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Copyright: Translation

I wish to translate materials from the English 'pedia and use them on the Chinese 'pedia. Do I need to acknowledge it? If so, how? --Menchi 23:45 Feb 20, 2003 (UTC)

If the Chinese wikipedia is under the same license (which I assume), then there is absolutely no problem. --snoyes 00:42 Feb 21, 2003 (UTC)
It's a wise idea to mention in the edit summary field where you got the material. Even simply "translated from English Wikipedia" should be sufficient (since you'll be including a language link to that article anyway!) Aside from the attribution issue, it's just a good idea to keep track of things; if the contents are questionable, the source can be easily determinted and consulted. --Brion 01:17 Feb 21, 2003 (UTC)

Can someone trim the Village Pump down? It's over 32k, and I can't post a question (or, for that matter, trim it myself) -- Crenner 02:49 May 11, 2003 (UTC)

One possiblity in such a case would be to rename Village pump to an archive name and create a new page. What people want to keep they can move to the new page. Patrick 09:06 May 11, 2003 (UTC)

The pump is 39 ko full. Letting my comment here right now.

I find some of the edits made today by http://www.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Special:Contributions&target=66.82.44.235 quite suspicious. Could someone knowledgeable look at them please ? Anthere

Yes, quite a POV rampage, wasn't it. Fixed now, Anthere. Tannin 11:05 5 Jun 2003 (UTC)

I'm not sure where the right place to ask this is. I asked a question at Wikipedia talk:Disruption. Could someone perhaps have a look at it? Thanks... -- Timwi 20:37 17 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Q A'ed. --Menchi 21:42 17 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Could someone clean the pump please ? Anthere 04:51 19 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Certainly, sir! :-) -- Timwi 17:47 19 Jun 2003 (UTC)
I am not a sir :-). I am a mom used to diapers, laundering, cooking, washing dishes, and even cleaning the lavatories. But I can't clean at the top of furniture as I am not very tall. And can't clean the pump when clogged. :-)
Ahh... we usually try to be a bit more selective about what we archive. Like not archiving discussions still in progress, and like that. -- John Owens 17:51 19 Jun 2003 (UTC)
That was an amazing cleaning !!! Come over here, I have a job for you at home !
I never saw the water level so low... User:anthere
Yeah... I'm sorry if I moved too much stuff over. As I already said on User_talk:Timwi, I thought the discussions I had archived were sort of over. Anyway, next time I'll follow your advice and clean just half of it. (And then another half, and then ... ;-) just kidding) -- Timwi 18:33 21 Jun 2003 (UTC)

The Reference desk is very sleepy. I think that it should be linked to in the big, bold Related pages heading up at the top.

I see that has just been done... -Smack 07:29 5 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Archiving

move to wikipedia talk:village pump

I know someone out there likes archiving and cleaning the pump.. it's time.. --Dante Alighieri 00:36 17 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Tsk, tsk. You're obviously one of those people who finds ordering about easier than doing. Hang on, I'll do it. -- Tim Starling 02:07 17 Jul 2003 (UTC)
I'm one of those people who knows that as soon as I start archiving things, something that is "active" will get archived and people will yell at me for trying to hide things. ;) --Dante Alighieri 02:27 17 Jul 2003 (UTC)
Don't archive the page then - just move bits of the conversation to the relevant talk pages. You're allowed to do that even for active conversations. Plus, it's better (if more work). Martin 09:56 17 Jul 2003 (UTC)

It would be really helpful if we could protect the village pump during archiving and just one person archives it. Otherwise the edit conflicts make it nigh on impossible. Good idea? CGS 22:41 21 Jul 2003 (UTC). [[Wikipedia:Village pump

It might be good to put a note with a timestamp at the bottom saying it's being archived and please don't edit for a few minutes, then remove it when you're done. I'm kind of against protecting it, since invariably someone will forget to un-protect it. Edit conflicts are annoying, but they aren't really that hard to work around if you're just deleting stuff that no one's editing. -- Merphant 04:29 22 Jul 2003 (UTC)
Speaking of which... -- Merphant 04:41 22 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Should all queries on the page now be given titles so the TOC works properly? It doesn't seem so useful if half the questions aren't listed in it. Angela 00:34, 29 Jul 2003 (UTC)

The policy of "title your questions" has always been there. It's just not followed by 90% of the users. It takes 5 sec to do it (by the original author, who knows what his/her Q is about). Just need to make that policy clear. --Menchi 00:47, 29 Jul 2003 (UTC)

"Post a comment" feature -- Village pump should be a talk page

You may have noticed that there is now a "Post a comment" feature for talk pages. The advantages of this feature are:

  1. Appends directly to the page. No need to load whole page into edit window.
  2. Because it only appends, it can never cause an edit conflict.
  3. Encourages proper use of headlines -- this in turn makes replying easier because you can just edit the section instead of editing the whole page.

The Village Pump, unfortunately, is not in the Talk: namespace, so the "Post a comment" feature is not available there. I propose moving it into the Talk: namespace and redirecting the main page there. Any objections? —Eloquence 01:27, 29 Jul 2003 (UTC)

No objection. Should the same be done for the reference desk? Angela 01:36, 29 Jul 2003 (UTC)
Probably. These are both essentially discussion pages.—Eloquence

Remainder of discussion moved to Wikipedia talk:Software updates

Number of Pump comments

As there are an awful lot of entries on the Village Pump about the new features, it may be better to create a separate page for them. There are now 64 sections on the page. I would do it but I need to get up for work in four hours! Angela 01:45, 29 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Now there are only 43??? Angela 01:50, 29 Jul 2003 (UTC)
I see only 33. Did something happen? --Menchi 02:11, 29 Jul 2003 (UTC)

There were always 33 really, it's just that some of them had been duplicated due to a little bug (now fixed by Eloquence). --Camembert

See Wikipedia:Software updates --Jiang

The name

I find the name to be a little obscure. Maybe we should have a sentence or two of explanation... maybe something about scuttlebutt... or maybe that's even more obscure. -Smack 00:30, 7 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Yeah, it's obscure. I added two sentences. Feel free to clarify and improve that intro. --Menchi 17:57, Aug 7, 2003 (UTC)