˈneʃ], "sun"

as was in the article.

The Romance /g/ is fronted, and so apparently is the Turkish one. But that's [g˖], not [ɟ], for which you have to bend your tongue into a ⋂ shape so that the blade touches the alveolar ridge of the lower jaw.

For sound files of real palatal plosives and nasals, go here.

See Talk:Voiceless palatal plosive for why I removed Latvian from the list of examples and slapped "dubious" tags on a few others.

Incidentally, aren't the vowels wrong in the Turkish example you removed? Shouldn't they be [ʏ] and [ɛ]? Just asking. David Marjanović 20:34, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Except for Greek, the other languages are known to have voiced palatal stops. So the only one which may be dubious is Greek unless someone can find a source. The Writing Systems of the World lists Latvian having the voiceless palatal stop. Azalea pomp 17:31, 27 June 2007 (UTC)