User talk:Viriditas/Archive 3

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Xenobiology moved to Astrobiology

I think it should be OK, with the history intact. The Astrobiology only had a history move in it. - Ta bu shi da yu 06:38, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the Welcome

Hi Viriditas! Just wanted to say thanks for the welcome. I realize you may get tired of pasting standardized boilerplate onto the talk pages of newbies, but it was cool to get the "you have mail" message upon logging in ;) Wikepedia looks neat! I hope to be able to keep contributing. --Culix 11:15, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Hey again! Thanks for the feedback. No, I am not on Czech time, I'm actually on -7 GMT. If you are in Hawaii that puts you in -10GMT, am I correct? I would be glad to talk about computer ethics or pages relating to such if you so wish. What would be the best way to do that? Also, I hope this is the correct place to respond to your message. If not, please let me know. --Culix 10:29, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Hey Viriditas. Yes, that Ethics of technology article is very interesting. It seems like ethics is a hard subject to write on while still keeping NPOV, especially for contemporary topics like computer ethics, don't you think? I will do some research into it after I have finished exams (in a couple weeks) and see if I can find anything to add. Thanks! --Culix 03:52, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

User:Alberuni

I'm very aware of that, but I will not block him (conflict of interests). Also, I didn't think to warn him about it specifically (though I did warn him about his three reverts at Zionist revisionism). User:Tarek seems to have convinced him to stop, so I'm willing to let it slide, but you're certainly free to find another admin to look into it. Cool Hand Luke 09:03, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I asked him to clarify the copyright issue three times on his talk page. Cool Hand Luke 09:06, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thanks

Just saw the message on my user page. Mate, I appreciate the encouragement :) your comments mean a lot to me! And hey, you're a very diligent admin... you are an admin, right? - Ta bu shi da yu 20:24, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Corrie's photos

Truly. I did put that they were BBSNews photos though. ¿How can I erase the GDFL in the images though?

Ciao.

Astrobiology

I had to delete the redirect first, then I moved the article over. Simple :) You need to be able to delete articles though. Ta bu shi da yu 05:57, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

About Gary Webb

My revisions to the Gary Webb article were directly drawn from the facts as reported in the Los Angeles Times obituary on 12/10/2004 by Nita Lelyveld and Steve Hymon. Hymon in particular is a muckraker well-known for his hard-hitting coverage of inner-city issues like healthcare, and for attacking government officials when he knows the facts are on his side. If he felt that there was some truth to Webb's allegations, I have no doubt that the obituary might have been a lot more sympathetic. --Coolcaesar 22:28, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Actually, I got the title of the book wrong when I was paraphrasing in a hurry. The original article got the title correct. The URL of the L.A. Times obituary is: [1] Also, I just looked on LexisNexis (I have access to the real thing, not that Academic Universe crap available at most universities) and in addition to all those investigations, the CIA's own internal investigation (with assistance from the Department of Justice) found no direct link. The majority of the articles supporting Webb ran only in far-left political publications like Tikkun and the Progressive---not exactly the most objective sources. While I have a healthy distrust of the government like most American intellectuals (and I do enjoy reading Mother Jones and the Nation regularly), I think it's important to remain neutral in an encyclopedia and keep the conspiracy theorizing to a minimum. --Coolcaesar 22:53, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Richta

Hey - I noticed you did some categorization of Richta's page. Looks good, thanks! --Culix 01:44, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

CheeseDreams and Historicity of Jesus

Firstly, thanks for kind comments on my user page. They were toally appreciated... I'm in a much better state now so I'll be reverting back. It's good to know that people are very kind on this site though :-)

Anyway, back to the point (I've posted this to WP:AN): Could you help me out with the changes that CheeseDreams is making on Historicity of Jesus? She's running roughshod over everyone on an extremely controversial article, and she has an agenda (this can be seen from her contributions to other articles, also see the RFC on her). It's already been stuffed up due to this user's edits and had to be protected by RickK (in it's highly POV and badly structured form: at one point there were essentially TWO articles on the one page). Now CheeseDreams is making a massive change without using the talk page, and it adding sections that don't even have any content in it! I've reverted back and have requested that she bring her changes to the talk page. I would appreciate help with this one as I don't particularly want to engage in an edit war with her. - Ta bu shi da yu 13:49, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Operating a cabal

It's so nice when people leave blatent evidence of operating a cabal, and a reversion tag-team system.

