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[edit] Informal attitude

I looked here to find repeated comments about the use of humour during safety briefings. --Jumbo 06:15, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Leading?

Is there any evidence to prove that this actually is the leading Australian low-cost airline? On what basis is this statement made? 131.107.0.81 23:30, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Since no-one seems to have an opinion on this matter, I (same person as the paragraph above) have removed the reference to Virgin Blue being "the leading" airline. Pennoze 22:51, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Disabled passengers

The following is from the press release:

Mr Wallace, who uses a wheelchair and is also a national board member of People with Disability Australia, was told he would not be able to board a (Qantas booked) Virgin Blue direct flight (DJ578) from Adelaide – Canberra scheduled for 4.05 pm on Sunday 8 October 2006 as he allegedly did not meet Virgin Blue’s ‘independent travel criteria’: follow the links from http://www.virginblue.com.au/bookings/ssrs/

The press release can be verified by contacting dacsecretariat@ozemail.com.au

Banno 06:41, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Callsigns

Every time I have been spotting the over the radio it has always been Virgin XXX. I have also checked with a friend who works for virgin, he says the call sign is 'Virgin. According to this links the Virgin Callsign is 'Virgin' Here I don't see where you are getting your info from??

So does Virgin Atlantic at your site. Here. Is that website really authentic? Airline code website posted that Virgin callsign belongs to Virgin Atlantic. This is my source. Try google also. --Zack2007 12:06, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
I originally removed the VIRGIN call sign because it is allocated to Virgin Atlantic, two operators can not legally use the same callsign. ICAO Document 8585 is the official source for ICAO Codes and Callsigns not an amateur website which may not be acurate and up to date, the ICAO data can be accesed here ICAO 8585. This show that Virign Blue does not officially have a callsign allocated. MilborneOne 12:20, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Fair points, then why DOES Virgin use 'Virgin' as there callsign if it is illegal?? I just listened to my scanner then and they definitely use Virgin.. The only reason I can see for this is they have an agreement of some sorts with Virgin Atlantic? Whatever the reason the call sign unofficially is Virgin and it should be noted.--Mcgrath50 23:36, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
I still think the infobox should show that a callsign is not officially allocated, I have no problem with a mention in the text about them using VIRGIN if you can find a citable reference. I suspect it is just being ignored by the authorities, not sure what would happen if you had a Virgin Blue and Virgin Atlantic talking to the same controller!. MilborneOne 12:04, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
I can confirm that is is used as Vrigin as the callsign but my say so aint a reference I will find it. Basically whenthere is a VOZ and VIR on the same freq it dosn't matter as the callsigns do not overlap (ie; they are VIRGIN102 and VIRGIN503 for example)--Mcgrath50 13:31, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
Okay after a bit of research the following is in practise: Virgin Blue has an agreement with Virgin Atlantic to use the 'Virgin' Call sign domestically, they have an agreement between each other so Flight Numbers do not overlap. If they leave Australia Virgin Blue has to use a different Call Sign hence why Pacific Blue has 'Bluebird' and aircraft registrations are used for Maintainance flights to NZ.--Mcgrath50 00:14, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Not sure what the ICAO would think of this practice, highly dubious, but just another thought it would be OK if they were using the Virgin Atlantic VIR code and not VOZ for their flights? Just out of interest there is no reason why airlines without callsigns allocated cannot use the three-letter code as a callsign, for example "Victor Oscar Zulu 123". MilborneOne 11:11, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
It is not highly dubiuous there is an agreement in place between the two airlines to share the voice code DOMESTICLY which is why Pacific Blue is not Virgin and the soon to become Virgin International is going to be Bluey. ICAO I assume are fully aware of this they do not have there head in the sand.--Mcgrath50 11:41, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Ah I know that the reason Virgin Blue doesn't use the Virgin name outside Australia is they don't have the rights to it. There is an agreement with Signapore Airlines that the Virgin name is not used outside Australia in the airline game except by Virgin Atlantic Abeorch 07:58, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History

I'm looking at pulling some information out of the history section and putting it back into the main section because it describes virgin eg para 'Virgin Blue uses a familiar formula ...' & 'Like other brands in the Virgin family, Virgin Blue takes an informal and humorous approach to business. ' etc - also I think that this needs to be put in context of the company's use of the Virgin brand since my understanding is that the airline is moving away from this as it attempts to capture more of the business market and (potentially) drop the association with virgin. Obviously don't want to do any major changes without consultation so let me know your thoughts.. Oh also might add something about Labour costs and unionisation since these are major aspects to low cost carrier operation Abeorch 07:53, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 15:41, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Virgin blue new logo.jpg

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BetacommandBot 20:49, 25 October 2007 (UTC)