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Contents 1 Bjeloruski 2 Ahoj back! 3 Do I know you? 4 Consent of the West 5 Thanks 6 Style 7 Request for edit summary 8 On writing 9 Joy 10 Thanks 11 COTW Project 12 RfA for HolyRomanEmperor 13 Other users' userpages 14 Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/HolyRomanEmperor3a 15 Vandalism 16 Unblocked 17 Re: RfA 18 Blokada itd. 19 Thanks for Choosing Belgrade 20 Duja... 21 Janjevci 22 Jacov 23 Is this OK? 24 Nevermind 25 Re: S&M 26 Compulsory comment 27 Prescription 28 a comment 29 Maps of Bosnia 30 User page vandalism 31 Congress of Berlin 32 Anachronistic 33 Liberalism 34 your edit to Grammar 35 Heh

[edit] Bjeloruski

Koliko dobro znaš bjeloruski ? Koliko je udaljen od ruskog ? Kao slovenski od hrvatskog ? Pogledaj neke tekstove na bjeloruskom, pa procijeni. Zanima me, a nemam dostatnoga znanja. Mir Harven 19:27, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Meni ovo izgleda vrlo različito od ruskog. Od fonetike i fonologije do sinatakse i leksika. http://www.geocities.com/albaruthenia/IA/language.html Ne razumijem zašto Bjelorusi već jednom ne ustroje sveučilišta na svom jeziku, nego se navlače s njima stranim jezikom kakav je ruski. Ukrajinci si to ne bi dopustili. Kao da je u Ljubljani nastavni jezik hrvatski. Svašta Mir Harven 21:34, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Vjerujem ja da je to samo privremeno. Kad počne među inteligencijom, nacionalna individualizacija širi se brže ili sporije, no, nezaustavljiva je. Kao što kaže anogedota iz Praga s konca 19. stoljeća: u Gradskoj kavani okupili se ljudi i sjede za stolom. Onda je netko ušao i upitao što bi se dogodilo ako bi im se na glave srušio strop kavane. Odgovor je glasio da bi to bio kraj češkog nacionalnog pokreta. No-strop se nije srušio. Mir Harven 20:55, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Mogli su i manji Litavci i Estonci. Bjeloruski je dovoljno individualiziran jezik i potrebna je samo veća agilnost inteligencije. Budimo realni-slati djecu u škole u kojem se uči na jednom stranom jeziku (npr. kao da Česi idu stalno u slovačke škole, ili Hrvati u slovenske, ili Makedonci u srpske, ili Danci u švedske,..)-to nema budućnosti. Mir Harven 14:23, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Pa dobro-kako onda govori kod kuće 82% stanovništva Bjelorusije koji se pišu Bjelorusima ? Ovdje piše da Bjelorusi, generalno, govore bjeloruski-Belarusian_language. Kojim onda jezikom u svakodnevnoj komunikaciji govori tih 80% ljudi ? Valjda ne govore svi ruski među sobom ? Na kojem su jeziku časopisi, TV program i sl ? Vidim, što mi izgleda skoro nevjerojatno, da su 2-3 sveučilišta (Minsk itd.)-na ruskom ? Je li to isključivo na ruskom ? To mi izgleda suludo. Mir Harven 17:02, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ahoj back!

Е како не разбираш македонски! :-) Сигурен сум дека 100% ме разбираш сега! Јас добар, фала на прашање - штотуку ми заврши еден доста зафатен период - испити на факултет, подготовки за изложба (уште траат), а исто така немав интернет до денес. Инаку, за малку ќе се запознаев со Џимбо Велс, ама човекот го откажа своето патување во Белград во последен момент. И така, весело! :-) Ти како си?

[edit] Do I know you?

Name sounds so familiar :)--Sannya 17:34, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

To je bila i moja prva misao. Al' evo prilike da ovdje prozborimo. :))--Sannya 12:12, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your nice words. Nice to meet you too. Hrvatski učiti iz dosade, svaka čast! By the way, ovo 'svaka čast,' ima li tog u engleskom?--Sannya 16:01, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Consent of the West

Mogao bih navesti ozvor, koji je uostalom vec poznata knjiga Death of Yugoslavia. Ne diram clanak dok ne odgovorite. --VKokielov 02:53, 1 April 2006 (UTC) Koji članak?:) --Ceha 19:37, 3 April 2006 (UTC) tian Krajina --VKokielov 22:22, 3 April 2006 (UTC) Nema problema, ako bude bilo što pogrešno, ispraviti ćemo. --Ceha 15:19, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

I didn't notice that:) ---J.Smith 17:03, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Style

Please note that variables must be italic, like this: ''x''. Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 05:00, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for edit summary

When editing an article on Wikipedia there is a small field labelled "Edit summary" under the main edit-box. It looks like this:

The text written here will appear on the Recent changes page, in the page revision history, on the diff page, and in the watchlists of users who are watching that article. See m:Help:Edit summary for full information on this feature.