P.s. Note Filiocht's comment on WP:AN

P.p.s. Your side made 5 reverts before I even made 4.

CheeseDreams 18:09, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Doh! Now Viriditas has been found out! Sorry mate, you're kicked out. Remember: we're a sekret cabal! - Ta bu shi da yu 12:54, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Goldberg

New info at WP:VIP. I also asked Goldberg not to direct any more personal attacks at you. Since VIP isn't the place for this case, I suggest you take it to dispute resolution. Good luck. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 19:53, Dec 14, 2004 (UTC)

  • You can always do a WP:RFC or take it to arbitration. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 08:17, Dec 15, 2004 (UTC)
    • I'm sorry I couldn't help you. Feel free to direct any additional proof of violations by Goldberg my way, and I might be able to help out in the future. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 12:16, Dec 15, 2004 (UTC)

24 hours

I noticed the dispute about a whether a 4th revert at 24:05 was within 24 hours. This is not against the rules. Within means less than. In this case, the 4th revert occured after 24 hours plus 5 minutes. So the reverts were within 25 hours, but not 24 hours. Wolfman 20:31, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Yes, the policy should be made more explicit. As you can see on the 3RR Talk page, the poorly-defined policy has been a concern of mine. Obviously, someone who makes the 4th revert in 24:05 is showing little respect for the spirit of the rule. That's frustrating. But I don't think it's ok to "round down"; that would be showing little respect for the letter of the law. Regards. Wolfman 22:21, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Camera

Sorry for the late reply (I'm in the process of moving across country). The camera I use is fairly unremarkable actually: The 3.2 mega pixel (MP), 3x optical zoom (OZ) Sony Cybershot DSC-P71. The trick is to play with the settings and take a bunch of different photos at different settings. But for landscape shots in full daylight an ISO of 100, focus set to infinity, exposure value of +/- 1 or 2 (depending on ambient brightness), mode set to daylight, and maybe use of the integrated spot meter, will result in good photos. A rule of thumb to create great photos is to slightly underexpose the photo and then post process the image with The GIMP/Photoshop by increasing gamma and contrast until it looks nice (be careful about increasing brightness since it washes out the image). Sometimes I have to do this for only part of an image (such as an area in shadow). Overexposing an image is *always* bad since that destroys image detail.

I had wanted to buy the 4x OZ, 4 MP Canon PowerShot G3, but needed something smaller and that could use AA batteries. Of late, I've been eyeing the 7.1 MP, 4x OZ PowerShot G6 and the 8MP, 7x OZ PowerShot Pro1 to serve as my main camera. --mav 22:24, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Be careful

I'm sure you don't mean it, but try not tell CheeseDreams she's naughty. That could be counted as baiting, and it may reflect badly on you. I figured I'd let you know because I'd want someone to tell me directly if they saw me do this. Be very careful with CheeseDreams, she may be infuriating but we must behave better than she does so she can't come back at us with accusations of bias and unfairness. - Ta bu shi da yu 06:58, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I know that, but others won't. Sometimes it's better to be ultra-cautious about these things :-) I'm sure you understand that in the medium of text where you can't see facial expressions or human gestures these things can be misconstrued. It's good to see you take my comments on board though... Like I say: be careful with CheeseDreams. Ta bu shi da yu 07:09, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Kaise Soze

Yeah, I saw that. But I've just responded and left it at that. They haven't tried to edit the page or cause any major disruption, and I have no real proof. Best to just respond in good faith and monitor what they do. - Ta bu shi da yu 07:18, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Then she's baiting us. Don't respond and she'll get no satisfaction. - Ta bu shi da yu 07:30, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

VfD

Heya, please keep in mind VfD articles take H3's (i.e. 3 ='s) for individual VfD headers. (The current VfD process is horribly complicated, you can hardly be faulted for such a small mistake, just thought I'd remind you) --fvw* 10:49, 2004 Dec 17 (UTC)

Dubious.

