Talk:Vir Singh
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Dr Vir Singh is a prominent member of Jat Community, some 100 million strong.
The Jats, also known as Jats, Jutts, Juts, among many other variations, are found in Northern, Central India, Pakistan, Baluchistan, and Afghanistan. In Central Asia their identity has been merged into various other communities.
Dr Vir singh is Director, of Maharaja Surajmal Centre For Research & Publication Surajmal Memorial Education Society C- 4, Janak Puri, New Delhi-110 058
Jat history studies had been languishing .To be clearer and more specific, it was ignored in Indian History texts, and the history of this society was assigned to other groups. Indian history text books contained next to no references to them it was made to be that the Jats had no history. Indian society has like any other society special interest groups, and this is the major cause for the situation.
It was only fairly recently, some 80 years ago, starting with two authors Thakur Desraj and Professor K R Quanango. The discovery of Jat History records which had been lost for 150 years, and gave much information of their history detailed following the failure of the first war of Independence in 1857, (also known at the Indian Mutiny), in the early 1950’s Jat history studies valuable material long lost.
New authors, R S Joon, Dilip Singh Ahlawat , Dr. Balbir Singh, Hukam Singh Pauria, Dr Nathan Singh etc wrote a number of books and papers. Dr Balbir Singh, a noted Historian, was one of the founders of the Surajmal Educational Trust, named after Mmaharaja Surajmal, the great Jat King of Medieval times. See article on [Bharatpur],
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bharatpur%2C_India
and main article [Jat] too.
The Surajmal Memorial Education Society, New Delhi, set up a research department for research into Jat history.
A number of publications and books were brought out, some reprints in various languages
Dr Vir Singh took over as The Head of Research, for the Society, in 2000 CE and under his leadership, one or more singular achievements has been to organize annual seminars on Jat History where prominent historians from Academia , various universities, etc are invited to participate, The annual seminars are now a great success.
Dr Singh has also been the general editor of a number of books, which have based been based on the Research papers that have been presented at these annual seminars
Under Dr Singh’s leadership Jat history studies have now achieved a firm footing..
He has also been instrumental in selfless editing of Out of Print works on Jat History, and have they reprinted under the auspices of the Surajmal Education Society. When we talk editing, we are really saying that he has after much research corrected errors, added notes, practically give these books a new and more in depth perspective for the serious academic or general lay reader.
He has over 14 research papers to his personal credit.
Some are of his papers are referred to and extracts are the yahoo Jathistory group site. See for example:
Re: Article by Dr Vir Singh on Jat resistance to the Mughal- Rajput alliance.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JatHistory/message/3338
In the ongoing discussion of what should be included and not included in the Indian history texts books as taught in the official schools, and universities he has been instrumental, in discussing and implementing with the NCERT (National Council of Educational Research and Training- the official Indian government body responsible for curriculum and textbooks, ), as revisions of the material so that factual material about the Jats and their History is presented.
His work will live on long after him.
When the history of how and what History is taught in India, and the world, his name will stand out, as the one person, though of a very humble, self depreciating, nature, change the face of how the History of the jats would be included in the Indian History curriculums.
In conclusion, the Jats are one of the more important and populous communities in India and Pakistan
For various reasons, their History was not given its proper space in the Indian History curriculums, This is changing but there is resistance from some special Interest groups, as anyone who reviews some of the discussions on the Jat related web pages, including wikipedia will find out in short order.
Why and how this occurred is another story, and those interested may visit the [Jat} page on Wiki, and wish to acquire a more in depth knowledge are welcome to visit and join the Jathistory discussion group, coordinates below..
Jathistory
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JatHistory/
or Jatland
One suggests, Dr Vir Singh, a prominent Historian of this community, is not a nonentity, and deserves a place in an Encyclopedia.
Strong - Do Not Delete
Ravi Chaudhary 16:30, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] There is no reason "Vir Singh" should direct here
"Bhai" Vir Singh is one of the most prominant Punjabi's in all of history. He is a major reason for the resurfacing of punjabi literature and was an extremely important man for a language and a culture. To Dr. Vir Singh: I understand that you feel your accomplishments merit a wikipedia page. You have defended a user's attempts to delete your page valiently. Still, taking the Vir Singh page away from a much more important article in human history is not justified here, in my opinion. Dr. Vir Singh seems to be a panjabi author, while Bhai Vir Singh is the "creator of modern panjabi literature". I would prefer a line on top of Bhai Vir Singh stating "for Dr. Vir Singh, please click here", or a disambiguation page if you require it. Virsingh 03:14, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Achievements of Author
I find that the user Shyamsunder has deleted the entire paragraph about the achievemts of author which comprises of his contributions to various history conferences. It is simply not the participation but his contributions in form of articles published in these conferences is important. This shows their notability also. These are simply facts. The interested history scholars can consult the proceedings of those history congresses or conferences for further consultations. These have links to various other articles. More over This article was scanned earlier and put for deletion but the administrators decided to keep the article in totality. Hence deletion amounts vandalism. If somebody feels some facts are unwanted it should be discussed first on its talk page. I therefore restore the deleted content from this article. Thanks.burdak (talk) 03:04, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
