Talk:Violin Concerto (Sibelius)

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Contents 1 Unsourced statements 2 Needs a bit of polish 3 Major Recordings? 4 This piece 5 Story / Depictions 6 You Tube link removal.

[edit] Unsourced statements

I would remove the line about Heifetz's considering the concerto among the greatest in the literature - for now anyway, absent some evidence - but he does seem to have given it its recording premiere or at least a very early recording? ("Premiere" is usually hard to prove- I thought the Naxos recording of Paul Creston's first symphony was its premiere; not so, there was a 1950s LP with very, very little distribution, then I think nothing since. To quote Paul Rapoport, "the existence of the work in score might have led to a performance of the work by somebody else" - though recordings may be another matter, legally speaking...) Schissel | Sound the Note! 15:40, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Needs a bit of polish

Sentences like "this is the only full-blown concerto..." might read better using different words and phrasing. I'm quite sure that Grove's Dictionary or any other doesn't use "full blown" to describe anything. (-:

Actually, if I'm not mistaken, this is the only concerto Sibelius wrote. It's well known he wanted to be a violinist and so took very seriously this his first major -- can I say major? -- work for solo instrument and orchestra.

So maybe, perhaps, that particular sentence would have better read: "This is his only major work for solo instrument and orchestra."

Still there were other sentences that need, IMHO, to be tweaked a bit.

Anyway, this is one of the most important violin concertos in the modern repertoir and I think there should be a bit more detail here.

It's also one of my most favorites so I guess I can say I'm a bit biased. (-:

The term is used to distinguish it from several - significant, but nowhere on the level of this concerto - Humoresques and other works he wrote throughout his life for violin and orchestra. And this is one of the great 20th century works for violin and orchestra in my opinion, but that's POV, doesn't belong in the article (what do, is statements that are objective and from which the reader could draw that conclusion on their own), and - I'd say; my opinion - not the only work to reach such a level (several works - many of them written all in 1935, interestingly... - compete very closely at least.) Schissel | Sound the Note! 15:04, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Well "full blown" really sounds like slang to me. But if you feel it reads better the way it was before then change it back. (-:

[edit] Major Recordings?

Would it be appropriate to list the most famous recordings of this piece? For example Pekka Kuusisto and Gil Shaham and the other famous ones.

Other articles on the site do so- I'd say yes, offhand. (Since you mention above, I think? I don't recall whether the last time I looked at the New Grove's it looked like it followed a standard of objective lack of POV much like ours, or not. Oxford Concise Dictionary very, very definitely does not, but there may be differences between the projects that account for that.) Schissel | Sound the Note! 08:17, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] This piece

Rocks. No doubt. 71.0.241.224 06:15, 5 March 2007 (UTC) I agree. Many consider the Beethoven Violin Concerot the greatest of the genre. Maybe so - but I think the sibelius rates a close second - rambux

[edit] Story / Depictions

Does anybody know what story this piece is supposed to tell, or what it depicts? I think this should be mentioned in the article.

For the end of the first movement, I always sort of saw a man in a hangglider, soaring over the sea during a thunderstorm at night. I have no idea if this is the official depiction or not, but it's got merit. 71.0.241.46 05:41, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] You Tube link removal.

1 link removed - Footage was B/W film of a performance of the piece - No indication as to the date of the footage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sfan00 IMG (talk • contribs)

I've seen the video; it's a perfectly fine performance. I won't put it back (yet), but can you give a good reason why you removed it? —  $PЯINGεrαgђ  01:07, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Because the footage was undated, it wasn't possible to determine if the (C) on the film had expired. It's generally considered bad form to link to copyvios from Wikipedia. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 01:51, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

I know that; but OK, if the copyright is elusive. —  $PЯINGεrαgђ  05:18, 19 November 2007 (UTC)