Don't do that. Just use {{subst:dubious}} - Ta bu shi da yu 12:49, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

No harm done. I've removed it. How's that article going anyway? I've stopped watching it: it was raising my Wikistress too high. - Ta bu shi da yu 12:53, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Asbestosis - Compensation and Liability Disputes

Thanks for your contribution. Significant revision in progress. Please re-visit and comment, if you consider appropriate. 201.8.95.202

Goldberg

That's a horrible thing he said. I've removed it and added a link to the history. Horrible. - Ta bu shi da yu 03:13, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Special Contributions

Ahh, thank you Viriditas : ) I was doing it the hard way. --MPerel 05:25, Dec 21, 2004 (UTC)

Wikipuppets

Thank you for the link to User:Viriditas/wikipuppets. I didn't realize he was using so many. It's nice to have a central location to show the relationships. I've placed that page on my watchlist. Thank you. SWAdair | Talk 03:46, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Welcoming anons

Hi Viriditas, I noticed that you used {{welcome}} on User talk:66.30.225.29 instead of {{anon}}. Try and remember to use the latter, as registered users are more valuable to the community than anons - and it gives us somewhere to put user vanity. Thanks, Alphax (talk) 04:39, Dec 22, 2004 (UTC)

PS. I changed it and left the user a message. Alphax (talk) 04:41, Dec 22, 2004 (UTC)
No problem. I've been welcoming a lot of anons lately - they seem to have a habit of creating vanity pages about themselves. Alphax (talk) 05:10, Dec 22, 2004 (UTC)

Wiesenthaler

Hey Viriditas, I agree that it's very unsavoury to have magazine clippings on your user page, however at least it gives us an idea of his POV. I'm loath to do anything about this one, because as much as I disagree with his views I don't want to censor him. The big problem, as I see it, is that he's committing a copyvio by pasting them onto his front page. That's well outside the scope of fair use. - Ta bu shi da yu 10:24, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thanx for bringing it to my attention. I'm going to ask him to stop, because those copyvios are a real worry. - Ta bu shi da yu 10:32, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

"Talk" after signature

How do you get it to include a link to your talk page after your signature? Is that with the help of a macro, or is there another way to do it? Nathanlarson32767 13:24, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Aloha. I know of two methods for modifying the signature. The easiest is to change your preferences. You can learn how to do this in detail on Help:Preferences. Look under the section, "Your nickname". That's the easiest and most reliable method of changing your sig, and that's what I did to add the "talk" link. The second method is to use a dynamic signature template. Let me know if I can be of any further help. --Viriditas | Talk 00:28, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I'm having trouble getting it to work. Here is what I have pasted into that box: ]] — Nathanlarson32767 | [[User talk:Nathanlarson32767|Talk. — Nathanlarson32767 | Talk. 01:01, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Oh, I guess it's working now. Let me try that again. — Nathanlarson32767 | Talk. 01:02, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
OK, never mind. Thanks for the help! — Nathanlarson32767 | Talk. 01:02, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

{{bottompostusertalk}}

I noticed you're using my {{bottompostusertalk}} template. I just made a new one that you might like better, {{usercomment}}. --Theodore Kloba 19:59, Dec 22, 2004 (UTC)

Request for Arbitration

Following the various tos-and-fros on WP:VIP, I have made a request for arbitration. You are one of a handful of users in the "Various" request. Sockatume 21:52, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Request withdrawn; turns out that the user accused of being a sockpuppet has been blocked, therefore resolving the issue. Sockatume 22:03, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
You were included in the request because a suspected sockpuppet was making a big fuss on WP:VIP about being labelled as such. You'd called out a preceding suspected sockpuppet of the same user, therefore your input would've been valuable. [[User:Sockatume|Sockatume User Talk:Sockatume]] 22:12, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Image for deletion

Viriditas, could I get you to vote on WP:IFD to delete Image:Ok magazine 89 cover.jpg? It's a picture of a child on a paedophile magazine. It needs to go. Now. - Ta bu shi da yu 08:08, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Jesus

It is not your "edits" that are in question, it is your removal of an entire section.

