Talk:Victory over Japan Day

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Contents 1 No mention of RI? 2 VJ is coming up 3 Name? 4 Controversy? 5 VJ Day Kiss 6 Happy VJ day! 7 Hirohito?? 8 Surrender of Japan 9 George Mendonça

[edit] No mention of RI?

As far as I know Rhode Island is the only place in the United States that still celebrates this as an official holiday (with the day off from work/state offices closed and everything). What's up with that? 131.128.96.47 19:52, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] VJ is coming up

Maybe this article could get expanded a bit, and nominated as the featured article on the 14th...?

[edit] Name?

I've got a problem with the name of this article. Of course VJ stands for Victory over Japan, but in the US at least, it's nearly universally called "V-J Day", and was from the beginning. Maybe it's different elsewhere? The date is also somewhat ambiguous:

"As President of the United States, I proclaim Sunday, September the second, 1945, to be V-J Day--the day of formal surrender by Japan. It is not yet the day for the formal proclamation of the end of the war nor of the cessation of hostilities. But it is a day which we Americans shall always remember as a day of retribution--as we remember that other day, the day of infamy."[1]

—wwoods 06:32, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Besides, the title is suggesting a US (so non-neutral) point of view. In Europe (or the Netherlands at least) it is sometimes called VJ day, but usually we speak of the surrender of Japan or the end of WW II. The date is set pretty firm on August 15 however. I think that in this case the losing party is setting the time table, so today it is.

For what it's worth, the official name in Australia is Victory in the Pacific (VP) Day. --Nick Dowling 09:53, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Controversy?

"Nevertheless, the use of "VP Day" is a subject of controversy in Australia and is seen by some as an instance of political correctness." Since when? WookMuff 08:25, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

I cannot speak to the when, but as to the why - "VP Day" is seen as whitewashing by the Japanese. Raul654 08:32, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

in australia? and i really honestly doubt the japanese could complain about whitewashing WookMuff 08:45, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

You misunderstand me. The Japanese are the ones promoting the use of "VP day" over "VJ day". People, especially American/British/Australian veterans, don't like this, because it {looks like/is} whitewashing of history by the Japanese (who have a history of this sort of thing). Raul654 09:00, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

As mentioned in the article, its always been VP day here, both according to the War Memorial and my own memory (though the war memorial is more reliable as i am 27). I haven't heard anyone complain about it, and my friend whose grandfather was a POW in WWII has complained about everything else related to the japanese! WookMuff 09:17, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VJ Day Kiss

I remember reading an article in the Daily Telegraph not too long ago about the identity of the VJ day kissers. They do not match the candidates given in the article, anyway here are some links. [2][3] As always, Google for more. - Hahnchen 14:07, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

I seem to recall that the photograph was actually taken on V-E day in May and simply published as an end-of-war celebratory thing. Notice that the man is wearing blues instead of summer whites? Kensai Max 16:40, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Happy VJ day!

Hope you're having a good one! Mewchu11 01:12, 15 August 2006 (UTC) (Who actually IS from Rhode Island)

=this artikel is vandelised+

Im going to delete the alien vandalisem in this artekel

[edit] Hirohito??

Being that this is the Wikipedia for English speaking people, shouldn't the article refer to the Emperor of Japan at the time of their capitulation in 1945 as Hirohito since only the Japanese use his post-mortem ceremonial title of 'Showa'? CanadianMist 14:43, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

I think you're right, so I'm being bold and changing the article. — PyTom 03:08, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Surrender of Japan

From my understanding, the surrender of Japan came the day following the second dropping of the Atomic Bomb. The article says that the surrender was initially on August 15. However, that would make the 2nd bomb dropped on the 14th, and the 1st on the 11th. I'm pretty sure the surrender happend on the 10th, as the 1st drop was on the 6th, 3 days later the 2nd bomb dropped and the surrender came the day following the second drop. Am i incorrect? It's what I have heared everywhere else. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.83.146.58 (talk • contribs) 23:16, 30 May 2007

You're essentially correct. The Japanese government made the decision to surrender on the 10th. There were a few days of negotiations with the Allies over the terms, and the announcement was made on the 15th. See Surrender of Japan for more details.

—wwoods 15:07, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Hah. When I read the timeline in this article, I too was supprised to see the big gap between the 2nd atomic bomb and the announcement on the 15th. However after reading the Surrender of Japan article I see that yes, on the 10th the Emperor had made his mind up, but it's clear that nothing was clear until Aug 14 - when after yet again listening to the still divided "big six", he flat out asked them to prepare his speech and do as he asked. CraigWyllie 18:26, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] George Mendonça

George Mendonça the sailor in the picture was portuguese.