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[edit] Fantasy aspect of wrestling
Are there any guidelines about how to present a piece which deals with an inherently make-believe world such as wrestling? It isn't a criticism, but individuals such as McMahon clearly have a 'persona' acting out in public for the purpose of entertainment and what could be called a 'private personality' which is separate.
It seems incongrous to talk about various on-screen wrestling 'feuds' for instance, in the same location, tone and style as talking about his company's management and financing (and other things like the accusations of rape).
Unless these are clearly separated - and the entertainment aspects put into context - it could be difficult to define it as a proper encyclopedia entry.
If this was changed would it cause an uproar? If so, why?
Cheers
SwatchNYC, Nov 17
[edit] Illegitimate Child
This is well worth noting in the McMahon Strikes Back part of the article or creating a new section for it under his storylines section. 82.4.71.30 03:35, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
Is this kayfabe?
Yes, it's completely kayfabe. But this isn't forum, ask on a wrestling discussion board elsewhere next time. Gavyn Sykes 00:19, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
The next time someone asks a simple question, perhaps you can try to not respond like a stuck up jackass -me
What are you talking about? It seems to me like you're the one being a stuck up jackass. All he did was answer your question and tell you what was stated at the top of this talk page. So next time someone answers a question for you, try not to be a total jackass to them. 68.54.174.43 16:47, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Firings
I'm pretty sure that the list of people McMahon has fired is much longer than the one given in the article (and also, Jim Ross was fired multiple times on-screen). So the question is, should we expand it, to include all the other on-screen firings, or should we instead trim it down, including only the more notable firings, and rename it a "selected list"? Calgary 21:08, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- You're right, this list goes far beyond what it actually has. This is clearly list cruft, and has been removed. — Moe ε 23:31, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
The fireings were important for angles so if you delete that than the kiss my ass list has got to go too —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnnycash316 (talk • contribs) 02:30, August 26, 2007 (UTC)
[edit] "You're fired"
While the article mentions the parallels between McMahon's and Trump's "You're fired" proclamations, the regular on-screen declaration goes back a few more decades, to Mr. Spacely's regular firings of George Jetson on The Jetsons. McMahon's method of saying it, although not as bombastic, seems to parallel Spacely's. 66.217.50.209 19:41, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Edits from World Wrestling Entertainment
Take a look at what the Wikipedia scanner pulled up for edits coming from the World Wrestling Entertainment headquarters. [1] Four edits to this talk page about how we should have a section on Mr. McMahon's 'death' by limo explosion. Thought that might raise a few brows. — Moe ε 21:05, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- Yep, I've just noticed. Davnel03 19:19, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Under Involvent in Storylines...
Should we add Melina to the list of divas Vince has put himself into sexual angles with? There was the whole thing on SNME, and their conversation on the subsequent RAW. (Sawyer 20:24, 22 August 2007 (UTC))
- That's not really important. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 01:15, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] themesong
how come you guys don't have his theme song down here —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.141.161.245 (talk) 03:06, August 24, 2007 (UTC)
- It's added. -- ThinkBlue (Hit BLUE) 17:22, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Mr.mcmahons age
on monday augest 26th mr.mcmahon was celebratning his 50th birthday dosent that mean hes fifty and not 62? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.208.231.26 (talk) 18:19, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
- Most likely kayfabe, did he even remotely look 49 last week? No sources verify that he was born in 1957. — Moe ε 00:16, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
- Come on think about it. It was treated as a joke on TV was taken as a joke. Vince is 62 not 50SimonD 15:13, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
- Triple H called Vince 70 years old. It was a joke, since Vince was trying to go low, and HHH went high. It is 62, I am sure. 75.162.42.244
- Come on think about it. It was treated as a joke on TV was taken as a joke. Vince is 62 not 50SimonD 15:13, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Separate articles for Vince McMahon and Mr. McMahon?
