Talk:Vodka Belt

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[edit] "unreferenced nonsense"

Isn't that whole point of the article? That vodka is consumed in these places because its ingredients are produced there? Am I missing something?--Pharos 17:19, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, you are missing the original phrase, which is so very false that I don't even want to discuss it. If someone provides a reference to support it, I will eat my beard as a snack to my next shot of "vodka" :-) `'mikka 19:55, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
You know, I'm not really sure what you're talking about. I don't even have any idea why this would be controversial. Can you please be a little clearer in explaining what's "unreferenced nonsense" in the sentence The region correlates with the growing region of vodka's traditional ingredients. Thanks.--Pharos 02:05, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
The article looks pretty well referenced to me.--h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 13:36, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Map...

One tiny little detail to nitpick here. Is there any particular reason that all the Nordic states are included in the definition but Iceland is specifically excluded from the accompanying map?

---anonuserwithnoparticularwaytoidentifyhimselfmorethoroughly —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 194.144.87.199 (talk) 17:36, 20 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Armenia

Should Armenia be added to the list? It has one of the highest rate of vodka consumption the former USSR following Russia. http://www.armenianow.com/archive/2004/2002/august23/news/offmessage/index.htm -- Ευπάτωρ Talk!! 17:23, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Should the map be remade, perhaps, and all countries where vodka is the most popular alcoholic drink added? Esn 07:31, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
This article mainly explains a term while specifying that there is no real definition. The current list of countries is derived from media references. Perhaps another section which lists countries where vodka is the most popular alcoholic beverage would provide more information while not confusing the reader about where the term came from. gbickford 21:10 28 May 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.48.167.243 (talk)

[edit] "See Also" Section

I have removed the "See Also" section from this page. The only links that it contained led to non-existent articles entitled "Beer Belt" and "Wine Belt." If someone would like to revive this category, then please make sure to include working links and articles.

(Kem78 06:40, 22 April 2007 (UTC))

And I restored them. If someone wants to vandalize articles, go somewhere which is not on my watch list. `'mikka 06:50, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Removing false information is not vandalism. There is no such thing as a "wine belt" or a "beer belt." If you want to disprove me, then provide some citations and feel free to add them to the See Also section. Otherwise, stop spreading false, unfounded information. (Kem78 21:29, 22 April 2007 (UTC))
I did so. I hope BBC and The Economist are reliable enough. // Liftarn

[edit] The Polish Beer-Lovers' Party

An IP editor is removing sourced content with edit summaries that do not reflect Wikipedia's core principals (see [1] and [2]). It's difficult to get a clear explanation in the limited scope of an edit summary so I wanted to expand here and see if we can collaborate to produce something that will improve the article.

The content that is removed is sourced and appears to represent a significant aspect of Polish culture (a party gaining seats in a representative election is not easily dismissed). So I think it really needs including. Is there a way to provide balance to the assertions? The edit summaries mention abstinence movements that are not currently included - is there a good source that shows they are significant? Or perhaps there is a well respected critic of the Polish Beer-Lovers' Party who's comments could give readers a broader perspective. -- SiobhanHansa 13:11, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

  • You claim that: "The Polish Beer-Lovers' Party (which won 16 seats in the Sejm in 1991)" "in 1998, beer surpassed vodka as the most popular alcoholic drink in Poland". Both claims are true. But what you write in-between is untrue. Have yhou ever heard of "beer alcoholism" (better known with the German name "Bieralkoholismus")? Not only Russians claim [1] that beer alcoloism is in no way better than vodka alcoholism. So you are wrong claiming that beer combat alcoholism. You also claim wrongly that vodka consumption reduction is due to beer consumption increase. In Poland there are many (bigger or smaller) movements working for soberty, just to mention Human Liberties Crusade ([3] KWC in Polish) or Wedding of the Weddings. But also there are economic changes, like increased number of purchased cars (more drivers, less occasions), or increased poverty, that reduce alcohol consumption in general, and of not so cheap vodka in particular. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.135.36.35 (talk) 06:55, 9 May 2008 (UTC)