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[edit] cleaning up

A good reference to how this very vague definition of video art could be cleaned up may be found at the entry for experimental cinema which, although not perfect, is much better. The description given of video art here, unfortunately, is vague enough that it might just as well apply to experimental cinema, from which it is in fact distinct. 141.155.136.90 22:43, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Did some reworking and reorganizing. Still much work to do. Freshacconci 20:54, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

I believe that the definition must remain vague to include the off-shoots of video art and the broad nature of an art movement. There are painters and photographers that create works using video and televisions look. This is video art but there is little of this in the page. An art movement is a grey area. There is no precise definition with this medium. I think it is quite good so far in that it covers much but Frank Zappa's 200 Motels is not there. This is one of the first films shot on video. I would like more paintings about television included. This is just thoughts in the talk page. - cyfjc3 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cyfjc3 (talk • contribs) 07:38, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] theatrical cinema

What should theatrical cinema be linked to? The closest I could find was experimental film. Clubmarx 23:17, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] reference

EDITORS?? - Why has the website reference for the British video art chronology (non-profit!) at the bottom of your main page UK VIDEO ART: THE EARLY YEARS <http://ukvideoart.tripod.com> been recycled back to your main Video Art page instead of just leaving the reference??

Reworked and moved. Freshacconci 20:52, 1 January 2007 (UTC). MOVED TO WHERE???87.113.116.165 (talk) 00:04, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Suggested additions to definition

Video Art has grown organically with the advent of computer based editing and distribution to include personal as well as public works. For the masses, accessibility of the process from lens to finishing to screen to eye no longer depends upon arts organizations to disseminate within its ranks. Schoolchildren are becoming versed with digital cameras that shoot moving pictures and sound with no moving parts, as well as with Apple's iMovie and other affordable tools.

Motion pictures with sound are becoming more and more immediate in personal communications. Teleconferencing is swiftly replacing the internet audio conversation (which had threatened to replace the long-distance telephone call).

The ability to record and edit with personal computers and distribute with the internet opens new doors for creative expression, even for those with no training in computers or art. Like blogging, a new form of time-based, linear photojournalism is emerging. It is democratic, often personal, and by forging new ground for video as art, it continues to challenge any definiton. -rockhaus

that last paragraph makes me think of cyborglogging or "glogging". sort of related. not usually video, though, but images, like a photo blog from the author's-eye-view - Omegatron 11:20, Sep 8, 2004 (UTC)

Organizations/links

Some of links on this page are artists' sites added for self-promotion and need to be removed. The suggested addition to the definition above is way too broad. A child using I-movie is not necessarily making video art. Video art is a specific art practice with a definite history. It has always been understood as a specialist practice - a small subset of video production. EZMoney

I agree with both points. As for the second point, broadening the definition of video art so generally is like including fingerpainting in with painting (and I know an argument can be made for outsider art, but I don't think that's what was meant by the comments above on iMovie and schoolchildren. Let's keep the definition of video art within the history, but by all means include changes in technology as it is used by artists.Freshacconci 15:20, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I think that this link is relevant http://mikeretter.tripod.com because it is Paintings about television. Add this link if you feel it is apropriate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.163.144.122 (talk) 07:05, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List of video art organizations

This section needs weeding out and reworking. It's too long. Freshacconci 20:53, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

It definitely still needs this work, but I think to remove it entirely would be a huge disservice, so I added it back in.

[edit] 200 Motels

Should we mention 200 Motels, Frank Zappa's movie? It was the first theatrically released film that was originally recorded on tape (VHS). 72.64.207.60 23:13, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hmmm

nice one, 72.205.50.153, back in July last year - if a fictional video artist can survive in the list for ten months it suggests that either (a) everyone saw the joke and decided to leave it, (b) the page is incredibly neglected, or (c) the field is so esoteric that nobody realised he isn't real. Oh, how I *so* want it to be (c)... 121.220.11.225 (talk) 00:57, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

What can you do? This page needs lots of work. Anyway, Mr. Harrington is now gone. Thanks for the heads-up. freshacconcispeaktome 02:16, 16 May 2008 (UTC)