For example how it's done with Stephen Colbert. "Vince McMahon" would be an article about McMahon's personal life, etc., while "Mr. McMahon" would be an article about the character he plays on TV. I am sure there is sufficient information on both subjects to make the move, and it would help keep wikipedia consistent with how other articles are done involving a real life person and a character they play on TV. Anybody agree or disagree? RealFerrari 08:30, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
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- I strongly agree - see 'fantasy aspect of wrestling above'. It is inherently problematic putting real vs fictional information together in the same article. I'll leave it a couple of days to see what debate arises before doing any revisions. There must be a good way of cleaning this up to make the distinction clear but without leaving just stubs. Swatch, Nov 19 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.168.128.53 (talk) 17:21, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
- I actually like the idea. All business pioneers have their own biographies. The "Vince McMahon" article would be about this personal life, business decisions and backstage stuff, while "Mr. McMahon" would be about his on-screen persona and career as a pro wrestler. Lex T/C Guest Book 02:54, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
- I strongly agree - see 'fantasy aspect of wrestling above'. It is inherently problematic putting real vs fictional information together in the same article. I'll leave it a couple of days to see what debate arises before doing any revisions. There must be a good way of cleaning this up to make the distinction clear but without leaving just stubs. Swatch, Nov 19 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.168.128.53 (talk) 17:21, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
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- If we did that, we would have to do it to The Undertaker, JBL, JR, Batista, Cena, Kane, Jamie Noble, Finlay, Rey Mysterio... no point, and to hard. I kinda think ther is NO POINT WHAT-SO-EVER. There, that sums it up.Altenhofen (talk) 01:53, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Vince's amatuer wrestling carrer
I've heard that Vince took 2nd in the New York State Wrestling Championships as a senior in High School and turned down several college wrestling scholarships to concentrate on academics. Was wondering if anybody who knows how to acess the NY state wrestling records could confirm this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.98.76.123 (talk • contribs)
[edit] No Executive Producer credits
Nothing about his involvment in Scorpion King, The Marine, and other movies that The Rock or John Cena did? --135.214.150.100 22:14, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] tr iw addition
Can someoıne please add tr iw to the article. [[tr:Vince McMahon]] thanks--Manco Capaq 07:58, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Cartoon Network Lawsuit
Removed the information about the alleged lawsuit filed by Cartoon Network. While it was reported on a number of wrestling websites, it was later mentioned as a false report on other sites, and there's been no corroborative report since. Thekithless (talk) 23:39, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Hogan with WWF in the 80's
The article currently states that McMahon brought Hogan to the WWF in 1984, but I believe it was actually 1983. 68.254.168.132 (talk) 13:12, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Vince McMahon Myspace
http://www.myspace.com/wwechairmanvkm is this really Vince's myspace becuase on Matt Hardy's it says these are the only M'Fers on myspace and Vince isnt one of them. But if it is fake who ever made it is pretty good. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.208.247.160 (talk) 17:57, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Mr.McMahon
Well shouldn't the Mr.McMahon section go under the Wrestling section since that is mostly his ring name/on air name in wrestling. But if that were so how would we fit the other sections into the Mr.McMahon section like the {Death Storyline/2007-present}.--TrUCo9311 22:48, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] hornswoggle joining club
hornswoggle joined the club last monday and bit his butt —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.82.9.58 (talk) 21:59, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
- Biting =/= kissing, so no dice. Doesn't go into the article. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 23:04, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
trish stratus did not kiss vince'ass and is in the list
[edit] Bloating
The 2007-08 Mr. McMahon section is overflowing with week-by-week plot summaries and desperately needs to be cut down. Tnova4 (talk) 09:29, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Jetsons is common knowledge
Someone deleted my statement about Spacely firing Jetson because it's "original info." It's common knowledge. All you have to do is watch an average episode of the Jetsons to see that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dstebbins (talk • contribs) 19:48, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, but it's not notable. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 22:01, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
- If it's not notable, then so is McMahon's so-called "origination" of "You're fired" that pops up in several WWE- and The Apprentice-related articles. Let's be consistent here. We're talking about a signature of not one but two franchises - that makes the "catch phrase" and its origin very notable. 147.70.242.40 (talk) 20:25, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Illegitimate son storyline part II?
