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[edit] Article: Harry Wu.

On 31 May 2008, I removed the part "An inconsistency in his story is that had he been arrested, it would not have been possible for him to graduate by 1959" from the article about the Chinese dissident Harry Wu. The previous version is reported below, where I highlighted the sentence I removed:

Wu studied at the Geology Institute in Beijing, where he was first arrested in 1956 for criticizing the Communist Party during the brief period of liberalization in China known as the Hundred Flowers Campaign. He has also claimed that he protested the Soviet invasion of Hungary in 1956. An inconsistency in his story is that had he been arrested, it would not have been possible for him to graduate by 1959. In 1960 he was sent to the laogai ("re-education through labor"), the Chinese labor camp system, as "counterrevolutionary rightist."

[edit] Reason

As a neutral reader, I erased the sentence for the following reasons:

  1. The erased sentence seems to have been placed there only for political purposes. There is no doubt that Harry Wu was prosecuted by the communist government for his ideas.
  2. The fact that Wu had been arrested in 1956 does not imply that he would not graduate in 1959, because:
    1. one can be arrested and then immediately released;
    2. one can be allowed to study and take a diploma even while in prison.

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[edit] Alleged Vandalism on Template:Infobox Kosovo by Vitaltrust

On February 17th, 2008 I received these two warnings by Rudget.

Please stop making test edits to Wikipedia, as you did to Template:Infobox Kosovo. It is considered vandalism, which, under Wikipedia policy, can lead to blocking of editing privileges. If you would like to experiment again, please use the sandbox. Rudget. 16:43, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits.
The next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did to Template:Infobox Kosovo, you will be blocked from editing. Rudget. 16:49, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

These warnigns were sent after I blanked the page Template:Infobox Kosovo, which I deemed no loger usefull. Following the warnings, I was blocked for 24 hours from any editing capability (despite, after the "last warning", I didn't make any edit).

[edit] My Reply

First of all, the template is no longer used in the article "Kosovo", so I think it's a waste of space. Moreover, that template had become a place where people against Kosovarian independence showed their frustration and no longer reflected the reality. I can't understand why Rudget and the administrator ChrisO consider my contribution as a form of "vandalism". Another question which arises is why Rudget left unchanged the (politically biased) sentence "Independence annulment: February 17, 2008" after reverting my modifications.

One can be in favour or not in favour of the independence of Kosovo, but politics should be left away from Wikipedia.

I have requested to ChrisO to have my edit rights reinstated, but I have received no answer yet.


  • My edits were not based on a supposed political allegiance. Large swathes of information was removed by yourself, yet if it was not in use, why so? Regards, Rudget. 17:38, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
    • The information had been already included in the article "Kosovo", which is (and was) protected. Nothing had been lost, since the history is always available. I blanked the page not for vandalising it, but because I was irritated by the continuing "do and undo" activity which was in place and because, as I said, it's no longer used in the main article and so I think it should be deleted. I'm very disappointed for having been blocked: I find it unfair. Vitaltrust, 17 February 2008, 17:54 (CET).
      • Just sit it out. If you're here to be constructive, you'll be fine after the block automatically expires. Regards, Rudget. 17:54, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Unresolved. There was a misunderstanding between me and the administrators. --Vitaltrust (talk) 10:47, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Lion

A "pride" is the collective term for a group of lions. It was used correctly in the article, so I've undone the change. Acroterion (talk) 15:24, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

  • Ok, I didn't know this. I thought that it was a mistake. Thanks for correcting me. Vitaltrust (talk) 15:32, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
That's what I thought: the term is defined rather far into the article, so it's not very obvious. Acroterion (talk) 15:39, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Resolved.