When you leave the edit summary blank, some of your edits could be mistaken for vandalism and may be reverted, so please always briefly summarize your edits, especially when you are making subtle but important changes, like changing dates or numbers. Thank you.

Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 05:17, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

And one note. With due respect, you tend to write obfuscated and difficult to understand text sometimes. I suggest you keep things as simple as possible, and please think very carefully when modifying introductions. You can reply here if you have comments, thanks. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 05:17, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] On writing

I think it would be a good idea to avoid terms like "variables are lifeblood of programs" [1]. This is an encyclopedia, and the style has to be formal, dramatic expressions are not so appropriate, I think. Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 15:44, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

And you wrote I could revise many of the definitions here to be more precise. You are welcome, but I suggest you take it easy and slowly, at least until you get used to Wikipedia style/conventions. :) Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 15:46, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

I undid your change at center (algebra), as that first sentence is supposed to be an informal introduction. There is no need to go to the most general and most mathematical defintion right from the start. The precise statements are below, anyway.

It would be good if you read Wikipedia:Make technical articles accessible. As many new people to Wikipedia, you tend to write things more with your fellow mathematician in mind than the general public I think, and that may not be a good idea. On Wikipedia it is good to keep things as simple as possible while still driving the point home. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 16:39, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Joy

Eheh, mislim da je uzeo jednu "pauzu" nakon sto je probao Wikiholiac test. Jesi li ga ti isprobao? Wikipedia:Are You a Wikipediholic Test? :) --HolyRomanEmperor 22:10, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for supporting me in my RfA. I really didn't think people appreciate my work here that much, but it's nice to see you do: my Request was closed with 66 supports and 4 opposes. I'll do my best not to turn your confidence down. If in any point in the future you get the feeling I'm doing something wrong, do not hesitate to drop me a line. --Dijxtra 11:56, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] COTW Project

You voted for Lipovans, this week's Collaboration of the week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article. -Scottwiki 04:59, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA for HolyRomanEmperor

I do not welcome your revert of my refactoring. I had already informed Linuxbreak. It was a personal attack and an Ad Hominem. I left a private message on Zmaj's talk page demanding an apology. His comment does only divert from the issue to be discussed. --Asterion ^{talk to me} 15:18, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Other users' userpages

Refrain from editing other user's pages unless invited to do so. The note on Linuxbreak's page was private and not meant for you. --Asterion ^{talk to me} 15:28, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Quoting from Wikipedia:User page: In general it is considered polite to avoid substantially editing another's user page without their permission. Some users are fine with their user pages being edited, and may even have a note to that effect. Other users may object and ask you not to edit their user pages, and it is probably sensible to respect their requests. The best option is to draw their attention to the matter on their talk page and let them edit their user page themselves if they agree on a need to do so.

Whether the talk page is public or not, this is irrelevant. It is quite clear HRE did not invite you take that action and you did not seek reassurance either. Regards, --Asterion ^{talk to me} 15:36, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Whatever your actions were, I still assume good faith. Simply pointing out that given the gravity of the matter, this is up to the user and the bureaucrat to sort out by themselves. I am sure Linuxbreak will try to contact HRE and seek reassurance on his intentions. Best regards, --Asterion ^{talk to me} 15:49, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/HolyRomanEmperor3a

Please refran from making edits like these. This RFA is already high in tension and users are going to start to frown upon these kinds of edits. Moe ε 00:45, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Theres no need for that kind of "justifying". Moe ε 01:13, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Fine, I'll drop the quotations. Heres a blue-link, mind WP:CIVIL. You're opinions, and yes thats what they are, are not needed on an RFA that is already watched like a hawk for POV violations. You furthur commenting on this RFA is not needed. Moe ε 01:23, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

I don't care if you're Serbian or Croatian. I want the bickering between you two to stop. Moe ε 01:31, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

While I respect any of you're beliefs and you're reason for opposing, I would just like for you to deal with it without possibly indirectly hurting a users feelings. Moe ε 01:39, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I have removed you're edits once again. As I said, please refran from making non-relevant POV statements. You're edits are now borderline trolling. Please refran from adding comments like that again. Moe ε 01:48, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

I have reverted your change you made to my comment. Do not alter portions of people comments, it's considered vandalism. Moe ε 21:51, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. I'm sorry I have stopped being generous with the warnings now. Moe ε 22:03, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm flattered. --VKokielov 22:04, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Please do not add nonsense to Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you.