I removed two paragraphs, which have absolutely nothing to do with the historicity of Jesus but merely restate religious opinions.

You are not obliged to seek consensus for an edit, that is true, but you are obliged to work with consensus in mind when editing controversial articles.

Says who?

The section you keep removing attempts to make a case (a bad one at that) for historicity.

It does no such thing. It states religious opinions.

This is not my POV, but does in fact, represent a Christian POV.

The article is not about what Christians believe, it is about whether Jesus was a historical figure and if so what can be said about his life. What Christians believe is quite irrelevant to that. Adam 10:07, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)

You removed two paragraphs which attempt to introduce the reader to the historicity of Jesus couched in terms of the religious opinions of the adherents.

The religious opinions of Christians (or anyone else) have no relevance to the topic of the article, which is whether Jesus was a historical figure and if so what can be said about his life.

What Christians believe regarding historicity is certainly relevant to the article.

Christians believe that Jesus was the son of God who rose from the dead etc. These are religious opinions not opinions about history. Christians believe these things through faith and tradition, not because they have studied history. The Christian view of Jesus is amply discussed at the main Jesus article and doesn't belong in this one. This article is about what secular belief systems have to say about Jesus.

Adam 00:57, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

OK, well I am off overseas for a month tomorrow so I don't have time to argue about this now. When I get back in February I intend taking an axe to this article. We can talk about it again then. Aloha. Adam 03:57, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Suspected Sockpuppet

I think you might be interested in this: [2]. Is User:Pravda a sockpuppet for User:HistoryBuffEr? MathKnight 18:45, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The usual good faith is being assumed by all, of course. I came here because I noted that you had put a comment on Pravda's page demanding tha he not make reverts. Do you put similar comments on Jayjg's page? Or do you only disapprove of certain reverts?Dr Zen 01:31, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Pravda

I moved it under Alberuni because Pravda also edited Muslim related topics, like Alberuni but unlike HB, Pravda's other edits tend to be better written than HB's, and Alberuni has used sockpuppets to revert to HB's versions in the past (see Yasser Arafat for example). Jayjg 02:43, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Perhaps, but in my view his latest edits just confirm whose sockpuppet her really is. Jayjg 04:14, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Actually, he changed the sentence "Her death sparked controversy because she was the first Western protester killed in the conflict and a U.S. citizen, and because of the highly politicized nature of the Arab-Israeli conflict to "Corrie's death sparked controversy because she was a U.S. citizen and peace activist killed during a non-violent protest" and "the U.S. did not conduct or request an independent investigation, and Israel has cleared its soldiers of responsibility while refusing to release documents from the investigation" 7 times in 13 hours. [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9]. And all 7 are reverts to HistoryBuffEr's version. Jayjg 06:44, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Wiesenthaler

Hi Viriditas, take a look here at the contributions of User:SLUR. They are remarkably like Wiesenthaler's. Slim 05:33, Dec 28, 2004 (UTC)

re: your note on my talk page

RfC

If you don't mind me asking, I'd appriciate your support at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Mbecker. Thanks. — マイケル ₪ 04:42, Dec 29, 2004 (UTC)

RfC on User:Auto movil

Hi - I've filed a RfC for now on the comments leveled at us by User:Auto movil. For it to proceed, it requires a 2nd signature. I have compiled all evidence there. Please review the RfC and if you agree with it, I hope you will sign it so the RfC can proceed. If you will not sign it, I hope you will let me know why on my talk page. Thanks. The RfC is here Jewbacca 06:59, Dec 29, 2004 (UTC)

Stub sorting policy

Please help me and others in deciding the stub sorting policy. Thanks!

See: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Stub sorting/Policy

-- AllyUnion (talk) 01:47, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)