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[edit] Failed GA

I have failed this article as a candidate for Good Article status. Everything from about the middle of the article onward are just long lists, which seems like a rather too in-depth way to have an article layed out, and certainly isn't much in the way of brilliant prose. Of the top half of the article with real content, referencing is sparse, the lead is too short and doesn't give much summary of the history which consists of most of the content, and in the history itself, it reads like a sports magazine, with such speculative and non-NPOV statements as:

"Support for UVa football had become spasmodic--even fraternity brothers were betting openly against the Cavaliers--around 1930, but in 1931, a dynamic new coach named Fred Dawson buoyed spirits. Losing seasons and a lack of athletic scholarships took a toll on Dawson's enthusiasm, however, and he quit after '33--succeeded by Gus Tebell."

"The Guepe years ended after the 1952 season, when the coach was wooed away by Vanderbilt. In successor Ned McDonald's first year, the record plunged to 1-8."

"The 1940s arrived in Charlottesville, soon to be etched in memory as a decade of war and the era of "Bullet Bill."

"Virginia, wearing new uniforms for the first time in 10 years and only the second time in head coach George Welsh's tenure, enjoyed one of the finest seasons in UVa history in 1994."

And many, many more examples. I'm afraid their so numerous that almost all of this article will likely need to be re-written. Also, it was my understanding that the acronym is supposed to be "UVA", instead of "U" + the abbreviation of Virginia the state. A note in the introduction about this might be nice. But anyway, this is not a Good Article. Homestarmy 20:22, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] NCAAFootballSchool template

The former infobox-type portion of the page has been converted to the NCAAFootballSchool template. There are many more optional fields that can be used with this template to expand it.-Gwguffey (talk) 07:26, 23 December 2007 (UTC)