Maybe not until things are cleared up a bit more, but is this just gonna be an extension of the old piece, or its own, or what? Or is it probably not gonna be worth mentioning at all unless it becomes a bigger deal than it is right now? 3pointswish (talk) 23:44, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Lee Terry
I think there should be a mention of the following article:
http://www.prowrestling.com/article/news/8602
Rep. Lee Terry Refuses To Back Down From McMahon Comments Date Added: February 29, 2008 Story By: Richard Gray
The war of words continues between Nebraska Congressman Lee Terry and Vince McMahon. McMahon responded to Terry’s comments earlier in the week that he flipped his finger to Congress for no-showing Wednesday’s Congressional hearing in a press release issued on the corporate WWE website.
Rep. Terry told the Omaha World-Herald that he was not backing down from his comments towards McMahon, especially because McMahon’s excuse for no-showing was because his attorney Jerry McDevitt unavailable to make the hearing.
Terry said, "He probably has more than one attorney, so it sounded pretty hollow," He added, "There's no doubt that the entertainment factor is that they are physically huge freaks — that's part of the show, so there is kind of a belief that steroids are very ubiquitous in the wrestling entertainment industry."
WWE spokesman Gary Davis told the publication that Terry’s comments "represent stereotypical assumptions made by people who don't follow professional wrestling.†—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.35.243.184 (talk) 18:22, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Purchase of ECW?
A minor irregularity- in the opening body of the text it claims that McMahon purchased WCW in 2001 and ECW in 2003, but later in the document it claims that McMahon purchased ECW in 2001. I belive the latter date is correct, so can it be verified and amended. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.106.45.125 (talk) 19:03, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Grandson
His grandson's name is Keynon, not Kenyon! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.194.248.5 (talk) 09:41, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] World champion
vince is only a 1 time world champion when he won the ecw title it was not a recanized world title check pwi it was only reconised 1999-2001 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Devil Thunderbolt (talk • contribs) 19:01, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
YOU HAVE HORRIBLE GRAMMER!!!!!!!! he won the WWE title in the late 90's I think, not sure.Altenhofen (talk) 01:57, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] wrestlinggonewrong.com
Should this information be added to Vince's article here on Wikipedia?http://wrestlinggonewrong.com/tvshows/6521334.html- Wrestlinggonewrong was like a partner of wikipedia seeing as they would source articles of some of the incidents.(ie; Mass transit incident) Urena198 (talk) 01:17, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Not named Junior.
The disambiguation section at the top
"This article is about Vincent Kennedy McMahon, Jr., current WWE Chairman. For his father, see Vincent J. McMahon."
should be amended to
"This article is about Vincent Kennedy McMahon, current WWE Chairman. For his father, see Vincent J. McMahon."
as there is no Jr. in his name. I would change it, but the article is locked.76.234.154.131 (talk) 06:46, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
craete an acount, you will be able to edit it.Altenhofen (talk) 01:58, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] "Higher Power" Revelation Date
The article lists the date of the Higher Power revelation as April 12; however, this happened after Over the Edge, which was in May, so the date is incorrect.
Rainbowhairedwarrior (talk) 06:51, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
The Higher Power wasn't revealed at Over The Edge. McMahon continued to be a face for several weeks afterwards before being revealed on an episode of Raw. I don't know the date from memory but i know that it wasn't at Over the Edge.
Theincomparablebigci (talk) 12:33, 4 June 2008 (BST)
[edit] "Kiss My Ass Club"
On Vince's page, it states that Trish Stratus is in the "Kiss My Ass Club", because she was forced to join. Trish Stratus never actually made contact with Vince's backside, so therefore she shouldn't be named there. My proof is in this youtube video.[[2]] —Preceding unsigned comment added by -alex-shizzle- (talk • contribs) 16:16, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Billionaire ?
In WWE vince McMahon always says that he is a billionaire. Is it true? can anybody clear it with refferance? if he is than we should put this in the article Upol007 (talk) 05:37, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
