Talk:Victory

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[edit] Removals and reasons

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[edit] Red-links without other inbound links

  • Aerial victory, winning an aerial confrontation, whether between individuals, groups of aeroplanes or entire air forces
  • Victory (comics), a Brazilian comics miniseries about a half-elf demigoddess who wields "Half of an infinite power"
  • Victory (Daan album)
  • Victory (supermarket), defunct chain of supermarkets in New England, USA
  • Victory (volcano), a volcano in Papua New Guinea
  • "VICTORY!!", a song by J-pop artist Riyu Kosaka
  • Victory Seed Company, an heirloom seed company in Molalla, Oregon
  • Tactical victory, a success in battle without substantive or long-lasting gain
  • Team Victory, Crystal Lake, IL consists of members Richie Saunders, Matt Tuper, Shane Summers, and Craig Summers

[edit] Non-article entries

  • A Curtains and blinds company based in Melbourne, Australia
  • A brand-name used in the novel Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell

[edit] February 2006

The # 2 Definition for Victory in THE RANDOM HOUSE College Dictionary is ultimate or decisive superiority in any battle or contest. The Victory sign is made with the index and middle fingers forming a V insisting on Victory against Nazis and Fascists it was made popular by Winston Churchill in the 1940s and in the 1960s it was corrupted as a hand symbol for peace and made popular by Jimi Hendrix. In The 1970s it was used as a demand for global victory against communists and Popularised by then President Richard Nixon. In 1974 Richard Nixon displayed the Victory sign before being flown out on an Air Force helicopter while Carl A. Albert acted as President until Gerald Ford could be sworn in as President. In World war II Victory gardens were Grown to Allow ready food supply during Rationing. These Are the ways Victory have influenced American Culture.

[edit] Wikifying

User David Kernow asked me to discuss my reversion of his (given well-intended) edits to the article. I thought I'd bring it here so everyone can participate.

I think sorting a disambiguation page into categories is very helpful, and I didn't realize he added more information as well, so I should've looked more closely before flat-reverting. However, I beleive that a item being "wikiquote material" or lack of a wikilink should not be reason for its removal.

  • Just because no one's gotten around to making a page for the Joseph Conrad novel victory doesn't mean we should strike all knowledge of it from everywhere else
  • The definitions/uses of victory (pyrrhic victory and quote from Apocalypse now) is exactly the kind of broad-web I enjoy in Wikipedia and suits its primary purpose -- to inform.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Liu Bei (talk • contribs)

  • Re your second point, I agree; but my understanding is that one of Wikiquote and the Wikitionary raisons d'être is to keep such material stored at Wikiquote/Wiktionary/etc and leave links to it where and when appropriate. Thanks for your thoughts, David Kernow 00:36, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Okay, no further input since the above, so have reverted to MoS:DP-compliant wikification but included wiktionary-type varieties of victory. Regards, David Kernow 10:03, 30 May 2006 (UTC)