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Contents 1 Surname 2 Vadalised 3 Sonny 4 Real life models? 5 Film over book prejudice 6 Small Inaccuracies 7 Date of Birth 8 Date of Death 9 Long Island? 10 Quotes 11 Robert DeNiro image 12 Head of Corleone family before Vito 13 Male Chauvinism 14 Fair use rationale for Image:Vito GF.JPG

[edit] Surname

How do you pronounce his surname? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.9.9 (talk) 17:06, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vadalised

It seems someone has destroyed the entire page Edit: Fixed

[edit] Sonny

He found out later that Sonny saw him commit the murder, and he afterwards blamed himself for his son's violent streak.

How could this be possible? -- Toytoy 08:00, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)

This isn't true at all. I removed it. K1Bond007 07:56, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

In the novel Vito and Sonny confront each other and Sonny admits that he witnessed his father murder Don Fanucci.

[edit] Real life models?

Does anyone know who the real-life model for Vito Corleone might be? Would this be worth including in the article? john k 07:45, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Costello was already on the page, I added another source that Puzo mentioned.Kenobifan 02:47, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

godfather kicks ass he will put a dead horse in YOUR bed

-I don't understand why is it mentioned that he was based on Vito Genovese. They were very different characters and I don't see nothing similiar between Don Vito Corleone and Don Vito Genovese except the name. I think Vito Corleone was based clearly on Costello but Michael was based a little on Genovese. Michael exile on Sicily after murder and when look how Michael gaining power he kills the heads of Five Families. He was very ruthless. Just like Genovese who want's to wipe everybody just like Michael. Genovese kills Moretti Anastasia and wants to hit Costello but failed. I think Michael is a little similiar character to Genovese but why Vito is based on Genovese that I don't understand.

[edit] Film over book prejudice

Vito's early life had some alterations made to it for the films, and this page's article seems to treat the film as the canonical version, rather than making reference to the changes made.

For example, it says that his family was murdered when he was nine, that he avenged their death as an adult, and that he was renamed Vito Corleone on Ellis Island. The book states that he was twelve. Only the film says he was nine. In the book, his father was not killed by a Mafia boss--he himself killed the Mafia boss, and then was killed in retribution. Vito's mother, then still alive, sent him to America. In the film, an immigration officer renames him Vito Corleone. In the book, he takes that name for himself to honor his native city.

[edit] Small Inaccuracies

'Corleone later met Peter Clemenza, who gave him an opportunity to obtain a rug for his home. So, both men went into the home of Clemenza's friend, who was not home, and took his rug, almost being caught by a police officer.'

A very small point - and must admit I have only seen the films (many times) and never read the books - but surely there is little evidence that this was really a friend of Clemenza - just a 'cased' house to which Clemenza had a skeleton key? I'm quite sure that this was just an introduction to crime ...

Yeah, well clearly you're not going to kill a cop if he catches you taking a rug with the permission of its owner. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.148.5.119 (talk) 05:08, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Date of Birth

It seems that Vito was born on the same date as the bombing of Pearl Harbour. Source: Godfather Part II --Pinnecco 22:44, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

This would mean that he was born in 1891, not 1892, since the scene at the beginning of Part II takes place in 1901, and the weather suggests that it's before December 7. This is, of course, based on the movie, not the book. --Palpatine 02:04, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

For those who are confused, a clarification:

At the beginning of Part II, the bottom of the screen states that the year is 1901. Furthermore, there is expository text stating that he is nine years old at the time. In the very last scene of Part II, it is mentioned that the attack on Pearl Harbor occurred on Vito's birthday, meaning he was born on December 7. Now, in the first scene of the movie (where he is nine years old and the year is 1901), it is clearly Northern Hemisphere summertime. Since his birthday is on December 7, for him to be nine years old in the summer of 1901 means that his ninth birthday must have taken place on December 7, 1900. Perform the necessary subtraction, and voila! Vito Andolini was born on December 7, 1891. Kurt Weber 21:45, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Vito Corleone's tombstone shows his birthdate as April 28, 1887.15.235.153.106 18:24, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Would you really say it was clearly Summertime? It looked a bit bleak. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.148.5.119 (talk) 05:24, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Date of Death

I'm just curious. What is the source for this date?--Son of Somebody 14:43, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

-He wasn't die in 1954!! He died in the year of 1950. In the Godfather Part II when Michael testifying before the Senat Committee they asking him that in the year of 1950 he ordered to murder heads of the Five Families. In this year Vito was already dead!! He didn't die in 1954 for sure.