I have repeatdly asked you to stop readding that text. It not vandalism to remove vandalism. Moe ε 22:08, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize a page, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Moe ε 22:12, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

You have been temporarily blocked from editing for vandalism of Wikipedia. Please note that page blanking, addition of random text or spam, deliberate misinformation, privacy violations, and repeated and blatant violation of WP:NPOV are considered vandalism. If you wish to make useful contributions, you may come back after the block expires. TigerShark 22:20, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unblocked

I don't mind that you're not blocked anymore. I would just have liked for you to not POV push so much to the point that you were blocked. Please be more considerate of the polocies next time. Moe ε 23:18, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

You added me just because I added you. That was vandalism itself. (and if it's not vandalism its a case of WP:POINT). In order for a block to occur on WP:AIV (usually) the editor has to be warned several times for vandalism before a block can occur. Moe ε 23:26, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: RfA

Thanks for your trust and kind words, but I must decline the nomination. My degree of Wikiholism is already higher than I'd like to, and potential adminship would be a burden for me, at least in this moment. In 99% cases, I'm quite happy to go by with my "ordinary contributor" status, and I wouldn't like to be obligated with a task to which I couldn't devote substantial time to do it right. Duja 14:48, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Sori šta se miješam, ali mislim da ćemo te morat prisilit da prihvatiš. Jednom. Jakiša Tomić 23:02, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blokada itd.

Pusti to i ne zamaraj se s tim budalaštinama. Birokrati su svugdje isti (Gogolj, Čehov, Kafka, ... su o tom rekli sve). Mir Harven 16:03, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for Choosing Belgrade

Posted by (^'-')^ Covington 07:14, 1 May 2006 (UTC) on behalf of the the AID Maintenance Team

[edit] Duja...

ne zeli da bude admin. Nudio sam mu (i drugi) ali nece da se nakani nikako. ;)

Mozda pucas sa trece strane fronta? --HolyRomanEmperor 15:46, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

odkud?! --VKokielov 00:05, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Eto, tocno to ti pokusavam reci... --HolyRomanEmperor 10:14, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Evo, nasao sam od ems-a: User:HolyRomanEmperor/Religion/Judaism. Na to sam mislio.

Pa, nije samo da se Karadzic tamo krije, nego i traze da se tijelo Milosevicevo prebaci u CG. Podsjeca me na Hrvatsku koja trazi Tita. Najbolje bi bilo kada bi Srbija predala sve i ne bi bilo problema - pre par dana je Premijer (Kostunica) ispao budala pred cijelim svijetom zbog Mladica, a drugi najmocniji covjek u drzavi (Labus), podpredsjednik vlade je abdicirao i bjezi u Crnu Goru jer je rekao da se Srbiji vise nista ne moze uciniti - zbog njegove "abdikacije" raspada se i vlada, sto znaci da ce srpski pregovaracki tim u Becu oko Kosova vjerovatno biti opozvan, a i ko zna sto drugo - koalicija za zaustavljanje Radikala (SRS - najcvrsca stranka u drzavi) se raspada. Bilo je bolje za vrijeme NATO intervencije. ;) --HolyRomanEmperor 18:57, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

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Ovo je stvarno smijesno s tvoje strane. Nisam ni svjestan da ces ti pasti toliko ;D. --HolyRomanEmperor 21:10, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Janjevci

Hi,

If I recall well, it was agreed that Jacov's conspiracy theory that he keeps putting back at Janjevci is unosurced. If it is, please try to explain to Luka Jačov that he is not behaving properly.

--Ante Perkovic 09:17, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi,

Luka is being extremely stubborn. When I asked him to give reference for his claims, he told to me that I should Read Tudjman's book!!! I suppose all wikipedia readres should also read it instead of him giving some solid reference? Please, try to talk to him or report him to some other admin. --Ante Perkovic 09:37, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jacov

I'm quite a patient person, but I don't think Jacov's behaviour should be tolerated indefinitly. Could you explain me (I'm no expert on all the nitty-gritty wiki rules) is he in danger of being blocked for a longer period. I wish no evil to noone, but this guy needs to learn the rules in reasonably near future. --Ante Perkovic 12:49, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Gathering votes for what? Don't tell me he has ambition to be an administrator? I coudn't vote against him because I couldn't stop laughing and bring my self to the keyboard. Or the voting was related to something else? --Ante Perkovic 12:55, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi,

Should he be blocked for this (put it in your ass). He seams to be geting out of control. Maybe he needs few days to cool of, so can can study the rules od wikipedia? --Ante Perkovic 09:06, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

And this (no time to discuss, just to revert???) shows that he really can't make him self behave according to the rules.

