Talk:Villanova College

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Assessment: Hello all, and thank you for contributing to this school article. I'm part of the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Schools/Assessment team, and I'm reviewing this page. I'm currently giving it a grade of Start on the Wikipedia 1.0 Assessment Scale and an importance of Low on this importance scale. For information on improving this article, please visit the WikiProject Schools Project Page. My reasoning is as follows: A bit light on references and pictures for a B. Needs some reorganization on trimming. Adam McCormick 06:26, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

This page is heavily littered with crap. I am being blunt because this is true. Many quotes and teachings by St Augustine as well as the life story of the Augustinians comprises close to 30% of the article (this was larger before the music section was edited). Many of these sections were written by one student alone, and not necessarily a student with in-depth, verifiable knowledge of the school. Wikipedia is also not an advertising service. If prospective students want to know what subjects are on offer, they can enquire in person. Mindgoneawol 12:48, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

You need to sign your note so we know who you are. while I agree your "advertising service" crticism is one to be taken seriously, nevertheless, the Augustinian information is what makes the school distinctive (if I really understand what you are being "blunt" about). I should also point out that to assert something "is true" might (just might) be simply stating your own point of view emphatically.

If I do understand what it is you are referring to, this (footnoted and referenced) stuff isn't written by a student; it was collected and written by me S.T.B., B.Theol (and I know they are ONLY undergraduate degrees - but it is a bit better than a school student). I am not an ex student of the college either. Still working on the Masters. On the other hand, my view (agreeing with you) is that the subject stuff could just disappear (so why not just remove it? Be bold.) You might care to look at the Philippino Augustinian schools where the editors have gone right off the deep-end with the subject detail (I looked for blood-types, but I think they just forgot). On the other hand; if a school in the West teaches Latin, Greek, or Philosphy (for example); then this really starts to tell you that they are on a Western cultural mission, and I think this is both interesting and worth reporting on - particularly in the time of cultural conflict we live in. My view is that Augustinian philosophy is both relevant or important in undserstanding a school; same as a Marxist one or an Anthroposophical approach ought to be identified and explained. Cor Unum 09:59, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

What a load of garbage. Check out every other AIC school in Brisbane and look at their article. The quotes that have been placed within different sections of the article are rubbish! Remove them! --Ironchef90 21:18, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Use of "Brother" or "Sister"

What is it with this generation?!. I have already spoken about this issue on the Sydney page. The schools have always been referred to (in my hearing) by the Augustinian friars as "sister schools" because it's not about the gender of the students, but as I recall, the gender of the latin word "schola" (school) which is of the feminine gender in the language. Likewise nations are called "she" in English (like Britain "Brittannia" or France "Gallia" - whose images are females), and cities are called "she" (ie. sister-cities, not brother cities (although urbs/urbem in neuter gender in Latin I think- so I need to do some research on this). The Germans weirdly call their nation the "Fatherland" (and look where it got them). No aspersions are being cast onto the boys of the school (or aged alumni like me either) by reference to "sister schools". I'll go away and look into this - but I'm pretty sure you're using a novel term here that is not traditionally the ways the schools have been described (and may be just wrong). I'll be back on this. Cor Unum 09:42, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

By the way, I think you will find that Loreto is NOT a sister school to Villanova. It is not Augustinian and is therefore not a sister school - even if your sister went there! Cor Unum 11:51, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree. Loreto College is a close school to Villanova, like Sommerville is to Churchie etc. But it is not our sister school. --Ironchef90 21:15, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Relevance and POV for recent additions

Certain new additions to this article need to be rewritten or removed since this page is deviating further and further from an effective encyclopaedic article on the College. The focus should not be on students who have recently been given various titles for different bodies or organisations within the school, no matter how important some students editing this article think that it is, or to give opinions on the actions of certain students. That is for the school yearbook, not for an encyclopaedic article on Villanova College, Coorparoo. Likewise, this article should not be just about current construction projects and should give more of an account on what already is a part of the College, rather than praising or justifying structures that are not even completed. I thank whoever has made significant changes to that section. Again, this should be an encyclopaedic article on Villanova College, written for anybody wishing to find out about the College and who has access to this encyclopaedia. I understand that people might like to add new information when it appears, but they should consider it's relevancy to the article as a whole. Also, while I am not saying that I know it to be wrong, there is no need to include points of view on the achievements of building projects or student bodies that others may differ on, and should not be expressed as such in an encylopaedic article in any event. I have not made any edits, nor have I deleted content. I just ask that people consider the appropriateness of what they add; this is a wiki so that all may contribute information that is relevant to the article.

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[edit] Copyright violation

I have discovered that the article contains material copied from the school website [1], and urgently needs to be rewritten or reverted to a non-infringing version. - Mike Rosoft 21:47, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Of course it does. We students aren't going to re-write what we wrote for the websites. Besides, the website is not copyrighted.Mindgoneawol 12:38, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Actually, sorry to bust you bubble, but it is!! At the bottom of the Main/ Home Page sits the words (c) Villanova College 2007, so unless there is something rendering it null and void, it is copyrighted!! Kiwi0012 12:26, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

just to second this, the school website IS Copyrighted. You cannot just copy it in here, and it must be re-written. Rimmeraj 04:17, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I have attempted to cull the opinions from the article, can someone highlight any content still remaining from the official website. Rimmeraj 04:41, 12 July 2007 (UTC)