I agree: 1950 (or 1949 possibly) was the year of Vito's death and 1950 was certainly the year of deaths of Tessio, Moe Green, etc.Jrm2007 01:45, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Okay, the death year was changed from 1950 back to 1954 without explanation. Can't think of a more authoritative source than Godfather II unless it is the book or Godfather I. It is absolutely clear that in Godfather I, V. Corleone died during a hot month, so not December. Therefore, if Godfather II is to be believed (from what was said by the Senator), he died in 1950 as first mentioned by the second poster on this page. Would like to hear reasoning from the person who decided to change my edit.Jrm2007 00:40, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

The birth year of his grandson has bearing on Vito's death date -- see the discussion page for Anthony Corleone. Nice that someone without a handle keeps reverting death date without being willing to discuss reasons.Jrm2007 03:12, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

It is asserted that V. Corleone's tombstone is shown in one of the films and a death year of 1955 is on it. Can anyone verify this? If true, there is simply a major inconsistency in the film versions.Jrm2007 05:13, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Long Island?

Are you sure the Corleones resided on Long Island? I thought they resided in the borough of Staten Island...?

NewYork1956 06:01, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

you claim to be from new york yet staten island isnt a borough dickhead.

-Corleones compound wasn't on Staten Island and it wasn't on the Long Island it was on Long Beach.

Yeah I asked someone about this [he was a tourist just back from New York] I want to know where is this long beach? I also wrongly assumed it was called Long Beach like named after LOng Island, but forgive me, I only want to know where the Don lived and I have no idea. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.148.5.119 (talk) 05:26, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Two Things: a) Staten Island is one of the five boroughs, despite the claims of our rude friend b) Long Beach is on Long Island. Look it up on Google Maps. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.226.172.117 (talk) 01:13, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Quotes

I just moved all the quotes on this page to Wikiquote. There was already a "The Godfather" article in Wikquote, so I just appened the quotes in this article to the Wikiquote version.

However, this meant the {{wikiquote}} template wouldn't work, since it links to whatever the Wikipedia page name is. Under Wikipedia, "Vito Corleone" has his own article; under Wikiquote, "Vito Corleone" is only a section under "The Godfather." Since there's no "Vito Corleone" article on Wikiquote, it doesn't go anywhere. So, I just made a plain text link under "References."

Is there a way to fix the template? Or should "Vito Corleone" be created as a #REDIRECT page to "The Godfather" in Wikiquote?

Nevermind, Wikiquotepar did the trick.

[edit] Robert DeNiro image

Robert DeNiro also received an Academy Award for his role in The Godfather II as Vito Corleone, so I think there should be an image of him as Vito in the character's biography. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.196.105.235 (talk) 20:04, 25 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Head of Corleone family before Vito

Logically, wasn't Vito Corleone's father, Antonio Andolini, the head of the Corleone family, before Vito took over?? It is the same family, after all, and he was the head of the family, before Vito attained adulthood. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kwakkles (talk • contribs) 17:53, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Head of the family, es, but Family, no. Note the case of the first letter. Puzo himself used this important distinction, and varied it according to the meaning or intent of the use.

And also needless to say, Vito would have been head of the Andolini family, not the Corleone family. And it was young Vito who began the criminal dynasty -Antonio was actually killed for standing up against the Mafia [he had been in a dispute with a neighbour, the neighbour referred the matter to local Mafiosi for a ruling, and Antonio refused to obey the decision they handed down] so there was nothing in that sense for Vito to take over, except the family name [and he didn't even do that!]. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.148.5.118 (talk) 05:16, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Male Chauvinism

Is it absolutely necessary to mention that Vito showed signs of male chauvinism? The story is set in the 1940s. I think it goes without saying that his views would be chauvinistic. It was hardly a concious choice of Coppola's to include that side of him. It cheapens the article considerably to include such a hackneyed feminist intepretation of a character who neither invites it or needs it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.175.225.192 (talk) 15:03, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

And even further exonerating Coppola, was the fact that all of these traits were pointed out and criticised by Puzo himself, the sole creator of the character. Reading his original book introducing Vito, he repeatedly calls Vito "old fashioned", and even characterises Sicilian culture generally as "primitive" in the field of sexual equality etc. So I think Coppola was just faithful to the character he had inherited from Puzo, and Puzo himself was fully aware of the prejudices and assumptions of the character he had created. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.148.5.119 (talk) 05:22, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Vito GF.JPG

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