I'm a patient man, but I don't really see the point of keeping this guy here. --Ante Perkovic 09:08, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Is this OK?

Hi,

I don't know all the rules of wiki, but I believe I know what is wright and what is wrong. I believe this is wrong:

• http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ACrnaGora&diff=54807180&oldid=54464469 (repeated many times, in coordination with user:C-c-c-c. See history (see early May 24)
• insulting entire nations while, at the same time, complaining for "insulting" his nation (this is about this)
• BM and C4 did this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:User_cg&action=history (denying right of montenegrin users to call their language montenegrin)
• trying to delete Wikipedia:WikiProject Albania just because it has the same structure as Wikipedia:WikiProject Serbia. For more, see BM contributions
• Funny thing is that Boris protested on croatian wikipedia because someone added link to his webpage on his croatian user page. He called that "vandalizm", and 14h later, he does this to user:CrnaGora.

I don't know it they broke any rules, but if they did, someone should try to explain them that the are not really behaving like honest wikipedians. I tried to talk to them, but no use, they don't listen.

Regards, Ante Perkovic 09:00, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nevermind

Ah, nevermind. I was just stopping by to say "hello". I came back again, but you weren't there, again. Anyways, I didn't have anything important to say. :-) Regards. --FlavrSavr 21:32, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: S&M

You're paranoid :) I just heard it used on CNN the other day... --Joy [shallot] 16:49, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Compulsory comment

Thanks for your message. Sorry to say I missed the point... Abstrator 23:40, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Prescription

Thank you for your addition to Prescription and description. Just to clarify: was the Soviet prescription organised by statute or by government agencies? In that case, can you please expand a little to say so? Or did the prescription come from informal linguistics gurus? In this case, your comment belongs in the paragraph above. Thanks. --Doric Loon 09:42, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] a comment

I happened to stumble upon Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/HolyRomanEmperor now and noticed your comment:

Oppose You already know what I think. But it will be well to add in passing that you're throwing mud into Joy's face. --VKokielov 23:23, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

What did that refer to? --Joy [shallot] 22:14, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Maps of Bosnia

Hi,

user:Dado has created some new Bosnia locator maps, but without entities marked (except badly visible inter-entity line). I think this is a bad idea, so I created my own maps, with separate colors for each entity (we have that already, but those maps are in low resolution and small).

I couldn't reach a compromise with Dado, and I believe we need third opinion.

Please, see:

• Image talk:BHMunicipalities.png (talk page of Dado's map)
• Image talk:BH municipality location.gif (talk page of my map)

Could you please find some spare time to comment this. --Ante Perkovic 23:08, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User page vandalism

I have reverted vandalism in your userpage twice today. If the situation continues, you may well consider requesting semiprotection to stop anonymous edits. I am not an admin but I am sure you could find someone willing to help you out. Regards, E Asterion ^{u talking to me?} 21:53, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Congress of Berlin

Hello, I would welcome a third opinion on this issue. --Ghirla ^-трёп- 07:05, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Please cool off. I restored your edits together with those sentences which you deleted without explanation. In your last version, the article read like an apology to the British imperialism. Happy edits, Ghirla ^-трёп- 08:10, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anachronistic

Well, the Ottomans weren't only Turks, they were the ruling Muslim millet (class), and there were other Muslims in the empire (Slavic and Albanian converts, Arabs, etc.) that had the same rights because of their religion.

Also, compare the modern republic of Turkey as the national state of the Turkish people and the Ottoman Empire as an... empire (a state that extends dominion over areas and populations that are culturally and ethnically distinct from the culture at the center of power). Todor→Bozhinov 12:36, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Liberalism

Hi, I found you through the list of translators. I noticed the Serbian wiki has granted FA status to their Liberalism article and hoped you wouldn't mind either improving Liberalism or simply throwing some ideas to everyone on the talk page. Thanks! Xaxafrad 03:23, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] your edit to Grammar

I'm most interested to know more about your point about the influence of Celtic on the continuous tenses. I thought it was Germanic, although I have no firm evidence. The edit needs a reference. Tony 15:32, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Wow! Thanks for that—how fascinating. I want to know more, so I'll search for those books in the library. Tony 16:03, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Heh

User talk:VKokielov/Heh --HRE